Scuttlebutt has the Harley Davidson 2006 model announcement taking place at a dealer's meeting in Colorado on Saturday, July 30th. It is also believed that when the announcement is being made at the dealer's meeting, a 2006 model link will be placed on the MoCo's web site.

My 2¢,
JB

That is what my dealer said.

Lookin' forward to see the new lineup, EPA changes, etc....can't wait!

Yep. Dealers and select managers have been called to Colorado for this weekend. My dealer had to cancel a sale on account of the meeting. They didn't say it was the new model roll out but doesn't take a genius.

Rumours are it will be a new model launch for a Dyna sized super sport, possibly a smaller v-rod type.

Rumours are it will be a new model launch for a Dyna sized super sport, possibly a smaller v-rod type.


I heard a cafe racer from either the V-Rod or Sportster. I look for more from the V-Rod Cafe racer.

The summer dealer meeting is today and tomorrow in Denver. Cats should be out of bags sometime today. . .

Here is the link.

http://www.h-dsn.com/genbus/calendar.jsp


Lefty :banadevi

I heard a cafe racer from either the V-Rod or Sportster. I look for more from the V-Rod Cafe racer.
Nah. Not this year, if ever. I'm betting there won't be much of anything to crow about this year. If anything, I think the next thing (this year or another) will be a V-Rod themed bagger. Likely with a bigger engine.

I wonder if they were to fuel inject the sporty how much difference in hp there would be.

I wonder if they were to fuel inject the sporty how much difference in hp there would be.
None.

EFI isn't so much about horsepower as convenience and efficiency. Ever see John Force run EFI?

Besides that, the MoCo would probably have to keep the ICM codes so frickin' restricted because of the tree huggers that you wouldn't get much out of it anyway. That does beg the question of how the new BT guy's are finding ponies. Never thought about that until now...

THey go to the steeler and pay big bucks for the ECM flash.

None.

EFI isn't so much about horsepower as convenience and efficiency. Ever see John Force run EFI?

Besides that, the MoCo would probably have to keep the ICM codes so frickin' restricted because of the tree huggers that you wouldn't get much out of it anyway. That does beg the question of how the new BT guy's are finding ponies. Never thought about that until now...

I gotta assume you'd see more even power accross the band.

I heard the '06's will be basically unchanged nothing big like fat tires or HUGE motors yet. :(

I gotta assume you'd see more even power accross the band.
Certainly could be, I'm no expert. But then you lose the flexibility of power delivery where you choose. Computer tells you what you want.

I can't wait to see what's new from Buell. They are talking about a dual purpose bike. On there web page it has a teaser showing riding from street to dirt. They have July 23 as the day for release.

Nah. Not this year, if ever. I'm betting there won't be much of anything to crow about this year. If anything, I think the next thing (this year or another) will be a V-Rod themed bagger. Likely with a bigger engine.

EPA stats shows they have a 2450cc VR engine in testing but I doubt we'll see it for '06.
131hp!

2006 Screaming Eagle V-Rod - 1250cc engine - 240 rear tire!

New Buell Adventure Sport bike - Ulysses XB12X

Probably still no cat's on non-Cali bikes (my 2006 VRSCR doesn't have one).

EFI isn't so much about horsepower as convenience and efficiency. Ever see John Force run EFI?

Comparing a fuel dragster to a production Harley is a stretch of the imagination. Fuel cars do use injection. But it's mechanical not electric. It also pumps a gallon or two a second into the blown Hemis. (BTW, Hemis RULE!)

While today's carbs are pretty fine instruments, EFI, when properly tuned, is the cat's meow. It can provide perfectly smooth fuel delivery. No acclerator pump squirts, no needles to shim or jets to change. Pro Stockers would love it. So would the NASCAR crowd. But it's not legal for cost purposes, from what I have read.

There isn't a racer worth his tires that wouldn't LOVE to have a nice tunable EFI. But the "tunable" part is what production systems lack.

Comparing a fuel dragster to a production Harley is a stretch of the imagination. Fuel cars do use injection. But it's mechanical not electric. It also pumps a gallon or two a second into the blown Hemis. (BTW, Hemis RULE!)

While today's carbs are pretty fine instruments, EFI, when properly tuned, is the cat's meow. It can provide perfectly smooth fuel delivery. No acclerator pump squirts, no needles to shim or jets to change. Pro Stockers would love it. So would the NASCAR crowd. But it's not legal for cost purposes, from what I have read.

There isn't a racer worth his tires that wouldn't LOVE to have a nice tunable EFI. But the "tunable" part is what production systems lack.

Yessir, was a stretch to make a point I reckon.

Like I said, I'm no expert but you keyed into the point I was trying to make and that is tune-ability. I know jack shit about modern vehicle computers beyond them pissing me off on my Bronco. At least with mechanics I can figure it out, understand it, work with it.

But I wasn't really trying to make a comparison of race bikes to street bikes. I did in a roundabout way but it wasn't my meaning. Just meant for us average Joes, I don't see any HP gain through stock EFI.

Yessir, was a stretch to make a point I reckon.

Like I said, I'm no expert but you keyed into the point I was trying to make and that is tune-ability. I know jack shit about modern vehicle computers beyond them pissing me off on my Bronco. At least with mechanics I can figure it out, understand it, work with it.

But I wasn't really trying to make a comparison of race bikes to street bikes. I did in a roundabout way but it wasn't my meaning. Just meant for us average Joes, I don't see any HP gain through stock EFI.


Easy as pie dude, you plug your computer into the bike and display your fuel maps with any of the aftermarket setups like power commander..etc, compare to dyno sheet and add fuel and timing where ya want it, no more dickin around with jets and whatnot and then seeing if it worked. EFI also compensates for altitude and weather changes better. Basically like having a jet kit free, someone online has a fuel map you wanna try?, they send it to you and you try it..no waiting or taking the bike apart.

EFI is the way to go for the street. There's no question as to it being much more efficient than a carb, even in high output applications.

As has already been stated, it's a lot simpler to change the fuel map than it is to rejet a carb. Also, the range of conditions that EFI can handle are far wider than a carb would ever be able to do.

One has to look no farther than the auto industry to see the future of motorcycle fuel systems.

My Brother and I remapped his Low Rider with a Power Commander setup. Very easy to do.