Tired of waiting for the damn XR1200 already. Decided I'd rather have an XLCR now with all the goodies the XR1200 "prototype/ Euro model/ US teaser" has.

I have an XLCR and I have seen the new XR1200 in the flesh

XLCR is a far better looking bike and given some of the kits available on the aftermarket to convert evo sporties to look like XLCR's the factory has made a right pigs ear out of the XR1200

Parked alongside a XR750 the XR1200 looks like a tarts hand bag

xr1200 nice technology but, i would be all over a sportster sport built on that platform with standard sportster stylin

xr1200 nice technology but, i would be all over a sportster sport built on that platform with standard sportster stylin

I'd definitely go for that too. I personally think the Sportster should have evolved into that by now anyway, but...........

I had just got to looking at the Sundance super XRCR(is there a smilie with a woody?), and since I've always wanted an XLCR, I thought it would be cool to have them do a modern XLCR for a US!! release. Yeah, maybe sales wouldn't be all that great, but what a cool bike, and hey, it's retro. Isn't that supposed to be the hot ticket?

Scroll down this link and there are some cool XR1200/XLCR concepts.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/xl1200/archives/cat_50010592.html

As long as they don't overprice it, I'll likely get an XR1200. The more I see of them, the more I like. I'm not thrilled about the rubbermount engine, but it's not a deal breaker, and I'll always have my '03.

They look like big fun for sure! ;)
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/twolaneblacktop/xr1200.jpg

Scroll down this link and there are some cool XR1200/XLCR concepts.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/xl1200/archives/cat_50010592.html



I screen-capped one and it looks pretty damn good.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e80/quebeker/untitled-3.jpg

Nope. For some reason that just doesn't do it for me. Need the designers to work on this one. More modern without looking like a re-dressed XR1200. Tall fairing height seems wrong too.

Does the revised motor look weird to others, or is it just me?

The original XLCR looks good because it is relatively compact. The new 1200 probably performs very well, but they need to make it look less 'heavy' and tall.

The "VR" with the fairing on the japanese site was the best looking of the lot.

If I were building a Evo (or whatever you call the new ones) cafe, I'd use the Storz pieces, with a 2 into 1.

I do think there is a sport bike market between Buell's all out radical stuff and an stock XL... Something that at least looks like it wasn't designed by a computer.

I do think there is a sport bike market between Buell's all out radical stuff and an stock XL... Something that at least looks like it wasn't designed by a computer.



Excellent point. That's what I've been thinking.

I think HD screwed the pooch with the 50th anniversary of the sporty.

They could have really made a splash.

They could have had 3-4 retro bikes in limited editions

1. XLCH - peanut tank, stripped lean and mean
2. XLH - something with hard bags, windshield and passing lamps like you saw some of the late 50s models.
3. XR1200 - pretty close to what they're proposing
4. XLCR - the XR1200 chassis, cafe fairing etc

Instead we got the damn XL50 ugh.

I think HD screwed the pooch with the 50th anniversary of the sporty.

They could have really made a splash.

They could have had 3-4 retro bikes in limited editions

1. XLCH - peanut tank, stripped lean and mean
2. XLH - something with hard bags, windshield and passing lamps like you saw some of the late 50s models.
3. XR1200 - pretty close to what they're proposing
4. XLCR - the XR1200 chassis, cafe fairing etc

Instead we got the damn XL50 ugh.


I agree completely Kev. For the 50th anniv they put out badges. Nothing that matches it's history.

I think HD screwed the pooch with the 50th anniversary of the sporty.

They could have really made a splash.

They could have had 3-4 retro bikes in limited editions

1. XLCH - peanut tank, stripped lean and mean
2. XLH - something with hard bags, windshield and passing lamps like you saw some of the late 50s models.
3. XR1200 - pretty close to what they're proposing
4. XLCR - the XR1200 chassis, cafe fairing etc

Instead we got the damn XL50 ugh.

Definately hit that one on the nose, Kev. Total disappointment. #1 or #2 would have really been the way to go. Actually, a Nightster with 18's and real suspension travel would have been a great XLCH 50th retro model bike. I'd also be really happy with #2 (with a 6 spd. OD) . I guess 50 wasn't that big of deal to them. They'd rather celebrate every fifth year of the Company like it's some major deal (of course, back in the early '80's, it was!) Maybe for the 75th or 100th Sportster anniversary we'll get more than tank stickers.

Back on the XLCR topic, what about taking the look and making it more of a sport-tourer? Granted, it wouldn't be a "cafe racer", but it would make a comfy, long-haul, Sportster, as you can make a bigger tank and fairing work. A modern rendition (complete with removable bags, and a 6 spd or tall 5th) might actually be pretty cool. That's just where I'm at now, with Guzzis,(intrigued, but have never ridden one) Beemers (excellent package but,a bit bland, too utilitarian) and Dynas (still a strong possibility, not crazy about the riding positions, price, and damn they weigh a lot), as my other options for wanting a long-haul bike (without modifying my current Sportster).

with Guzzis,(intrigued, but have never ridden one)


had a guzzi once

it was the most unrealiable piece of junk I have ever owned

have friends that have them and 20 years later they are still unreliable and suffer from variable quality control and the company tends to lurch from one economic crisis to another

same yourself a lot a grief, buy a BMW or a Ducati if you want to go european

Back on the XLCR topic, what about taking the look and making it more of a sport-tourer? Granted, it wouldn't be a "cafe racer", but it would make a comfy, long-haul, Sportster, as you can make a bigger tank and fairing work. A modern rendition (complete with removable bags, and a 6 spd or tall 5th) might actually be pretty cool. That's just where I'm at now, with Guzzis,(intrigued, but have never ridden one) Beemers (excellent package but,a bit bland, too utilitarian) and Dynas (still a strong possibility, not crazy about the riding positions, price, and damn they weigh a lot), as my other options for wanting a long-haul bike (without modifying my current Sportster).

Do yourself a favor and try a Guzzi.

They're the red-headed bastard step-child of a Harley and a BMW.

Still have the visceral nature of the pushrod v-twin with some grunt.

But they have brembo brakes, shaft drive and a higher-revving V-twin....

Not bland at all.

had a guzzi once

it was the most unrealiable piece of junk I have ever owned

have friends that have them and 20 years later they are still unreliable and suffer from variable quality control and the company tends to lurch from one economic crisis to another

same yourself a lot a grief, buy a BMW or a Ducati if you want to go european

Gimmie an F'n break. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Just like people had a bad harley 20 years ago and someone has a single problem with a new one and everyone screams unrealiable - guess what - I've had WAY more problems with my BMWs than I've ever had with my Harleys OR MY GUZZIS!

Hell, I like BMWs, but they seem to be screwing the pooch a lot lately.

And though a Ducati will join our fleet in the future, they don't have half the reputation for reliability that Guzzi has!