The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE ZONE > Sportster Motorcycle Era Specific and Model Specific > Frame Mount EVO Sportster Talk (1986-2003 models)
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Active Threads
0 Brake Squeek
Last Post: Tucsonmax1
Posted On: 10 Minutes Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 1
0 so,, amazing,,how u guys are sucking,, knowlege
Last Post: cazz1000
Posted On: 11 Minutes Ago
Replies: 0
Views: 1
0 HAMMERPerf 90" In the Works
Last Post: jkinkade
Posted On: 42 Minutes Ago
Replies: 1,457
Views: 146,581
0 Lets see your off season builds
Last Post: cycowrencher
Posted On: 46 Minutes Ago
Replies: 1,032
Views: 105,581
0 Range With EFI 4.5 Gal Tank
Last Post: jzink0883
Posted On: 49 Minutes Ago
Replies: 138
Views: 47,688
0 70 xlch clutch
Last Post: jwheld
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 88
Views: 2,339
0 HER 42 gas leaking from drain hose?
Last Post: rokytnji
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 25
Views: 307
0 Intro from New England
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 197
0 Future of the sporty?
Last Post: felis
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 79
Views: 2,966
0 What did you do for your sporty Today?
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 5,029
Views: 525,471
0 Not charging issue!
Last Post: bustert
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 41
0 1977 Bright Blue
Last Post: bustert
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 136
0 Where do you ride in the lane?
Last Post: robistro
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 19
Views: 371
0 HAMMER PERFORMANCE Tech Tip Videos
Last Post: T^2
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 15
Views: 454
0 Mikuni HSR42
Last Post: Bulpitt
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 41
0 Where did it go?
Last Post: mwXL 2006
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 4
Views: 247
0 Official XL Forum Random Image Thread (NO NUDITY!)
Last Post: BWP 5p
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 40,094
Views: 6,156,115
0 z bars
Last Post: Bryan83taco
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 81
0 Joe Minton article on HSR 42 tuning
Last Post: The Crusher
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 10
Views: 2,438
5 Another "new guy" rumor or fact question....
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 24
Views: 1,276
0 2001 883 'customizing' log
Last Post: Jheitt
Posted On: 3 Hours Ago
Replies: 27
Views: 1,233
0 Problems with recently rebuilt transmission
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 81
Views: 4,135
0 My Not So Stock 1980 XLS < Brakes >
Last Post: brucstoudt
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 107
Views: 6,245
0 CARB: 2024 motorcycle emission requirements; Maybe as early as 2021?
Last Post: 60Gunner
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 117
0 Sportster tour pak with Givi v47nn Tech Case
Last Post: FuriousGeorg
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 6
Views: 470
3 Wtb, Wts, Wtt, Wtg (Ironhead)
Last Post: church house mark
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 41
Views: 190,525
0 A Day in the Life...
Last Post: DK Custom
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 571
Views: 48,907
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 6,094
Views: 412,643
0 Summer Bike Nights at Conshohocken Brewing!
Last Post: BILLETPROOF
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 6
Views: 235
More...
Members Birthdays
SoCal 1200N (57), riverar7 (53), rx3732 (44), gnrxl2002 (40)
Sponsored Links
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11th May 2011
Kudofo's Avatar
Kudofo Kudofo is offline
Flat Track Racer
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chula Vista
Posts: 219
Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster 1200 Custom
Sportster/Buell Year: 1987
Reputation: 2773
Kudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the rough
Default Checking Primary Oil Level in 87

Now I don't believe I can pull off my cover like you with Allen bolts can.

So what is the best way to check the level of the oil in the primary.

My main concern is that my clutch cable does leak a tad and there are a few leaks around the bike which might be coming from the primary.

A simple check and top up and I would be happy.

So whose got the best way. And if you say pull the drain plug and fill up a bucket and measure it to reuse I say no to you good sir.

I ride my bike every single day to work now and every time I park I get a few drips of oil. Engine oil in the bag is obviously stupid easy to replace but primary oil is a little more tricky.

__________________
1987 Harley-Davidson Sportster 883 conversion 1250. Python 3 exhaust, S&S super E Carb, Ported and polished heads, Ported intake manifold, ev3 Cams, Dunlop 401 F, Dunlop K591 Rear, Dual disc front brakes, Progressive front springs, Rear 401 springs/shocks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11th May 2011
williamv1203's Avatar
williamv1203 williamv1203 is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: On The Edge... of Scotland
Posts: 4,606
Sportster/Buell Model: 1203 XLH/Buell Hybrid
Sportster/Buell Year: 1988
Other Motorcycle Model: FXDWG TC88
Other Motorcycle Year: 2000
Reputation: 63438
williamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to behold
Default

Along the bottom of the cover, but not in line with the securing bolts, is one allen head bolt that is specifically for checking the level. It's just up and to the left of the primary chain adjuster bolt.

With bike upright and no lean, remove this bolt. If no fluid comes out, it's low. If it does, it's okay.

Last edited by williamv1203; 11th May 2011 at 07:12..
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11th May 2011
kd460's Avatar
kd460 kd460 is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 273
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH883
Sportster/Buell Year: 1987
kd460 has disabled reputation
Default

On the stock cover it came from the factory with a phillips head machine screw in the location descibed by williamv1203.

Yep, standing upright (not leaning on jiffy stand) check the level. If that screw has not been removed in a while, might want to get a good impact driver and bit on it to break it free and avoid boogering up the phillips head.

I used to use sport trans fluid, but now, I guess factory says their synthetic 20w-50 is fine? I just screw the top (pointed snout type cap) from a bottle of differential fluid onto the oil container and add it to the plug that you use to check primary chain tension. (directly abover shift lever/footpeg).

Be careful with the primary plug (chevy symbol) if you dont have the tool, it is easy to chip up the metal when removing/installing. I used just a piece of flat stock aluminum (1/4 thick I think, can't remember) cut to fit in the plug. Then just grab the tab with an adjustable wrench. Worked for years, finally bought the correct socket a few years ago. KD
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11th May 2011
Kudofo's Avatar
Kudofo Kudofo is offline
Flat Track Racer
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chula Vista
Posts: 219
Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster 1200 Custom
Sportster/Buell Year: 1987
Reputation: 2773
Kudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the rough
Default

I got amsoil 20w-50 in it. But cool thanks guys. I was wondering what that Allen head was for (I guess miens been replaced)

I will definitely check it when I get home from work today.

I keep trying to fix my leaks but I swear I fix one... and 5 more pop up. I thought this was an evo not an iron head.


I popped my plugs off with a wood dowel and a hammer. Worked just fine no damage to the metal.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11th May 2011
silent bob silent bob is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 27
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH1100
Sportster/Buell Year: 1986
Reputation: 10
silent bob is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

I just replaced the primary cover gasket on my '86 (which was a bit of a pain with having to remove the forward controls). The plugs on mine must have been changed before I got it because they have carriage-type bolt heads with a big (BIG) allen key hole to remove them. So, you should be able to buy the same ones somewhere. The primary holds 32 ounces (1 qt.) which doesn't seem like much. Like the previous post mentioned, if you remove the weep hole screw and some oil comes out, you are good to go. That's really the only way to check the level.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11th May 2011
Kudofo's Avatar
Kudofo Kudofo is offline
Flat Track Racer
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chula Vista
Posts: 219
Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster 1200 Custom
Sportster/Buell Year: 1987
Reputation: 2773
Kudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by silent bob View Post
I just replaced the primary cover gasket on my '86 (which was a bit of a pain with having to remove the forward controls). The plugs on mine must have been changed before I got it because they have carriage-type bolt heads with a big (BIG) allen key hole to remove them. So, you should be able to buy the same ones somewhere. The primary holds 32 ounces (1 qt.) which doesn't seem like much. Like the previous post mentioned, if you remove the weep hole screw and some oil comes out, you are good to go. That's really the only way to check the level.
Im sure my gasket needs changing. So does the seal around the shifter and whatever stops the cable from leaking? Might be an O ring.

I still have to tear down my rocker boxes and do a gasket change on them -.-

I mean mild oil leaks are fine by mean I just want the ability to check my oil.

Once I get some free time Ill tear the primary side down and seal it all back up.

Then when I do the rocker boxes I will tear down the cam side and change all the gaskets.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11th May 2011
silent bob silent bob is offline
Biker
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 27
Sportster/Buell Model: XLH1100
Sportster/Buell Year: 1986
Reputation: 10
silent bob is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Yeah, I had a few minor leaks also and my plan was to also just add oil to the primary and see how long it could go without doing the gasket change, but it finally decided to blow out and leak out almost all the oil from the bottom part of the gasket. That was the final deciding factor for me to have to do it. It wasn't too bad, but took a couple hours start to finish.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11th May 2011
Kudofo's Avatar
Kudofo Kudofo is offline
Flat Track Racer
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chula Vista
Posts: 219
Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster 1200 Custom
Sportster/Buell Year: 1987
Reputation: 2773
Kudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by silent bob View Post
Yeah, I had a few minor leaks also and my plan was to also just add oil to the primary and see how long it could go without doing the gasket change, but it finally decided to blow out and leak out almost all the oil from the bottom part of the gasket. That was the final deciding factor for me to have to do it. It wasn't too bad, but took a couple hours start to finish.
I dont think mines from the gasket itself though. Its from everything but the gasket. I was just saying since I was gunna rip everything off anyway to change the seal.

I use my bike as my daily driver because I don't trust my car. Im gonna save up $200 and do a bunch of work to fix all my oil leaks, do a valve adjustment, change as much of the gaskets out as I can.


Edit:

I want to buy this
http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/produc...&mmyId=1600591
and do it all
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12th May 2011
Kudofo's Avatar
Kudofo Kudofo is offline
Flat Track Racer
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chula Vista
Posts: 219
Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster 1200 Custom
Sportster/Buell Year: 1987
Reputation: 2773
Kudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the roughKudofo is a jewel in the rough
Default

Alright had my fiance keep the bike level and I pulled the weep screw.

No oil at all. So I popped off the top cover and started dumping in oil... and more oil and more oil... I was a 1/3 quart low.


Guess its time to invest in that seal kit soon huh.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #10  
Old 12th May 2011
williamv1203's Avatar
williamv1203 williamv1203 is offline
Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: On The Edge... of Scotland
Posts: 4,606
Sportster/Buell Model: 1203 XLH/Buell Hybrid
Sportster/Buell Year: 1988
Other Motorcycle Model: FXDWG TC88
Other Motorcycle Year: 2000
Reputation: 63438
williamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to beholdwilliamv1203 is a splendid one to behold
Exclamation

Quote:
Originally Posted by silent bob View Post
I just replaced the primary cover gasket on my '86 (which was a bit of a pain with having to remove the forward controls). The plugs on mine must have been changed before I got it because they have carriage-type bolt heads with a big (BIG) allen key hole to remove them. So, you should be able to buy the same ones somewhere. The primary holds 32 ounces (1 qt.) which doesn't seem like much. Like the previous post mentioned, if you remove the weep hole screw and some oil comes out, you are good to go. That's really the only way to check the level.
No, it seems too much. The 86 - 90 only takes 24 oz.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Sponsored Links
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:26.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC