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"Wo ist der Bahnhof?"
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Left then straight ahead about 4 miles on the right???
....just remembered another one:
Sprechen sie Langsam Bitte.... Shiiite...Im on a roll.. Mebbe I'll hit OktoberFest this year!!!!
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Sprechen sie Langsam
In that case,you have to write langsam with a small letter in the beginning.
The personal address Sie you have to write with a big letter in the beginning.
Sprechen Sie langsam,bitte.
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Heh heh heh... Thanks for the Language lesson Ralph..!! I'll keep that in mind
Sounds like Oktoberfest has gone the way of Sturgis.
The year I made plans to go to the Oktoberfest, Red Brigrand or Baader Mienhoff (one of those outfits?) set off a bomb in a waste bin there and we were confined to Post.

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Hey.
Neither Baader-Meinhoff Group, nor the RAF (Rote Armee Fraktion),which was only a different name for the identical group,commited that assault in 1980.
That was only published by the ultraconservative press in that days,because the CSU (still the main political party in Bavaria) wanted them to do that.They thought,to stoke the public fears of the RAF, would help Franz Josef Strauss,the leader of the CSU in that days, and the CDU/CSU coalition to win the upcoming election for the German parliament.Fortunately it did not.
(Reminds me a little bit of George.W. and the 9/11).
In fact,this assault has been done by that deranged lone perpatrator,who had no political goals,Gundolf Köhler.He was killed by his own bomb.Köhler sympathised with rightists extremists.The RAF was left orientated,anarchistic-communistic.
The "Brigate Rosse"or red brigades never acted in Germany.This was an Italian thing.
They were mainly noticed for the kidnapping of Aldo Moro,the former leader of the Democrazia Cristiana
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I will NEVER learn when I should capitalize a word in German. English is SO much easier when it comes to capitalization.

I mean, in that sentence what makes the word Ecke and Seite so special?
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I will NEVER learn when I should capitalize a word in German. English is SO much easier when it comes to capitalization.

I mean, in that sentence what makes the word Ecke and Seite so special?
Hey.

Ecke und Seite are nouns-that's what makes these words so special ,no mistery IMO!

First of all, consider what must be capitalized in English but not in German: I/ich, American car/amerikanisches Auto and German wine/deutscher Wein (adjectives of nationality). Yes, it's a very short list!

Going the other way, there is only one word (besides all nouns) that German capitalizes but English does not: Sie (the formal "you" and its variations, i.e., Ihnen, Ihr). Although many German speakers continue to capitalize the informal "you" forms (du, dich, ihr, euch, etc.) in a letter or email, under the new rules, the formal Sie is the only pronoun requiring capitalization. (A logical rule, since the capitalization of Sie expresses distance and formality versus the closeness and familiarity of du.)

With the exception of German's all-noun capitalization, English capitalizes most of the same things that German does: Henry/Heinrich, First Union Bank/Deutsche Bank, Ms. Smith/Frau Schmidt (proper names, titles); Friday/Freitag, Juni/June (days of the week and months; many other languages don't, including French, Spanish and Italian), and the first letter in a sentence.

German capitalization rules only become a bit tricky (even for Germans) when it comes to details like am besten (superlative) versus zum Besten (superlative phrase) and some changes resulting from spelling reform (heute Morgen, Rad fahren, auf Deutsch, etc.). On the next page you'll find more examples and a closer look at the rules of German capitalization—and its history.

1. SUBSTANTIVE (Nouns)

All German nouns are capitalized. This simple rule was made even more consistent by the new spelling reforms. Whereas under the old rules there were exceptions in many common noun phrases and some verbs (radfahren, recht haben, heute abend), the 1996 reforms now require the nouns in such expressions to be capitalized (and set apart): Rad fahren (to ride a bike), Recht haben (to be right), heute Abend (this evening). Another example is a common phrase for languages, previously written without caps (auf englisch, in English) and now written with a capital letter: auf Englisch. The new rules make it easy. If it's a noun, capitalize it!


2. PRONOMEN (Pronouns)

Only the German personal pronoun "Sie" must be capitalized. Spelling reform logically left the formal Sie and its related forms (Ihnen, Ihr) capitalized, but called for the informal, familiar forms of "you" (du, dich, ihr, euch, etc.) to be in lower case letters. Out of habit or preference, many German speakers still capitalize du in their letters and email. But they don't have to. In public proclamations or fliers, the familiar plural forms of "you" (ihr, euch) are often capitalized: "Wir bitten Euch, liebe Mitglieder..." ("We bid you, dear members..."
Like most other languages, German does not capitalize the first-person-singular pronoun ich (I) unless it is the first word in a sentence.

3. ADJEKTIVE 1 (Adjectives 1)

German adjectives — including those of nationality — are NOT capitalized. In English, it is correct to write "the American writer" or "a German car." In German, adjectives are not capitalized, even if they refer to nationality: der amerikanische Präsident (the American president), ein deutsches Bier (a German beer). The only exception to this rule is when an adjective is part of a species name, a legal, geographic or historical term; an official title, certain holidays, or common expression: der Zweite Weltkrieg (the Second World War), der Nahe Osten (the Middle East), die Schwarze Witwe (the black widow [spider]), Regierender Bürgermeister ("ruling" mayor), der Weiße Hai (the great white shark), der Heilige Abend (Christmas Eve).

Even in book, film or organizational titles, adjectives are usually not capitalized: Die amerikanische Herausforderung (The American Challenge), Die weiße Rose (The White Rose), Amt für öffentlichen Verkehr (Office of Public Transportation). In fact, for book and movie titles in German, only the first word and any nouns are capitalized. (See the article on German Punctuation for more about book and film titles in German.)

Farben (colors) in German can be either nouns or adjectives. In certain prepositional phrases they are nouns: in Rot (in red), bei Grün (at green, i.e., when the light turns green). In most other situations, colors are adjectives: "das rote Haus," "Das Auto ist blau."

4. ADJEKTIVE 2 (Adjectives 2)
Substantivierte Adjektive & Zahlen
Nominalized Adjectives & Numbers

Nominalized adjectives are usually capitalized like nouns. Again, spelling reform brought more order to this category. Under the former rules, you wrote phrases like "Die nächste, bitte!" ("[The] Next, please!") without caps. The new rules logically changed that to "Die Nächste, bitte!" — reflecting the use of the adjective nächste as a noun (short for "die nächste Person"). The same is true for these expressions: im Allgemeinen (in general), nicht im Geringsten (not in the slightest), ins Reine schreiben (to make a neat copy, write a final draft), im Voraus (in advance).

Nominalized cardinal and ordinal numbers are capitalized. Ordnungszahlen and cardinal numbers (Kardinalzahlen) used as nouns are capitalized: "der Erste und der Letzte" (the first and last one), "jeder Dritte" (every third one). "In Mathe bekam er eine Fünf." (He got a five [D grade] in math.)

Superlatives with am are still not capitalized: am besten, am schnellsten, am meisten. The same is true for forms of ander (other), viel(e) (much, many) and wenig: "mit anderen teilen" (to share with others), "Es gibt viele, die das nicht können." (There are many who can't do that.)

More on that:
http://german.about.com/

Ralph

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