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astre489
22nd May 2012, 03:40
Calgary is bringing in the sound meters in june, 96dB is the limit, They are sending warnings for first 2 weeks, then its a $200 fine. I just have stock exhaust now but i ordered a lsr pipe. Does anyone know what a stock sporster registers on a decibel meter. I am probably going to have some fun, im gonna sit underneath the meter with an air horn and get every cop, bus and city vehicle i can.
CanuckSporty
22nd May 2012, 12:36
I doubt whatever meter they use will be left unattended.
Lenster
22nd May 2012, 13:36
Could be a very expensive summer.......
cotnballs
22nd May 2012, 13:41
Here in Colorado they started noise restrictions on off road vehicles like ATVs and Dirt bikes (Cali hippies complaining). They loaned the meters to a local riding club to go around to dealers and test bikes for people to know where they were at. They also did a test periods at trail heads etc to give people a look into what they need done without issuing tickets. Maybe you should talk to your local PD and see if you can set something up like that to help out other bikers.
NI-STR
22nd May 2012, 13:47
Just so ya' know. The cops will be gung ho for the first while. But things will ease up.
The trick is to stay away from popular cruise spots for the first while (if your into that) and don't be trying to impress peeps with that new pipe if you are in that vicinity.
We had a couple "sound traps" last year where they pulled over every bike that came down that particular road. But again, that was on the cruise route.
I think the law is there to use when certain peeps are out there being an a-holes.
I have "illegal" pipes and haven't had a problem. But I don't frequent these spots and just keep it cool around the cops. The police have more important things to do most of the time and lots of them don't like the law.
So, if you and couple of your buddies are having a burn out contest and someone calls the cops. They will have something else to get you on even though the smoke has cleared and your just sitting there b.s.ing.
It's there, (the law) for the a-holes that don't give a shit about anyone else.
CanuckSporty
25th May 2012, 15:09
Here in Colorado they started noise restrictions on off road vehicles like ATVs and Dirt bikes (Cali hippies complaining). They loaned the meters to a local riding club to go around to dealers and test bikes for people to know where they were at. They also did a test periods at trail heads etc to give people a look into what they need done without issuing tickets. Maybe you should talk to your local PD and see if you can set something up like that to help out other bikers.
Looks like they are doing that:
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/calgary/Calgary%20drivers%20invited%20to%20take%20part%20i n%20noise%20level%20test/6674973/story.html
Calgarians, start your engines.
The city’s animal and bylaw services department is holding two public open houses in the next week to try out a noise snare prior to its deployment on Calgary streets.
From 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, members of the public can find out how loud their vehicles are by cruising the city’s emergency vehicle track at 5811 23rd Ave. S.E. in their cars, trucks, SUVs, minivans and motorcycles.
Another session will be held on Wednesday from 4 to 8 p.m.
The excessive vehicle noise provision was added to the traffic bylaw last year and sets the limit at 96 decibels.
At that level or higher, a $200 fine can be assessed.
The noise snare records video and audio of vehicles as they pass by. An on-board noise meter gives a reading of the volume level of the sounds emanating from vehicles, and the owner of those that reach or exceed 96 decibels will be contacted by a bylaw officer.
Starting May 31, the noise snare will be on city streets. Bylaw officers will give out warnings for the first month.
1iron1
25th May 2012, 15:28
Stock exhaust is up to 88 db from moco. That gives them "street legal" compliance.
CanuckSporty
25th May 2012, 15:38
Stock exhaust is up to 88 db from moco. That gives them "street legal" compliance.
I have the Screaming Eagle SP slip ons, and they are listed as "Street Legal in 48 States". I don't know the exact db but I'd imagine they are under 96.
gunterjaeger
25th May 2012, 15:49
A snare.....is exactly what it is.
astre489
25th May 2012, 22:20
88 db? that must be at idle, i think im gonna go try out there open house and do a 5 grand run, they only let you accelerate from 30km to 50, but i should still be in first
Lenster
27th May 2012, 00:21
A snare.....is exactly what it is.
It's like a radar trap only for sound instead of speed.
My brother and I went down and tested our bikes today. We accelerated up to 50 KPH (30 MPH) which for me I had just changed to second gear as I went by the "snare".
My bike was rated at 108 decibels and my brother's at 96 decibels. They give you a ticket for anything 96 and over :doh
astre489
27th May 2012, 00:31
what do you guys have for exhaust? were you wide open throttle?
flashedwards
27th May 2012, 00:40
A couple of years ago (when I had money to spare) I bought on of these sound meters and checked my Nightster with various slip-on muffs. Nothing that I had on would be considered "legal". I posted some of the results but that was a long time ago and I can't find them now. Best advice..be careful and don't make yourself obvious.
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rejeanprimeau
27th May 2012, 01:15
Easy to beat up in court. Just bring your OEM exhaust and show the 88 DB marking. The judge will have resonnable doubt. The best advice is not to get in their trap as cited by Ni-Str.
Lenster
27th May 2012, 02:49
what do you guys have for exhaust? were you wide open throttle?
No, we weren't WFO - it's not like it was a drag race and we only went up to 50K.
I have the RB Racing LSR 2:1 and my brother's Fat Boy has a Supertrapp 2:1.
They are trying to get sound bi-laws in a couple towns here in Ontario. Difference is that here they nail you at 92db. To give you an idea, I tested a buddies brand new Fatboy Lo with the oem exhaust and it tested at 91db. So basically anything other than stock will get you a $150 ticket, that's the low end, I think it goes up from there.
NI-STR
27th May 2012, 05:04
It's like a radar trap only for sound instead of speed.
My brother and I went down and tested our bikes today. We accelerated up to 50 KPH (30 MPH) which for me I had just changed to second gear as I went by the "snare".
My bike was rated at 108 decibels and my brother's at 96 decibels. They give you a ticket for anything 96 and over :doh
Congrats Len. I pulled off 105 with my Sideshots @ 2000rpm. You got me beat:p
I figured the LSR would be way over the limit. I imagine my Bobcat wouldn't pass either.
CanuckSporty
27th May 2012, 19:03
http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/05/26/calgary-brings-the-noise-for-enforcement-test
More than half the vehicles measured Saturday in a dry run of the city’s new Noise Snare would have driven away with tickets.
Out of 205 Harleys, sportbikes, trucks and cars that voluntarily tested at the Emergency Vehicle Training Track, 108 were at or above the 96 decibel limit, which would result in a $200 fine once the snares go live July 1.
Noise enforcement begins June 1, but only warnings will be issued for the first month.
The loudest motorbike tested Saturday was an eardrum rupturing 122 decibels, while the quietest measured 78 decibels.
Of the vehicles that measured over the limit, 90 were motorbikes, 15 were cars and three were trucks.
Among the loudest bikes were Floyd and Anne Desrosier’s 800CC Suzuki C50s, which measured 108 and 101 decibels respectively.
“For (my) bike no, for (Anne’s) bike, yes I am,” said Floyd when asked if he was surprised how loud they registered.
“I expected to be in the mid-90s.”
An avid rider for more 40 years, Floyd said in his mind loud bikes are safer.
“When we’re out there, (noise) is a good warning for cars,” he said.
“Its nice to let people know I’m coming before they see me.”
But not all riders adhere to that philosophy.
Cameron Gillies measured exactly 96 decibels on his Buell XB 12SS — which would earn him a $200 ticket — and said more noise doesn’t mean more safety.
“Loud pipes have never saved anybody’s life, that’s a myth,” he said.
“And statistically, actually, there’s evidence that loud pipes actually increase your risk of injury or death.”
Most vehicles operate under 96 decibels even at full throttle, said Ald. John Mar, whose downtown ward is the epicentre for many of the noise complaints involving vehicles — mostly bikes with open pipes.
“I would say 99% of people have absolutely no idea how loud their vehicle is or what 96 decibels sounds like,” said Mar.
“A normal car is about 60 to 70 decibels and a bus is about 80 decibels.
“Ninety-six decibels is actually four times louder than a car.”
Another free testing session will be held Wednesday from 4 to 8 p.m. at 5811 23 Ave. S.E.
dave.dormer@sunmedia.ca
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Noise snare numbers:
• 205 vehicles tested
• 108 at or above 96 decibels
• Loudest motorcycle: 122dB
• Quietest motorcycle: 78dB
• Loudest car: 108dB
• Quietest car: 78dB
• Loudest truck: 103dB
• Quietest truck: 85dB
Sound equivalents:
70dB = a hairdryer
80dB = someone shouting at you from one metre away
95dB = a chainsaw running one metre away
105dB = max volume of most MP3 players
125dB = volume of a firecracker exploding
130dB = maximum volume human ear can withstand
140dB = jet engine at takeoff
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