Hellrazor Turbo Kit Sales

[JasonSarratt]

Stage 1 Hellrazor Turbo Kit for rubber mount efi xl883 and xl1200, Retail $3800 (free shipping in the US)

Included:
Turbo Kit with ceramic coated hot side (Your choice of black or silver)
Hardware , fittings and hoses
K&N filter
Custom Injectors (Boost application units, not OEM)
Tuner and Mapping/Software (your choice of Super Tuner or Power Vision)
Warranty against manufacturer defects for 1year, pro rated after that

Options and Accessories:
PV wideband auto tune HD kit $385
Data log Equipment Deposit $400 (refunded when equipment it returned)
Data log Tuning Services to Maximize Turbo Performance
Performance Clutch Spring $25
14psi Wastegate Actuator $15 (warrantied only if we tune it for you)
Water Injection System $410

Another new option we are putting out for those who really want to maximize their XL turbo system is a Power Commander V PTI. This system allows you too really fine tune the boosted sections of your system. We use the regular ECU with our programming to keep the bike clean and safe running but the PCV then takes over and adds extra fuel and removes spark for each pound of boost. This unit also allows us the ability to have a “launch controller” that will limit your RPM prelaunch with the clutch in. This system can also be great with a manual boost controller so you can raise and lower your boost levels as desired… Low boost in town and Higher boost at the track

We also offer a XLF discount of 10% off total invoice.

If you already have a tuner, we can discount the kits cost and remove the tuner hardware which will lower the cost by $400, providing you are using a tuner we support.

Custom touches like altered downpipes and plenum covers are a no charge in most cases as we have to hand make each kit from scratch anyway. It generally takes 2 to 3 weeks to build and ship a kit due to having many parts custom made by other suppliers and ceramic coating times.

Please Email with any questions: Hellcatcustoms@gmail.com

[Cosmo Kramer]

Very cool Jason. You might want to also list what sportster years you are currently supporting with these kits for those who may not know. ;)

[AustinXL]

I for one can endorse both the service of Hellcat and this product. My bike runs like crazy at WOT now, glad I switched back to mids! I have had a few brain-dead caused by me issues, Jason was always available on the phone to talk me through anything I wasnt sure about.

[Rog48]

Wish I could get one now.....its gonna have to wait till this winter. Do you have a military version? :)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-APD8uW6FJZg/T1u9B_orpJI/AAAAAAABNws/piLli3vNvUo/s1024/IMAG0261.jpg

[JasonSarratt]

Wish I could get one now.....its gonna have to wait till this winter. Do you have a military version? :)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-APD8uW6FJZg/T1u9B_orpJI/AAAAAAABNws/piLli3vNvUo/s1024/IMAG0261.jpg

I am going to release a cosmically special kit that each will be numbered specifically for armed forces folks....one is being developed as we speak BUT I will only sell that version in that color to soldiers who can provide unit info and proof of service... This will be a "special forces turbo" to say thanks to men and women who've made it possible for me to do what I do... No extra cost, just a personal special touch to honor them and let them stand out in the turbo mafia ranks

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[JasonSarratt]

Very cool Jason. You might want to also list what sportster years you are currently supporting with these kits for those who may not know. ;)

Very good suggestion... Will alter the original posting asap

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[Rico 05R]

I am going to release a cosmically special kit that each will be numbered specifically for armed forces folks....one is being developed as we speak BUT I will only sell that version in that color to soldiers who can provide unit info and proof of service... This will be a "special forces turbo" to say thanks to men and women who've made it possible for me to do what I do... No extra cost, just a personal special touch to honor them and let them stand out in the turbo mafia ranks


Rep for that. Well damn, the machine says I have to spread some more rep around first. :doh

[Rog48]

I am going to release a cosmically special kit that each will be numbered specifically for armed forces folks....one is being developed as we speak BUT I will only sell that version in that color to soldiers who can provide unit info and proof of service... This will be a "special forces turbo" to say thanks to men and women who've made it possible for me to do what I do... No extra cost, just a personal special touch to honor them and let them stand out in the turbo mafia ranks

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Very cool of you to do. Is that only available to active duty or are vets included?

[JasonSarratt]

Very cool of you to do. Is that only available to active duty or are vets included?

Anyone who as served not just active duty... If you did time in the service you qualify...

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[norseXL]

Wish I could get one now.....its gonna have to wait till this winter. Do you have a military version? :)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-APD8uW6FJZg/T1u9B_orpJI/AAAAAAABNws/piLli3vNvUo/s1024/IMAG0261.jpg


With an after-burner maybe for Air Force :D

Oh, cool bike by the way.

[JasonSarratt]

With the look of his bike I'm thinking it needs a oil injector in the downpipe to get that WWII smoke trial on demand:)

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[norseXL]

With the look of his bike I'm thinking it needs a oil injector in the downpipe to get that WWII smoke trial on demand:)

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:laugh Yeah, we had that on the older tanks when I was in the army, they put out a lot of smoke for shure.

[Rog48]

Anyone who as served not just active duty... If you did time in the service you qualify...

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Now Im really stoked........Id did my hitch in (you guessed it) the Air Force 82-86.

[JasonSarratt]

Very cool! The military kit will be coated with a greyish green ceramic with black drilled Shields and a drilled down pipe finisher to appear more weapon like. The plenum covers with get airbrushed with a stencil of the unit they were proud to serve in and will all be numbered.... 001 has already been spoken for by a current soldier over in the sand now.

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[AustinXL]

Very cool! The military kit will be coated with a greyish green ceramic with black drilled Shields and a drilled down pipe finisher to appear more weapon like. The plenum covers with get airbrushed with a stencil of the unit they were proud to serve in and will all be numbered.... 001 has already been spoken for by a current soldier over in the sand now.

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Thats freakin' awesome.

[Rog48]

Would love to see some pics. Might have to do this before winter :-)

[astre489]

does anyone have this kit installed. i would love to see some dyno charts and pics

[Turbo Sporty 48]

does anyone have this kit installed. i would love to see some dyno charts and pics
I have a Hellcat Customs turbo.
Went to Phoenix to get it installed.
Could not be happier.
Let me try to find the build and post it for you.
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=1549644
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=1582014
First one is the build, the second is a review.
Turbo is good.

[JasonSarratt]

Somewhere here on xlf there is a chart showing 5psi with the provided "safe starting tune" provided with the kit before tuning making 99hp.

Jason Sarratt
2401 SC-PBG 1350cc
www.hellcat-customs.com

[AustinXL]

does anyone have this kit installed. i would love to see some dyno charts and pics

Ask and ye shall receive! I have one of the earliest versions of the kit, there have been improvements made since I installed my kit, though I have no complaints at all about my kit or Hellcat, very pleased with both.

Here is a pic installed:

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy4/austinvanscoy/Turbo%20Install/IMG_3073-1.jpg


Here is a dyno sheet, this is from the day after install, note the AFR is nowhere near correct, this is with the out of the box super-safe AFR and spark advance tables. 97 HP on an otherwise bone stock motor with safe tune isnt too shabby.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy4/austinvanscoy/Turbo%20Install/turboonly.jpg


Recently I installed a slightly higher lift set of cams, between being busy at work, busy at home, and below 30 weather I only have maybe 25-30 miles on them. Once I finish re-tuning for the new cams I will be posting a new dyno sheet. Seat of the pants dyno tells me a good amount of power was gained. :D

[JasonSarratt]

Austin once your cam results are in and I compare things with my can results, down the road the cams may be part a the whole mess as a standard.

Jason Sarratt
2401 SC-PBG 1350cc
www.hellcat-customs.com

[Turbo Sporty 48]

Recently I installed a slightly higher lift set of cams, between being busy at work, busy at home, and below 30 weather I only have maybe 25-30 miles on them. Once I finish re-tuning for the new cams I will be posting a new dyno sheet. Seat of the pants dyno tells me a good amount of power was gained. :D

What cams did you go with?

[astre489]

will this kit work with forward controls?

[AustinXL]

will this kit work with forward controls?

Yes it will but it makes it harder to hold on! :D


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[Turbo Sporty 48]

will this kit work with forward controls?
This kit will not interfere with forward controls at all, have forward controls on my 48, the pipe clears, no problem with heat from the turbo and I do not even feel the air filter.

Yes it will but it makes it harder to hold on! :D

AustinXL has a good point.
The forward controls are good for laid back cruising.
A turbo just adds so much more fun to the situation, one might want to sit up and take notice.

[Crosshairs]

Another happy turbo customer checking in.....

[JasonSarratt]

What cams did you go with?

Austin is playing with SE 551's I'm going with hammer 560's

Jason Sarratt
2401 SC-PBG 1350cc
www.hellcat-customs.com

[hairy]

hey jason i emailed you about a quote today, what do you think ?

[AustinXL]

Austin is playing with SE 551's I'm going with hammer 560's

Jason Sarratt
2401 SC-PBG 1350cc
www.hellcat-customs.com

Oops, must have missed this, sorry 48! Yeah, as Jason said, I've got the .551s. No complaints so far.


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[rottenralph]

Jason, why do you believe the Hammer 560 cam to be better for the turbo setup?

[Turbo Sporty 48]

Jason, why do you believe the Hammer 560 cam to be better for the turbo setup?
This is the great question Ralph. Have been asking it over and over to myself.
As little as I know but as much as I have read from Aaron and Hammer Performance and having purchased a Hellcat Customs
turbo, this is my guess.
It has to do with the whole package. So it really depends.
A complete performance package includes, compression, intake/exhaust valve size ratio, cams, turbo, fueling, timing, tuning and I am surely overlooking something like piston shape or intended use.
The elusive search for the holy grail of horsepower is the quest.
We all just hope to get more creamy smooth horsepower that knocks our socks off.
That is why we are here, besides showing others how smart we are, handsome we look and of course how good our bikes are, right?

[JasonSarratt]

Every turbo setup is different in design etc... on systems with turbo that are a bit undersized or have restrictive plumbing you often see really high tq figures outta the gate at low rpm and then the hp tends to be limited up top... I chose long ago to run a slightly oversized turbo so that low rpm would feel stock and boost would keep building power as you went up in rpm and you wouldn't bottle neck the exhaust or boot strap the turbo.... after chatting with Garrett, an Audi race tech, and some other turbo guru types I compared what I have seen in my own with their expert point a view and believe our setup is set up perfect to handle running NA cams with overlap and making power. We haven't seen inverted pressure ratios in our setup so as long as the intake carries more pressure than the exhaust then we should see the same kinds gain NA guys do with these cams.

...Now the trick... my bike will only run the exhaust side cams...reason is at the moment we are moving twice as much volume through the intake but the baby exhaust valve acts as a slight restriction with the factory cam. That valve/cam/port is simply not designed to move twist the volume unaltered. So first I'm gonna play with a cam...once I have what I wanna see then I'll change heads...heads that have larger exhaust valves. It's a progression I log, study and dissect to learn the how's and why's...then when I understand the how and why I consult others who I consider experts to verify my findings and funky ideas...once those I personal consider to be experts support my thoughts I put the info in the turbo bible.

The only way to learn is to do...but doing requires either lots a money and mistakes or lots of round table meetings and spitballing with people who are brilliant. I never just come up with an idea or theory based on personal experience and dive in. I gather full understanding of what I did...then theorize on how to take the next step, then try to shoot holes in my own ideas....once the idea is bullet proof then I consult people beyond me. When they say, "yup your right, do that, it took us years a study to arrive there" only then do I take the step. Once steps are taken and things work out exactly as planned then I'm willing to shoot my mouth off and say this is my new plan...

Kinda unfair to the world and it takes a lot of time to develop ideas but when I finally push info out as new ideas they aren't wild ideas they are things that are just new to the design but have proven themselves somewhere already...So there is a huge amount of thought and effort and huge amount of info withholding...

How do I know these things and ideas work? Garrett says it's spot on, they make turbos, my Audi turbo racer say it's what they do for racers overseas, Shortblock Charlie does similar things for snowmobile racing w/ turbos...and above all other things....study WWII aircraft. Nothing I've done hasn't already been done on those planes. Study the past to grow the future. Someone already did every new idea we discuss on XLF, you just need to learn to apply something from another study to what's in your garage.

It's really that simple.

I learned from the best Japanese designers...take a great proven idea, learn it then correct the lil issues the early idea had...

Jason Sarratt
2401 SC-PBG 1350cc
www.hellcat-customs.com

[rottenralph]

Good luck on your current quest. I suspect in the end you will come up with a perfect Cam combo for your needs. From the end user perspective, it is hard to run stock cams and feel as if you are maximizing your combo and that is why I went with 551's. If you ever figure out what the perfect cam set is for our bikes I will commit to buying a set. I realize my turbo is different but I commit just the same.

[JasonSarratt]

Good luck on your current quest. I suspect in the end you will come up with a perfect Cam combo for your needs. From the end user perspective, it is hard to run stock cams and feel as if you are maximizing your combo and that is why I went with 551's. If you ever figure out what the perfect cam set is for our bikes I will commit to buying a set. I realize my turbo is different but I commit just the same.

Variable vane turbos I think later will be the way to go, so in a sense yer a step ahead... what cams will be best is gonna be based not on lift numbers or duration but the entire package... the manifolds, intake and turbo size all have to be equal to yield the the same result, one lil change and its all altered needs wise... but once we have a study finds we should be able to apply the same theories to a different setup as long as we know flow rates and backpressure data...

Jason Sarratt
2401 SC-PBG 1350cc
www.hellcat-customs.com