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GOTWA
25th November 2005, 05:00
Just curious where folks land on this one.

Would you rather go quick (set up for handling, cornering, etc.)?

Or would you rather go fast (set up for WOT)?

And none of this, best of both worlds stuff. I realize that.

But, if you had your druthers. Which would it be?

For me, it's quick.

cantolina
25th November 2005, 05:01
Just curious where folks land on this one.

Would you rather go quick (set up for handling, cornering, etc.)?

Or would you rather go fast (set up for WOT)?

And none of this, best of both worlds stuff. I realize that.

But, if you had your druthers. Which would it be?

For me, it's quick.

Me too....quick...

I feel I have FAST, but I'm happier about the "QUICK".... :)

tcspannerwrench
25th November 2005, 05:02
i have to agree with both of you

Jesse_Bolt
25th November 2005, 05:07
Quick as I've lowered my gear ratio for that intended result.

JB

Paulie420
25th November 2005, 05:16
I'd rather be QUICK also, I get enough kicks going quick and am glad that the bike responds the way it does. I didn't REALLY understand the poll, but I'd rather have a safe quick bike than one that JUST goes really really fast. Bleck.

GOTWA
25th November 2005, 05:22
I'd rather be QUICK also, I get enough kicks going quick and am glad that the bike responds the way it does. I didn't REALLY understand the poll, but I'd rather have a safe quick bike than one that JUST goes really really fast. Bleck.

Yeah Paulie I guess it's subject to interpertation and in a lot of ways it's relative.

To me, when I think quick, I think good bottom grunt, good suspension, good brakes, and so on. A bike set-up more for the twisties lets say. That is why I'm leaning heavily toward a dual brake set-up before an engine conversion.

When I think fast, I think exceptional top-end, slammed on the ground, built motor, and so.

Does that make any more sense?

willprevale
25th November 2005, 05:24
Quick is good, at least for me.

Hugh Betcha
25th November 2005, 05:29
I thin of "fast" as "mechanical", something the bike does. I think of "quick" as "skillful", something I am definitely a part of. I would rather be quick.

deadeye
25th November 2005, 05:29
Quick is way funnest for me!

jack82
25th November 2005, 05:36
Definately handling first.........power is useless If you cant control it.........

flag888
25th November 2005, 05:37
QUICK!!!
I mean come on, NASCAR is fast, but how much fun is it to go as fast as you can for hours in a circle than, lets say a rally race, where being skillfull and quick is more challenging and needs much more skill.
Twisties rule, takes skill and thought. Going as fast as you can in a straight line just takes cash!

Scott

thatbikerguy
25th November 2005, 05:39
Quick!!!!!!!!!!

GOTWA
25th November 2005, 05:40
QUICK!!!
I mean come on, NASCAR is fast, but how much fun is it to go as fast as you can for hours in a circle than, lets say a rally race, where being skillfull and quick is more challenging and needs much more skill.
Twisties rule, takes skill and thought. Going as fast as you can in a straight line just takes cash!

Scott

Love my NASCAR, been watching since the way early days when you barely could catch a post-race broadcast on Wide World of Sports. But I have always loved rally racing, and baja, and the like.

I can look at a built old GTO and say wow, that's cool. But then I see a BMW 5 series and say, damn, now that is a machine!

flag888
25th November 2005, 05:47
I used to like NASCAR when awesome Bill from Dawsonville was breaking the 200 mph mark and they were trying to slow them down. After a while it became tedious and I started to love anything where there were more than just left turns! Still feel the same way, just seems like whoever has the most money and the best pit crew wins. Now I love SCCA races and the like, unfortunately SpeedChannel is so focused on NASCAR I can't see the more interesting stuff you used to.

Scott

Jesse_Bolt
25th November 2005, 05:48
Love my NASCAR, been watching since the way early days when you barely could catch a post-race broadcast on Wide World of Sports. But I have always loved rally racing, and baja, and the like.

żDid you say naSCAR? I remember watching a two week old segment of a Darlington race on ABC's Wide World of Sports while listening to the live broadcast of a Dover race on MRN radio.

JB

BKB
25th November 2005, 05:51
Quick does the trick for me. Fast costs money. Quick is skill.

Jesse_Bolt
25th November 2005, 05:56
Quick does the trick for me. Fast costs money. Quick is skill.

My quick didn't come cheap; pulleys, sprockets, double-row chain and Mikuni carburetor.

JB

rottenralph
25th November 2005, 05:57
Anyone who has ridden there sporty over 100 for a while knows that fast is bad after a long run. I will take quick any day. I race from light to light anyway.

GOTWA
25th November 2005, 06:01
...double-row chain...
JB

Jesse, educate the ignorant (namely, me) please.

hoosier xlc
25th November 2005, 06:08
gotta go with quick.

Scott

74FeHeadXLH
25th November 2005, 06:19
When I got my 74, she was set up for fast....I've since made several changes towards the quick catagory...as said before what good is tons of power if ya can't control it....hehe but the fast part ain't gone nowhere either

Turbota
25th November 2005, 06:32
1/4 mile quick + fast trap speed

Don't want it to handle like a dog either.

Narley
25th November 2005, 07:52
Lots of good comments here...some about handling...some about quick...to me quick is getting there...fast is where "there" ends. I have been fast, and unless its side by side with someone and its a thrill ,then it doesnt hold a candle to acceleration. thats the key to what every one here is calling quick...its not maintaining a high speed...its about rapid speed change....braking hard into the corner...adrenaline pumps...acelerating hard from the corner or a stand still or anyway your speed changes up or down rapidly putting g forces on you...THATS THE THRILL. You say quick ,but include handling...for me its just about quick in a straight line...but its the accelerarion thrill we all share isnt it.Getting to 100mph in 6+ seconds beats the hell out of going 150 mph for 30 seconds.....IMO
(But an LSR guy will argue...)

wabiker
25th November 2005, 10:08
I said fast... WOT
Twisty turnies are for lazy day rides.....so Im not particularly concerned with how nimble it is..... unless Im dodging a pot hole or a liter bottle tossed out of a school bus winder...

Smokermike
25th November 2005, 10:09
neck snapping quick for me

stevo
25th November 2005, 10:43
quick or fast.........mmmmmmmmmmmmm where have heard this before ;)




point to point

go with the flow of road

as quick as you can

woody95
25th November 2005, 13:09
Since going at speed 70 to 100 mph is illegal in this country I want to go as fast as hell to get to the legal speed limit.
Bob

daesdaemar
25th November 2005, 15:29
quick for me...

RedRider
25th November 2005, 16:08
Between the two, I picked quick...

But in reality, I like to be fairly well rounded. I wouldn't do a gearing change, for instance, if it limited me to 100 MPH. I prefer to accellerate hard, but like to have a decent top end too.

famousperson
25th November 2005, 16:11
I am definitly on the side of quick! WOT doesn't do it for me.

Jesse_Bolt
25th November 2005, 16:21
Jesse, educate the ignorant (namely, me) please.

First off, you are not ignorant; not even close to it. Not knowing and ignorant are entirely two different things. Actually, you are rather intelligent for asking a question about something you are not familiar with.

The double-row chain along with the sprockets are inside the primary. I reduced the size of the engine output sprocket to lower my gear ratios. The Sportsters have a primary chain adjuster and I was hoping that would properly tension the chain. Unfortunately that wasn't the case. I needed to purchase a shorter primary chain which are double-row chains.

Here is an example, this happens to be a automotive timing chain; very similar to the primary set-up in all Harleys.

http://www.intense-racing.com/rtd_600.jpg

JB

Jesse_Bolt
25th November 2005, 16:28
Between the two, I picked quick...

But in reality, I like to be fairly well rounded. I wouldn't do a gearing change, for instance, if it limited me to 100 MPH. I prefer to accellerate hard, but like to have a decent top end too.

I have to agree. Being one whom reduced my gears, the typical rider will not want to utilize that avenue.

JB

Gary
25th November 2005, 16:50
Neither quick or fast...

I'm into the slow mellow ride just putt'n down the street looking cool to the little kids on their bikes and looking sexy to all their moms :D

Gazza

JohnT
25th November 2005, 17:01
Quick is best for me as I commute every day on my bike, spending 85% of my riding time in town and on two-lane canyon/country back roads. That said, I'm about to do the 1200 conversion so I can cruise two-up on the freeways more comfortably and with more confidence.

jamman
25th November 2005, 17:04
:roflblack :roflblack :roflblack :roflblack Your wives, ol ladies and girlfriends, say all of you are Quick!!!!:roflblack :roflblack :roflblack :roflblack

LVBOATDOC
25th November 2005, 17:07
Sounds like their's alot of you that need to ride a Buell if you want quick. To be quick you need to be all layed out on the bike and a sporty isn't set up for that. The new Buell's give you both quick and fast.

bshadbolt
25th November 2005, 17:19
Definitely quick. Fast in a straight line is fun occasionally but quick through the twisties is great ALL the time.

Cheers,

Brett

Turbota
25th November 2005, 17:20
If you are voting on Quick or Fast ... I think that's a poor choice.

An example of Quick is how the bike accelerates.

An example of Fast is max speed.

Quick [and] Fast would be a bike that accelerates Quickly in the 1/4 mile [and] has a Fast trap speed.

If you want to talk about a bike that is good in the twisties, maybe you should use the work Agile.

So .... The vote might be Quick/Fast vs Agile ... or just simply Fast vs Agile

A bike that screams down the 1/4 mile, but handles very well would be a Fast and Agile bike.

Make sense ?????

SkippyRay
25th November 2005, 17:23
NO contest here QUICK!!!!! will win every time!!!!

ted
25th November 2005, 17:28
QUICK is much more fun. For me straight line acceleration is good. I don't do twisties or land speed record riding. I have dragraced and did pretty good. I have enough power to mess with the crotch rocket kids, but they can have the triple number speeds after I beat them to 100.
Ted

Dragbike1k
25th November 2005, 17:39
I'd choose quick any day. I'm in it for the acceleration. When that stops it ceases to be fun for me. It doesn't mater if it stops at 100 on a Buell, or 170 on my turbo bike. When it stops pulling hard, I'm done.


Narley, ya still got the gixxer? Are you running it at the strip any?

Carl-04XL
25th November 2005, 17:42
Quick (i.e. nimble, agile, handling, etc... )
Very few roads where Fast won't get you in trouble (law/curves/traffic) rather quickly.

That said, I still want the power to make it to 100+

Sportster Girl
25th November 2005, 17:42
Quick

(That sounds funny after reading it elevety-something times.....quick, quick, quick.....oops, sorry.....) :laugh

Lucifer
25th November 2005, 17:59
Both was left off. I'd say quick keeps you at a slower overall speed which is probably the most safe of the two. Burning rubber, and pulling wheelies is usually a little more intense than shear speed, but something that is both quick and blistering on the top will probably provide the most adrenalin to the system. Both, burning rubber and running high speeds are wreckless driving tickets in my area! Don't guess that stops too many people though.
Ride to Live!

Gary
25th November 2005, 18:32
An example of Quick is how the bike accelerates.
An example of Fast is max speed.

Quick [and] Fast would be a bike that accelerates Quickly in the 1/4 mile [and] has a Fast trap speed.

If you want to talk about a bike that is good in the twisties, maybe you should use the work Agile.

So .... The vote might be Quick/Fast vs Agile ... or just simply Fast vs Agile

Make sense ?????I think GOTWA clearly laid out his definitions of quick vs. fast for this thread/poll... it really doesn't matter what Websters says in regards to this poll.

Gazza

BWP 5p
25th November 2005, 18:39
I know we can't have both.....BUT I'm trying to set my bike up to be a tire smoking beast on the way to a blistering top end. I also want to be able (which I do) to rip through the twisties.:clap :banana

Shu
25th November 2005, 18:48
Interesting thread. Quick to me is pure acceleration. Fast to me is top speed. Fast is something accomplished at the Bonneville Salt Flats. Quick is something all of us can work to acheive on our street bikes. Let's be honest about our beloved sportsters, they just are not set up to run 200 plus mph. And if they can not do that, they are not considered fast by todays motorcycle standards (Hyabusa). These V-Twin engines just do not have the rpm capability to do both quick and fast. They have such a small rpm limit (compared to the Super Sport bikes) that we can either set them up to accelerate fairly quickly or to be of no use on the street and set them up to just be fast on the top end. In addition, for those of us that do run 125 plus mph fairly regularly, we can atest that the sportsters ergonomics and suspension do not lend itself to be ridden much faster than that. To go fast on a sportster, you would have to change the gearing, total engine rpm band, riding position, suspension, aerodynamics, and on and on. Sometime do a Google search on Bonneville Salt Flats and Sportster and you will see some sportsters that are set up to be fast.

All that said, I have always been an acceleration junkie. It started right when I first started to drive. I always had muscle cars and loved to build them to drag race. And let's face it, not many muscle cars could be considered real fast, they were just quick.....like our beloved Sportsters, the mucsle cars of bikes? Maybe, but I'd like to think that the Sportster handles a little better than a 1971 GTO:)

Turbota
25th November 2005, 18:58
I think GOTWA clearly laid out his definitions of quick vs. fast for this thread/poll... it really doesn't matter what Websters says in regards to this poll.

Gazza

That's fine ... All I was saying is when you think of something as Quick .... IE: That car is very Quick .... You assume it runs good at the drag strip.

I think Shu is saying the same thing.

Oh well .... I will drop it.

I still want a Quick bike that also handles well. Maybe I need a Busa! :)

chris horne
25th November 2005, 19:14
I will go for fast as that suits the sportster better in my opiniton thats why my next mod will be rear shocks then fork brace

engine
25th November 2005, 19:17
I believe that you can have BOTH...but to an extent. I set my '80 Camaro up that way when I built it. I dropped in a 375hp/400ft-lb 383 small block, 4-wheel disc brakes, 1-1/4" front, 7/8" rear sway bars, welded chassis connectors, quick ratio steering box, polyurethane suspension bushings (aluminum body bushings), 3.42:1 rear gear ratio, 16x8 wheels all around with FAT tires. It can probably do 1/4 mile in the 12's, and still hang in the corners without squealing the tires. My butt will slide off the seat before any tires make noise.

I'm modding my bike for the same. Stiffer suspension, lowered, will upgrade the lame front caliper with a 4-piston Brembo, 1200 conversion in the works...you can have both to an extent. But if you are going to the extreme side of things, then forget it; it's either one or the other.

Here in NYC, you NEED to have a bit of both. You need to swerve at the last minute to avoid a stupid idiot driving a Taxi, then swerve the other direction in a split second to avoid a pothole, and then you need power to get away from the Taxi driver as he goes to try and run you down.

ted
25th November 2005, 19:28
Quick, fast and agile can be had all in one Sporty. All three terms might be a bit different for everyone. I ran 10.8 qtr. miles, that's plenty quick, trap speed was 120 while running 10.8s, that's fast enough for a Sporty. Agile? Sportys are naturally agile, not crotch rocket agile, but not bad. Hell, after all, it's a Sportster we are talking about here, not a Busa or R1. There are limits to what we can do with our Sportys. But then again, thats the cool thing about a Sporty, you can configure it into anything you want. There was a story in Iron Works June 1997 issue that showed the versitality of Sportys. They had 4 bikes in the story, old stock original restoration, custom, radical paint 60s style and dragracer. Mine is the racer in the story.
The beautiful thing about our Sportys is it's ability to be whatever you want it to be. It is a lot of fun just putting down the road on a stock looking Clark Kent Sporty knowing that you can be in three number speeds in a matter of a few seconds.
Ted

wabiker
25th November 2005, 21:19
....After reading all the posts, Im now confused. :(
All I wanna know is: If Im the first one to the saloon and I can reach triple digits doing it... am I fast...or quick, within the given definitions of the poll.:smoke

Lucifer
25th November 2005, 22:05
Most stuff that's fast is also quick. When I think of fast and not quick I'm thinkin of the old turbo stuff without intercooling. Or a bike that ya leave home in 3rd gear to keep the front down that still traps at 150 plus, and skys the front end when it comes on the pipe. Reminds me of the time I put a 450 plus HP small block in my street car with 3.08 gears and it had a flat tappet cam of approx .560 lift that didn't start making any of it until about 4000 RPM. It was fast but it won't quick. Would run 115 in 2nd though. Still ran low 13's at 109 MPH. Picked up a girl one night and we were cruisin down the highway at 120 MPH only turning about 4600 RPM. Had it sitting on the peg and the girl asked "if we were really doing 120" and I replied "no" as I put it to the floor. It was good at 120 but wanted to pick it's own lane at 140. Dumb things I did when I was young. Glad nothin bad happened lookin back on it. Still see the girl every now and then and we have a laugh about it. Shoulda been takin it easy and enjoying the ride!
Live to Ride!

Narley
26th November 2005, 00:51
I'd choose quick any day. I'm in it for the acceleration. When that stops it ceases to be fun for me. It doesn't mater if it stops at 100 on a Buell, or 170 on my turbo bike. When it stops pulling hard, I'm done.


Narley, ya still got the gixxer? Are you running it at the strip any?


???? how did you know that besides the harlies I have/ had a zook?
Its no gixxer though. its a classic old gs 1150...the building block for so many dragbikes.....over 20 years old and stock ....and it pulls 11's.

Uquackmeup
26th November 2005, 01:17
I don’t know how to choose between the terms “fast or quick.” My expectations of my bike are to be fast enough to be an exhilarating ride with instantaneous throttle response no matter what speed. I expect it to be geared tall enough for comfortable freeway use yet still have low end grunt. I also expect my bike to be able to handle and stop proficiently, which enables me to ride it quickly. My bike meets my expectations, but it sure didn’t stock.

carl2124
26th November 2005, 01:20
Quick is better for me.

GOTWA
26th November 2005, 01:44
Quick or fast, where did I hear that before indeed. ;)

Sorry all, didn't mean to make it confusing. And as I said to Paulie early on, I reckon the terms are subject to interpretation.

I identify quick with a snappy throttle, superb handling/braking, etc.

I identify fast with a built motor that screams up to 120mph.

The main reason I asked this is it seems two of the most popular mechanical modifications are new lower (more commonly) shocks and an 883-1200 conversion.

To my way of thinking lower shocks impedes handling quality and therefore would be counter to setting the bike up for quick.

As I also said earlier I would like to do the dual brake conversion before punching out my 883. It will depend on how much more fighting I have to do with the dealer come spring over my valve seal issue. If I get too fed up I'll say screw it all and just do the engine and be done with them all together. But if I have my druthers, the brakes will come first. Because I want to be able to push this bike hard. To really hammer through the twisties I need better suspension and better braking.

I have oft stolen this quote from our friend Ken (Alleydude), I'd rather ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.

When I think quick, I think of Rob (RedRider's) bike.

When I think fast, I think of Narley or Crim's bikes.

I reckon Stevo's bike is an example of attempting to achieve both.

GOTWA
26th November 2005, 01:48
Thank you Jesse Bolt! The timing chain was an excellent example and great visual. SOmething I can relate to. I was trying to picture a double row drive chain and then trying to figure how that would be better. :o :D

Got it now!

Rusty
26th November 2005, 02:09
i think there was a poll on fast and quick people in here somewhere

Tracker
26th November 2005, 02:10
I choose quick. The roads in my part of Maine rarely let me stretch her legs, but she loves to pull hard from corner to corner!

Rusty
26th November 2005, 02:17
All jokes aside i prefer moderate quick and fast but most important reliability.

stevo
26th November 2005, 03:05
First off, you are not ignorant; not even close to it. Not knowing and ignorant are entirely two different things. Actually, you are rather intelligent for asking a question about something you are not familiar with.

The double-row chain along with the sprockets are inside the primary. I reduced the size of the engine output sprocket to lower my gear ratios. The Sportsters have a primary chain adjuster and I was hoping that would properly tension the chain. Unfortunately that wasn't the case. I needed to purchase a shorter primary chain which are double-row chains.

Here is an example, this happens to be a automotive timing chain; very similar to the primary set-up in all Harleys.

http://www.intense-racing.com/rtd_600.jpg

JB

Just a point here JB....

Are you saying you went a smaller double row engine output sprocket???


Sporty primary chains/sprockets are TRIPPLE row ....... goes all the way back to the wallas..

Big twins are double row

DId you use and aftermarket double row clutch basket as well????

thunderpaw
26th November 2005, 03:16
Quick is fine with me...and serve up a large dollop of handling/braking...top end is a concern of my past.

Kim

txsporty
26th November 2005, 05:07
I WANT BOTH!!!!:D

But I'll settle for quick!!!!:tour

Jesse_Bolt
26th November 2005, 15:00
Just a point here JB....
Are you saying you went a smaller double row engine output sprocket???
Sporty primary chains/sprockets are TRIPPLE row ....... goes all the way back to the wallas..
Big twins are double row
DId you use and aftermarket double row clutch basket as well????

My bad. I stand corrected and point well taken. It's a TRIPLE-Row chain. Additionally, I was scratching my head as to why I couldn't find a picture of a double-row chain in a Sportster primary anywhere on the net. I was thinking of looking through my piles of photographs to find the actual picture of my sprocket change and scan it onto the net.

Here is a picture of a TRIPLE-Row chain...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/Jesse_Bolt/c539155a.jpg

JB

74FeHeadXLH
26th November 2005, 18:07
other than where's your tensioner, looks basically stock to me...or did ya put a better quality chain in place ?

Greywolf
26th November 2005, 22:13
Quick. You can always have a fast one too.

Jeffytune
27th November 2005, 06:32
I think Quick is the better way to go, but it also needs to be fast, it kinda goes hand in hand.
BUT fast without handling is useless and dangerous in my humble opinion.

883Hugger
28th November 2005, 21:53
I would definitely have to go with quick. That is what 90% of my riding is.....I just love the twisties.

HellRazur
29th November 2005, 00:39
Quick is gay

sportsterwheelies
1st December 2005, 23:42
quick is the shit!!!

HellRazur
1st December 2005, 23:43
your gay charcol

74FeHeadXLH
2nd December 2005, 06:28
your gay charcol
:doh that's ghey, you nimrod...have'nt you been paying attention in here...there's protocol, ya know:roflblack :roflblack .....how ya been lately Razur...don't be such a stranger....we are going to meet with the real estate lady this Saturday to get the ball rollin:D :D

barry1967
3rd December 2005, 01:07
I have a DYNA. I don't have to worry bout either......




:sofa :surrender :spineyes

stevo
3rd December 2005, 02:10
is that because it's neither Quick nor Fast Bazza ???????

RedRider
3rd December 2005, 16:13
is that because it's neither Quick nor Fast Bazza ???????

That's what I was thinking.... ;):D:D:D

sportynut
6th December 2005, 13:13
quick IS fast... isn't it? I vote quick because fast is just an end result of quick..... low 12s is quick! 125 QM jus' makin' 4th wind

motoxxx
6th December 2005, 15:26
Wot Is Where Its All At!!!!

sportynut
6th December 2005, 17:03
Hammer on.... pull the trigger and let 'er fly!
see if you can reach yer foot up quick enough to shift before the RL fades yer power...and drops yer front wheel ............ it'slike.......YAAAAAAAHOOOOO!
pause (shift) YAAAAHOOOO! pause (shift) already over the speed limit......so...YAAAAHOOOO!.... Hammer off....down shift .... rinse and repeat!
YEAHH!!!! quick!

Dragbike1k
17th December 2005, 00:29
???? how did you know that besides the harlies I have/ had a zook?
Its no gixxer though. its a classic old gs 1150...the building block for so many dragbikes.....over 20 years old and stock ....and it pulls 11's.


My mistake. Maybe it was Steveo that posted pictures of a Naked 1k, somebody from down under I think. The GS is a kickass bike in my opinion, Comfy seating position and seat in stock form from what I remember.

I only check in occasionally because I'm a closet Buell Fan. Can't really find the cash to buy myself one. My money pit busa keeps eating all my spare change. But I like to read of everyone's exploits and accomplishments on the strip.

buckhorns
26th January 2007, 01:41
Already as fast as I want it to be. Am getting too old to go any faster. ( maybe if I was younger ) Quick is what I like now.

When everything is coming your way, you are in the wrong lane.

vpats
26th January 2007, 22:58
Under the popular genre, quick would be interpreted as getting from point A to point B, which is usually one forth mile away. While fast would be thought of in terms of pure miles per hour and lots of them.

Riders who tend to do stop light drags (not that anybody would actually preform this act) usuall will gear high and go for quick (getting there in less time), while other riders will gear it low and would like to give Porsche's a run for their money, usually an exercise in futility.

Personally, I gear low for crusing, reducing the engine speed at a given road speed, thus reducing vibration and making life a little more enjoyable.

* man, is that a bunch of bs or what?

sweetearlybronco
1st February 2007, 23:59
i would much rather get to speed quick. going fast gets to many tickets. dave

army_navy
24th February 2007, 04:43
My wife thinks I'm fast and quick...:laugh

rider29206
24th February 2007, 04:54
Since going at speed 70 to 100 mph is illegal in this country I want to go as fast as hell to get to the legal speed limit.
Bob

That would be 100 would it not?

rider29206
24th February 2007, 04:56
Whoops u said that was illegal must be 105

rider29206
24th February 2007, 04:57
My wife thinks I'm fast and quick...:laugh

THINK FOREPLAY

racerwill
24th February 2007, 05:11
on the street, quick is everything.....

Ww

hughtwg
24th February 2007, 07:27
I chose quick but I meant agile. I'm buying a Sportster to have something to ride relatively slowly but I still don't plan on slowing for the curves if I can avoid it. With that in mind I bought a set of 1200s shocks for a 1200c that I don't even own yet.

-Hugh

hughtwg
24th February 2007, 07:39
<snip>
Personally, I gear low for crusing, reducing the engine speed at a given road speed, thus reducing vibration and making life a little more enjoyable.

* man, is that a bunch of bs or what?
You've got your terminology backwards. You gear high to lower engine rpm and gear low for acceleration.

-Hugh

ozark
24th February 2007, 07:44
Zero to 100 or so is where I have my fun. I say quick!

Houndog
24th February 2007, 12:16
The sad part of this is that you CAN't go fast unless you can get the horsepower to the ground in a controlable fashion!!!! Your bike must handle first if you really want to go fast. Sadly, far too many people stick a high horsepower engine in a poor handling chasis and that winds up just being dangerous.

Houndog

Rocker59
25th February 2007, 00:11
Quick for me.

I live in the mountains, so I like a bike that can be quickly hustled through the twisties. I also like a bike that is quick around town. To me, that is why the Sportster is such a special bike.

I rarely exceed 80mph. It's my self-imposed speed limit. I spend a lot of time in the 60mph to 80mph range when I'm out riding.

Fast, for me, is anything over 125mph. I don't usually go there, even on the track...

bmcdonau
27th February 2007, 22:42
I used to like NASCAR when awesome Bill from Dawsonville was breaking the 200 mph mark and they were trying to slow them down. After a while it became tedious and I started to love anything where there were more than just left turns! Still feel the same way, just seems like whoever has the most money and the best pit crew wins. Now I love SCCA races and the like, unfortunately SpeedChannel is so focused on NASCAR I can't see the more interesting stuff you used to.

Scott

Yeah, they definitely went for the bucks with all the NASCAR. No boats or planes any more either.

bmcdonau
27th February 2007, 22:43
My wife thinks I'm fast and quick...:laugh

:laugh :laugh :p

I think mine does too.

bmcdonau
27th February 2007, 22:46
Wot Is Where Its All At!!!!

Yeah, but its relative. I went as WOT on my sporty as I could and it was less than 120 mph. I made it to a little over 140 mph on my ST-1300. I didn't stay at either very long. I can have a lot of fun between 40 and 80 mph.

Snuffy
28th February 2007, 14:02
After reading all these posts I think I voted Quick, CRS taking over

ponti1
28th February 2007, 14:56
Gotta be quick.

Can't get away from a police chase by going WOT on the freeway...That'll just end you up caught or killed.

ed_in_az
22nd March 2007, 23:16
Zero to 100 or so is where I have my fun. I say quick!

Ditto for me, but I have been known to go up to 115.:banana

One day I'll try and hit the rev limiter in 5th.:tour

Fast = lose your license speed
Quick = the rush of getting to fast, FAST

Since I voted for quick I won't be changing my original 883 gearing either.:p

gammaqueen
23rd March 2007, 00:29
Quick for me.

racerwill
11th April 2007, 05:59
quick is the funnest.....

Ww

dragbike1500
20th April 2007, 11:53
with my 77 ironhead 4 speed i feel i have plenty of quick so i had to sacrifice sone of the quick to cruise the interstate by going to a higher final gear. I get my QUICK fix on the strip 4.42 sec/ 164 mph with my promod kawasaki.

07sporty
22nd April 2007, 05:17
i think i messed up on the voting i took quick as just an agile twisties and fast as a torque monster, wheelies, straight line WOT through like 1st, 2nd, and maybe 3rd. I'm not exactly looking for a completely agile bike out of my sporty its a vtwin i want torque. I'm not looking for top speed at all i dont get over 90 mph very much at all. agile and top speed= crotch rocket or buell, thats not what i want i wanted a sporty(harley) i dont really know which quick or fast i would probably say quick after reading everyone elses posts but i compare these words as different meanings

Homarr
22nd April 2007, 06:07
Quick. I love being able to shoot it up, down, and around. When you wanna punch it hard, you can! Besides, where the hell do any of us ride (daily) where you can sustain high speeds for very long, anyway? Soon as I ever hit 100, I have to bring it back down for some reason or another...

Homarr
22nd April 2007, 06:08
quick is the funnest.....

Ww

No my friend, Quick is funner :D

ReddTigger
22nd April 2007, 06:56
I want to be the quickest, to get to the fastest....

whats the fastest.. WOT ? wot happens all the time for me, unless I Completely mis-interpreted what it means.... If I can't pull the throttle any more, isn't that WOT???

if Fastest is Maximum speed achived, not necessary to be quick... I want quick.
If Quickest is Accelleration, then that is what I Choose.

Living on Long Island, Quick can save your life. Getting away in a hurry is more important to how fast you can go. unless you're all the way out at the end. or on ocean parkway, there really isn't a place to go fast........

And if anyone from long island is reading this and they think they know a place, let me know :smoke

Barkster
29th August 2007, 17:53
It takes skill to be quick. Anyone can go fast.......

tradrockrat
29th August 2007, 18:05
If I want fast I'll buy a sports car.

Maxanimal
22nd September 2007, 13:47
I also see "quick" as traffic evasion and more important for street "survival".
How often do get to do more then a hundred. but fifty to eighty and back I do almost everyday. Twistie's at forty to sixty are more fun then a straight line eighty to one hundred.

bsporty
22nd September 2007, 13:57
http://www.geocities.com/hd_racer1/launch.jpg
I would LOVE to have one of these babies.

Duane Wood
22nd September 2007, 16:42
I get my QUICK fix on the strip 4.42 sec/ 164 mph with my promod kawasaki.

Interesting.............

Sleeper
22nd September 2007, 22:47
If you are voting on Quick or Fast ... I think that's a poor choice.

An example of Quick is how the bike accelerates.

An example of Fast is max speed.

Quick [and] Fast would be a bike that accelerates Quickly in the 1/4 mile [and] has a Fast trap speed.

If you want to talk about a bike that is good in the twisties, maybe you should use the work Agile.

So .... The vote might be Quick/Fast vs Agile ... or just simply Fast vs Agile

A bike that screams down the 1/4 mile, but handles very well would be a Fast and Agile bike.

Make sense ?????

I'm on the same page as you, but I prefer describing what I like as Quick and Agile.
In my younger days I had to see how fast (Top Speed) it would go, car, bike, whatever. Not anymore.



with my 77 ironhead 4 speed i feel i have plenty of quick so i had to sacrifice sone of the quick to cruise the interstate by going to a higher final gear. I get my QUICK fix on the strip 4.42 sec/ 164 mph with my promod kawasaki.

Interesting.............

Yes, very interesting. Those times put you very close to the top of promod.

jessearias
23rd September 2007, 01:35
Like the old saying goes, "The quick and the dead". Better to be quick.:)

Though FAST women are OK!