Question for anyone here that might know, I have been looking at the baker 6spd for the S&S case #203. On some sites it says its for a "dry primary"?. is there any reason it could not be run wet? and why would they say or recomend a dry primary for the S&S?

Also I seen they have an optional "reverse" shifter drum for it but instead of buying it to use on an X1 would it not be the same thing to just switch the stock X1 shifter linkage lever to the front to get the same thing? or is my thinking wrong in this?.

http://www.cas4.com/baker/baker-6-speed-xl-buell.htm

S&S cases seal the transmission off from the primary. That's true whether you use the Baker XL6 or your stock transmission (the cases come with a special trap door for your stock transmission that seals against the left side case).

So you can run either a wet or dry primary, because the tranny oil is sealed off.

I run wet primaries on both my S&S cased race bikes, both have XL6's installed. I run 10oz of tranny oil and 18oz of primary oil.

S&S cases seal the transmission off from the primary. That's true whether you use the Baker XL6 or your stock transmission (the cases come with a special trap door for your stock transmission that seals against the left side case).

So you can run either a wet or dry primary, because the tranny oil is sealed off.

I run wet primaries on both my S&S cased race bikes, both have XL6's installed. I run 10oz of tranny oil and 18oz of primary oil.


Don't mean to hijack your thread Kazoom, but. I was wondering about that Aaron. I was looking at my cases and thought the trap door looked like it would seal off the primary but I didn't see a dedicated fill opening for the trans. Where do you fill your trans from Aaron and what oil do you use in it.

thanks, Larry

I fill mine through the speedo sensor hole. I use RedLine Shockproof light. Like I said, just 10oz is all it takes.

Thanks for the info guys, the adds are confusing. Aswracing would you mind giving info on your wet primary setup?, chain/clutch?. I will need to buy the parts for my setup. This engine before had a open belt 5spd setup but I also would like to run it as a closed wet 6spd setup. Got any suggestions for a good clutch setup?

Well, the stock clutch with a medium spring works fine for the typical modified street bike. Hell, that's what I run in my M2, and my wife's S1, both of which make north of 120hp. 'Course, it's actually torque that the clutch has to hold, it's holding ability is independent of rpm. I wouldn't worry about the stock clutch up to say 110 to 120ft-lbs, assuming you're using the medium spring.

The competition spring is just a little too much for street use, IMO. Hurts my left hand after awhile. But it can extend the clutch into some higher torque levels for land speed racing.

If you're drag racing, or land speed racing with massive amounts of power like I do with my S2, the stock clutch will not hold the torque, or in the case of drag racing, it won't last. The lowest cost way to get some decent holding power and wear is the Barnett Scorpion. They sell a variety of springs for it, including some really hefty duty two-hands-required jobs (what I use in my S2, which makes over 200lb-ft of torque). It's a hub and plates that work in your stock clutch shell. Lots more surface area which helps the drag racer guys with the wear.

Beyond that, Bandit makes some really nice stuff. It's ungodly expensive though.

Really, the stock clutch with a medium spring works fine with the majority of street bikes. Stock plates or Kevlars work well, I've never had any luck with the carbon fibers. I also don't care much for the extra plate kits.

Really, the stock clutch with a medium spring works fine with the majority of street bikes. Stock plates or Kevlars work well, I've never had any luck with the carbon fibers. I also don't care much for the extra plate kits.

sorry for the hijack. but...

What have you found regarding the extra plate kits ? ? ? why don't you like them ?

The extra plate kits never fully disengage and they drag beacuse of that.

Egg zactly. The height of the pack isn't the same. Every time I've put one in, I've ended up taking it out.

sealed of trans huh. i guess thats just another plus for the s&s case.

good info on the clutchs. makes u wonder about the people who swear by the extra kits.

i was thinking about the vpc clutches, i havnt talked to dan or anyone yet about them though. any info?

thanks for the great info aaron