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stevo
13th January 2005, 11:14
G'day ALL

Here's a link to a motorcycle based accident study


http://www.mcnews.com.au/NewsArchives/2004/maids.htm

txsporty
13th January 2005, 12:25
Interesting Read Stevo!! :D

stevo
13th January 2005, 13:02
bet ya it don't stop 'em from increasing speeding fines tho......

speed kills..............wot a load of hot %^&&**.....................................

if speed kills then how come I don't die when I do 140+mph down the drag strip???????????

inattentive drivers/riders ....................kill
Not riding/drivin for the conditions.........kill
Untrained/inexperienced drivers/riders....kill

willprevale
13th January 2005, 14:35
A secondary contributing factor was found to be that motorcyclists made a number of faulty decisions in relation to the choice of collision avoidance strategy.

It's an old song but I'll sing it again. The MSF/RES courses teach accident avoidance strategies. With the proper knowledge, potential accidents can turn into non events.

stevo
13th January 2005, 23:41
Yeah I'm with ya there

I've ben ridin for 20 years and have only hit one car......many near misses but my dad taught me to read ahead (he was a cop) and I have a racin background which teaches real well how ta get outa the way.

The one that got me I nearly avoided but he turned and then stopped in the middle of the bloody road when he saw me, I'd already changed my position on the road twice by then to get around him but I didn't count on him stopping....... sooner or later ya the law of averages is gonna catch up with ya and there is MANY VERY average drivers out there.

Darhawk
14th January 2005, 00:46
All this does is further the fact that no matter what it is you ride or drive, the operator must contiually be aware of his or her surroundings.........anticipate, anticipate, anticipate, anticipate.................

Many moons ago I took a auto driving course designed for state troopers conducted outside Boston, and recently I took the MSF course. Both stressed the same thing..........observe and think ahead........this puts you into an avoidance frame of mind. The same training was taught to receive my concealed weapon license.....80% of the training was focused on your knowing your surroundings, anticipating someone's move, and avoiding use of the weapon.

stevo
14th January 2005, 00:52
Best form of defense is not to be there when the punch is thrown ;)

I prefer to read the play on the road or where ever and not be where the problems are.....sometimes ya can't avoid it tho...

Darhawk
14th January 2005, 01:07
.....sometimes ya can't avoid it tho...
Very true............but being ready for it, all the same, helps put the advantage to your favor.

Desertfox
14th January 2005, 01:08
bet ya it don't stop 'em from increasing speeding fines tho......

speed kills..............wot a load of hot %^&&**.....................................

if speed kills then how come I don't die when I do 140+mph down the drag strip???????????

inattentive drivers/riders ....................kill
Not riding/drivin for the conditions.........kill
Untrained/inexperienced drivers/riders....kill



That's true. Speed doesn't kill. It's that sudden stop that's a bitch. :eek:

crackers
14th January 2005, 01:23
if speed kills then why are there road races???

one should drive/ride within the limitations of the vehicle, factor the conditions of the enviroment and within your experience.

sure mick doohan could go around the corner on a fireblade at 200kph
me on my sporty, yeah i'd probably die trying!

i just wish road users (including bicycles, skateboards, pedestrians) would use their http://xlforum.net/forums/images/smilies/censored.gif head.

cheers
crackers

alleydude
14th January 2005, 02:01
A secondary contributing factor was found to be that motorcyclists made a number of faulty decisions in relation to the choice of collision avoidance strategy.



Hmmmmmm... AVOID the objects. Now THAT'S what I'm doing wrong. :yikes

GRAYFEATHER
17th January 2005, 12:09
Sportys are still stable at 180kpm :yikes no room for error though,pick you road and be aware.

:tour

stevo
17th January 2005, 13:12
yeah Ken... watch out for target fixation.......don't LOOK at the bin...or you'll bin it..

Wizwill
4th February 2005, 02:04
Yeah I'm with ya there

I've ben ridin for 20 years and have only hit one car......many near misses but my dad taught me to read ahead (he was a cop) and I have a racin background which teaches real well how ta get outa the way.

The one that got me I nearly avoided but he turned and then stopped in the middle of the bloody road when he saw me, I'd already changed my position on the road twice by then to get around him but I didn't count on him stopping....... sooner or later ya the law of averages is gonna catch up with ya and there is MANY VERY average drivers out there.

I dropped/laid one down many years ago when a driver pulled out from a side street on my left, across the lane of oncoming traffic, stopping with the front end of her car about halfway in my lane. I grabbed front brake and swerved to the right. She lurched forward a few more feet then stopped a second time, her front end mostly blocking the lane in front of me. I grabbed more front brake and swerved a little bit more to the right which was a little too much. The bike went down on the left side and I hung on, not wanting to give her two targets to miss as she insanely continued on across the street. I got a lot of major road rash and some major damage to the bike, but I didn't get run over. My head DID hit a piece of railroad track stuck in the ground as a "protector" for a light pole that had evidently been the target of earlier altercations at that intersection.

The fact I was wearing a helmet saved my head that day, which is why I always wear one today. The fact that I DIDN'T have a jacket on is why got the road rash, and that's why always wear one of those today, too.