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Pretty good OpEd movie on the Sportster.


I'd never thought about it, but it is interesting that the XL is the last completely air cooled Harley, and in quite a few other ways it is the last "traditional Harley". I can't think of any other segment of the motor vehicle industry where a manufacturer has managed to keep the feel of the traditional vehicles around for as long or as well. Even the Jeep Wrangler, that in styling tries to be true to it's heritage, has has wandered so far from it's origins that one has to look pretty hard to find any of the CJ that was it's predecessor. The new breed of retro muscle cars have brought back some of the original style, but they sure lack the feel of their roots. Lord knows the new retro Triumphs and Indians sure lack the feel of the original, even as they've managed to keep some of the looks.

Time marches on, and the new will always replace the old, they call it progress. And I guess maybe it's better for the Motor Company to change with the times than to fade away, and I'll even admit that a Revolution motored XG shares the garage with my Sporties. And maybe there's some old Ironhead purists that look at my Evos the same way most of us look at the Revolutions and Livewires. Maybe some like my grandad who loved his JDH looked at the Ironhead the same way. Maybe in 30 years my daughter will be tooling around on her XG500 and thinking how it's a shame that none of the new bikes feel like it.

Is it better to have a water cooled Sportster, or to kill off the name completely when air cooled engines can no longer meet the regulations imposed by the EPA and their worldwide counterparts? I guess making that decision is above my pay scale. But even if the Motor Company kills it, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of them around for awhile. There's too many of us that will keep our old ones around until we can't ride anymore, and then pass them on to the select of the next generation that will appreciate them as we have. But after watching this I think instead of walking past the new XLs on the showroom floor and not giving them a second glance because "the Sporty got too modern", I might have to take a look and appreciate them a little more for being the last of the line.
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That is why God invented basket cases for guys like us in the know.

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For every generation, there is someone who just can't accept the changes to the newer motorcycles. Lucky Tiebault wouldn't ride anything newer than a flathead. My friend Bill felt that the Iron Sportster was the last true Harley. I look at modern bikes and see that they're more reliable and more durable and require less maintenance, but they also are heavier. I really like my 2016 Roadster. It's possibly the best bike I've owned in many aspects, but there's a magic presence that the '78 XLH in the basement has that's different from the feeling I get from the newer bikes.

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Nice vid, thanks.
I hope they will keep it alive but I agree with the guy in the video. I'm also afraid designing a 4 valve with extra cooling will make them too expensive.

The best thing to do is to get rid of the European Union. The EU is a horrible administrative monster with an undemocratic streak. I'm European and I love my fellow Europeans and their countries, but if it is up to me that EU has to go a.s.a.p...(sorry about the rant).
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For every generation, there is someone who just can't accept the changes to the newer motorcycles. Lucky Tiebault wouldn't ride anything newer than a flathead. My friend Bill felt that the Iron Sportster was the last true Harley. I look at modern bikes and see that they're more reliable and more durable and require less maintenance, but they also are heavier. I really like my 2016 Roadster. It's possibly the best bike I've owned in many aspects, but there's a magic presence that the '78 XLH in the basement has that's different from the feeling I get from the newer bikes.

They're all good as long as they meet your needs in motorcycles.
I know the feeling. Most of my four wheeled vehicles are from the 70s for that same reason. I like my carbed Evos, but someday I'd like to build a hardtail Panhead. I'll sure keep the Sporties around for the electric start and the smooth suspension, but I know there's things the old bike will do that I can't get out of the new ones.
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I'm sure I don't know half as much about it as you do, but from the outside looking in I'd not disagree. The little I've heard from British friends I'd say they were on the right track with Brexit. And no need to apologize, far as I'm concerned it takes more than two sentences to make a rant.
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I'm sure I don't know half as much about it as you do, but from the outside looking in I'd not disagree. The little I've heard from British friends I'd say they were on the right track with Brexit. And no need to apologize, far as I'm concerned it takes more than two sentences to make a rant.
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