Ok, a new thread to talk about leather jackets. Creep's HD jacket thread was starting to get hijacked.

I really like the looks of the one Padre mentioned. How does that one rate on the list of characteristics that Kev posted for a good jacket?

Actually, if you are going to pay that kind of money, you might want to consider the original motorcycle jacket, the Schott Perfecto.

http://www.schottnyc.com/motorcycle-leathers/classic-perfecto-leather-motorcycle-jacket.htm

So lets talk about leather jackets. I haven't purchased one yet beecause it's such an expensive investment. This is what I have been wearing:
http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/images/products/50-9658Lg.jpg
http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=50-9658 I have it in yellow though.

From the other thread


My GUESS is this.... I'm NOT convinced it is an actual motorcycle jacket from the crash side of things.

I'm sure the leather is relatively heavy... it has some zippers and snaps and a belt to help keep it in place. But the stitching would be my question.

I emailed them for you the following inquiry

"I’m considering purchasing one of your jackets.

Can you tell me what measures you have taken in construction of the jacket to help protect a motorcyclist in the event of a crash or off.

Thickness of the material, types and amount of stitching? Is the jacket reinforced in some measure to keep it from coming apart in the event of a slide?

Regards,"


IF the stitching is not reinforced in some way, I'd say it is on par with Wilson's "biker" stuff... MAYBE as good as some of the Harley stuff.

But it certainly doesn't seem to have vents, armor, waterproofing etc etc etc.

K

KC,

What's your reason for wanting another jacket?

I ask because I currently have

a Hein Gerike Leather Jacket and 2 Aerostich Darien Jackets (I got one as a free sample when writing the motorcycle book)...

in the past I've had stuff from Harley (leather) and the flea market/mall stuff.. I gave that all away.

I keep the Hein Gerike around, cause sometimes it's just nice to wear a leather jacket, BUT I honestly NEVER wear it... I mean, like ONCE A YEAR is a lot.

I'm not saying NOT to buy one, just warning you that IF you dig the textile stuff, you MIGHT find that you never wear the leather stuff much.

K

I started with the textile one because I got a great deal on it. I paid $89 for it. I do like the jacket I have and I think it's a good 'motorcycle' jacket because of the leather reinforced shoulders and elbows. I guess I was just thinking that a full leather jacket would be safer?

I started with the textile one because I got a great deal on it. I paid $89 for it. I do like the jacket I have and I think it's a good 'motorcycle' jacket because of the leather reinforced shoulders and elbows. I guess I was just thinking that a full leather jacket would be safer?

You would be correct...

If you're nervous about quality, look into something local that you can actually try on.....

Look for double-stitching, and heavy leather....

check these guys out. super expensive but heirloom quality.
http://langlitz.com/

paulie

I looked at jackets for two years and finally bought a Harley FXRG. Even at 30% off on sale from Spirit H-D here in Pittsburgh, it cost $350.

It fits, it's armored, it's well made, it looks good. I don't know if it's the best but it's damn good and I like it. It could use a few more pockets, though...

I couldn't wear it in the height of summer, although it has two front vents. It was great this fall and it has a zip in liner that is going in today since snow is forecast for tomorrow.

From the other thread


My GUESS is this.... I'm NOT convinced it is an actual motorcycle jacket from the crash side of things.

I'm sure the leather is relatively heavy... it has some zippers and snaps and a belt to help keep it in place. But the stitching would be my question.

I emailed them for you the following inquiry

"I’m considering purchasing one of your jackets.

Can you tell me what measures you have taken in construction of the jacket to help protect a motorcyclist in the event of a crash or off.

Thickness of the material, types and amount of stitching? Is the jacket reinforced in some measure to keep it from coming apart in the event of a slide?

Regards,"


IF the stitching is not reinforced in some way, I'd say it is on par with Wilson's "biker" stuff... MAYBE as good as some of the Harley stuff.

But it certainly doesn't seem to have vents, armor, waterproofing etc etc etc.

K

I hope you get an answer quickly!

Also, there are many Harley jackets I have been looking at that have no armor, have only single stitching and the leather seems a little on the "light" side.

KC,

I bought a HD leather jacket. I don't know the model/name, but got it when I picked up the bike.

It's really heavy duty leather, perforated in the front with zip out panels, and has armor in the elbows and shoulders. It has the mandarin collar and an extended back area that covers you when you lean over the bars. Pockets on the outside w/zippers, 2 on the inside with zippers.

I really like mine KC, but it wasn't cheap. I think I paid about 325-350 for it.

I have the HD fastback leather jacket. Very "old-school" race looking - medium grain leather, zip out liner, mandirin collar, 2 zippered vents, weatherproofed leather, action back, 2-way fron zipper. Really awsome jacket - if HD makes anything good (besides bikes) it's leather jackets. Mine wasn't cheap either, however, around $390.

I haven't bought one of these yet, but I am considering it. The company is close to me, and will allow me to come see how they make them, tour, etc...Stopped in there one Saturday and got a look around, seemed like a nice family run business. And I guess you can take their on-line testimonials how you want as you read them, I'm sure they wouldn't post any complaints they might have gotten.

http://www.foxcreekleather.com

Seems to be good, but a little pricey, gear.

The H-D jackets are very attractive but you may be giving up some in protection. They are quite stylish though (especially womens). I wear a Vanson when I'm racing (has the re-moveable armor, well padded, and is pretty pricey). Otherwise its a plain premium biker jacket for me. Plenty of good jackets out there without paying Vanson money or H-D money. You do get what you pay for usually! Look for something at least 2 oz. in weight and double stitched (quality thread) in a style you like. Anything thinner won't take much of a hit. Anything much thicker and it will be a fall and winter jacket only, unless you like to roast, even with vents. You will want to be able to seal out the wind, so it should seal around the waist and hands, without choking you at speed. The bike shows are good for fitment and usually a large selection for the ladies, decent pricing, but total overall quality may be a concern. If buying for looks get the one ya like that you think looks the best for your money (regardless of brand). If buying for protection ask somebody who wrecks em; road racers; rice riders; etc., the more wrecks they have walked away from the better the jacket maybe!
Ride to Live!

You would be correct...

If you're nervous about quality, look into something local that you can actually try on.....

Look for double-stitching, and heavy leather....

I absolutely disagree.

Both testing and personal experience have shown that most modern textile jackets provide as good protection as the average street leather jacket or better.

YES, race quality leathers are probably superior to textile for race track speeds, but for street use textiles from Aerostich, Joe Rocket, Tecknic etc offer comparable or even better protection (certainly better protection than leather jackets which lack body armor).

More importantly, here's the answer from Schott's customer service. A good sign that they are willing to put it in writing and do so, so quickly


Dear Kevin,
As a company that was the first company to actually manufacturer a motorcycle jacket our main objective is the protection of the rider. All our Perfecto jackets are constructed of the 3 oz. weight and 1.2-1.4mm in thickness of leather. The leather is very durable and construction is of te highest quality.
We have receive letters from riders that state because they had our jacket on they were saved from a more serious injury. We have replaced sleeves, front and back panels, where riders had hit the payment. While the leather was marred, it did not tear allowing flesh to be exposed. Most of of serious riders still have their original Perfect jacket, many over 20 years old or more. Our company has been written up in numerous magazine articles for our jackets workmanship, durability and styling. I am sure you would be pleased with the quality of our jacket.
Regards,
Gail Hawkins

I looked at jackets for two years and finally bought a Harley FXRG. Even at 30% off on sale from Spirit H-D here in Pittsburgh, it cost $350.

It fits, it's armored, it's well made, it looks good. I don't know if it's the best but it's damn good and I like it. It could use a few more pockets, though...

I couldn't wear it in the height of summer, although it has two front vents. It was great this fall and it has a zip in liner that is going in today since snow is forecast for tomorrow.

I would say it's probably one of the BEST jackets made for Harley... and among the better jackets on the market.

This is a really good price on a Shovelhead made by Harley

http://www.fritzshd.com/dlrindexsend_pg_catprod_levelcode_6640_catalogcode _810_partheadernumber_67300-Shovelhead+Jacket.htm

Schotts have to be one of the best quality jackets I have ever seen. I can afford one but mabey one day I will get one.

That being said...

Im lookin at a new leather jacket but I may stick with my tried and true textiles cause ol Joe Rocket hasnt let me down yet. I like the lighter weight and low maintenance of textiles. Plus you usually get alot of air vents and pockets for you thingy muwoppers and doohickys...and for the uber trendy IPODS.

I shop @ newenough.com. Great deals and theys from TEXAS...where everything is better.

Adios

Schotts MAY have very high quality leather... and certainly I'm impressed with their quick CSR responses to my inquirires... I emailed them back to ask about stitching... this is their response


Kevin,
The average on a single stitch top sew manchine for leather is 6-7 stitches per inche. We use a Tex 60 cotton core wrapped dual duty thread for all leather stitching and a Tex 40 for all lining threads.
Regards,
Gail Hawkins

Unfortunately that doesn't mean anything to me... any stitching experts out there???

And, even so, they still don't seem to address things like vents and body armor...

All I can say is I've crashed without body armor and WITH... and I REALLY prefer WITH... ouch...

K

While we're on the subject of jackets, etc. let me relate to you my recent
experience with www.Leatherup.com-I saw a recent posting lauding the experience some had with this company-Based on this I have in vain tried for two days now to purchase a jacket and some boots over the internet-At first I was told their system was having problems with Discover cards and if I would orderthe next day all would be ok- I just made three calls to Leatherup to try and procure those items-I have been told three different stories as to why my order could'nt be processed-After asking to speak to a manager or someone actually in charge I was told nothing could be done-Not give a reason- Any way, based on my experience you want to give a second thought about dealing with these folks-
NS5P

I had similar problems trying to spend money with them (Leatherup). I use www.bransonwholesale.com for economy leather products with no problems.
Think I would prefer to pay a little extra to try it on before I buy a jacket. Have never heard anything bad, only good things about Foxcreek leather. Never owned one of their jackets. I have seen some Vanson wholesale pricing on the web that looked in the 250-300 range but it has been a little while.
Live to Ride!

check these guys out. super expensive but heirloom quality.
http://langlitz.com/

paulie


They are local for me,I hope to afford a set someday:rolleyes:
Definately about as good as it gets.

They are local for me,I hope to afford a set someday:rolleyes:
Definately about as good as it gets.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeit

On the FAQs it addresses the question of cost by NOT addressing the cost!

I guess if you have to ask you can afford it.

Adios

Originally Posted by famousperson
I looked at jackets for two years and finally bought a Harley FXRG. Even at 30% off on sale from Spirit H-D here in Pittsburgh, it cost $350.

It fits, it's armored, it's well made, it looks good. I don't know if it's the best but it's damn good and I like it. It could use a few more pockets, though...

I couldn't wear it in the height of summer, although it has two front vents. It was great this fall and it has a zip in liner that is going in today since snow is forecast for tomorrow.

Originally posted by Kev M
I would say it's probably one of the BEST jackets made for Harley... and among the better jackets on the market.
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I have to agree. I'm not into the big MoCo logos, I ride a Harley!:p But I shelled out the bucks for the FXRG Midweight Leather Jacket and I wear it everyday commuting and like it. The CE armour isn't too bulky and the liner is great for cold 30's and rain. I get enough ventilation for the summer temps around here 80's. The only problems I've had are a snap on the collar and zipper lanyard broke. No big deal, came with spare snap parts and I used a small line for the zipper lanyard.
My Joe Rocket and Fieldsheer textile jackets just take up closet space. Only thing about the textile jackets is they do have reflective patches and piping for night riding, if you want to be seen.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeit

On the FAQs it addresses the question of cost by NOT addressing the cost!

I guess if you have to ask you can afford it.

Adios

Lol...that's about it :D typicaly a set (jacket and pants) of Langlitz Leathers will run about $1500.
They are custom built to fit and are of the highest quality materials and workmanship available anywhere bar non.
They even buy back used Langlitz Leathers and recondition them for resale from what I hear.
Here's some Langlitz stuff on ebay..........

http://search.ebay.com//search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=Langlitz

Draggin Jeans just sent me an email about a sale - leather jackets for $150.

Anyone interested, check out their website.

http://www.dragginjeans.com/

Cheers,

Brett

I am very happy with my Fox Creek leather jacket and overpants. I have a textile jacket that Ducati sells that is lighter and has armour, but I feel more protected in the leather-though over 80 degrees its pretty warm even with the liner out. But I still wear the leather.

Okay, just got the catalog that I requested from Langlitz Leathers.

Basic jacket (Columbia) = $850.00
Pocket Columbia = $1035.00
Padded Pocket Columbia = $1095.00

Cascade = $750.00

Belt is an extra $60.00
Thinsulate lining = $40.00
Epaulets = $40.00

Vest with laced sides = $300.00

there are many Harley jackets I have been looking at that have no armor, have only single stitching and the leather seems a little on the "light" side.

remember, hd does make a line of jackets for styling... they call them 'after the ride'.. those will not protect you (much) in case of a dismount.... their actual riding jackets are pretty good quality though. in my area, they are even competitive with the other options.

Okay, just got the catalog that I requested from Langlitz Leathers.

Basic jacket (Columbia) = $850.00
Pocket Columbia = $1035.00
Padded Pocket Columbia = $1095.00



Yeah,, I got that catalogue, too. Nice looking stuff, but I'd rather keep my Harley jacket and buy goodies for the bike.

I have a textile jacket that Ducati sells that is lighter and has armour, but I feel more protected in the leather-though over 80 degrees its pretty warm even with the liner out. But I still wear the leather.

Though I'm sure full on racing leathers are more protective for ultra-high-speed get-offs... Aerostich did drag till they break tests years ago and showed that decent textile jackets offer as much realistic protection as most people would ever need on the street.

I remember one particular 20 mph slide on my belly years ago... my Aerostich barely got scuff marks on it.

K

I have one from Fox Creek Leather. It's been a great jacket so far. It came with armour and has a removeable liner. Also has vent zippers and lots of pockets. It's very heavy. I have chaps from them also. Their sizing on the chaps and jackets were great!!