The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > HARLEY STREETFIGHTER FORUM > HARLEY STREETFIGHTER Motorcycle General Discussion and Problems
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Active Threads
0 Keep & Kill
Last Post: Graywolf
Posted On: 9 Minutes Ago
Replies: 14,287
Views: 802,878
0 opinion time (bike broke again)
Last Post: mrbreezeet1
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 34
0 OEM front brake pads vs EBC double h
Last Post: Nibelungen
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 9
Views: 168
0 What weight oil?
Last Post: brianbbs67
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 13
Views: 495
0 Grüezi aus der Schweiz
Last Post: brianbbs67
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 425
0 How much is a late 60's early 70's Sportster worth?
Last Post: brianbbs67
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 10
Views: 516
0 Share your Man Cave Garage ideas
Last Post: NGOT8R
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 28
Views: 470
0 1974 35mm fork boots
Last Post: brianbbs67
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 113
0 Seeking advice on shorter rear shocks
Last Post: Gulf Coaster
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 47
0 Hot Chicks on Hot Bikes
Last Post: hammer6315
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 10,383
Views: 1,816,677
0 screaming eagle cams
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 55
3 Shaky Dave Recovery
Last Post: Martysf
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 49
Views: 7,392
3 Wtb, Wts, Wtt, Wtg (Ironhead)
Last Post: dodgetrucken
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 54
Views: 240,308
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: trainman
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 14,965
Views: 1,414,666
0 Average age of the Ironhead forum users
Last Post: Kingrabbit
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 448
Views: 89,009
0 Powerraythor conversion
Last Post: ferretface
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 185
0 Best Battery Maintainer and/or Booster?
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 19
Views: 561
0 Full face, Half or skull cap?
Last Post: mikeLI_77
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 502
Views: 93,273
4 The no-debate OIL POLL
Last Post: boomerguy
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 267
Views: 69,545
0 Official XL Forum Random Image Thread (NO NUDITY!)
Last Post: hammer6315
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 45,476
Views: 7,178,630
0 This week on Craig's list
Last Post: Maxeffort
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 4,447
Views: 543,441
0 C.O.B.B. CBD oil
Last Post: gravydog
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 10
Views: 210
0 “Super Quiet” or “Interconnected” exhaust
Last Post: Magneto Sportster
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 4
Views: 149
0 Which Battery?
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 41
Views: 13,424
5 HAMMER vs NRHS vs S&S Conversion Kits
Last Post: Bulpitt
Posted On: 8 Hours Ago
Replies: 58
Views: 5,316
0 Battery self-discharge
Last Post: sportsterdoc
Posted On: 8 Hours Ago
Replies: 11
Views: 1,500
0 Duplicate Sensor Plugs on my '08
Last Post: DeadeyeRich
Posted On: 8 Hours Ago
Replies: 2
Views: 64
0 Huge cock up (XR1200 Clutch Mod)
Last Post: wedge
Posted On: 8 Hours Ago
Replies: 69
Views: 2,828
0 Transformer XR1200
Last Post: Davo_137
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 119
Views: 10,177
0 Benelli tank on 79’ sportster
Last Post: bustert
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 7
Views: 260
More...
Members Birthdays
Sponsored Links
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 31st July 2018
VaFish VaFish is offline
Chief Harley Engineer
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Northern, VA
Posts: 559
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Sportster/Buell Model #2: 883 Blue
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1997
Other Motorcycle Model: A pile of Ninja 250's
Other Motorcycle Year: 1988
Reputation: 843456
VaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond repute
Default Gotta Start a Thread for the Streetfighter Too!

So we are talking about the PanAmerica in the other thread.

What's your take on the Streetfighter?

https://www.zigwheels.com/news-featu...-expect/30809/

https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...etfighter.html

I think it's a sharp looking bike, but not really what I'm into riding. I will go to a dealership and take one for a test ride when they come out.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 31st July 2018
bplinson's Avatar
bplinson bplinson is offline
The XL Forum Host
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Somewhere in the woods, looking for a Geocache
Posts: 14,262
Sportster/Buell Model: 883>1250 Stage 2
Sportster/Buell Year: 2002
Other Motorcycle Model: Road Glide
Other Motorcycle Year: 2011
Reputation: 539289
bplinson has a reputation beyond reputebplinson has a reputation beyond reputebplinson has a reputation beyond reputebplinson has a reputation beyond reputebplinson has a reputation beyond reputebplinson has a reputation beyond reputebplinson has a reputation beyond reputebplinson has a reputation beyond reputebplinson has a reputation beyond reputebplinson has a reputation beyond reputebplinson has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I like it. Change is sometimes good. I just wonder if this means the end of the Sportster.
__________________
Germany Bert - Site Admin - Author of the FAMOUS THREAD 13!

XLF on FACEBOOK - http://www.facebook.com/XLFORUM

AMA #961454
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 31st July 2018
VaFish VaFish is offline
Chief Harley Engineer
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Northern, VA
Posts: 559
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Sportster/Buell Model #2: 883 Blue
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1997
Other Motorcycle Model: A pile of Ninja 250's
Other Motorcycle Year: 1988
Reputation: 843456
VaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond reputeVaFish has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bplinson View Post
I like it. Change is sometimes good. I just wonder if this means the end of the Sportster.
There is a whole nuther thread on that topic.

Big thing is this comment from Chief Operating Officer Michelle Kumbier as reported by Cycle World.

https://www.cycleworld.com/harley-da...following-2019

The silence was deafening in all of this as the word “Sportster” wasn’t part of the discussion. The likelihood that these new liquid-cooled middleweight twins are replacements for the Sportster line is low, so expect news in Harley-Davidson’s more traditional custom space. There is also the “adventure Sportster” shown in the video that suggests continued life for the air-cooled platform. “I wouldn’t jump to a conclusion that this product is necessarily a replacement for Sportster,” Kumbier said.


Although the model they refered to in that article as the Custom looks like it could be a Sportster replacement and is definitely made to be an Indian Scout fighter.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 1st August 2018
Nibelungen's Avatar
Nibelungen Nibelungen is offline
Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Emilia, Italy
Posts: 2,204
Sportster/Buell Model: xl883n Iron (2019 engine)
Sportster/Buell Year: 2017
Sportster/Buell Model #2: xl Hugger (sold)
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2001
Reputation: 7130865
Nibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VaFish View Post
There is a whole nuther thread on that topic.

Big thing is this comment from Chief Operating Officer Michelle Kumbier as reported by Cycle World.

https://www.cycleworld.com/harley-da...following-2019

The silence was deafening in all of this as the word “Sportster” wasn’t part of the discussion. The likelihood that these new liquid-cooled middleweight twins are replacements for the Sportster line is low, so expect news in Harley-Davidson’s more traditional custom space. There is also the “adventure Sportster” shown in the video that suggests continued life for the air-cooled platform. “I wouldn’t jump to a conclusion that this product is necessarily a replacement for Sportster,” Kumbier said.


Although the model they refered to in that article as the Custom looks like it could be a Sportster replacement and is definitely made to be an Indian Scout fighter.
sure he tells so nowadays... he still wants to sell EVO Sportsters...
after 2020 be sure he will speak differently
__________________
if the end justifies the means... then who does justify the end?

Last edited by Nibelungen; 1st August 2018 at 04:43..
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 1st August 2018
Nibelungen's Avatar
Nibelungen Nibelungen is offline
Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Emilia, Italy
Posts: 2,204
Sportster/Buell Model: xl883n Iron (2019 engine)
Sportster/Buell Year: 2017
Sportster/Buell Model #2: xl Hugger (sold)
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2001
Reputation: 7130865
Nibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond repute
Default

as for the streetfighter...
is a good looking bike... wicked and aggressive...
also
she seems a metric bike...
come to my mind Monster family or other naked superbikes...

IMO is the right answer to the new EU5 challenges
i only hope HD engineers know what they are involved in... that is a tech market full of competitors

If you want to sell a superbike... you have to had her equipped with tech stuff...

ABS cornering new generation
new breed of customizable Traction Control
full customizable maps
anti hopping clutch
shift fully reversible
etc...

otherwise that bike is simply not sold... at least in EU...

Last edited by Nibelungen; 1st August 2018 at 04:34..
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 2nd August 2018
madlim madlim is offline
Flat Track Champion
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Sweden
Posts: 649
Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200N
Sportster/Buell Year: 2008
Reputation: 555668
madlim has a reputation beyond reputemadlim has a reputation beyond reputemadlim has a reputation beyond reputemadlim has a reputation beyond reputemadlim has a reputation beyond reputemadlim has a reputation beyond reputemadlim has a reputation beyond reputemadlim has a reputation beyond reputemadlim has a reputation beyond reputemadlim has a reputation beyond reputemadlim has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nibelungen View Post
as for the streetfighter...
is a good looking bike... wicked and aggressive...
also
she seems a metric bike...
come to my mind Monster family or other naked superbikes...

IMO is the right answer to the new EU5 challenges
i only hope HD engineers know what they are involved in... that is a tech market full of competitors

If you want to sell a superbike... you have to had her equipped with tech stuff...

ABS cornering new generation
new breed of customizable Traction Control
full customizable maps
anti hopping clutch
shift fully reversible
etc...

otherwise that bike is simply not sold... at least in EU...
I agree wholeheartedly, and at the same time the bolded paragraph is what scares me! There is some hardcore competition in this segment already, why would a potential buyer go with this instead of say a Kawa Z900, Honda CB1000R or a KTM SuperDuke? They (HD that is) does not have the brand loyal people in this segment, rather the opposite. I applaud their effort but I have my doubts. Still, if I would be in the market for a new bike in 2020 this is the first HD that has my interest.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 31st July 2018
jammantoo's Avatar
jammantoo jammantoo is offline
foot in mouth member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: trust me, it is in the middle of nowhere
Posts: 463
Sportster/Buell Model: 48
Sportster/Buell Year: 2016
Other Motorcycle Model: Dou-glide
Other Motorcycle Year: 63
Reputation: 859815
jammantoo has a reputation beyond reputejammantoo has a reputation beyond reputejammantoo has a reputation beyond reputejammantoo has a reputation beyond reputejammantoo has a reputation beyond reputejammantoo has a reputation beyond reputejammantoo has a reputation beyond reputejammantoo has a reputation beyond reputejammantoo has a reputation beyond reputejammantoo has a reputation beyond reputejammantoo has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I think as long as there are sales for the sportster, and it passes EPA, it will be in the line.
After all there is no residual cost to recover, very little engineering has been done since the rubermount efi change.
The platform is almost pure profit.
__________________
Join the PEANUT CLUB, it gives you an excuse to stop and smell the roses
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 1st August 2018
Nibelungen's Avatar
Nibelungen Nibelungen is offline
Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Emilia, Italy
Posts: 2,204
Sportster/Buell Model: xl883n Iron (2019 engine)
Sportster/Buell Year: 2017
Sportster/Buell Model #2: xl Hugger (sold)
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2001
Reputation: 7130865
Nibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond reputeNibelungen has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jammantoo View Post
I think as long as there are sales for the sportster, and it passes EPA, it will be in the line.
After all there is no residual cost to recover, very little engineering has been done since the rubermount efi change.
The platform is almost pure profit.
+1
IMO is quite so...
the answer of Mo.Co. at the new EU5 (or new EPA) is to pour money on the developement of the new models... as long as EU4 is in charge there is no danger for our beloved bikes to die...

after 2020 there will be a new beginning... and the old EVO engines will became history... with all the pros and cons...

Last edited by Nibelungen; 1st August 2018 at 04:43..
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 1st August 2018
Toejam503's Avatar
Toejam503 Toejam503 is offline
Air-Cooled Forever
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dakota Territory
Posts: 2,755
Sportster/Buell Model: XL 1200 C
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Sportster/Buell Model #2: (Prev.Own)XLH Milw.Spec.
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1981
Reputation: 5022919
Toejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond reputeToejam503 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

A hooligan version of a Buell, NICE...this one oughtta make the Ducs scatter.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #10  
Old 1st August 2018
Wyo George Wyo George is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 21
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200 Low
Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
Reputation: 29496
Wyo George is a name known to allWyo George is a name known to allWyo George is a name known to allWyo George is a name known to allWyo George is a name known to allWyo George is a name known to allWyo George is a name known to allWyo George is a name known to allWyo George is a name known to allWyo George is a name known to allWyo George is a name known to all
Default

If it has respectable power, reasonable weight and good brakes and suspension at an appropriate price I'll certainly add one to the collection. I tend to buy a new bike every couple years as long as I don't run out of garage space (and I won't) so this may be my 2021 bike. Next year is a new bagger so the timing will be about right to buy one of these in 2021.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Sponsored Links
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:36.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC