The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM®
 

Go Back   The Sportster and Buell Motorcycle Forum - The XLFORUM® > SPORTSTER MOTORCYCLE FORUM > Sportster Motorcycle Drivetrain > Sportster Motorcycle Transmission, Clutch, Primary & Secondary Drive
XLF Blogs XLF Arcade XLF Disclaimer/Privacy Statement/Terms Of Use

Notices

Sportster Motorcycle Transmission, Clutch, Primary & Secondary Drive Transmission, Clutch and primary or secondary drive problems, advice, and/or how tos.

Active Threads
0 Rocketmangb
Last Post: seajay
Posted On: 13 Minutes Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 87
0 carb needle replacement procedure
Last Post: Folkie
Posted On: 22 Minutes Ago
Replies: 3
Views: 50
0 Tank flush
Last Post: NLXL
Posted On: 48 Minutes Ago
Replies: 1
Views: 66
0 Keep & Kill
Last Post: Crusty
Posted On: 51 Minutes Ago
Replies: 27,039
Views: 1,565,977
0 Getting old is a bitch!
Last Post: brucstoudt
Posted On: 1 Hour Ago
Replies: 39
Views: 8,214
0 85 Ironhead, Kiffy Stand Question
Last Post: eddie XLX
Posted On: 2 Hours Ago
Replies: 6
Views: 326
0 Turn signals stopped blinking
Last Post: RandallM
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 320
0 Allegheny National Park III
Last Post: skien
Posted On: 4 Hours Ago
Replies: 106
Views: 7,862
0 Clutch Replacement
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 18
Views: 511
0 Iree's late night cafe
Last Post: ~Grind~
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 2,231
Views: 402,278
0 My new deer rifle
Last Post: kiwicafesporty
Posted On: 5 Hours Ago
Replies: 12
Views: 218
0 Seeking info on IH drag bike
Last Post: 11B40
Posted On: 6 Hours Ago
Replies: 25
Views: 1,605
0 What kind of saddle do you use on your sporty?
Last Post: speedyrette
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 317
Views: 107,361
4 Sportster ignition/vacuum/carb/fuel/electrical issues?
Last Post: shtbskt
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 5
Views: 91
0 Your Riding Thoughts & Attitudes
Last Post: Brad
Posted On: 7 Hours Ago
Replies: 28
Views: 1,835
0 Upside Down Monoshock IH - A Longterm Project
Last Post: Ireeman
Posted On: 8 Hours Ago
Replies: 346
Views: 76,635
0 video & pics
Last Post: Tim The Grim
Posted On: 9 Hours Ago
Replies: 813
Views: 85,493
0 What did you do for your sporty Today?
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 11 Hours Ago
Replies: 7,889
Views: 1,372,810
0 Official XL Forum Random Image Thread (NO NUDITY!)
Last Post: Graywolf
Posted On: 11 Hours Ago
Replies: 53,092
Views: 8,996,565
0 Sportster S on the dyno
Last Post: Fivecats
Posted On: 11 Hours Ago
Replies: 8
Views: 1,500
5 Removing primary engine sprocket nut with heat gun, special caution needed?
Last Post: Ferrous Head
Posted On: 12 Hours Ago
Replies: 37
Views: 1,454
0 Roads I'd like to ride.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 12 Hours Ago
Replies: 3,747
Views: 444,205
0 Hottie of the day, no nudity.
Last Post: Stairman
Posted On: 12 Hours Ago
Replies: 34,142
Views: 4,124,874
0 1967 on FaceBook. Florida.
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 12 Hours Ago
Replies: 4
Views: 196
0 04 Sportster refurb and build.
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 13 Hours Ago
Replies: 124
Views: 9,917
0 VOES issues? Adjustments needed?
Last Post: Tomcatt
Posted On: 17 Hours Ago
Replies: 18
Views: 645
0 Hot Chicks on Hot Bikes
Last Post: sportsterpaul
Posted On: 17 Hours Ago
Replies: 12,750
Views: 3,085,842
0 High beam not working
Last Post: joe s
Posted On: 17 Hours Ago
Replies: 14
Views: 505
5 Best way to ship large parts?
Last Post: John Harper
Posted On: 18 Hours Ago
Replies: 6
Views: 200
0 who has NOT had problems with the XL
Last Post: 84rzv500r
Posted On: 18 Hours Ago
Replies: 778
Views: 228,043
More...
Members Birthdays
77xlch, buell_fxr (76), Danny (65), Wino (53), mucas859a (48), no_chrome (47), USMC_Davii (45), dijitaldna (40), 08nightmare
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 17th June 2008
Ralphthe3rd's Avatar
Ralphthe3rd Ralphthe3rd is offline
Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: In a house on a hill in Central Pa.
Posts: 3,045
Sportster/Buell Model: 883R
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell P3
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2001
Other Motorcycle Model: Ninja650R traded for 883R
Other Motorcycle Year: 2006
Reputation: 52723
Ralphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to behold
Default

Actually this is a very acute problem with those who speed shift their bikes, and (tube frame) Buells were more prone to this failure, but Sporties aren't immune ! BTW- when they redesigned the whole motor for the rubbermounts in '04, they totally relocated the detent plate and it's part of the shift drum now, and it's now longer even located in the primary, it's inside the cases...at least thats what I've gleaned from the service manual pix.

PS- I love my '07 Rubbermount

__________________
~Ralph (gonna try not being so Feisty)
*Former- AMA N.E. District 2 Flattracker #15u '74-'84
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 18th June 2008
mrbreezeet1's Avatar
mrbreezeet1 mrbreezeet1 is offline
Flat Track Racer
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wheeling WV
Posts: 222
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200 custom
Sportster/Buell Year: 2002
Reputation: 129
mrbreezeet1 is on a distinguished roadmrbreezeet1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralphthe3rd View Post
BTW- when they redesigned the whole motor for the rubbermounts in '04, they totally relocated the detent plate and it's part of the shift drum now, and it's now longer even located in the primary, it's inside the cases...at least thats what I've gleaned from the service manual pix.

PS- I love my '07 Rubbermount

I understand you have to split the case to get to the tranny now. And they did away with the trap door.
I take it that means removing the motor from the frame?
Tony
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 18th June 2008
Ralphthe3rd's Avatar
Ralphthe3rd Ralphthe3rd is offline
Master Custom Bike Builder
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: In a house on a hill in Central Pa.
Posts: 3,045
Sportster/Buell Model: 883R
Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell P3
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2001
Other Motorcycle Model: Ninja650R traded for 883R
Other Motorcycle Year: 2006
Reputation: 52723
Ralphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to beholdRalphthe3rd is a splendid one to behold
Arrow thats true, but....

The tranny is built so well now, I never heard of one single case that a rubbermount has needed ANY tranny work, and I'm even talkin ones that have already done 100,000 miles !
Yeah sure the trap door was convenient, but 98% of all other bikes sold today- DON'T have trap doors ! Besides, most solid mount (Evo)XL riders never put on enough miles anyway, to need any tranny work done thru the trap door. I think the Trap door was more a hold over from the iron head days, when trannies weren't built all that well. BTW- all the Buell XB's don't use a trap door either.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbreezeet1 View Post
I understand you have to split the case to get to the tranny now. And they did away with the trap door.
I take it that means removing the motor from the frame?
Tony
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 6th August 2016
BlackBikeDave's Avatar
BlackBikeDave BlackBikeDave is offline
Flat Track Champion
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Asheville
Posts: 698
Sportster/Buell Model: XL 1200 Custom
Sportster/Buell Year: 2003
Reputation: 247388
BlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant future
Default

old old thread with no ending..lol..what did you ever use in place of the stock detent clip. or how do you properly install the OEM clip? anyone got tips and pics?
__________________
Jerome 'Kid' Campo - 2/27/13 RIP "and I Ride like the Wind..To Be Free Again"
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 6th August 2016
MatHormell's Avatar
MatHormell MatHormell is offline
Senior Chief Harley Engineer 1st Class
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Merica!Fock YA!
Posts: 1,342
Sportster/Buell Model: XL883R
Sportster/Buell Year: 2002
Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell XB12R
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2009
Other Motorcycle Model: Yamaha
Other Motorcycle Year: 95
Reputation: 1127861
MatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Ultimate fix for the shitty design with the circlip.. thread the shaft and use a lock nut




Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk
__________________
HAMMER PERFORMANCE 90 Ci
CP .500 Dome Pistons
Axtel Cast Iron Cylinders
HAMMER PERFORMANCE .600 Cams
1.725 Ratio S&S Rocker Arms
HAMMER PERFORMANCE Intake Manifold
HSR 48 Miunki
XR1200 Crank Conversion W/ Case Mod 34T
HAMMER PERFORMANCE Sledge+ Head Work
2.020" Intake and 1.630" Exhaust Valves
Conical Valve Springs
S&S Premium Lifters
HAMMER PERFORMANCE Billet Push Rod Bases
Barnett Clutch Hub With Scorpion Clutch
Dynatek 2000i
R&D MOTORSPORTS- TRANSMISSION WORK-REM ISF
WorldWideBearings
Patriot Defender Exhaust
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 6th August 2016
bustert's Avatar
bustert bustert is offline
XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 10,750
Sportster/Buell Model: 1200s
Sportster/Buell Year: 2001
Sportster/Buell Model #2: xlch
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1974
Reputation: 3396807
bustert has a reputation beyond reputebustert has a reputation beyond reputebustert has a reputation beyond reputebustert has a reputation beyond reputebustert has a reputation beyond reputebustert has a reputation beyond reputebustert has a reputation beyond reputebustert has a reputation beyond reputebustert has a reputation beyond reputebustert has a reputation beyond reputebustert has a reputation beyond repute
Default

super duper +1 red tiger, that is the cat's meow for the drum. the e-clip can fail also. when my 01 xls spit the detent, it was steel and was replace with steel so it is still around. what I used was a thin ss washer and spiral ring, there is no gap to work against. if you can not find one, I also used ss safety wire with great success but must be correctly installed.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 7th August 2016
BlackBikeDave's Avatar
BlackBikeDave BlackBikeDave is offline
Flat Track Champion
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Asheville
Posts: 698
Sportster/Buell Model: XL 1200 Custom
Sportster/Buell Year: 2003
Reputation: 247388
BlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant future
Default

[QUOTE=MatHormell;5424491]Ultimate fix for the shitty design with the circlip.. thread the shaft and use a lock nut




Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk[/QUO
How did you do that? Looks great and I would not give that another thought after putting the primary back together.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 7th August 2016
MatHormell's Avatar
MatHormell MatHormell is offline
Senior Chief Harley Engineer 1st Class
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Merica!Fock YA!
Posts: 1,342
Sportster/Buell Model: XL883R
Sportster/Buell Year: 2002
Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell XB12R
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2009
Other Motorcycle Model: Yamaha
Other Motorcycle Year: 95
Reputation: 1127861
MatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond repute
Default

[QUOTE=BlackBikeDave;5424650]
Quote:
Originally Posted by MatHormell View Post
Ultimate fix for the shitty design with the circlip.. thread the shaft and use a lock nut




Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk[/QUO
How did you do that? Looks great and I would not give that another thought after putting the primary back together.
Mark at RD motorsports did it.. It's solid dude.. Doesn't move at all

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 7th August 2016
MatHormell's Avatar
MatHormell MatHormell is offline
Senior Chief Harley Engineer 1st Class
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Merica!Fock YA!
Posts: 1,342
Sportster/Buell Model: XL883R
Sportster/Buell Year: 2002
Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell XB12R
Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2009
Other Motorcycle Model: Yamaha
Other Motorcycle Year: 95
Reputation: 1127861
MatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond reputeMatHormell has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The baker drum is the same way as well I believe

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 12th August 2016
BlackBikeDave's Avatar
BlackBikeDave BlackBikeDave is offline
Flat Track Champion
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Asheville
Posts: 698
Sportster/Buell Model: XL 1200 Custom
Sportster/Buell Year: 2003
Reputation: 247388
BlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant futureBlackBikeDave has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bustert View Post
super duper +1 red tiger, that is the cat's meow for the drum. the e-clip can fail also. when my 01 xls spit the detent, it was steel and was replace with steel so it is still around. what I used was a thin ss washer and spiral ring, there is no gap to work against. if you can not find one, I also used ss safety wire with great success but must be correctly installed.
I'd love if you posted a picture of the set up you used. I spent more time than I care to tell anyone fetching various sized washers and e clips from every local place I could find. Nothing worked for me and no one heard of the spring clip you are talking about. I decided to just clean everything real good and use the red loctite and the factory (kooky clip). If I ever have to get in the tranny again I am taking that shaft to a machinist and get that end threaded.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:56.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
XL Forum® - Linson Media LLC