Having decided that I will be riding the scoot all winter (barring rain, snow or ice!), I've been getting some better riding apparel together. I bought some chaps, better gloves and a full face helmet.

All I can say is, after wearing it (the full face helmet)...it sure makes for a DIFFERENT feeling while riding. I was afraid that it would impede my vision and, it does a little bit. Thankfully, not as much as I had feared it would.

Hopefully, I'll get used to it pretty quickly. Though it was a lot warmer here to day (52F) than it has been (low 30's), I can tell the morning comute is going to be a lot nicer with this new helmet...:tour

Yeah, it is different, but for the winter time you can't beat it! I normally ride with a half helmet, but when winter rolls around I put on my trusty fullface. It really cuts down on the wind, but with my bike it is louder because I hear more of my exhaust. On really cold days, you will still need to make sure that your neck and face are protected, even with the fullface on as the wind still gets up underneath it. Even though it is just a little bit, temps in the teens and twentys can really be felt after riding a distance. :)

After riding in the rain for 5 hrs on sunday in a open helmet i to am going to get a full face helmet for the winter months

I love my FF...

Yeah, it is different, but for the winter time you can't beat it! I normally ride with a half helmet, but when winter rolls around I put on my trusty fullface. It really cuts down on the wind, but with my bike it is louder because I hear more of my exhaust. On really cold days, you will still need to make sure that your neck and face are protected, even with the fullface on as the wind still gets up underneath it. Even though it is just a little bit, temps in the teens and twentys can really be felt after riding a distance. :)

I didn't notice an increase in noise until I got inside the parking garage at work. Man, at certain RPMS the resonant noise is up there a bit!

I also picked up a neck thingy...a tube that slides over your head and covers the neck. Hopefully, that will be enough to keep me smilin'! :smoke

I normally ride without a helmet, just a doo-rag when it's warm or stocking cap when cooler, but do have an Arai full-face for rain or cold. Impact883 is right. Look into getting a balaclava (ninja hood) and a neck warmer to protect the lower face and neck.

The only bad thing about wearing full faced is the noise. I even wear earplugs when I have my helmet on but nevertheless it beats riding with my bald head in the rain

Has anyone else ever had this happen to them with a full-face helmet?

I was going for a ride several weeks ago, it was early in the day, I was well-rested and jazzed for a ride.

After about 20 miles of county roads....I started yawning....5 more miles, and I actually caught myself NODDING!!!!

I stopped before the interstate, and put my 1/2 helmet on...woke me right up...never had an issue with it the rest of the day....

I WAS NOT tired...all of my vents were open, yet, I suspect that I was not getting enough fresh air....

I haven't worn my full since...and I doubt I ever will...

Probably goes on ebay in the Spring...

I got a Hoodlum, head sock sort of. Was at a metric dealer last week, a friend of mine bought a Zuzuki Boulevard C50, they had a full face [HJC I think] that the front flips up with the shield. I think I may get one for the winter, I haven't ever had a full face cause I don't like putting them on. This one goes on like my 3/4. Anyone tried one?

I got a Hoodlum, head sock sort of. Was at a metric dealer last week, a friend of mine bought a Zuzuki Boulevard C50, they had a full face [HJC I think] that the front flips up with the shield. I think I may get one for the winter, I haven't ever had a full face cause I don't like putting them on. This one goes on like my 3/4. Anyone tried one?

That's the one I have....HCI...in black....

Never nodded off while wearing a full face...

I wear a full face on ocassion; when the termperature is just around freezing, and in driving rain. Those are the only times. I don't like wearing a full face, and I have these reasons:

- I feel less vulnerable wearing one, and hence more wreckless; not part of the environment around me.
- I do believe that one has a higher chance of getting into an accident when wearing one. There is something to be said about making eye contact with car drivers.. and I think there is psychology in our favour when a car driver sees a human face with that bike.

So, 90% of the time I wear the half helmet; it make me more cautious, the wind and coolness keep me awake and sharp, and I just enjoy the sights and smells all that more.

That said, however, the full face extends the season for me by another month of riding, so I make the compromise at this time of year.

Has anyone else ever had this happen to them with a full-face helmet?

I was going for a ride several weeks ago, it was early in the day, I was well-rested and jazzed for a ride.

After about 20 miles of county roads....I started yawning....5 more miles, and I actually caught myself NODDING!!!!

I stopped before the interstate, and put my 1/2 helmet on...woke me right up...never had an issue with it the rest of the day....

I WAS NOT tired...all of my vents were open, yet, I suspect that I was not getting enough fresh air....

I haven't worn my full since...and I doubt I ever will...

Probably goes on ebay in the Spring...

Can't say I have ever had this problem. I have yawned some but never felt tired or caught myself nodding, even after a LONG ride. I know this sounds kind of dorky :roflblack , but try wearing it while doing some work around the house or in the yard. See if you find yourself nodding off then. I have to wonder if it might be due to sounds (like white noise) lulling you to sleep while riding that you won't hear while working, or different sounds while in your half helmet?

Another thing is that you might be breathing differently (more shallow) in an attempt to minimize fogging of your face shield. I noticed I was doing that in cold weather (And that would make me yawn!). Thats why I added a FogCity insert to my FF helmet which has helped a lot. :)

Another thing is that you might be breathing differently (more shallow) in an attempt to minimize fogging of your face shield. I

That is an EXCELLENT notion...

I'll give that some active thought late this fall if I'm forced to wear it...

Right now, I have a good sized windshield, and a velcro-strapped leather face mask that I use...

Thanx for the thoughts.....

Having decided that I will be riding the scoot all winter (barring rain, snow or ice!), I've been getting some better riding apparel together. I bought some chaps, better gloves and a full face helmet.

All I can say is, after wearing it (the full face helmet)...it sure makes for a DIFFERENT feeling while riding. I was afraid that it would impede my vision and, it does a little bit. Thankfully, not as much as I had feared it would.

Hopefully, I'll get used to it pretty quickly. Though it was a lot warmer here to day (52F) than it has been (low 30's), I can tell the morning comute is going to be a lot nicer with this new helmet...:tour

I really miss the 'open air' feel of my half helmet. But, the benefits of the FF seem to outweigh it for me. I love the sound of big bugs smacking the full face....:smoke

Also, I find that mine CUTS noise, not increases noise. I hear a big difference (louder) when I go back to the half.

Halmets are mandatory in CA and my wife and I both wear HJC SY-Max FF helmets (www.hjchelmets.com). This helmet has the movable chin bar, which is really handy when you are just gassing up or just stopping for a few minutes. It's also easier to put on and take off than a standard FF.

Oh MRS. ANTOLINA...

If Chuck decides to mow the lawn or sit at the computer or anything like that while wearing his helmet to test his breathing, please, PLEASE, PLEASE snap a pic and share it with us!

I'm almost certain we'd even be willing to take up a collection to be sent to the paypal account of your choice for such a picture. Likely you could make a tidy sum off of Stevo and Gary alone.







:D

I got a Hoodlum, head sock sort of. Was at a metric dealer last week, a friend of mine bought a Zuzuki Boulevard C50, they had a full face [HJC I think] that the front flips up with the shield. I think I may get one for the winter, I haven't ever had a full face cause I don't like putting them on. This one goes on like my 3/4. Anyone tried one?

The one I bought is a Fulmer AFM Modus, which the front flips up on.

All I can say is, after wearing it (the full face helmet)...it sure makes for a DIFFERENT feeling while riding. I was afraid that it would impede my vision and, it does a little bit. Thankfully, not as much as I had feared it would.



I take issue with the "impede" part... sure it cuts down on what you can see on your gas tank and maybe your knees.

It DEFINTELY feels different... and I don't enjoy it nearly as much as my open face.

BUT, I don't think it reduces your peripheral vision or in any way "impedes" what you can see of the road and drivers.

I wear mine (Arai) if I know for certain it's gonna rain... or when temps are in the 40s or below.

It totally rocks for cold or foul weather.

Otherwise gimmie and open face.


K

Also, I find that mine CUTS noise, not increases noise. I hear a big difference (louder) when I go back to the half.

I love the "airy" feeling of the half helmet, too.

Yeah, things are louder with a half helmet on. Just the wind noise is enough to cause some hearing loss.

I always wear a FF helmet. The only thing I hate is zooming down the road and feeling a sneeze coming on!

Always wore a full face helmet, mainly due to the weather, but recently got open face and I love it. Riding is totally different with it on. Feels as though I am more involved!

But I do find both my FF's are much, much quieter than open, one was my first helmet Vemar, other is an Arai, much more expensive, but so comfortable and worth every penny.

Certainly never felt tired or sleepy wearing FF. However I did read an article recently about car's and that they have found that that many of the chemical's used in foam, padding, glue's etc can have a direct effect on the body, may be something to do with that!

Far too cold for open face now, but can't wait till summer comes round again, so I can get that involved feeling back. :tour

I take issue with the "impede" part... sure it cuts down on what you can see on your gas tank and maybe your knees.

It DEFINTELY feels different... and I don't enjoy it nearly as much as my open face.

BUT, I don't think it reduces your peripheral vision or in any way "impedes" what you can see of the road and drivers.
K

Maybe your head twists around farther than mine does! :roflblack

Maybe your head twists around farther than mine does! :roflblack

I'm pretty sure some people think I can make it spin all the way around while projectile vommiting :roflblack

But alas, I'm talking about peripheral vision...:shhhh

K

The only bad thing about wearing full faced is the noise. I even wear earplugs when I have my helmet on but nevertheless it beats riding with my bald head in the rain
A full coverage helmet should be alot quiter if it's not you bought the wrong helmet. Alot of times the price has alot to do with it, but not always. Before you buy a ff helmet read some reviews and see what people have to say about noise levels of different brands and price ranges. You don't have to pay $300 to $600 to get a good quite helmet. On the other hand you will have to pay about $140 and up. Plus when you get up to that price range most have anti fog devices built in, better venting, better sheilds, and removeable liners that can be washed.:tour

I'm pretty sure some people think I can make it spin all the way around while projectile vommiting :roflblack

But alas, I'm talking about peripheral vision...:shhhh

K

I just felt like I had to twist farther around to check for cagers when changing lanes. I had to twist my upper body instead of just my head.

I've only ridden a few miles...maybe I'll change my mind after I've worn it a while...

Hey DM-SC,
Glad to hear it. I think the cool weather rides will be much more pleasurable.
I have found turning your head completely with the full face adds to your peripheral vision at intersections, blind spots, etc (especially intersections at a weird angle). Some of this stuff you can see a little better with the open helmets with out turning your head as far. Just my opinion. When I wear mine I am definately turning and looking more often, but not as to affect the ride. Nothing wrong with being more alert. As Kev stated rider forward vision gives up very little. Get some anti fog for the lense. I flip mine up at intersections and have also found as stated you can regulate some of the fogging with breathing and helmet placement as the helmets are only made one way and all heads are different. I have a few problems when my head is stopped up but I just ride away from stop and start traffic and I'm fine. Sounds like you bought a good one. I just look for the approval stickers DOT and Snell so I can use mine for racing. You will get used to the head turning and will have to use less body english to accomplish. The sound should be much less than an open helmet also. I think you will really enjoy it after a couple of cool weather trips. I only wear mine going fast (racing) and in the cold. I have a Simpson open faced that is light and comfy for most of my riding.
Ride to Live!

I just felt like I had to twist farther around to check for cagers when changing lanes. I had to twist my upper body instead of just my head.

I've only ridden a few miles...maybe I'll change my mind after I've worn it a while...


OK, one of my business partners just walked by my desk and gave me the WEIRDEST look... but he's learned not to ask.

So I'm sitting here with my full face helmet on and I'm pretty sure I can honestly say the I can JUST BARELY make out the left and right edges of the face plate...

meaning that I don't think there is realistically any vision being cut from the sides... at least nothing that matters.

Now who knows, it's POSSIBLE your FF helmet is narrower, but I doubt it cause there are too many lawyers and I don't think someone would produce a FF helmet that actually DID cut down on your vision in such a way that would make it a hazard.

So my guess is that just the fact that some small bit of your helmet opening is in your vision if you look up or down (and maybe, maybe, maybe a teeny-tiny bit to the extreme left and right) has now drawn your attention to that fact. And maybe you FEEL like you need to turn your upper body more than you do with your 3/4.

Yes, I do agree that your perception should change with familiarity.

Ride safe,

Kev

A full coverage helmet should be alot quiter if it's not you bought the wrong helmet. Alot of times the price has alot to do with it, but not always. Before you buy a ff helmet read some reviews and see what people have to say about noise levels of different brands and price ranges. You don't have to pay $300 to $600 to get a good quite helmet. On the other hand you will have to pay about $140 and up. Plus when you get up to that price range most have anti fog devices built in, better venting, better sheilds, and removeable liners that can be washed.:tour


Another factor to consider on a full face helmet is that it will USUALLY filter out some ranges of sound (high pitched in my experience) making it easier to hear other ranges of sound (lower pitched, like the exhaust) giving the illusion that the ranges it did not filter out are louder, when in fact, they are not actually louder, just relatively so.

K

OK, one of my business partners just walked by my desk and gave me the WEIRDEST look... but he's learned not to ask.

So I'm sitting here with my full face helmet on and I'm pretty sure I can honestly say the I can JUST BARELY make out the left and right edges of the face plate...

meaning that I don't think there is realistically any vision being cut from the sides... at least nothing that matters.

Now who knows, it's POSSIBLE your FF helmet is narrower, but I doubt it cause there are too many lawyers and I don't think someone would produce a FF helmet that actually DID cut down on your vision in such a way that would make it a hazard.

So my guess is that just the fact that some small bit of your helmet opening is in your vision if you look up or down (and maybe, maybe, maybe a teeny-tiny bit to the extreme left and right) has now drawn your attention to that fact. And maybe you FEEL like you need to turn your upper body more than you do with your 3/4.

Yes, I do agree that your perception should change with familiarity.

Ride safe,

Kev

:roflblack I've had to "model" mine for several of my co-workers this morning...

Used to wear a half.. Now it's always a full face. and won't go back.

I agree on the breathing suggestion. That's most likely it. HAd the same issue when I noticed my visor kept fogging up and feeling myself starving for oxygen because I was trying not to fog my visor. Fortunately being in my area I was able to just crack the visor a hair and no for problems.

Speaking of fogging...is there an anti-fogging product that really works well?

Wear one year round. Can't tell you how many hits the shield has taken from road debris. Often glad it's there. Vents in the shell help keep me cool in summer. The only time you will regret not having one is when you need it. It saved my bacon.

Speaking of fogging...is there an anti-fogging product that really works well?


Fog City fog shield... I can ride in 20-30 degree weather AND keep the shield closed the whole time. I don't have to hold my breath at an intersection or anything... I don't have to even crack the shield open.

Love it.

K

I have used a Fog City insert and it worked well. But on vacation one time, a dude talked the wife in to buying some Worley's Wonder (http://www.worleyswonderjewelrycleaner.com/) to clean her jewelry and sunglasses. I tried it one day on my shaving mirror and it worked like a charm, 20 minute shower and the mirror didn't think about fogging. So, on my next new FF helmet, I cleaned both the inside and outside of the visor once every 3 or 4 days (have to anyway to remove bug guts) and I can breath like a horny dog and it never steams up.

Also clean my mirrors, and they don't even fog up on these cold fall mornings. If you can find some local, it's worth a try. It supposedly doesn't have the abrasive chemicals in it that Windex and stuff does, I have used it for three years and have had no problems.

Good luck w/ the FF, as it's been said, you can't beat them in cool weather. I rode in to work this morning at 33F w/ a neoprene neck warmer and I was in great shape.

A full coverage helmet should be alot quiter if it's not you bought the wrong helmet. Alot of times the price has alot to do with it, but not always. Before you buy a ff helmet read some reviews and see what people have to say about noise levels of different brands and price ranges. You don't have to pay $300 to $600 to get a good quite helmet. On the other hand you will have to pay about $140 and up. Plus when you get up to that price range most have anti fog devices built in, better venting, better sheilds, and removeable liners that can be washed.:tour

A full face helmet attenuates high frequencies, but accentuates low frequencies...that's just the way they are....

A full face helmet attenuates high frequencies, but accentuates low frequencies...that's just the way they are....


Didn't I say that???

OK, I didn't use such fancy words, but I swear I said that :laugh

Speaking of fogging...is there an anti-fogging product that really works well?

Well - I really like my FogCity Hyper Optiks insert. It helps a lot. I also use Zooke Z Wax. It works well on everything. I put it on my glasses, I even put it on my mirrors so they don't frost or fog up on those cold mornings.

http://zooke.com/shop/catalog.php

You need to clean off then reapply the wax periodically.

Fog City fog shield... I can ride in 20-30 degree weather AND keep the shield closed the whole time. I don't have to hold my breath at an intersection or anything... I don't have to even crack the shield open.

Love it.

K

Ya - It helps me a lot - but its my prescription glasses that fog the most often now. I use Z-Wax on them and my mirrors.

:banana

Zero noise problems with my Shoei ZII. It was a little pricey but well worth it as I have no issues with it at all. I have this one and a hh but wear the ZII the majority of the time. It sure beats getting slammed in the face with flying objects! You will get used to it....now you need a quick detach windshield so you can comfortably wear that HH in the hot weather. :D

Ya - It helps me a lot - but its my prescription glasses that fog the most often now. I use Z-Wax on them and my mirrors.

:banana


that's a good point... I wear my contacts specifically for that reason!

K

My FF definately cuts into my peripheral vision, I've tried several kinds and have problems with all. The thing is also heavy and I find my neck muscles getting tired quicker. I wear it only when I have to. I did some lidless riding in FL this season (I know it's not smart) but what a different experience that was. It's no wonder so many ride without. I felt WAY more aware of surroundings (probably because a pebble could kill me) but I felt sharp on all my senses. Needless to say I use my open face 3/4 99% of the time.

Last Friday I bought an HD Stealth modular full face helmet ($275.00, non-flame black). It is really very comfortable. It is fairly loud though, but I wear earplugs so it doesn't bother me at all.

I also bought a Zeus full face modular, for $89.00 from Trax Motorsports (free shipping.) It's definitely a step down from the HD, but it does the job quite nicely. And for that price, it's really a decent helmet. They are DOT, but not SNELL. It is quieter than the HD too. But the HD is more comfortable.

Anyone in need of some throw-around helmets should check out the Zeus helmets at Trax Motorsports (http://www.traxms.com/). Worth a look.

I got a HD Modular full face helmet. It was about 350 and I know i got ripped off. I saw the exact same one on another site for 125. Anyhow, i like it. It's comfy and fits well and i enjoy riding w/ it on the highway and in cold weather. The only gripe I have about the helmet is how heavy it seems to get after a short bit of riding. It tends to hurt the back of my neck if i take 80+ mile rides.

When i had my Virago i had a german style pot helmet and it was Ok for around town but once i got over 50mphs it was really freaking loud and the helmet would pull away from the head. I hated it.

I had a HD Boneyard helmet for the first day I had the bike and I sold it a week later. I hated the half helm. It was loud and I hated the way it routed the wind straight down to my eyes. The straps vibrating in the wind was to much.

My point, I think i am going to get a carbon fiber shell full face from shoie or something. I love the full face, just wish mine didn't weigh so much.

so lemme get this straight, holding your breath is wrong?

:doh

no wonder i fall off http://www.moker.us/pic/tongue.gif

My FF definately cuts into my peripheral vision, I've tried several kinds and have problems with all.

A properly fitting FF helmet does NOT cut into peripheral vision....

A properly fitting FF helmet does NOT cut into peripheral vision....

at least it doesn't cut into peripheral in any statistically significant way...

I can JUST BARELY make out the edges of my face shield if I strain my eyes fully over to one side or the other in their sockets... bugs the crap outta me to try.

So I just turn my head when I need to look :D

So I just turn my head when I need to look :D

Which is what one is SUPPOSED to do anyway... :)

When i had my Virago..... .

boy did i read that wrong... i thought you were saying something about them little blue pills :laugh

got to read and not skim.....

Which is what one is SUPPOSED to do anyway... :)


damn straight!

:banana

boy did i read that wrong... i thought you were saying something about them little blue pills :laugh

got to read and not skim.....

:roflblack :roflblack :roflblack

Anything outside of extreme temps I love my FF helmet. I ride fast and safety is number 1 concern for me. My Scorpion helmet model:In flat black of course.
Swankster

boy did i read that wrong... i thought you were saying something about them little blue pills :laugh

got to read and not skim.....

:roflblack :roflblack :roflblack

Don't need no stinkin' little blue pill! :banana

Just checking in for the pic of Chuck mowing the lawn in a helmet. Please continue...

Just checking in for the pic of Chuck mowing the lawn in a helmet. Please continue...

So, you're just itching to go blind, eh? :roflblack :roflblack :roflblack

Just don't mow in Oregon, Chuck...it gets 'spensive!

City Cracks Down On Naked Lawn Mowing

Jun 17, 2004 9:36 am US/Central

Want to streak through downtown or drop your pants in the park? You could be slapped with a $250 fine.

City councilors in the southern Oregon town have passed an anti-nudity ordinance, prohibiting genital exposure downtown and in public parks.

Some residents opposed the ordinance, saying it infringes on personal freedom.

"I prefer that we not be legislating morality," said resident Paul Copeland. "I have a problem with the proposed language of the ordinance. If your neighbor is mowing his lawn naked or doing objectionable things, I don't believe the police are the right way to resolve your dispute."

He suggested making nudity legal if it were a political or artistic expression.

But Mayor Alan DeBoer said he was wholeheartedly in favor of the fully-clad plan.

"I have had many citizens say they cannot believe that someone can run through town with no clothes on," DeBoer said.

The new ordinance will make it easier for police to ask a nude person to cover up. Failure to do so could result in a $250 fine.

that's a good point... I wear my contacts specifically for that reason!

K

Well - Thats good for people that can wear contacts. Me - I need bifocals and have astigmatisim. I have never found contacts to be confortable. In addition, I work with a lot of chemicals as part of my job and contacts are just not a smart thing to wear even with safety glasses.

I got a Hoodlum, head sock sort of. Was at a metric dealer last week, a friend of mine bought a Zuzuki Boulevard C50, they had a full face [HJC I think] that the front flips up with the shield. I think I may get one for the winter, I haven't ever had a full face cause I don't like putting them on. This one goes on like my 3/4. Anyone tried one?

I have that one. I hate FF helmets, especialy the loss of peripheral vision but the flip up chin type are the best of both worlds. When you are going slower (45 or less) you can keep it up and have almost the same reange of vision you do with a half helmet. At higher speeds, you drop the front and you get the wind/rain beating benefits of a FF.

Got mine at the Harley stealership for about $125.00.

Fog City fog shield... I can ride in 20-30 degree weather AND keep the shield closed the whole time. I don't have to hold my breath at an intersection or anything... I don't have to even crack the shield open.

Love it.

K

Thanks for the tip.. reasonable price if it performs as advertised.
They have a clearance going on Amber ones (12.95) so I ordered one. I wear a pair of amber Best Bikers glasses in low light so the Amber fog shield should be cool.

I have that one. I hate FF helmets, especialy the loss of peripheral vision but the flip up chin type are the best of both worlds. When you are going slower (45 or less) you can keep it up and have almost the same reange of vision you do with a half helmet.

I really gotta call you on that peripheral vision thing.

As a few of us have pointed out already in this thread, a properly fitting helmet is not going to cost you any view of the road.

Yeah, it FEELS a little weird cause you loose a little bit of sky and a little bit of the motorcycle gas tank or so in your peripheral, but left and right should be almost imperceptable.

That said, I'm with you and would RATHER wear an open face...

but everytime I get stuck in a heavy rain or hail storm and I'm going 50-60 mph going OUCH, OUCH, FE@%$@%$% OUCH, OUCH..SON OF A BI#$@%%@$ OUCH, I think, "dumbass, you read the forecast, why didn't you wear the FF today"

:doh

Mate just bought this one, can be used as FF or open just by flipping chin part completely black. Is designed to be worn both ways, so best of both worlds. Not cheap, but he shopped about and eventually got a black one for just over $150.00. Very cool helmet, the pilot style visor can either be open or closed.

4723

Thanks for the tip.. reasonable price if it performs as advertised.
They have a clearance going on Amber ones (12.95) so I ordered one. I wear a pair of amber Best Bikers glasses in low light so the Amber fog shield should be cool.


Here's another tip.

I've got super dark, lightly tinted and clear face shields for my FF.

I only EVER use the clear one anymore.

Why?

1. I'm lazy and hate changing em or bringing two with me (light in the morning, dark when I'm leaving work etc).
2. I found that a couple of strips of electrical tape across the very top of the clear shield will act like a sun visor and I can ride nearly straight into the setting sun without any loss of vision!

Kev

A properly fitting FF helmet does NOT cut into peripheral vision....

Bzzztttt! Wrong answer, but thanks for playing! :doh

My peripheral vision, when looking straight foward, greater than 180 degrees. When allowing my eyes to look left or right, that periphery extends out to almost 225 degrees, which is quite a bit further than line of sight in any Full Face helmet I have ever worn.

Mate just bought this one, can be used as FF or open just by flipping chin part completely black. Is designed to be worn both ways, so best of both worlds. Not cheap, but he shopped about and eventually got a black one for just over $150.00. Very cool helmet, the pilot style visor can either be open or closed.

4723


THAT'S SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET

I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

Availalbe on this side of the pond????

(not with my luck).

K

Bzzztttt! Wrong answer, but thanks for playing! :doh

My peripheral vision, when looking straight foward, greater than 180 degrees. When allowing my eyes to look left or right, that periphery extends out to almost 225 degrees, which is quite a bit further than line of sight in any Full Face helmet I have ever worn.



What are you a freakin' horse :roflblack

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROOF-BOXER-FULL-FACE-HELMET_W0QQitemZ4586271841QQcategoryZ72278QQtcZpho toQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Seems great value, if you have a big head!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROOF-BOXER-FULL-FACE-HELMET_W0QQitemZ4586271841QQcategoryZ72278QQtcZpho toQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Seems great value, if you have a big head!!


nahh, I'm a pee-brain (ask anybody)... I wear a Medium

I may start keeping my eye open for something like that down the road though...

damn cool.

K

A properly fitting FF helmet does NOT cut into peripheral vision....
My fricken bike shop fitted me! dAMN IT! Funny thing is the helmet fits and feels great. Maybe I just got a small head.:roflblack :roflblack

Thanks for the tip.. reasonable price if it performs as advertised.
They have a clearance going on Amber ones (12.95) so I ordered one. I wear a pair of amber Best Bikers glasses in low light so the Amber fog shield should be cool.

Where did you order it from?

BELL Star FF here. ALWAYS have....ALWAYS will:clap
I don't like being taken out by a bumble bee or other hard shelled critter at speed.:doh
I also bought a helmet liner from Cabela's to wear under it on those cold mornings. It's no fun to have your neck and chin frozen when you get somewhere.;)

Where did you order it from?

http://www.goodvibesracing.com/ :doh Should have posted that....

I was going to order a Fog City Proshield yesterday...just got busy and didn't do it. Well, as luck would have it, I stopped by my stealer and they have them in stock.

I installed it last night. Not a fun thing to do...but, not all that hard IF you follow the instructions...;)