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jhawkr 12th November 2005, 14:44 That little star thumbwheel on my 06 XL1200R is impossible to operate with gloves on, (for me), and you can't really disengage it quickly. I have a riding buddy that uses his but I need something better. Any suggestions? How about the Vista Cruise?
willprevale 12th November 2005, 16:08 You'll get differing opinions on that cruise thing but I'd lose it immediately. There is no valid reason to use it. I consider it a high risk accessory.
cantolina 12th November 2005, 16:26 Coupla things I dislike, because they take away from the attention of the rider and remove control from his/her immediate thought processes....that's one's first on the list...
Cruise control (throttle lock was never meant to do this, anyway)
Automatic lighting of any kind
Auto shut-off directionals
There are plenty of after market cruise units....of course, I don't recommend ANY of them, but one's as good as another, I suppose...
Quick-release would be my first concern....the fewer moving parts, the better, I'd think.....any failure should release....
DustyJacket 12th November 2005, 16:58 "Klever Lever" attaches a lever to the star thumbscrew...
jdbostic 12th November 2005, 16:59 According to the HD manual the "throttle lock screw" is to "reduce rider fatigue on longer rides"
But I feel iffy about it too big time!
johnnybgood 12th November 2005, 17:17 That little star thumbwheel on my 06 XL1200R is impossible to operate with gloves on, (for me), and you can't really disengage it quickly. I have a riding buddy that uses his but I need something better. Any suggestions? How about the Vista Cruise?
I have a Vista Cruise on my bike and love it. One flick on and off. I don't feel it's a big safety issue if common sense is used.
jhawkr 12th November 2005, 17:25 That's what it's all about, common sense. I'd like to use a quick release cruise control when I'm up on the interstate, virtually by myself, on longer rides so that I can relieve some cramping in my right hand. Not as a set it and forget it thing. I think the Vista Cruise would probably work well.
decman 12th November 2005, 17:41 Here is another vote for the 'Vista Cruise'
It's simple and works great. I do a lot of 600+ mile
days and it saves the day without being dangerous.
Just be careful of fitting with some of the custom grips.
I had some issues with the 'ISO' grip so I went to another
type of grip.
jhawkr 13th November 2005, 00:10 I bought a Vist Cruise and installed it this afternoon. Works good but I may need to buy some new grips.
82ndJumper 13th November 2005, 00:27 I got the vista cruiser and It works for what I need. Just dont use it around any traffic.
Jason's Sporty 13th November 2005, 02:18 Whats a vista cruise. I have a lever on my grip that works great and was like $10. still looking for somthing that allows me to ride with no hands.:yikes
decman 13th November 2005, 02:47 A Vista Cruise locks the throttle with a lever.
You don't have to hold the grip at all.
Unlocks by flipping the lever the other way, under $40
Do a search for it
Whats a vista cruise. I have a lever on my grip that works great and was like $10. still looking for somthing that allows me to ride with no hands.:yikes
pperrone 17th November 2005, 00:55 Where can you get the Vista-Cruise?
jhawkr 17th November 2005, 01:17 Most Harley shops carry them. Available on-line about anywhere!
82ndJumper 17th November 2005, 02:28 Try JP Cycles, They might have it. I just deleted the store from my comp.
AZbiker 17th November 2005, 06:20 I couldn't find one locally, so I ordered mine from AZmotorsports.com, now "Ride Now Powersports".
linky (http://store.azmusa.com/newvicrcofor.html)
I have one for my bike, but I haven't installed it yet. Some of my friends use the Vista Cruise on their bikes, it works real well. And I have done business in the past with this outfit, was real happy with the service I received.
Bikerdude 17th November 2005, 07:13 That little star thumbwheel on my 06 XL1200R is impossible to operate with gloves on, (for me), and you can't really disengage it quickly. I have a riding buddy that uses his but I need something better. Any suggestions? How about the Vista Cruise?
On my 85 Ironhead, my star wheel works just fine. As long as you can chew gum and walk at the same time, you should be ok. Some can't.
I never tighten mine that much anyway. I can take my hand off for a minute or so and stay constant. But the slightest touch and I can throttle down completely. Common sense in all things...
82ndJumper 17th November 2005, 08:41 AZmotorsports is where I got mine.
whispanic 17th November 2005, 08:56 According to the HD manual the "throttle lock screw" is to "reduce rider fatigue on longer rides"
But I feel iffy about it too big time!
I think its HD's way of protesting the return spring uncle sammy made them put on back in the day.
Used to be you rolled on and when you stop you rolled off.
Throttle locks werent needed.
Ive used mine a few times but there is too much shit around here to allow me to use it often...and feel safe.
If you want one and you dont care about show chrome then get a Vista Cruise... its cheap and its really easy to use and disengage on the quik.
Adios
cadiero 18th November 2005, 02:21 Okay, I use the thumb wheel and think it works fine.
But, enough about throttle locks, does anyone know where to get actual cruise control for sportsters? They make aftermarket cruise for cars, but are there any companies that make if for motorcycles?
The Touring bikes have cruise control that works great, but the dealership says you can't install it on Sportsters or even the Dynas or Softails. Does anyone know where to get cruise for us non touring bike owners?
whispanic 18th November 2005, 02:42 Okay, I use the thumb wheel and think it works fine.
But, enough about throttle locks, does anyone know where to get actual cruise control for sportsters? They make aftermarket cruise for cars, but are there any companies that make if for motorcycles?
The Touring bikes have cruise control that works great, but the dealership says you can't install it on Sportsters or even the Dynas or Softails. Does anyone know where to get cruise for us non touring bike owners?
You cant do it...I dont think so anyways ;)
I believe all those bikes with CC are based on fuel injection. Its all electronic.
No go on a carb. The gear you would need to have cruise on a carb would be outrageous. Throttle lock or nuthin.
Adios
Wardog 18th November 2005, 14:32 There is another alternative. Go to the SAC website link:
http://www.coolsac.com/Browse.aspx?category_code=GRIPS
They have grips that have a built in lock if you are interested. Their grips will fit the Sportster. I do not have the lock capability on my grips but they are nice.
cadiero 18th November 2005, 19:58 Well, that's cool too. I just don't understand why no one makes an aftermarket cruise. Is there just no market for it? Cause I'd buy it!
whispanic 18th November 2005, 21:27 Well, that's cool too. I just don't understand why no one makes an aftermarket cruise. Is there just no market for it? Cause I'd buy it!
refer to my previous post...
cadiero 19th November 2005, 02:15 Okay, there is cruise on carbed touring bikes so that's not the deal. And Aftermarket cruise works very well on cars with carb's so that's not the deal. The carb isn't stopping electronic cruise to work. I'm just wondering what is
whispanic 19th November 2005, 02:25 Okay, there is cruise on carbed touring bikes so that's not the deal. And Aftermarket cruise works very well on cars with carb's so that's not the deal. The carb isn't stopping electronic cruise to work. I'm just wondering what is
I think size is the issue
you will need mechanical implements to pull and release the throttle. You would also need a computer brain to operate the "control" device based on a speed sensor or speedo sensor.
So the way I see it you would have a computer controlled throttle lock.
Like I said in my previous post "The gear you would need to have cruise on a carb would be outrageous"
Once could be made but I would think will the the doodads you would need you would easily be lookin at $500 and 500 hours to design it.
Me Im down for $20.
t.c. Johnson 18th January 2006, 01:00 I think its HD's way of protesting the return spring uncle sammy made them put on back in the day.
Used to be you rolled on and when you stop you rolled off.
Adios
I was thinkin of just removing the throttle return spring and going back to roll on and roll off. Any downside?
The newer bikes have that nutty pull on - pull off throttle linkage. It looks like it is made for it.
snowman 19th January 2006, 00:57 For about $10 you can get a throttle rocker that makes long rides a whole lot easier and it's not cruise control. They have them at J&P Cycle....
snowman
Krayven Sumhead 20th January 2006, 11:34 Anyone using the '!!!!!!!!!!!!'? I think I'm gonna go with one of these, alltho I use the 'star' screw all the time on trips. It hooks onto the existing 'star' screw.www.!!!!!!!!!!!!.com
LazyLion 21st January 2006, 03:46 I had a similar but cheaper deal I bought at the dealership for about 2 bucks or less. It worked fine for giving your hand a break. When I had the honest to god cruise control installed I gave it to a Sporty rider. Not sure if he put it on or not. The dealer had a chrome one for maybe 6 bucks if the black one wasn't your taste.
evalea 14th March 2006, 08:36 How about this (hideous contraption - IMO) from Kuryakyn
http://www.kuryakyn.com/graphics/products/popup/12698_kur_6280_ob_h_pu.jpg
Give your wrist a rest. This push button electro-magnetic cruise assist is just the ticket. Just push a button to set. . . Push the button again or touch the brakes to cancel. Magnetic force holds throttle position steady, but is still easy to over-ride when necessary.
_6280 // $159.99 _ORDER NOW
Electro-Magnetic Cruise Assist (ea)
Fits: '96-'06 H-D Models
Available Summer 2006
P.S. I have a Klever Lever, and a universal throttle boss.
alocomann 1st April 2006, 23:51 What was the problem in using the vista cruise with the ISO grips?
decman 2nd April 2006, 00:48 For some reason I had a hard time getting mine
to fit right. Some others use them fine.
The ISO grips have a chrome lip and the ring of the VistaCruise
was being pulled out too much and it would bind on me.
YMMV
What was the problem in using the vista cruise with the ISO grips?
karlkcfi 17th September 2006, 13:03 I used a Vista cruise control on my Virago for 60,000 miles with no problems, malfunctions. it is pretty much idiot proof, just don't use it in traffic/city driving. One move sets it and with a flick of your thumb it is off. I found myself automatically checking to be sure it was off everytime I got off the highway.
Sportsters Rule!
Hoowasat 18th September 2006, 01:36 I have a Vista Cruise on my bike and love it. One flick on and off. I don't feel it's a big safety issue if common sense is used.
I had one on my '06 1200R, and quicly removed it. The thing worked as claimed, but it ate up too much space on my throttle, leaving too little space for my hand .... and I ain't got big hands.
Bill2 29th September 2006, 02:34 I had one on my '06 1200R, and quicly removed it. The thing worked as claimed, but it ate up too much space on my throttle, leaving too little space for my hand .... and I ain't got big hands.
I've also been using one on my sportster for 18,000 miles and on other bikes with no problems at all. I have pretty big hands but i also have extra long grips 5 & 3/4" so plenty of room. Like everything it's got to be set up right. And thats another thing i like about it, it's simple and easy to use.
Bob F 5th April 2007, 19:08 I started biking before the return spring and always leave the star wheel snug to defeat the return spring on all my bikes since then. 38 years and no problems yet.
JBA111 18th April 2007, 05:15 Some of you guys might want to check into this. I got a 99 harley Ultra that is carbed and has cruse control and it works great.
You can buy the cC kit so it might be a good place to start!
2wheeltodd 18th April 2007, 18:22 I would agree with those who do NOT recommend cruise control. It would seem to me that one would want cruise control to help reduce hand and arm fatigue. I have tried the friction fit throttle rocker. This is a safer alternative IMO. If you try one I would recommend pushing it out to the outermost end of the grip. This will allow all four fingers to wrap the top of the grip. For about $10.00 its worth a try.
SpartanDen 18th April 2007, 18:27 I have the throttle rocker and it seems to work pretty well. It took some getting used to around town, but once I got used to it, I don't notice it too much. It is nice on the highway as you can rest your palm on it and maintain a constant speed while giving your fingers a break.
I would like to try the vista cruise, but am not sure....yet.
rfranz1952 19th April 2007, 02:43 I started with the Vista Cruise. While I think it would be an acceptable solution on some bikes, I had a couple of issues with it. In 2004 or 2005, the Company in all its wisdom made the handgrips smaller in circumfrence. The result is that it is difficult to get the Vista Cruise tight around the handgrip. You have to stakc both of the spacers they provide (you are supposed to use only one), and it just doesn't feel stable. The second issue was that it took encough space on the grip that my hand hung off the end. This may not be an issue for someone with small enough hands. Finally, because it wraps around the grip, if you have grips that have a chrome ring or anything along the inside edge that prevents the Vista from hugging up against the handlebar, it won't work. Because of the way it is constructed, it needs to be right at the very inside end of the grip to function.
I ended up with a Cruise Buddy. More expensive, but it replaces the star wheel with a flip on/flip off lever, and it works very well. It doesn't take handgrip space, and it looks like it belongs on the bike. It is made of polished aluminum.
A little bit more difficult to install, but I did it, and I am a klutz.:frownone
Their website is at mcgcustom.com. They include pictures and install instructions.
There are a number of other cruise devices/throttle lockers on the market designed to provide strain relief. Check the ads at the back of American Iron magazine, and you will see several more advertised. I couldn't vouch for the way they work, though.
I like my Cruise Buddy!:banana
Lloyd 20th April 2007, 15:26 Throttle mate makes a simple lever that takes all of 1 minute to put on the
star wheel. Throttle rockers are nice but sometimes ya need to maintain
speed and give your right hand a shake. Use it when common sense dictates
and ya won't have any problems.
jumpman 5th June 2007, 16:50 Been there done that ... Conclusion BAD NEWS ! Period. Woke up 6 feet behind a semi doing 105. Thank God He didn't blow his horn. I would have freaked. I too had installed the Vista Cruise.
Why do You think I bought a Harley? I was on a freaking sowing machine I could barely hear let alone feel. 180 lbs of dead meat riding a rocket. I am surprised I'm alive to still tell the story.
Jumpman
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