'06 Sporty Rumors

[bplinson]

Okay the '06 Sportsters will be released soon so have you all heard aobut them?

I have heard that '06 is not the year for EFI.

[gronk62]

I ain't heard any rumours but I kinda hope they are just the same bike..maybe with different paint. :)

[stevo]

I think they'll be the same but different...............

[DM-SC]

I think they'll be the same but different...............

:roflblack Me tinks U's right!

[Lippi]

I believe i've already seen the that they aren't much different but the colors.
I'm can't remember what the colors were, so I must of not been impressed.

[jobeta]

I heard the annoucement will be coming up next week, according to www.motorcyclecruiser.com. Let's hope for the coolest bikes, although I am looking forward for the 50th anniv. of the Sporty. I want to get me one of those.

[dwardy]

I bet they'll call 'em..."Sportster"

:D

[MusclePump]

I bet there will be 883 and 1200 versions. Just a hunch.

[sportsterrific]

I spoke to an engineer at HD and he told me that rlgmer erogh fi mbvowzsoig vodmdpv mdfonm.

[GOTWA]

I believe i've already seen the that they aren't much different but the colors.....

Inside scoop is, they are going to produce all Sportsters in just one color.

PINK.

Then it will officially be a girl's bike and put an end to the debate.

:boxing

[Kath]

I hate pink.

[GOTWA]

I hate pink.
I like pink. ;)

[Lippi]

Ditto.... I hate Pink too.

[Kath]

I like pink. ;)

Well, that's a good quality for you to have though :)

[GOTWA]

Well, that's a good quality for you to have though :)
Dance, nanner. DANCE! :gun :banana

[whispanic]

Mabey this year they will runner mount the seat! Then it will be perfect.

BTW

I looooove me some Pink :p

[DirtDevil]

Can anybody else confirm the lineup announcement this week? I don't see it on www.motorcyclecruiser.com as mentioned above, but maybe I'm missing it. Either way its gotta be soon, HD reported their quarterly results last week, and the following year model lineup announcement usually follows right away (last year it was the very next day).

From what I've head its just new color options for the Sporty this year, but I'm sure EFI is in the future (uggghhh).

[GOTWA]

Can anybody else confirm the lineup announcement this week? I don't see it on www.motorcyclecruiser.com as mentioned above, but maybe I'm missing it. Either way its gotta be soon, HD reported their quarterly results last week, and the following year model lineup announcement usually follows right away (last year it was the very next day).

From what I've head its just new color options for the Sporty this year, but I'm sure EFI is in the future (uggghhh).

According to my dealer, you won't be seeing any new models until Sturgis.

[Kath]

Dance, nanner. DANCE! :gun :banana

Yeah, baby! Yeeeehawwwww! Shake that thang! :clap

[whispanic]

Mabey the will announce they shot the chinaman that fabbed the cheap Kevlar belts!

[MusclePump]

What's EFI?

[Kath]

Electronic Fuel Injection

[GOTWA]

What's EFI?

It's a yuppie thing.

[MusclePump]

Why is EFI so special?

[Kath]

Don't know why its 'special' but it means the bike (or car or truck) has no carb.

[GOTWA]

Why is EFI so special?

You have to have it to trailer your bike to Sturgis.

[Kath]

ROFL! :laugh

[GOTWA]

Okay I'll play nice...

MP, my bet is you have EFI on your car.

EFI is a computer controlled fuel/air delivery system that replaces the carberatur. It basically injects the fuel directly into the cylander. Since the computer controls it, it automatically adjust the air/fuel mixture for the conditions. No tuning and jetting, etc.

[MusclePump]

Aw, but a carb is so much more fun. Keep computers off my bike!

[mark883]

EFI=no coughing, "carb farts", etc. Press Start button & go.
Very convenient (especially at higher altitudes), but very yuppie or RUB, you don't have to know the 'personality' of your bike to get it started, so anyone can play biker. Seems to take a bit of the Potato sound away too.

[DirtDevil]

Ok I found it...

"Harley will announce its 2006 model line near the end of July."

at the end of this article: http://motorcyclecruiser.com/newsandupdates/hd2q05/

Sturgis is 8/6 - 8/14, looks like we'll see the lineup earlier than that.

[MusclePump]

Are EFI vehicles more reliable/longer lasting?

[GOTWA]

Are EFI vehicles more reliable/longer lasting?

Reliable? Well that depends. Carbs screw up but are easy and cheap to fix. EFI goes tits on ya and you got issues. EFI is more effecient, but that does not necessarily mean better.

Longer lasting? Naw.

It's yet another attempt to modernize 100 year old technology.

[GOTWA]

Well, right on schedule I got an auto-email from the MoCo about Sturgis. Says you can demo ride the new '06 models. Doesn't mean they won't before hand but definately means it won't be after Aug. 6th.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/Events/05_sturgis_events_6.jsp?locale=en_US

[ed_in_az]

I spoke to an engineer at HD and he told me that rlgmer erogh fi mbvowzsoig vodmdpv mdfonm.

Oh, sure you say that now. Then when the new models are out and it's werondfuinmn dsfioj sadfn ueroieroisnf, well then what's that engineer going to say, huh???

nuther nana >>:banana

[sportsterrific]

Maybe it was a choo-choo train engineer that told me that.

[snaggletooth]

Fuel injection has no place on a motorcycle. There, I've said my piece!!

[LeavenworthJeff]

We had a similiar discussion over at v2-forum as well. Been told no EFI for Sportsters at this time. Must have some carbs left around or need to modify the frame or something to use EFI. Dynas will all have EFI. One rumor that I heard out of the factory was a new Dyna is coming with mini apes, blacked out treatment and solo seat. Also American Iron has said that the next issue will have a brand new Harley model (rumor a Dyna) in it and I expect the new issue to arrive sometime next week. Look for next week for them to release the new model information.

Jeff

[GOTWA]

Fuel injection has no place on a motorcycle. There, I've said my piece!!

Neither do have the people who own them. :laugh

[MusclePump]

Well, the '05 Road King's have EFI, that's actually the only bike I have seen that has EFI thus far.

[GOTWA]

Well, the '05 Road King's have EFI, that's actually the only bike I have seen that has EFI thus far.

Pretty much all of them are EFI now. Sporty's, one of the Dyna's, and I think that's it are the only naturally asperated rides offered. This year the Dyna will go away and soon so too will the Sporty.

HD is steeped in tradition and doesn't take change easily or quickly, that is why the Sporty retains a carb. IMHO anyway. Which again goes back to the girl's bike BS. If it really was a girl's bike, doncha think it would have been the first ride they EFI on?

But, it's the wave of the future. Like so many facets of society, bikers in general fail to monitor politics and government, so their rights are chipped away. The EPA will see to it that only EFI water cooled v-twins can be sold. :frownthre

[ted]

My vote is one big change................It will be called a 2006 Sportster instead of a 2005 Sportster. The bike is a success as it is. I think we have a few more years for real changes like fuel injection. Look how long they stuck with 4 speeds.... :roflblack :doh :banana :smoke
Ted

[debster]

Inside scoop is, they are going to produce all Sportsters in just one color.

PINK.

Then it will officially be a girl's bike and put an end to the debate.

:boxing


aaaaaaahahahahaha! love it! :roflblack

[Gone]

:clap :clap :clap :roflblack :roflblack :roflblack Inside scoop is, they are going to produce all Sportsters in just one color.

PINK.

Then it will officially be a girl's bike and put an end to the debate.

:boxing

[Gone]

Fuel injection has no place on a motorcycle. There, I've said my piece!!
I AGREE!!! :D

[thunderpaw]

I like pink. ;)
Beat me to it! :D

[thunderpaw]

EFI=no coughing, "carb farts", etc. Press Start button & go.
Very convenient (especially at higher altitudes), but very yuppie or RUB, you don't have to know the 'personality' of your bike to get it started, so anyone can play biker. Seems to take a bit of the Potato sound away too.Hmm...potatos...carb farts...is this cause and effect of some new diet?

Kim

[wickedsprint]

07 gonna bring the stringent emmissions, eventually harley will have to give up its air cooled engine..or suffer a huge loss in power to meet the new tier, kinda sad. 07 will be water cooled and shaft drive...kidding.

[albe]

Well, the '05 Road King's have EFI, that's actually the only bike I have seen that has EFI thus far.

My brother's got an 05' RK with carb.

I'm amazed at all the anti-EFI comments....absolutely NOTHING wrong with EFI on a bike...to each his own, I say.

If my sporty had an EFI option I'd have gotten it.

Less hassle is a GOOD thing in my opinion.

That said, I can understand those folks who are intimate with these carbs not wanting to go EFI.

Let the flames begin!

[tonydangerous]

I thought E-F-I was (Easy For Idiots) or maybe It's (Extra Foxy Injection) :D
The Extra Foxy Injection will Go great with the Pink. :laugh

[ZanexGt]

Mabey the will announce they shot the chinaman that fabbed the cheap Kevlar belts!

That's just hillarious!

:clap :clap

[_Q_]

Well, the '05 Road King's have EFI, that's actually the only bike I have seen that has EFI thus far.

Actually, you can get EFI on any Harley... EXCEPT the Sporty... in '05. My local stealer says "no EFI for the Sporty in '06"

[wickedsprint]

Fuel injection has no place on a motorcycle. There, I've said my piece!!


I partially agree, I would not have a harley or any easy to work on bike with fuelinjection, but on a sportbike with full bodywork, fuelinjectionis fine, I can replace an injector in 10 minutes, simple as pie, simple fuel rail with one injector per throttle body asoposed to diagrams springs jets and floats that like to leak and trap dirt and need adjustment to make full power anytime you change altitude, EFI keeps the mixture in check for altitude changes and different atmospheric conditions. Let's not forget how easy it is to tune, slap a computer on it while on the dyno and you can adjust more fuel here, more timing there, as oposed to doing a dyno run with a carbed bike, shutting it off, changing jets ( a BITCH on some 4 cylinder bikes or turbo applications) then getting it back up to temp and re-dynoeing.

[wickedsprint]

07 sporty gonna have EFI or they will do something very radical, 2007 starts the hard emissions laws for bikes, one of two ways to meet them, efi or water cooling or no power:)

[DM-SC]

We should be able to get the scoop next week since the Harley Dealer show is 7/22-7/25.

If they won't talk...we'll find a way to make them spill the beans... :spank :gun :boxing :headb

[Jason's Sporty]

I would put EFI on my bike in a second. its actually simplier than a carb only has a couple moving parts and saves tons of gas! Plus we can play pro tuner with a the dynojet kits just like those kids with the honda civics with 25" wheels and a 10" muffler do.

[_Q_]

...one of two ways to meet them, efi or water cooling or no power:)

Pardon me, but isn't that THREE ways? :p

[Moved On]

I don't think that I've heard this one yet... scary thought but what if...
The 2006 Sportster will be that last year for the XL model line.

Gazza

[MusclePump]

I don't think that I've heard this one yet... scary thought but what if...
The 2006 Sportster will be that last year for the XL model line.

Gazza

I just can't forsee that.

[jimmymac]

Who cares if it's fuel injected or not. Why classify people as RUBS or yuppies or whatever based upon something as silly as fuel delivery. There are many examples of this, fuel injection being just one.

I ride my bike to work almost everyday, rain or shine. If it had fuel injection would that somehow diminish my experience in your eyes?

[xena]

I don't think that I've heard this one yet... scary thought but what if...
The 2006 Sportster will be that last year for the XL model line.

Gazza

I don't see that happening either. The model has survived all these years for a reason.

[thunderpaw]

Fuel Injection, to me, is a plus. Just, PLEASE, make it a closed-loop system! The BT system, IMHO, bites...BIG TIME! I am not afraid of water cooling...it's gonna come. Keep the sensations of the 45 degree v-twin...visceral and sonic. Most of us will adapt, if need be.
OTOH...we can all probably rebuild our bikes until the day we die...a BIG plus in Harley's favor!
I was hoping that Yellow Pearl was going to be a one-year color. Not so. It is going to be available (again) on the 1200R and 883C.

Kim

[stevo]

I can tune a carb a lot better than most.....


But I'd have EFI on my sportry in a flash...


It's ALL plusses and NO minuses.....


Carbs are dinosaurs...and how many of you that don't want EFI swear by Syn oil???

[Albie1200]

I'm fine with EFI as long as they put the overlooked fuel gauge on them as well. You run out of gas on a carb'd bike=thumb your way to the nearest gas station and grab a half of gallon and your on your way. Run out on your EFI'd bike and call the tow truck to take the bike to the shop to have the injectors reprimed. At least that's how I understand it. $1.00 for some gas or a couple of hundred at the stealership, make you think.

[stevo]

You don't need to reprime injectors on a petrol injected vehicle......ONLY a diesel..


It's actually easier with FI as there's a fuel pump

[Sandman]

Who cares if it's fuel injected or not. Why classify people as RUBS or yuppies or whatever based upon something as silly as fuel delivery. There are many examples of this, fuel injection being just one.

I ride my bike to work almost everyday, rain or shine. If it had fuel injection would that somehow diminish my experience in your eyes?


I agree. I love my carb (now that it's tuned), but if my bike had EFI I would still ride it regardless what someone else though of it. To be honest, the carb was a bitch to get tuned right, and if the EFI would've eliminated that then it is worth it to me.

[thunderpaw]

Actually, EFI is a lot more straight forward than a carb. Took me learning the systems to realize that...and I fought for many a year. Now it's my system of preference...even doing my own wrenching. With EFI, either the component passes the function test, or it doesn't. There is no middle ground. A carb, by design, is no more than a compromise. Get it as close as you can, then ride. EFI can be dialed in precisely. A closed loop system self adjusts. Free-flow air filter? Low restriction pipes? No problem. The system adjusts to the new parameters automatically.

Kim

[GOTWA]

Who cares if it's fuel injected or not. Why classify people as RUBS or yuppies or whatever based upon something as silly as fuel delivery. There are many examples of this, fuel injection being just one.

I ride my bike to work almost everyday, rain or shine. If it had fuel injection would that somehow diminish my experience in your eyes?
Let me clarify Jimmy,

I was just tossing out a bit of sarcasm. You'll notice I also went on to have an intelligent dialogue about EFI with MP.

I'm not against EFI and I'm no a mechanical purist. Was just presenting the two sides of the same coin.