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isiahstites 3rd February 2008, 00:15 Well the new racing season will be starting in four months and I have been planning all winter what will be on the agenda this year for the bike.
Currently I have the bike down at a friends shop on a building table for motorcycles as I am with his guidance going to be cutting the existing neck off and stretching the frame and lower the neck. This will allow me to be a little more stretched out on the bike and reduce frontal area.
With the new backbone and neck in place the Yamaha tank will more than likely not be on the bike this year as I will be using the space in front of the motor for a hand made gas tank. This will allow me to get lower in the bike. I will add a fuel pump and a regulator to get the fuel to the carb which will be getting a S&S style air cleaner and doing away with the stack.
With the new changes to the frame I will have to make new fork stops. With the rule change this year I will have to keep the travel at 15 degrees to either side.
After all of the frame work is done I will be building another set of custom pipes for the bike which should make more power on the top end. We are hoping to go over the 130 horse mark this year with the new pipes.
Once the exhaust is done I will be hoping to add a data logging system to the bike so I can see real time a/f ratios while the bike is running. This will also allow me to a record a run so I can see how the bike ran through the run. There are various items I can log such as a/f, rpm, tps, map and oil pressure. There are many others that can be logged however I do not see a need as I am interested in logging rpm and a/f mainly.
And last but not least I plan on adding a set of full fairing to the bike so I can try and achieve my goal of 175 mph. I have a great color scheme planned for the bike that will hopefully be worth 1-2 mph! j/k
Pictures to follow after next weekend.
Scott
cjburr 3rd February 2008, 00:25 good luck Scott, looking forward to your build this year as last years was most excellent.
Chris
CBAS5 3rd February 2008, 00:39 Good stuff. Did the engine survive through the first racing season or do you have to recondition it?
isiahstites 3rd February 2008, 00:43 Good stuff. Did the engine survive through the first racing season or do you have to recondition it?
I had more time on the dyno then I did on the track!
Motor is good and solid!
Scott
DC in PHX 3rd February 2008, 00:47 Can't wait!! Your last LS build thread was one of the very best on this forum.
Thanks so much for sharing.:D
DC
Rascal 3rd February 2008, 01:02 Sounds like you're a busy one, good luck with the build!
isiahstites 3rd February 2008, 20:30 I forgot to mention in my first post the bike weighed in at 410 lbs with a full tank of gas........not bad for a HD bike. I will also be adding some stablizing support to the rear of the bike to prevent frame flex.
Scott
isiahstites 9th February 2008, 02:45 Thursday after work I spent about an hour and half stripping the bike to what you see in the pictures below. I removed everything so the bike could bolted down to build table. I took pictures from all angles so you could see what the current neck looks like and what the new one will look like once it's finished.
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Here is what's left after cutting most of the back bone, neck and down tubes off.
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Here is a pic of the neck jig that I started to set-up. I didn't get much farther than this as I could not find the right set of centering cones. I will get back to the set-up Monday. I will determine the desired stretch of the back bone and move the chassis forward to neck jig at that measuremnt and then center the chasis on the table and bolt it down in place and then I will center the neck jig and bolt it in place. This will allow me to start mocking up the back bone and down tubes to the new neck position.
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This a shot of the back bone after being cut. I was shocked to find out that the 1 1/2" tubing had a 1/4" wall thickness. I found a piece of tubing the same o.d. and i.d as the existing back bone I just have not figured out how I am going to bend tubing that thick.
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I will be back to work Monday making the slugs for all of the new tubing to mate with the old tubing via a rosette weld.
Scott
isiahstites 12th February 2008, 05:38 After I got off work today I went down to the shop and machined down these slugs which were orginally 1" o.d. and I needed .750 o.d. to fit the inside of the downtubes. I am not much of a machinist, but they will work.
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Here they are in the downtubes, I started to drill the holes to weld them in place but it was time to go as the guys at the shop had worked a full day so I will be back at it Wednsday to make the slug for the backbone and to bend the tube for the backbone.
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Scott
isiahstites 16th February 2008, 04:38 I got the slug for the back bone turned down.
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I got the holes drilled to weld the slug in place.
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I got the new back bone bent and in place. I had to use a 16 ton press to bend it, the 1/4' wall is a complete pain in the ass.
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I am off Monday so I plan on heading to the shop for part of the day to complete some more. It has been kind of frustating working an hour here and an hour there, but it's getting done slowly but surely.
Scott
CBAS5 16th February 2008, 04:44 When you look at this picture does it look to you like there is oil on the cases? Are you weeping oil in that area?
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isiahstites 16th February 2008, 04:48 Yeah it does look like there is oil there. To my knowledge the bike doesn't leak and remember the dirt of El Mirage is so fine that it is attracted to everything. I have never dealt with dirt that is so hard to get off of things, it gets everywhere!
Scott
CBAS5 16th February 2008, 04:56 It's not a leak, but it does look to have a pretty good weep. I was thinking maybe it's from the oil filter when you change the oil, but it's too high to account for all of it. I see the dirt. It is brownish. It looks different. The other stains look like oil.
isiahstites 23rd February 2008, 08:06 I got the back bone cut to fit the neck. I decided on 38 degrees of rake as the trail was better at 38 than at 40. I stretched the frame 4 inches and it is about 4 or 5 inches lower.
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Here I have the bike centered and locked down to the table. I set up the laser to create a plane so the center of the neck, back bone and rear axle could all be found a centered.
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Look in front of the brush handle at the end of the table you can see the laser on the table and on top of the center line of the table.
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Here are all of the pieces cut, drilled, bent, massaged, tweaked, fish mouthed and a bunch of other things that took me forever to complete. Oh, it's almost time to weld!
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Everything is tacked in place and ready for final welding.
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Here is my friend Dusty TIG welding the frame. I decided to have him TIG weld it rather than me MIG weld the frame. He is a much better welder than I am so it will be piece of mine when I am speeding down the track!
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Here is the frame back at my house all welded up and ready for some more modifications.
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I will be adding some gussets to strengthen the neck as well as a motor mount and steering stops.
Scott
Hanoverfiste 23rd February 2008, 10:35 Great Job So Far!
isiahstites 24th February 2008, 03:52 Put the front end on today along with the rear wheel to see what she looks like with her new modifications.
I knew the front end was going to stick up out of the triple trees, so I am looking into lowering the front end a little bit. The legs do not have to be level with the triple trees althought I would like them there. I have seen lots of guys run them like mine are now, however I will be attempting to correct it as it will allow me more flexibility when mounting my fairing.
I really like the new stance of the bike!
Scott
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Swankster 24th February 2008, 04:08 Hot digity dog again, simply outstanding! A few questiuons; are you going to beef up the inner neck region with some gusseting?
What S&S carb & mods to same are you running?
Swankster
isiahstites 24th February 2008, 04:13 What S&S carb & mods to same are you running?
Swankster
HUH?
Yes, I will be adding some gussets when I figure out where I am going to put the fuel tank.
Scott
isiahstites 8th March 2008, 16:34 I got some work done today. I want to try and put in as much time as I can now so I don't have to rush at the end so I should be posting a little more often than I have lately.
I made a template of a gusset and then transfered it to steel
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Here they are welded in place.
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Made my stabilizer bracket and welded it in place as well.
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Added a 3" piece of tubing here to reduce chassis flex, I will be looking to do similiar bracing in the rear as well.
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New exhaust parts have arrived.
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niels 9th March 2008, 17:03 Nice work man, it's lookin' wicked!
isiahstites 10th March 2008, 03:42 I removed the old battery tray from the left side of the seat post because it wan't allowing me to bring my left knee in. With the new fairing I want the left and right sides of the fairing to be the widest portions of the bike when I am riding not my knees. By moving the batter I can turn the oil tank slightly on the seat post and this will move the filler neck out of the way and allow my right knee to tuck in as well.
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I cut the mounting bracket off.
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This is the bottom of the seat post. If I had a rear fender it would mount here. I cut a wedge out of each side so I could bend the whole mount down.
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Here the mount has been moved down and the wedge is gone and will be welded.
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Here is the new location of the battery
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I didn't get much else done today as I kept screwing things up so I felt is was best just to walk away and come back another day.
Scott
isiahstites 13th March 2008, 02:41 I borrowed a set of fairings from a friend to see how they fit my bike prior to ordering a set. I think they are going to work well. They are just sitting there now , however the front will need to be moved up a little for ground clearance and the rear is going to be highly modified to meet the rules. In the rear I will probably cut the seat area out and re-glass it so it conforms to the original seating position of the bike which is the most comfortable.
Scott
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gwcrim 13th March 2008, 14:35 SPROING!!!! That baby is almost as hot as Elliot Spitzers hooker. Can't wait to see the finished product.
scott494 13th March 2008, 14:43 :roflblack:roflblack:roflblack
SPROING!!!! That baby is almost as hot as Elliot Spitzers hooker. Can't wait to see the finished product.
isiahstites 14th March 2008, 02:48 SPROING!!!! That baby is almost as hot as Elliot Spitzers hooker. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Thanks, it will look better as I have a cool paint and color scheme planned out.
Scott
isiahstites 17th March 2008, 04:56 Worked on the exhaust today.
I cut an these 1/8" thick so the flange would a place to stop against.
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Here everything is together prior to welding.
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Here is the exhaust all welded up and wrapped except the last piece I may change it once I have the fairing mounted permanently.
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Bruce 20th March 2008, 18:11 Hey Scott, I just noticed the USMC sticker on your bike. Semper Fi!!! Great wright up on your bike. Good luck in the upcoming season. Ride safe.
isiahstites 21st March 2008, 02:51 Hey Scott, I just noticed the USMC sticker on your bike. Semper Fi!!! Great wright up on your bike. Good luck in the upcoming season. Ride safe.
Thanks, Semper Fi brother, Semper Fi!
isiahstites 21st March 2008, 23:05 Made these pieces today for the top motor mount.
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Here it is drilled and tacked into place. I will finish welding it when I take the bike a part for painting.
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isiahstites 23rd March 2008, 04:54 Steering stops are complete and adjustable. Idea came from Randy N at MDR, this will allow me to have the rule required 15 degrees while racing and then what ever I desire while moving around and loading and unloading.
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I got started on the gas tank as well, it should be about 1.5 gallons when I am done.
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isiahstites 24th March 2008, 02:36 I finished up the gas tank today. I am kinda shocked to say that if my math is correct that I have about a 2 1/2 gallon tank.
I started to weld up the bottom of the tank and stopped. I figured I have friends who are great welders and for safety reasons it would be better to let them weld it, fire at 175 mph probably isn't fun and I do not want to find out.
I will finish up the mounting brackets for the tank this week. I haven't decided how I am going to mount the tank yet, but I will figure it out later.
I am also going to order my filler neck, petcock and vent bungs this week so I can everything welded at all at once.
All in all I am happy with the tank as it is going to work well in the small space and it is out of the way. The tank being under the back bone will also allow me to get my whole body much closer to the back bone rather than the traditional gas tank like I had before.
Scott
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isiahstites 25th March 2008, 06:23 My friend and fellow LSR racer Randy S brought a very important point to my attention regarding my newly fabricated gas tank..........it is block the air flow to the front cylinder head! DOH!!!
So I cut two inches off of the bottom which is approximately 1/4 gallon so now my tank is about 2.25 gallons.
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Here is the tank with the new bottom.
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Plenty of airflow now.
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Here is the cap and bungs for the vent, petcock and gas cap.
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The finished product.
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gwcrim 25th March 2008, 13:56 I had one heckova time with fuel spewing out of my tank vents. I was using two 4" tube tanks w/vented caps. I had to run 4' long vent lines to the rear of the bike just to keep fuel off of me. The only cause I could come up with was that there wasn't a baffle for the vents and of course, the good old Harley vibrato.
NRHS Sales 25th March 2008, 16:39 Looks good Scott. Airflow looks like it will be fine. I think being a little higher up will also help with gravity filling your float bowl faster as well.
Like Crim says watch the vents as they love to spew especially during decel. We route ours back into the fuel tank with some very creative routing.
isiahstites 26th March 2008, 02:33 Looks good Scott. Airflow looks like it will be fine. I think being a little higher up will also help with gravity filling your float bowl faster as well.
Like Crim says watch the vents as they love to spew especially during decel. We route ours back into the fuel tank with some very creative routing.
I am going to be running a fuel pump with a regulator. I will watch the vent, thanks guys.
Scott
isiahstites 27th March 2008, 01:39 I picked up my fairings today and I am very pleased to have a set of new fairings I can fit to my bike. I have a lot of cutting and trimming to do to make the fairings fit the bike so they can be mounted properly and be easy to take on and off of the bike quickly.
As you can see the nose is sitting up high, I will need to trim the inside of the fairing or widen it to allow the whole fairing to sit down on the bike. I will also have a lot of work to do to the rear fairing to make it conform to the rules and to fit a chassis that was never designed for a tail section such as this one.
Scott
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Screw Loose Dan 27th March 2008, 02:10 Scott - This is one of my favorite threads to read, keep up the great work and keep posting!!
When/where are you planning on racing this year? I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to LSR racing, but I understand there are different classes, what's the class you'll be running in? (maybe I need to go back and reread the entire thread to see if you mentioned it somewhere...but I always get distracted by the pictures :doh)
isiahstites 27th March 2008, 02:19 Scott - This is one of my favorite threads to read, keep up the great work and keep posting!!
When/where are you planning on racing this year? I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to LSR racing, but I understand there are different classes, what's the class you'll be running in? (maybe I need to go back and reread the entire thread to see if you mentioned it somewhere...but I always get distracted by the pictures :doh)
No problem bro, I will race at Bonneville and EL Mirage this year.
The class I am going to run in this year is APS-PG 1350 which means A=Special Construction Chassis PS=Partially Streamlines PG=Pushrod Gas and 1350 is the maximum amout of cc's for that class.
I am glad you are enjoying the build.....you should be here it is twice as much fun.
Scott
BWP 5p 30th March 2008, 05:19 I just stumbled on this:doh
You do some real nice work Scott:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap
Semper Fi Bro!
I'll be watching this from now on too!:clap
isiahstites 30th March 2008, 22:46 I just stumbled on this:doh
You do some real nice work Scott:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap
Semper Fi Bro!
I'll be watching this from now on too!:clap
Thank you,
All of the welding on the gas tank is finished and I made brackets to hold the tank on the backbone. I still need to pressure test the tank and I found out that my guesstimation of how much gas the tank would hold was wrong, it holds a gallon and a half.
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I finished making the battery box this weekend and still have to make something to hold the bottom of the box to the top.
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I am almost all done with all of the fabrication portion of the build so things should start to move quickly in the next couple of weeks. I still need to make fairing brackets to hold and support the body work as well making mounts for the fuel pump and regulator.
Also found out today that the original record of 184 mph that was going to take quite a great pass to beat is incorrect, the record is actually 178.170, still difficult however not as hard as 184.
Scott
isiahstites 5th April 2008, 04:07 Good news! Even though I bought and expected to use the fuel pump and regulator it turns out I do not need to the bottom of the tank is about an inch higher than the highest point on the float bowl!
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I picked up a set of 25 Dzus fasteners, springs and grommets for $16 off of ebay.
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I finished the mounting bracket for the battery box to keep the top and bottom together.
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I ordered and received my Zero Gravity windshield for my fairing. $99, not bad for a custom windshield.
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I cut some material from the from fairing to make it sit down on the bike. Hopefully this weekend I can get the fairing mounted and in there final resting place.
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isiahstites 14th April 2008, 03:04 The front fairing is mounted and the back has been cut on and is close to being mounted.
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Frontal area.......looks fast!
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Quick releases at all three mounting locations.
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Here is what holds the front in position.
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Here is what the front tube slides in for the nose of the fairing.
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Mounting locations
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Side view, the pin is pulled and the fairing comes right off. The whole process takes about 15 seconds to get the fairing off.
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I also made them adjustable so I can change the airflow along the side of the fairing, I can push it out or pull it in.
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Started to cut the clip-ons so they can be a tighter fit with-in the fairing, they fit now but are really tight so to make sure I am not questioned about them being close I am moving them.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2503.jpg
On a side note, I quit using my mig welder because a friend was giving me grief about it since I have a tig I do not use, so I have been practicing my tig skills and they are coming along. All of the mounting brackets I did with the tig, not perfect but strong and functional.
Dakin Engineering 17th April 2008, 03:58 Love the 'glas.
Gotta ask; what is your max width?
Sam
isiahstites 17th April 2008, 04:09 I think it is 23"
Scott
sportsterfreak05 17th April 2008, 04:15 Dude you have so much talent im rubbing this thread in hopes it will come through my monitor onto me. Wait a minute that dont sound right. Good job, you are good.
isiahstites 17th April 2008, 06:06 Dude you have so much talent im rubbing this thread in hopes it will come through my monitor onto me. Wait a minute that dont sound right. Good job, you are good.
Thanks, and ya it didn't sound right.
Scott
isiahstites 19th April 2008, 03:29 Ok , I got the handlebars cut and re-welded together. I have only been using my tig welder as of late and my skills are starting to improve.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2537.jpg
Here is the start of the seat/support for the fairing. It is 16 gauge and since I don't have a break I cut a groove in the places I wanted a bend and then bent it by hand.
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Cut to shape.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2542.jpg
Welded the seems back up so I would not have any flex in them.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2545.jpg
Mounted to the frame.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2546.jpg
Here is how the fairing is held on to the newly made seat pan. These are dzus buttons which lock and unlock with a 1/4 turn. These will allow fast removal of the fairing. I will add a couple of these to the sides as well.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2548.jpg
Here is the front and rear fairings mounted and un-trimmed.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2547.jpg
Dakin Engineering 19th April 2008, 14:13 How much ground clearance?
Sam
isiahstites 19th April 2008, 15:45 How much ground clearance?
Sam
4 inches :banadanc :banana
Dakin Engineering 20th April 2008, 00:10 How much with you on it?
I'm on Progressive's up front, got 1.5" left at full compression, about 2.75 at rest, loaded.
Sam
isiahstites 20th April 2008, 00:14 How much with you on it?
I'm on Progressive's up front, got 1.5" left at full compression, about 2.75 at rest, loaded.
Sam
It should still be really close to four in the front because alot of my weight is further back due to the lengthing of the chassis. The rear is rigid and the front is the S3 Buell front end.
Scott
isiahstites 21st April 2008, 04:23 Here are the lower rear fairing mounts, just pull the pin on each side and the fairing is off quickly.
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I cut the opening for the new windscreen.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2563.jpg
Then drilled the holes in both the screen and the fairing.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2564.jpg
Here it is installed.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2568.jpg
Here is the riders view.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2570.jpg
I got the portion for my legs trimmed as well as installed the new front fender and some more trimming on the front fairing so the fender would not hit it while turning.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2571.jpg
And a front view.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2573.jpg
tneff 21st April 2008, 05:13 Awesome job once again, the Yamaha tank gave it character but I really like the new look.
gwcrim 21st April 2008, 15:16 That thing it just plain BAD AZZ!!!
isiahstites 27th April 2008, 04:56 After being sick all week I was finally able to get back out into the garage and get some work done today.
I got the belly pan fitted and installed.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2581.jpg
Here is what is holding it all together.
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Here is the bike on the ground.
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isiahstites 30th April 2008, 04:16 I didn't like the way the new exhaust I built awhile back turned out as far as fit and finish and I didn't weld it as good as I could have, so I remade the whole thing! I wanted it to be right and it was bugging me.....
Here is the new one wrapped and with the 02 bung welded into place. I welded the pipe and bung with my tig this time not my mig, I took my time building this exhaust and am much happier........I will sleep tonight!!
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http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2597.jpg
Here is what it looks like with the fairing in place.
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Mr.Hick 30th April 2008, 04:48 dude. astounding. Awesome, really.
I'm almost speechless.
NRHS Sales 2nd May 2008, 15:26 Looks great Scott. I think you are going to catch some flack though for how much of your rear wheel is covered. make sure you take something to trim it if needed when you go to your first meet.
isiahstites 3rd May 2008, 05:06 I took the primary apart today with the intentions of getting it back together before the days end after I installed the stator and rotor. Well that didn't happen, I was missing the four screws that hold the stator in place and one screw that holds the rotor to the sprocket. I also found out that the housing on the clutch cable at the primary was broke. So a trip to the mc shop was needed.
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While I was at the mc shop I bought this as I did not want to run the velocity stack. This air filter and back plate are made just for the Super D carb and have a extra wide filter.
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After I got back from the two mc shops I started to put everything back together. After I was finished installing the stator, rotor, front and rear sprockets I decided to roll the motor over by hand to make sure everything worked as it was supposed to............grinding is not good!! I broke one of the magnets away from the rotor due to a loose alan socket the rotor picked up. DAMN IT!!
So after to some research I found others have used JB Weld to re-attach the magnet with no problems. Now the primary will have to be finished in the morning.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2616.jpg
I also got the speedometer re-mounted so it can be easily read while riding.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2620.jpg
BWP 5p 3rd May 2008, 15:42 Get some sleep Scott..........
Your speedo seems to read in RPM rather than MPH!:doh:laugh:laugh:laugh:D
isiahstites 3rd May 2008, 15:45 Get some sleep Scott..........
Your speedo seems to read in RPM rather than MPH!:doh:laugh:laugh:laugh:D
I know, I know, you are not the only one who has called this to my attention. However I know how fast I am going based on how many rpm's the motor is spinning in a certain gear. Two more weeks of grinding and then I can take a break.
Scott
BWP 5p 4th May 2008, 00:13 However I know how fast I am going based on how many rpm's the motor is spinning in a certain gear.
Scott
I use the same method above 120 on my R!:clap
Not much else you can do!:laugh
isiahstites 10th May 2008, 05:19 It has been extremely busy week for me, my dam job gets in the way of me finishing what is really important!
I got the primary all back together and the new clutch cable installed.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2621.jpg
The regulator is mounted.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2624.jpg
New chain and new sprocket installed.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2625.jpg
I shortened the handlebars to give me the proper clearances I need in the fairing.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2630.jpg
The exhaust has been cut flush to match the contour of the fairing.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2631.jpg
Kickstand
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Bike has been disassembled and painted.
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Well the first hell week is over and it is time for the second one. I need to re-assemble everything and get everything working. It is going to come down to the wire. My new leathers are suppose to be done Wednesday and I have a fitting on Thursday, I hope they fit. I am glad I got and early start this year.
isiahstites 11th May 2008, 06:15 Today I surprised myself and was able to get a lot of the bike put back together, it is about 90% back together and it took me around 6 hours to get to this point.
Tomorrow, if all goes well I will finish up the rest and wire the bike and start working out any possible problems.
Scott
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isiahstites 14th May 2008, 04:32 Ok, here are a few pics of the bike finished as far as building is concerned. The bike is wired and everything is working. All I need to do now is some fine tuning, safety wire and some minor bodywork.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/100_2652.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/100_2653.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/100_2647.jpg
And here is a video of the bike running. I rode it last night at I was impressed with the power the motor had.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmTuN64B74Y
Enjoy,
Scott
CRUSH1776 14th May 2008, 05:04 This bike is amazing! Good luck on your quest.
NRHS Sales 14th May 2008, 15:26 Sounds really good!! Must have been a really good engine builder put that bottom end together!! ;)
isiahstites 15th May 2008, 02:48 Sounds really good!! Must have been a really good engine builder put that bottom end together!! ;)
Yeah, some guy name Dan.....heard of him?
Scott
NRHS Sales 15th May 2008, 16:55 I seem to recall hearing that name come up in some conversations!
Narley 16th May 2008, 02:28 Did those conversations sart with would the defendent please stand and address the courtroom....?
cjburr 16th May 2008, 03:09 did you ever get that leak at the front of your motor fixed ??
2nd and 3rd pics down in this post at the front of the motor where the cases come together
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showpost.php?p=1100051&postcount=9
isiahstites 16th May 2008, 03:53 did you ever get that leak at the front of your motor fixed ??
2nd and 3rd pics down in this post at the front of the motor where the cases come together
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showpost.php?p=1100051&postcount=9
I am not sure if I had a leak, but I cleaned everything up, installed a new oil filter and made sure it was tigt and will monitor from there.
Scott
cjburr 16th May 2008, 04:09 Sorry, can't be "we" talk to him......you'll have to ask him yourself,,,if you can get him to quit patting himself on the back:laugh:laugh
Best of luck Scott, hope all goes well for you :clap:clap
Chris
isiahstites 16th May 2008, 05:16 Sorry, can't be "we" talk to him......you'll have to ask him yourself,,,if you can get him to quit patting himself on the back:laugh:laugh
Best of luck Scott, hope all goes well for you :clap:clap
Chris
Dan has done a hell of a job for me!! He has stood by his work from day one, I feel as if though I have made a great friend.
Thanks you,
Scott
NRHS Sales 16th May 2008, 15:27 Geez CJ,
Did you go through every page of this thread just to try to find something negative to say about me? Why would you do something so petty on Scotts thread. He is justifiably very proud of this build and you feel the need to bring your vendetta against me here and put a negative light on this thread. Very un-cool in my book!
isiahstites 16th May 2008, 17:01 Racing tomorrow and Sunday!!
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Johnny Wolf 16th May 2008, 17:30 Damn Scott! Outstanding thread.
What speeds do you hope to achieve?
If you have to add some weight how/where do you plan to do so?
Also, are you going to run at El Mirage? I've been to many a meet there, my brother is a "Sidewinder". He's not an active member anymore, but still goes to the meets.
cjburr 16th May 2008, 17:42 Geez CJ,
Did you go through every page of this thread just to try to find something negative to say about me? Why would you do something so petty on Scotts thread. He is justifiably very proud of this build and you feel the need to bring your vendetta against me here and put a negative light on this thread. Very un-cool in my book!
no Dan you really think too much of yourself. I've been following Scott's thread from the start if you look at the posts you'll see I was the first one to respond to Scott's thread and was wondering if he had fixed what looked like a leak to me.
It had nothing to do with you, merely the condition of his bike.
Scott was the one who brought you into it saying we had to ask you about the leak not me, I merely replied that he would have to ask you himself as we don't talk to each other......now his post is edited to make it look like I brought it up.......how uncool is that Dan ???
As I have said before, nice job and good luck Scott,
Chris
isiahstites 16th May 2008, 17:42 If I had to add weight to my bike it would be in the front.....think if a dart. My center of gravity and center of pressure are closer together than I would like them ot be, but I won't know if any weight is needed until I run.
Scott
Johnny Wolf 16th May 2008, 18:01 If I had to add weight to my bike it would be in the front.....think if a dart. My center of gravity and center of pressure are closer together than I would like them ot be, but I won't know if any weight is needed until I run.
Scott
Cool.
Are you running at El Mirage? I think a buddy of mine is running a bad azz Victory out there soon. I know for a fact he's going to be at Speed Week. Ya' can't miss it, it's black with red scallops, no body work except for a reworked rear fender and a 1 off streamlined front fender. It's got a very massaged 100 +" motor. I'll try to find a pic of it.
NRHS Sales 16th May 2008, 18:38 CJ,
Sorry if I took that the worng way. Just too much bad history between us.
Scott.
You really want to add weight to the swingarm not the front to prevent wheel spin.
gwcrim 16th May 2008, 19:28 The bike looks incredible. I'd love to take a ride.
But flat black??????? Is there a bit more color in it's future???
BWP 5p 17th May 2008, 21:26 Scott.....I'm with GW on the flat black. I also wondered if you will be laying with your chest right on the frame? Doesn't that hurt?
Bruce 18th May 2008, 16:35 I've been following your thread Scott and you've done a GREAT job on the bike. I wish you luck this year. Do you sponsor yourself or do you get some help? I hope you get the record. Ride safe. MC colors would look awesome. Simper Fi. Bro.
hooptygoo 18th May 2008, 18:13 The bike looks incredible. I'd love to take a ride.
But flat black??????? Is there a bit more color in it's future???
It absorbs radar! :laugh
Good luck this weekend! Looking forward to hearing the results.
isiahstites 18th May 2008, 23:12 Home safe and sound, I will update later this evening or tomorrow.
CJ,
Scott.
You really want to add weight to the swingarm not the front to prevent wheel spin.
After running this weekend I do not think I need to add any weight.
The bike looks incredible. I'd love to take a ride.
But flat black??????? Is there a bit more color in it's future???
I have figured out a great design for the bike that will be in a vibrant orange and the rest of the bike will be flat black or gloss black. The current color is black primer just so the bike wasn't white........I basically ran out of time.
Scott.....I'm with GW on the flat black. I also wondered if you will be laying with your chest right on the frame? Doesn't that hurt?
I am right on it but barely touching it.......
I've been following your thread Scott and you've done a GREAT job on the bike. I wish you luck this year. Do you sponsor yourself or do you get some help? I hope you get the record. Ride safe. MC colors would look awesome. Simper Fi. Bro.
I have had technical help from friends and a few have cut me slack for some parts.....so I guess that is kind of sponsoring, but I have payed for 99% of everything on this bike and the costs to run it............a sponsor or some dontations would really help me get to Bonneville this year.
Scott
isiahstites 19th May 2008, 05:05 While at the track this weekend I had a friend who was updating some friends on another forum as to my progress, so instead of me writing something I have copied what he has written as he can write/tell a story much than I.
Here is what he wrote:
UPDATE NO. 1
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Scotty just called at 1:30PM, PST.
On the first run of the "new" Bonneville Buell, all was well, pulling clean & strong, handling perfectly.
At the normal shift point, 7300 RPM in 3th gear the bike would not shift to 4th.
He kept trying to make the shift but in so doing he lost several hundred RPM.
He finally got it into 4th but it bogged a bit from the dropped RPM.
Scott nursed it back up to the the shift point but it would not shift to 5th, even after several tries.
He "ran out of track" and was timed at 148 MPH in 4th !
The record for his class is a fast 178 MPH. His gearing calculator shows the bike *could* run 177 MPH at 7300 RPM in 5th (top) gear.
The rev-limiter hits at 7500 RPM, so...if he gets the shifting problem straightened out, he could top the 178 MPH record by several MPH.
Unlike Bonneville where you have to average two opposite direction speeds and exceed the old record to set a new one, at El Mirage you only have to exceed the old record in a single, one-way run. So, if the shifting can be corrected, a new record is definitely do-able and could happen..
*Could* being the operative word. No Land Speed Racer worth his salt says what he is going to do, only what he has done !
But it is very encouraging and Scott is really pretty happy. He is going to check all the obvious things like boot or shift lever interference and will try pre-loading the shifter as a way to possibly help. He may/may not attempt a shift mechanism repair at the track.
It is 105 F. at the track and he ran just after noon, meaning the air was very "thin". A bit cooler for a later run today will be a plus, and the jetting should still be good.
Tech inspection went great and the Bonneville Buell performed flawlessly, save the recalcitrant shifter. He found a little engine oil in the belly pan after the run and will be chasing that but it is not significant.
He is really impressed with the performance of the motor and how stable the bike is...both signs of a well built racer !
More later...wish him luck !
EDIT: I forgot to mention, last year's best speed of the (brand new) Bonneville Buell was 128 MPH in 5th gear. Great progress !
UPDATE NO. 2
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Scott called with today's last update.
Best case scenarios for the shifter & oil puking problems. Both turned out to be "new racer" teething problems that require a bit of fettling.
A heim joint on the shift linkage was rubbing inside the fairing preventing the 4-5 shift. It sounds like he'll do a "trackside fix" that will get the job done but require some TLC when he gets it home. "Inelegant but effective" for now.
The oil is normal for a "breathed on" HD motor turning 7300-7500 RPM for extended periods. A jerry-rigged catch bottle and a little hose will fix that.
The bad news is he won't get to make another pass today.
The good news he is near the start of the line for a pass tomorrow morning.
The other good news is why...
He gave up his slot for a run today to help another racer fix a problem and get in his "rookie run".
It was obvious that Scott has the smarts, skills & balls to build and race this bike in Land Speed Racing.
Now it is obvious that he also has the heart of a true racer.
Good luck tomorrow man...
UPDATE NO. 3
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Scott got in another pass this morning at 9:00AM PST.
No record (yet) but things are progressing.
He was still experiencing shifter problems although it was better. He "missed" the 2-3 shift which cost him time (track length) and speed (power); until he could shift on up, 2-3, 3-4 & 4-5.
His trap speed was 168 MPH in 5th (against the 178 record), with the engine still pulling & accelerating.
In other-words, he "ran out of track", well before he ran out of power, gearing, or "aero". Very encouraging.
Unlike Bonneville, El Mirage is much shorter and doesn't allow room for missed shifts, etc.
Temp was 85 F. and air density was 5,180 ft. Anyone know the 'mean sea level' at El Mirage ?
He said he *may* get in one more run and will update us if so.
If you see no more updates, that's "all she wrote" for this meet.
In my opinion he has had a very successful meet. Only a couple of minor problems with the "new" bike, and the potential more more speed was proven.
Way to go Scotty !
As you can see my friend is an excellent writer!
I could of made a few more passes today after my morning pass, however I just didn't feel right about getting back on the bike again until I had gone through it again to make sure everything was tight and in good working order, so next month we will be gunning for the 170 and 175 mark!
Here are few pics to start, I will post more in the next few days.
Scott
It was really hot!! WATER!!!
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2674.jpg
We are off!
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Here is me and my pregnant Umbrella Girl/ Crew Chief!
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gwcrim 19th May 2008, 11:41 Why does he call it the Bonneville "Buell?" It's a Sportster, ain't it?
isiahstites 19th May 2008, 13:20 Why does he call it the Bonneville "Buell?" It's a Sportster, ain't it?
It's a Buell.....look at the wheels and front end.
Thanks,
Scott
CBAS5 19th May 2008, 13:36 What are you using for the bottom end? Is it the stock flywheel assembly or something else like an S&S?
aswracing 19th May 2008, 13:38 Great job, Scott!
Hey, on the oil out the breather thing, we see that frequently on stock case race motors that get held at high rpm. They wet sump like a bitch and it doesn't matter which pump you use. It also seems to want to come out past every gasket and seal in the motor. Lowering the oil pressure with a bypass setup, through about a 140 CV jet, fixes it nicely. You can tap the bypass into the hose between the pump and filter, or take it off the filter boss at the oil pressure sender. Route it through the jet and either directly back to the tank (best) or back into the return line (usually easier). Your oil problems will go away.
NRHS Sales 19th May 2008, 14:50 Scott is running carillo rods on stock wheels that we assembled and balanced for him.
gwcrim 19th May 2008, 17:33 It's a Buell.....look at the wheels and front end.
Didn't it start out life as a Sportster?
Not that I'm picking nits or anything..........
BWP 5p 20th May 2008, 00:11 Just think if the Xlforum sponsored him......:shhhh:shhhh:shhhh:)
What if 500 members each gave....say $10 minimum or 1000 members gave ???
Paypal account Scott?
isiahstites 20th May 2008, 00:54 Didn't it start out life as a Sportster?
Not that I'm picking nits or anything..........
I paid a $1000 for this in April of 07'
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isiahstites 20th May 2008, 00:57 Just think if the Xlforum sponsored him......:shhhh:shhhh:shhhh:)
What if 500 members each gave....say $10 minimum or 1000 members gave ???
Paypal account Scott?
That would be awesome! I would be blown away if something like that were to happen. As of now Bonneville is not going to happen as my wife was recently laid off and is expecting are first. If I do go it will be in October.
And yes I do have a paypal account if anyone wants to help. (stites@cox.net)
Scott
isiahstites 20th May 2008, 04:00 Great job, Scott!
Hey, on the oil out the breather thing, we see that frequently on stock case race motors that get held at high rpm. They wet sump like a bitch and it doesn't matter which pump you use. It also seems to want to come out past every gasket and seal in the motor. Lowering the oil pressure with a bypass setup, through about a 140 CV jet, fixes it nicely. You can tap the bypass into the hose between the pump and filter, or take it off the filter boss at the oil pressure sender. Route it through the jet and either directly back to the tank (best) or back into the return line (usually easier). Your oil problems will go away.
Thanks Aaron! I spoke to Dan and he is sending me the necessary items to accomplish the task.
BTW: The exhaust was awesome and I got some compliments about how good it sounded at full throttle.
Scott
aswracing 20th May 2008, 04:12 Scott, that pipe design will revert like crazy through the middle. It'll go real rich through there as well.
If, when pulling through the middle, you get a little rich popping/hesitating/shooting ducks, it's jetted just about right. Seriously, I've seen this lots and lots of times, with that pipe design, when the main is perfect at high rpm it'll complain just a little through the middle. It's a pretty good way to tell your jetting is right.
isiahstites 20th May 2008, 04:24 Scott, that pipe design will revert like crazy through the middle. It'll go real rich through there as well.
If, when pulling through the middle, you get a little rich popping/hesitating/shooting ducks, it's jetted just about right. Seriously, I've seen this lots and lots of times, with that pipe design, when the main is perfect at high rpm it'll complain just a little through the middle. It's a pretty good way to tell your jetting is right.
Aaron,
I had no popping or shooting ducks and the bike pulled real hard. Then again I don't have much to compare it to right now either. The plugs did look good in my opinion and it pulled the 23/45 tooth sprocket combo I was running with no problem in fifth gear.
Thanks for all of your help.
Scott
gwcrim 20th May 2008, 14:29 OK, I remember that bike.
PaulDM 23rd May 2008, 03:34 Sent a few Shekels your way, hope you get some good donations :-)
isiahstites 23rd May 2008, 13:19 Sent a few Shekels your way, hope you get some good donations :-)
Thanks Paul!!
Bruce 24th May 2008, 02:07 Hey Scott, sent a little help. Ride safe Bro.
isiahstites 24th May 2008, 02:28 Hey Scott, sent a little help. Ride safe Bro.
Thank you so much!! Can you send me your real name in a pm so I know which person you were that sent a donation?? Thanks again, this is awesome!!
Scott
isiahstites 24th May 2008, 05:30 Thank you so much!! Can you send me your real name in a pm so I know which person you were that sent a donation?? Thanks again, this is awesome!!
Scott
Never mind Bruce I figured it out, exuce my ignorance I have been a little overwhelmed!
Scott
funnythebunny 4th June 2008, 02:31 Scott, a few pesos are en-route to you. Five pesos are for the lil' lady's cravings. Good wishes to you both! PS- Boy or Girl?
Funnythebunny
isiahstites 4th June 2008, 04:17 Scott, a few pesos are en-route to you. Five pesos are for the lil' lady's cravings. Good wishes to you both! PS- Boy or Girl?
Funnythebunny
I got it!! Thank you very much!!! I will add your name to the list in the sponsor thread. You guys are out of this world!!
Scott
isiahstites 17th June 2008, 05:58 Ok guys a lot has happened since my last post. Some members of this and one other forum found out that I wan't going to make it to Bonneville due to my wife's layoff and pregnancy so they decided to help. Members started sending money and I AM NOW GOING TO BONNEVILLE!!
Here are the threads from two different forums.
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=222397
http://www.motorcyclistcafe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5200
As far as work has gone on the bike I am getting very close to having everything replaced that needed replaced or re-done or installed the way I wanted.
Since being back from El Mirage and leaving early on a gut feeling that two runs were plenty until I had time to go through the bike. I found the intake manifold had loosened up, along with the top motor mount.
I took the rear rocker cover and tightened it down as I had a small leak. I replaced my old rectifier with a new one.The seat pan was not mounted to my liking so I changed it and am much happier. I adjusted my shift lever so I would have more leverage when shifting to eliminate any mis-shifts. I cleaned and re-lubed the drive chain.
I also went through the entire bike and checked for any cracks in the chassis or any additional loose bolts.
I wires in a new kill switch.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2708.jpg
I installed this catch can that was donated by a forum (Rotten Ralph)member.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2705.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2704.jpg
I made a new mount for my new steering damper and installed the new damper.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2702.jpg
Well I got the cart in front of the horse and after the damper was installed I could not get my gas tank back in so I had to adapt and over come. I modified the mount so my gas tank would go back in and mounted the damper to the bottom of the triple tree instead of the top.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2706.jpg
I have new tires that will be here in a few days at which point I will replace the wheel bearings and the rear sprocket down one tooth.
The next race is Sunday and I feel really good about the bike and it's potential!
All of these new parts and the trip to Bonneville this year is because of all of the help I received from good people. I am truly humbled and grateful for their kindness!
Scott
isiahstites 20th June 2008, 05:09 Came home to some new tires yesterday! I always enjoy waiting on parts.......I am always anxious to see if something has shown up. Sometimes I feel like it is my Xmas all year round.
Tires are now mounted and balanced!
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2756.jpg
Before I did the tires I replaced the wheel bearings front and rear. I found the front left bearing was ready to fail. It is hard to see in the picture, but part of the bearing that rides between and separates the balls has broke and moved one of the balls slightly. I am glad I went with my instincts at the last race and passed on making any extra runs, this could of been ugly!!!
Old bearing is on the left and the new one is on the right. Look at the part where the two bearings are closest, that is the part that has started to fail.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2757.jpg
New bearings being pressed in........
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2762.jpg
The bike will be ready to go tomorrow evening after I put the wheels back on and finish up a few minor things. Leaving Saturday morning for tech and racing on Sunday!!
My goal for this bike all along has been 175 and I hope to achieve that goal on Sunday.
Scott
tneff 20th June 2008, 05:18 Good Luck and have a safe trip
isiahstites 20th June 2008, 05:19 Good Luck and have a safe trip
Thanks!!
:banana
isiahstites 20th June 2008, 05:20 A friend from another forum wrote this post in regards to my thank you thread and I thought I would share it with the members here.
Scott
Scotty, me boy...you are a class act my friend and it is an honor to be somewhat involved in your race effort, if only through a tiny donation, a steady stream of Good Texas Vibes, and the admiration and respect of a Cafe' Bro.
And one thing I truly hope we all appreciate..."just" going fast in a straight line is nowhere, NOWHERE as easy as it might appear.
I can jump on the Speedy, ride out in the country, pin her ears back and go somewhat fast. If I loaded her up and took her to El Mirage or Bonneville, and she & I performed flawlessly, I would be handed my head on a rusty old Coors tray at the end of the day.
Stock or near-stock motorcycles are fun to ride there, but will not set records. Highly-modified & developed ones will. Maybe.
One of the fascinating things about Land Speed Racing is how easy it looks and how difficult it actually is.
The altitude is significantly higher so you can't jet & tune until you get there. There are no practice or tuning sessions, you must jet, tune, adjust gearing & tire pressures, and debug the nits inherent in any racing machine at the same time you are attempting to qualify to attempt a record run. Bonneville temps typically run from the 40's in the morning to well over 100F in the afternoon. Humidity is normally *very* low and air density is all over the map.
The surface of the salt can change in a matter of hours, sometimes minutes, from so hard you can barely drive a spike into it, to a loose, wet slop that can be scooped up and shaped into "snowballs".
Supercharged, alcohol/nitro-methane burning 300 MPH roadsters can leave small, nearly invisible tracks that can instantly upset handling, stability & direction of the hapless motorcycle pilot.
The big, black-smoke belching trucks with 2 LARGE V-8 engines, two superchargers & four turbochargers can leave *deep* ruts on their 250 MPH runs that will trap your front wheel, get you "cross-rutted" and put you on your fast ass in an instant if you are not really paying attention, possess the proper skill-set, and have good basic handling augmented by an effective steering-damper for the times you just can't miss the ruts.
Cajones Grande are required...this stuff can kill you.
The salt can be concrete hard in places, and large soft, mushy, wet pools in others at the same time, same run. You can imagine what happens to that surface when a heavy or "super-fast" vehicle (over 300 MPH) plows through it.
Cross-winds are always a problem and often change directions 180 degrees and back again on the same run.
On any machine capable of speeds over, maybe 180 MPH or so, wheelspin is often a constant and always a problem.
You are hot, blinded by sweat, more uncomfortable than you have ever been on a motorcycle before, trying desperately to "get under the paint" to reduce wind-resistance just a small fraction more, "milking" the throttle as power increases and traction diminishes, watching your instruments & track markers, adjusting your strategy for which sets of timed sections you need to go fastest in, listening closely to the motor, feeling for mechanical vibrations that signal an impending part failure, looking for hi-traction & problem-free lines, memorizing locations of good & bad spots & lines for future reference, doing the balancing act of going fast enough to qualify or to set the record, while saving enough of the engine for another run...and more.
If setting Land Speed Records was easy, everyone would be doing it.
They are not.
As our departed hero and Bonneville legend Don Vesco once said, "Land Speed Racing is the last truly amateur motor racing left on the planet".
That doesn't mean it's a bunch of know-nothing Piss Willies twisting store-bought throttles up & down the track. It means there are virtually no real sponsorship deals, no paid professional teams, no racing of super high-tech machines built in factory race shops, no lucrative TV and product endorsement deals.
What it is, is a bunch of dedicated, highly motivated hot-rodders & speed junkies, breaking their personal piggy-banks to build their own speed devices to compete against their friends for a fifty-cent piece of paper and a $10.00 trophy.
When all that changes to professional, corporate programs, and sadly that is already begun, the speeds will go up but this grand sport, invented on the days the first motorcycle & car were born...will die.
So, a tip of the Arai to Scotty, Randy and all the other Land Speed Racers for what you guys do.
Bonneville is hallowed ground and you guys are helping to keep it so...:eusa_clap:
isiahstites 21st June 2008, 18:38 http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?p=1320185#post1320185
isiahstites 24th June 2008, 04:36 I made it back from El Mirage last night after some fun with the trailer. See pic below!
While there I made a pass of 167 and some change......it was only .200 off of last meets pass. The new tires, bearings and damper made the bike handle much better, she was as straight as an arrow!
The bike was geared about 4 mph faster this month due to an increase in tire size. Couple this with my 7200 rpm at the traps and I should of been in the mid 170's.........wheel spin killed us!! Also had some shifting problems again from 4th-5th......after three clutch pulls I finally got it..........this cost me a lot of ground and I am sure xx mph at the traps.
My next project for the bike is more support in the front fairing, playback tach w. shift light and eventually an air shifter.
These things will help across the board.
So as we stand I am still short of the 170 mark. With a smooth complete pass with no errors I believe I can get into the range, I will them tune from there, but until then I am making sure everything is functional on the bike and not getting aggressive with the motor and the tune.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/El%20Mirage/100_2805.jpg
Cool picture
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/El%20Mirage/100_2801.jpg
Here is the fun I had on the way home from El Mirage.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/El%20Mirage/100_2809.jpg
Hope you guys like this picture, I have an 8x10 coming. Check out all of his other photos......lots of LSR stuff.
http://76.169.115.204/racing/SCTA/080622%20El%20Mirage/pages/080622087.html
isiahstites 26th June 2008, 02:45 Just a quick update and a photo.
I found out that I am 11th of 64 bikes entered this year in the point chase and 35th out of 172 total vehicles.
That's pretty good for a first year bike and if I can make all the meets I fully intend finishing higher.
35th in points means I will run in the 35th position for the July meet. Which means by 8:30 A.M. which means no racing in the heat unless I make a second pass.
Here is the bike going through the traps at 167.
Scott
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/EOM30138.jpg
Bruce 29th June 2008, 13:30 Great write up Scott. You are doing great. Sounds like you have a good head on you. Taking things slowly. Good call on the wheel bearings, I bet your butt puckered when you found it. Good luck and ride safe. Semper Fi!
isiahstites 5th July 2008, 03:54 Well guys I think I have my shifting problems fixed, at least I hope!
When I added the stator and rotor this year I did not adjust the pawl, I just threw it and expected it to work! I completely forgot about having to adjust the pawl. I think that is why I have been having problems shifting into fifth.
So I tore down the primary today and adjusted the pawl.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2839.jpg
While everything was open I checked to see how the magnet that I used JB Weld on was holding up. I marked it with an x and as you can see it is doing fine.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2837.jpg
I had this thick like paste in the bottom of my primary last time I opened it up and was thinking it was the new clutch, but it's there again. It is not as thick, but it's still there. I will have to make sure the clutch is adjusted right on and wait until I am in the primary again.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2840.jpg
I checked all of the clutch discs and plates and everything looks fine.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2841.jpg
I also ordered my playback tachometer yesterday so hopefully it will be on the bike for the July race.
Scott
BWP 5p 5th July 2008, 04:01 Hope that cures the shifting bugaboos Scott!
isiahstites 5th July 2008, 04:04 Hope that cures the shifting bugaboos Scott!
Me to, I've got sponsors to keep happy!
Bruce 5th July 2008, 13:36 Hey Scott, Is the paste you are talking about steel or fiber. Will a magnet pick it up? It does look like your clutch plates have been a little warm, or it might be the reflection in the pic. Do you have to slip the clutch much to get going? What sprocket teeth ratio are you running to get your speeds?
funnythebunny 5th July 2008, 14:59 Great shots! Love the closeup of you from the linked site... Where can I get a large image for my desktop? ;-)
isiahstites 5th July 2008, 15:52 Hey Scott, Is the paste you are talking about steel or fiber. Will a magnet pick it up? It does look like your clutch plates have been a little warm, or it might be the reflection in the pic. Do you have to slip the clutch much to get going? What sprocket teeth ratio are you running to get your speeds?
I think it is the reflection as the plates looked great, almost new. I think the paste is more like a fiber, but there was plenty of it on the drain plug.
No clutch slip to get going and the ratio is about 1.875.
Great shots! Love the closeup of you from the linked site... Where can I get a large image for my desktop? ;-)
He wanted $250 for the e-file of the photo, so I can not help you other than you using the one with the watermark.
Scott
isiahstites 6th July 2008, 05:00 Well I finished up with the primary today. I replaced these parts.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2849.jpg
Here are the three new ones, I didn't get the small spring until after I had the primary back on.........so I have it next time I open the primary up. Notice my big spring is kinda messed up?
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2843.jpg
Here is the new detent plate on top of the old one. See how the valleys are a bit deeper, this should help.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2846.jpg
Here is the spring I did not replace, but bought. I will change it out next time as mine looked ok.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2847.jpg
Took the bike up and down the street today for a few very low passes just to see if I could get it into fifth. I still need to change the angle of the foot lever, but I was able to get it into fifth with no problems. There was once or twice I wasn't sure but once I started counting the down shifts instead of the up shifts I was 3 for 3! So hopefully between everything I checked, replaced and adjusted we won't have any more issues.
Scott
isiahstites 10th July 2008, 04:23 This video is me screwing around with the shifter as I take off on the bikes first pass in May at the 4:55 mark in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwMxf7klrks
The 5:00 mark of this video you can see the bike at full chat going through the traps 167 at at the June meet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmTr1SXVK1Q
Scott
Swankster 10th July 2008, 20:38 Thought some of you would like this as it gives a nice look and appreciation of what they have to deal with, at Bonneee anyways!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNkF1IlXw4&eurl=http://www.pashnit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17845&page=7
Swankster
BWP 5p 11th July 2008, 00:30 Looks to me like you were Cookin Scotty!!!!!!!!:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap
isiahstites 11th July 2008, 00:46 Thought some of you would like this as it gives a nice look and appreciation of what they have to deal with, at Bonneee anyways!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNkF1IlXw4&eurl=http://www.pashnit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17845&page=7
Swankster
Nice video! Scott is a friend of mine, we have talked about him helping me build my next land speed bikes motor.
Scott
BWP 5p 11th July 2008, 00:50 HEY RACER GUY
Get the heck off the internet and get to work on our Rocket!:spank:spank:spank:cheers:urock:urock:roflb lack:roflblack:roflblack:roflblack
isiahstites 11th July 2008, 01:15 HEY RACER GUY
Get the heck off the internet and get to work on our Rocket!:spank:spank:spank:cheers:urock:urock:roflb lack:roflblack:roflblack:roflblack
Going to the dyno tomorrow, got the tach in a few days ago, new sparks plugs came in today and I have some minor fairing work to do.
It will be ready for Bonneville.
Scott
BWP 5p 11th July 2008, 02:12 Going to the dyno tomorrow, got the tach in a few days ago, new sparks plugs came in today and I have some minor fairing work to do.
It will be ready for Bonneville.
Scott
I never doubted that for a second!:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap
isiahstites 12th July 2008, 06:32 Took the bike down to the dyno today to make a few test passes and make sure the bike is shifting correctly. All seems fine and it shifted into fifth with no problems, I did however find neutral a couple of times going from first to second.
While on the dyno my coil bracket broke, which caused my wires to go tight and they rubbed through the iginition wire and caused a short and fried one of my switches. After a quick repair so we could continue on the dyno we made a few more passes at which point I noticed the intake had loosened up again. This is when we noticed I had initially installed the gaskets on the intake wrong. Bonehead move on my part!! Back to make another pass, the bike is running fat until about 5500 rpm and then it starts to go lean all the way to redline. So a change of the main jet to fix the problem as all we are really worried about is the top end power as my bike should never see 5000 rpm except for at take off in first gear. Change the main jet and it is still fat but we are getting closer, I go to change to a larger main jet and the dam thing will not come out. I believe the head on the jet got partially stripped so the carb has to come off.
All in all I am happy even though I had a string of bad luck and I had some things pointed out to that were done wrong. I learned a lot from someone who I hold in high regard.
We made seven passes and all of them were with in a 1-2 horse of one another, so the bike was very consistent. Peak horsepower was around 124+ and torque was 99+. This is good as we did not finish with the dyno passes as I need to remove the jet and fix the other items. After the repairs are made we will make a few more passes in an effort to get some more power out of her.
Scott
aswracing 12th July 2008, 13:41 Scott, this is kind of what I was getting at when I suggested you use the shooting-ducks through the mid-range as a jetting guide. With those pipes, if it's pulling cleanly though the reversion, you're probably too lean. A good at-the-track way to get feedback (in addition to reading plugs) is to fatten it until it just starts giving you trouble in the middle.
What's happening is that the pipe reverts real bad a few thousand rpm below where it pulls the hardest. When it reverts, the motor goes rich. With those pipes, if you've got it jetted so lean that it pulls cleanly through that rich area, it's probably going to be too lean on top. You want to shoot a few ducks.
isiahstites 12th July 2008, 20:47 Scott, this is kind of what I was getting at when I suggested you use the shooting-ducks through the mid-range as a jetting guide. With those pipes, if it's pulling cleanly though the reversion, you're probably too lean. A good at-the-track way to get feedback (in addition to reading plugs) is to fatten it until it just starts giving you trouble in the middle.
What's happening is that the pipe reverts real bad a few thousand rpm below where it pulls the hardest. When it reverts, the motor goes rich. With those pipes, if you've got it jetted so lean that it pulls cleanly through that rich area, it's probably going to be too lean on top. You want to shoot a few ducks.
Thanks for the heads up Aaron! We were headed in the right direction until that jet got stuck. I will pull the carb and get everything fixed and get it back on the dyno prior to the USFRA event. I did notice as we started jetting the bike up that it would pull a certain way to the 5-6000 rpm range and then after that it was a different bike, the power really came on strong. This is something I had not experienced yet with the bike.
I am glad you said something, it lets me know I am heading the right direction. It also tells me there is more power to be had with the motor as I haven't really even begun to tune the bike. I have been running the timing the same all year long as well as the jetting in an effort to not hurt the motor and to work out any other issues, such as shifting. Now that most of those are taken care of I can really start going after the tuning and get this bike to make some power.
I am optimistic of the potential the bike has after learning yesterday the tune is off in the bike and the fact that I ran a decent number at 168 mph at El Mirage on a terrible pass due to the shifting problems. I feel that I am getting closer and that soon I should have a bike that can be competitive.
Scott
Rchop 14th July 2008, 01:30 You're definintely going in the right direction Scott!! I can tell you that when you think you are going fast, you find out something else that can be tweeked to make you go faster. I started out around a 100mph on my first test run when my oil rings weren't working at all. Each run I made, I found a problem that would be fixed before the next run. I gained speed each time and after 5 records, I still have much more speed in the old R75. I am constantly learning, each time I run and will continue to go faster.
I want everybody to know that I have known Scott for quite a few years and have watched him progress from knowing nothing about motorcycles, to where he is now. He has always asked question after question trying to learn everything he can from a knowledgeable person without being a pest or acting arrogant as he learns everything he can. He will listen respectfully to everyone he talks to and take that information to make an informed decision about his questions. Scott has moved far ahead of most people I know in the motorcycle industry in a very short time.
The guys here and on the motorcyclist cafe' stepped up to the plate and helped Scott get ready for Bonneville and you should be proud to be a part of his endeavor. I know him personally and I can say that your money won't be wasted. We will all be proud to say..."I knew him when..."
Go fast Scotty and be safe!
isiahstites 14th July 2008, 04:29 Here is my cracked coil bracket.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2874.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2876.jpg
And the bastard jet that kept me from finishing the dyno runs.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2878.jpg
Here is the carb with no mounting bracket.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2880.jpg
And here it is with the new bracket to support the weight of the carb and to help with the vibration.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2888.jpg
New tach has been mounted in it's new location, wiring will be done later in the week.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2882.jpg
And as if things haven't been fun enough in the past week with the bike. My bike has dual plugs per head and the center one on both heads came out like this. I know use anti-sieze.......it's amazing because I own a tube of anti-sieze and I didn't use it and am going to pay the price.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2884.jpg
isiahstites 15th July 2008, 01:57 I want everybody to know that I have known Scott for quite a few years and have watched him progress from knowing nothing about motorcycles, to where he is now. He has always asked question after question trying to learn everything he can from a knowledgeable person without being a pest or acting arrogant as he learns everything he can. He will listen respectfully to everyone he talks to and take that information to make an informed decision about his questions. Scott has moved far ahead of most people I know in the motorcycle industry in a very short time.
The guys here and on the motorcyclist cafe' stepped up to the plate and helped Scott get ready for Bonneville and you should be proud to be a part of his endeavor. I know him personally and I can say that your money won't be wasted. We will all be proud to say..."I knew him when..."
Go fast Scotty and be safe!
AWWW.....SCHUCKS Randy........your making me blush!:banana:banadanc
isiahstites 19th July 2008, 07:04 After repairing everything on the bike after last weeks dyno run, I went back for more!!
The bike made some more power with some more carb changes. I still have not touched the timing, I should make a few more passes prior to Bonneville to dial in the timing and one more jetting change.
The final numbers were 128 hp and 101 ft lbs tq. I am pleased to say the least!! We were going to make one more pass to dial the A/F a bit more and on that pass I couldn't get from first to second, only to neutral and back to first. I was hoping to finish that pass as I felt it was going to put me at the 130 mark.
Here is why I couldn't shift.....this cast POS!
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So I bought a new shift arm from Al at American Sport Bike.
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I took the bike for a spin after the new arm was installed and I still couldn't get into second...........hmmmmmmmmmm..........time to open the primary up again. The metallic oil scared me..........
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The starter gear took a few thousands off of the shifter pawl lever.......
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Here is the problem, the snap ring holds the washer against the brass bushing which is held up to the back plate of the pawl.....my washer and snap ring were setting in the back of the machined hole in the cases not attached to the pawl shaft. Here is the pawl with the new parts installed and the old ones on the book.
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Here is where the pawls brash bushing slides into, the backplate is then bolted to the case via the two studs.
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THIS WAS MY SHIFTING PROBLEM ALL ALONG!! I am glad I found it on the dyno and not at Bonneville!!
While the primary was open I took the gear set out for some investigation to ensure everything was intact and in proper working order. I took it to a fellow racers shop for examination and a clean bill of health. All is well with the gear set with the exception of a little wear on the second gear dogs.
On a side note this Sunday's race at El Mirage was canceled due to standing water on the course. This weekend was going to be a final tuning pass for me prior to Bonneville. Now I will have to make my final check out pass on the Sept 14th at El Mirage and then we are off to Bonneville on the morning of the 15th.
I am glad all of this recent stuff has happened when it did, instead of at Bonneville.
Scott
isiahstites 22nd July 2008, 03:57 Got the transmission and primary all back together along with the new shift lever. Took the bike up the road yesterday and as soon as I shifted into second I knew my problems were gone. I had no problems from 1st-5th, I think this problem is behind me now.
Scott
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isiahstites 23rd July 2008, 04:32 After dinner this evening I decided to tear down the top end to check everything out and to repair the center spark plug thread on each head as well as properly index the plugs prior to going to Bonneville.
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Here is the rear head, everything looks good to me but, what do I know! I expected more carbon build up, it is minimal.
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Here is the front cylinder and piston, looks like all of my measurements for piston to valve clearance were correct. The eyebrow indent you see was from when these pistons were in another motor and I needed pistons for Bonneville last year.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2931.jpg
Here is the rear cylinder. Anyone know what that weird spot in the middle of the piston is??
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2936.jpg
Rchop 24th July 2008, 23:51 Looking good Scott.:)
Rchop 24th July 2008, 23:54 Don't mind me, I just need this last post to be able to start postin pics :banarasta:banarasta
isiahstites 25th July 2008, 01:56 Don't mind me, I just need this last post to be able to start postin pics :banarasta:banarasta
I see how you are.......just using me.........
snowman 25th July 2008, 01:59 Geez, you salt guys are all alike...:geek:geek:geek
And none of you live down the street from me either...:wtf
isiahstites 25th July 2008, 02:01 Geez, you salt guys are all alike...:geek:geek:geek
What do you mean?
funnythebunny 25th July 2008, 02:21 uhhh, that stain is from someone being too excited about racing?
Rchop 25th July 2008, 03:14 I see how you are.......just using me.........
Hey buddy, what goes around, comes around. You learned my job for 4 years, now it's my turn to pick your brain on Buell motors. LOL
isiahstites 15th August 2008, 03:27 After taking some time of to spend with my new baby girl Sienna I am back to work! Bonneville is a month away and I want to be ready in advance.
I chased the threads of the two bad spark plug holes and this is what I got out of one of them. It appears worse than it was and the plug threads in smoothly now and is rock solid. These holes will be getting time serts next year when I tear the motor down to check tolerances.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_3066.jpg
Plugs indexed
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I didn't forget the anti-sieze this time.
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I also started the oil bleed-off.........here is the pump in stock form.
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And here it is with bleed-off partially installed.
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I have the motor back together and will continue to button everything up.
This was donated to me and will help a lot with the tuning of the bike. I can now install the data logging system.
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I have also been beefing up on my gear....
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More to come later......
Bruce 16th August 2008, 12:15 Hey Scott, Glad to see you getting some bugs worked out. It's a never ending process, fix one,find another. What are you hoping to gain with the oil bleed-off set up on the oil pump? Good luck my friend and ride safe. Semper Fi.
isiahstites 16th August 2008, 13:41 Hey Scott, Glad to see you getting some bugs worked out. It's a never ending process, fix one,find another. What are you hoping to gain with the oil bleed-off set up on the oil pump? Good luck my friend and ride safe. Semper Fi.
A little extra power and to stop any wet sumping that may be happening.
Scott
BWP 5p 17th August 2008, 00:39 Are you getting anxious yet?!?!?!?!?!
How you doing for Cash?
Be honest.....we'll beat the drums again if we need to!:)
isiahstites 17th August 2008, 00:50 Are you getting anxious yet?!?!?!?!?!
How you doing for Cash?
Be honest.....we'll beat the drums again if we need to!:)
Nope, I am not anxious yet......that won't happen until I can actually see the salt.
Honestly I am doing good on cash and feel I have plenty to take care of the room and board, fuel, food and any extras that I may or may not need. So again a big thanks to all who have helped me try and reach my goal. It is less than one month away.
Scott
Dakin Engineering 17th August 2008, 13:45 See ya in a one month!
Sam
isiahstites 17th August 2008, 16:27 See ya in a one month!
Sam
I know we are getting close........hows your bike coming along??
Scott
Dakin Engineering 18th August 2008, 01:47 Ready to rock. Fabing the front fender mounts now.
Put the fairing on to check clearance; 1.75".
APS/PBX or A/PBX got it covered. ;)
Sam
Narley 18th August 2008, 05:53 What event are you guys heading to?
isiahstites 18th August 2008, 06:31 What event are you guys heading to?
We will be attending the USFRA event starting September 17th and ending on the 20th.
Scott
isiahstites 31st August 2008, 05:01 Bonneville is two weeks away and I am have a hard time getting stuff done because of the new lady in my life. She is amazing and I have been having a hard time making it out into the garage.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Sienna%20Jay/100_3119.jpg
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Today I realized that I need to get my ass in gear and get this bike done........I have a lot to do in a short period, however I am excited about making one last El Mirage shakedown run and then off to Bonneville to see what this bike really has in her!
Here is the finished bypass system and oil line re-routing.
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I had some extra line left over so I used it to protect the ignition wires as they travel up in between the cylinders.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_3090.jpg
Next thing to repair was the broken motor/coil bracket. Here the old tabs have been cut off and prepped for the new supports.
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Here the new tabs have been welded on..........my tig welding is getting better.
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The finished bracket........this one shouldn't crack.
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Next was to cut the front fairing to allow me to get my head all of the way down. Here it is cut after being taped off for a border line to follow.
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Finished.......
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Next up was to install a mount to hold the data logger. I cut a plate to the size of the logger and bent a piece of sheet metal for a mount so the bolts would be recessed.
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After I spot welded the pieces together I drilled holes just big enough for the threads to go through the plate so I could drill the holes in the mount without having to mark them.
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Welded up
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I then drilled out larger holes in the top plate so the bolts would be recessed below the plate so the logger could sit flush.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_3151.jpg
No I can see the logger while riding along with the tach without taking my eyes off of the course.
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Next I had to cover the battery posts. This was brought to my attention by a friend by the name of Stainless a few months back. Since I will be racing on the salt with no separation between the tire and the battery I needed to add something to cover the battery posts as salt is conductive and we don't need any shorts due to excessive salt build up on the battery. I made they little boxes to cover the posts......I put a water bottle cap next to one of the boxes so you could see the actual size.
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I then welded them to the battery cover and repainted.
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Installed
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BWP 5p 31st August 2008, 05:18 Go Scotty....GO!!!!!:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap
waspkid 31st August 2008, 06:04 Hey Scotty, thats quite a distraction you've got there. Those big blue eyes are going to be keeping you busy for a long time. Congrats man, she's gorgeous. I can't even remember my two teenage daughters being that size.
Ride Fast!
Bruce 1st September 2008, 13:57 Beautiful daughter Scott, Spend all the time you can with her, they grow up fast. Cover you battery posts with grease also, it will help with keeping the salt out. Good luck.
gearhead1972 4th September 2008, 01:50 looking good Scott. Your welding is looking good. looks like you need to hang at the very end of your weave to let the puddle build a little more.
snowman 4th September 2008, 01:57 God Speed there Bro!!!!
But as cool as that bike is, there's no greater gift than this:
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