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Old 23rd January 2006
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I've been watching oil consumption threads on this and other forums closely because I have an '05 FatBoy. It seems that H-D switched to different valve seals on '05 BTs (purportedly the same seals as were used very successfully on '04 sporties) and there have been frequent oil consumption problems with them (the BTs NOT the sporties) on intake and/or exhaust (can usually tell if either or both are problems by plug or pipe blackening). So far my bike has used literally no oil between changes @ 1K, 2.5K, 5K and 7.5K but I'm just waiting for it to happen (8700 miles now). Warrantied until 12/06, so I've got another riding season to watch it.

Like others have mentioned I'm not buying that using a quart in 1-1.5K miles is "normal."

Anyway, the only reason I wrote all this is to let you know that the brouhaha involves twinkies, not sporties.

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According to quite a few members on this forum the problem does'nt seem limited to the 'twinkies'.
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During the first 5000 miles on my 04 1200, I'd go through a quart every 1000 miles. I took it easy on the bike for the break-in, but afterwards I rode the out of it. After 5000 miles I went with the HD synthetic and still run the out of it with no excessive oil consumption issues.
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I have never had any type of vehicle use oil. I think that is a crock saying that is normal.
I used to have a Ford Galaxie 500 that I bought for $50 which used a quart of tranny fluid every 2.5 miles.

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I used to have a Ford Galaxie 500 that I bought for $50 which used a quart of tranny fluid every 2.5 miles.

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If it's using a quart every 1000 miles I bet the plugs sure look great! Probably pisses off whoever is ridin behind em. Seems a little excessive to me. Seen some forged piston stuff use a little oil in cold weather until ya warmed em up real good. Remember the old Chevy's with the o-ring valve seals (V-8) that would puff a little blue when ya fired em up. Most the time when ya pulled the heads off the valve seals were long since gone. They still only used a quart every 3000 and thats with 16 valves. Just don't see the oil consumption problems in too many evo's either. Look how many there are. My 1200R has 13,000 miles on it and I have never seen any noticeable oil consumption. The plugs look like new when changed also. You can bet I'd be talkin to someone if that was not the case, (1qt:1000mi), WOW! I'm thinking rings and blow-by myself. Bet they actually screwed up the hone and ring package! Probably saved a few million $$ on some new, better, stuff. I wouldn't think it would consume that much oil without any valve seals installed. Not going to try it though. Looks like a loop hole to get out of sealing it up to me. Imagine that! As stated by others, engines are not usually 100 % sealed. Still doesn't mean there aren't plenty at 90 plus %, and that's not using very much oil.
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my 05 1200 has 4,000 miles on it.
i started using syth at 600 miles.
i have 2,000 miles on my last oil change and have usen 2 cups or less
i did the break in a by the book except i could not leave the break in oil in it 1,000 miles in the summer heat. so i changed at 600 miles. i used no oil in the first 600 miles.
I ride on 05 1200 custom. It is one years old. I changed from Dino to Syn 3 at 1,000 miles. I broke her in just right. I check my oil religously and I can honestly say that the oil level on a hot check on the jiffy is always at the same level which is just a tick below full. I think an angel in Kansas City put my bike together and yes HD says that my 05 sporty with HD syn3 should be changed every 5,000 miles and every 3,000 on HD dino. Since the 5,000 mile srevice, she is spot on with the oil and I ride my bike. It's no garage queen...

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1 qt every 1000 miles pretty much negates the reason to even do oil changes. It's on a constant change.
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Got a 2005 1200c that smokes like a freight train. done it since it was new. it has 2800 miles on it. put rings on front cyl. and 18094-02 valve seals on it at 1400 miles. still does it. at 2600 miles on it put a brand new head on front cyl. still smoked. went to daytona last week and talked to harley about it and they said they had no problems on sportster but they heard of it on big twins. just get it to opperating temp and rev it up and let off and see if your sportie smokes. i put the new 18094-02a seals on it and have not tried it yet. they look just like the 18094-02 seals but the rubber part is orange. i will let you know what it does thanks jeff
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My 04 Roadster has 25000 miles on it(40,000KM) since June 04. During break in it used 1/2 Quart, after that I have only ever added 1/4 quart after about 2500 miles or about the mid point before change time.
BUT, I cant keep the oil tank full to the top, I use Syn3 and if I fill the oil tank to the top it seeps out by the O ring on the oil dip stick, and collects along the edges and valleys of the oil tank and very rarely is visible untill you pull a side cover off.
Therefore the oil tank is kept a a 3/4 full level all the time,, this seems to control the leakage, but it aint burnin it. I have had other follow me for hours and have said nothing when asked.
I drive this bike hard and long,, I see red line more than not.
As far as I can see this bike burns very little oil compared to some of my buddies who have similar probs.
If this thing burned a quart every 1000 miles HD would hear about it,,
Glad I bought the 7 year warranty,, listening the all of this if it starts its covered till 2011.
What I find with most of my buddies is they lug their motors, thinking they need to shift every gear at 2700 rpm,, this burns oil.
This bike has stock cams and heads, it wants and needs to be reved.
After breakin my normal shift RPM is between 5000 and 5500 rpm in every gear. I keep my cruising RPM at 3500-4000 in every gear
It loves it and constantly wants more,,
I live by my mechanics statement when he did my 1000mile inspection,,,
RIDE IT LIKE YOU JUST STOLE IT---and I do all the time.
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