View Full Version : Jockey shifter installed on 04 883
Leadsled
1st May 2006, 16:35
Hey guys just installed the ragerbuilt jockeyshift kit on my 04 883. Great kit had to do some mods due to the kits for an 03. Its a ton of fun not that hard to ride at all I love it. I'll post some pics tonight when i get home.
Preacher
1st May 2006, 18:21
Post Pics NOW!!
:sofa
Everett
1st May 2006, 22:03
i wonder what kinda mods i'd have to do to get it to work on an 88. what kind of mods did you do and take some nice big detailed pics of it so i can compare it to mine and see if i can figure out what i'd have to do. please!!
i have a few pics in my gallery...
Preacher
2nd May 2006, 03:07
i have a few pics in my gallery...
Yeah, but you have no close-ups of the install, the cable end especially. Get to work, damn you! :wonderlan
just throw away the bracket and run the cable up and over your forward control. it took like 20 mins to install and 2 weeks to keep from stalling.
SkippyRay
2nd May 2006, 14:45
whats the cost them ther things, looking to turn my scoot into a ape hanging jockey shifting beast
well kinda like a beast, more like the Nim creature in Surface, compared to the big ass sea monster...you know?
Not only are jockey shifters cool the price can be cool too. There are some cool ones out there, some a little under $200 bucks and some $400-$500 bucks. But what's even cooler is if you have little money you can still fab one yourself with little are no experiance. There really real simple, just check out a few of the home brewed one's here on the forum. Like judas said it took him 20 minutes to install.
SkippyRay
2nd May 2006, 20:29
But ill still need forward, only have highway pegs ATM. so ill add that to the cost the Rager kits looks mmmmm mmmmmm good.
Leadsled
3rd May 2006, 02:43
Hey guys working on uploading the pics should have the shortly
Leadsled
3rd May 2006, 02:50
Well guys sorry it took an extra day but here's the pics. The first one shows the cable going over the factory shift lever. The ragerbuilt bracket needed to be shortend at the end where the cable comes out to get the proper alignment. Also, the cable itself needed to be shortend 1/2" to line up with primary cover. In the second picture my neighbor got the best angle he could so the bracket I welded on to the one that came with the kit. It's just a simple L-shape that bends under the primary with a 1/2" hole to go over the drain plug with a 1/2" nut and fender washer to hold it up there. It's a very uncomplicated modification to get a very good kit to fit the 04 and later bikes.
http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/bracketsweb.jpg
http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/trimmedcableweb.jpg
Leadsled
3rd May 2006, 02:51
Oops, pictures are backwards from description. Sorry 'bout that.
Preacher
3rd May 2006, 02:54
Very cool, thanks for the pics.
Leadsled
3rd May 2006, 02:56
Not a problem thats what this whole things about is sharing right.
xllent01
3rd May 2006, 02:57
Kewl pics, whats the throw distance on the r-built setup?
Leadsled
3rd May 2006, 02:59
The way I have it set it goes from about where the arm was with the shift linkage to flat foot for release so no more than 4-5". It's actually very comfortable.
my dis-engage/engage distance is super short maybe like 3/4" any idea how to make it longer? there is no external adjuster now so i assume its an internal adjustment right? any help would be appreciated as i am stalling or burning out 1/2 the time now.
Leadsled
3rd May 2006, 14:12
I don't know about you but when I put the ramp that holds the clutch cable back in and you turn the flat head adjustment screw back out counter clockwise to set it it starts out bieng super easy to turn and I stopped as soon as I got some resistance plus mabey another 1/8th turn. Hope that helps some with it set like that I've got the throw that I have any tighter I was a little squirly to get the bike going!
ok i'll try that, according to the instructions it said to just barely screw it on.
NXC1978
3rd May 2006, 15:29
Looks nice!!!! :smoke
Leadsled
3rd May 2006, 18:28
Yep taking the scew back out some c/c/w should help. If you watch the arm atached to the clutch cable as you back the scew out the arm will move forward.
haven't been home to check it yet, but im pretty sure its backed out all the way now, are you sure i shouldn't screw it in more?
Leadsled
4th May 2006, 15:33
You should definatly screw it back in if you have it backed all the way out. I think thats you're problem because with it like that you're clutch is almost disengaged set like that so it barley has to move to release it.
NO COAST CHOPPER
6th May 2006, 06:07
Lead sled, what did you do with your turn signals, horn, etc?
renpia
8th May 2006, 04:52
I'm thinking about doing this as well. 2 questions. How are you shifting with your left hand, if you are pulling the clutch lever with the same hand? Did you relocate or have another way to work the clutch? I've seen the clutch mounted to the shifter in some applications. I was thinking of making the shift handle come out of the right side between the rear cylinder and oil tank so that I can shift with the right hand and work the clutch in the left. Anyone done this?
Ken Man Do
8th May 2006, 05:02
Ok, beat me up, but I've been doing some thinking, and there's nothing that more effectively utilizes the arms and the legs than the modern day set-up. So why would you want to putz with THAT by putting on a suicide shifter? (Unlessen of course I've got this all wrong.)
Vegas1200C
8th May 2006, 05:12
The kit has a foot clutch where your shifter would be and you don't do it to be efficient, you do it to be different. I think they look killer and would definately do it to mine if I could find a practical way around keeping my left controls (minus the clutch lever) intact and clean.
Preacher
8th May 2006, 11:16
Ok, beat me up, but I've been doing some thinking, and there's nothing that more effectively utilizes the arms and the legs than the modern day set-up. So why would you want to putz with THAT by putting on a suicide shifter? (Unlessen of course I've got this all wrong.)
First, it's a jockey shift, not a suicide shift. You can have a jockey shift without a suicide clutch, but not vice versa. :p
Second, why mod the bike at all? It works pretty well from the factory, doesn't it? ;)
Reaper6
8th May 2006, 13:14
The kit has a foot clutch where your shifter would be and you don't do it to be efficient, you do it to be different. I think they look killer and would definately do it to mine if I could find a practical way around keeping my left controls (minus the clutch lever) intact and clean.
Hmmmm...? I've been dealing with MS for some time now and I have been losing the "grip" strength in my left hand. When I can ride it can be real difficult holding the clutch in. (Long stop lights, stop and go traffic, etc.) Reading this thread I'm wondering if this wouldn't be the way to go because of the foot clutch. Do you think this would work?
Thanks,
Dave
SkippyRay
8th May 2006, 16:37
I'm thinking about doing this as well. 2 questions. How are you shifting with your left hand, if you are pulling the clutch lever with the same hand? Did you relocate or have another way to work the clutch? I've seen the clutch mounted to the shifter in some applications. I was thinking of making the shift handle come out of the right side between the rear cylinder and oil tank so that I can shift with the right hand and work the clutch in the left. Anyone done this?
answered already but ill address it to you.
You use your left foot as the clutch not the hand lever. That lever will go away. Or you can keep it there to rattle around and F with folks head your choice. The shifter will stay located on the left side of the bike seeing as that is where the trans it at (your foot shifter peg will become the base ffor your Jockey shift of shift handle) Hope this helps. You can have the shifter behind your leg or right alongside your tank, its your choice and your bike DO WHAT YOU WANT!!! You liking what you have is the only thing that matters. If some one doesnt like your ride F'm if the can't take a joke!:wonderlan
Leadsled
8th May 2006, 17:20
Lead sled, what did you do with your turn signals, horn, etc?
All my factory blinkers are still in place and mine started as a bottom of the barrel 883 so the horn is still located up front. If the question was in regaurds to the left switch housing it's still there just pulled the lever off for starters but I'm gonna trim all the exess that mounted the lever of with the band saw. I'm trying to come up with something slick to replace the factory turn signals.
Hey Reaper,
If you go this route, you will never have to worry about your left hand getting cramped. Your clutch will still have the same tension on it, but think of how much stronger your foot is when pressing down, than your hand is when gripping. Never thought about a benefit like that, but there it is. Get your doctor to prescibe it, and your health ins to pay for it, lol.
renpia
9th May 2006, 00:33
Hey Reaper,
If you go this route, you will never have to worry about your left hand getting cramped. Your clutch will still have the same tension on it, but think of how much stronger your foot is when pressing down, than your hand is when gripping. Never thought about a benefit like that, but there it is. Get your doctor to prescibe it, and your health ins to pay for it, lol.
This is the exact benefit of doing this! The hand clutch is murder in traffic and can cause painful cramping that can also result in dangerous situations. Also, my left ankle is not too strong "toe-ing up" from past injuries and this setup would aleviate that situation. So not only is this an aesthetic choice and it looks damn cool, but it also serves a purpose. Plus I found this kick-ass 6-shooter 44 magnum shift nob I want to use!!!
renpia
9th May 2006, 02:37
Does the Ragerbuilt kit come with the forward controls? How do I contact them? Their site's links don't work and I can't e-mail them. Thanks.
Preacher
9th May 2006, 02:50
Just look up a couple of posts... that is the owner.
For the 1ntarw3b ch4ll3ng3d, the website is http://www.ragerbuiltchoppers.com/ :D
a couple of close ups of mine - don't luk at the dirt - been busy or lazy
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL93/471113/9444735/145352100.jpg
her hair covers all the hardware - besides that every body needs a little head
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL93/471113/9444735/145352103.jpg
another roadkill :clap
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL93/471113/9444735/145352106.jpg
renpia
9th May 2006, 04:11
Thanks. Those pics are handy. Did you have to drill through the lever to attach the cable mount?
Sorry for the hijack, but it's related right?
mac99xl883c
9th May 2006, 04:20
Does the Ragerbuilt kit come with the forward controls? How do I contact them? Their site's links don't work and I can't e-mail them. Thanks.
Renpia,
PM Pilot. I've got one of Rager Built Choppers setups and it works great.
Pilot helped out.
Reaper6
9th May 2006, 16:36
To anyone who has installed the Ragerbuilt kit:
How difficult did you find the installation to be? I've decided that due to my MS and the problems I have with my left hand that I'm going to order this thing and I'd like to do the install myself. It'll be going on an '02 XL1200C. I'd like to hear from somebody about their experience putting this on and any special considerations. A sincere "thank you" to all in advance. This could potential be a Godsend.
Leadsled
21st May 2006, 01:19
If you have any mechanical knowlege at all I'd. Say and 1 1/2 hrs tops. Very strait forward and easy.
Scooter_Trash
21st May 2006, 18:00
Tommy, great set up.
Does anyone else have pics of the way the clutch cable connects to the clutch pedal? The Rangerbuilt set up looks clean, but you can't tell how the cable connects to the pedal on their site.
tommy
21st May 2006, 18:09
Tommy, great set up.
Does anyone else have pics of the way the clutch cable connects to the clutch pedal? The Rangerbuilt set up looks clean, but you can't tell how the cable connects to the pedal on their site.
thanks - couple of days ago i rigged up another cable - this one has the fine adjustment in it - more better:clap
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL93/471113/9444735/148518395.jpg
sportsterwheelies
24th May 2006, 16:31
I just finished making a set of forward controls with a foot clutch. Made everything from raw stock. It was actually very easy and works well. Ill post some pics soon. I believe it cost me about 30 bucks total for all the materials.
my dis-engage/engage distance is super short maybe like 3/4" any idea how to make it longer? there is no external adjuster now so i assume its an internal adjustment right? any help would be appreciated as i am stalling or burning out 1/2 the time now.
you can decrease the distance from the cable clamp to the axis of rotation of the lever it is attached to. This will pull the cable less distance, while pushing the pedal that same distance. Dont know how to word it right or if that is even what you are talking about.
johnkiddier
28th May 2006, 23:47
Anyone have an e-mail address for ragerbuilt choppers?
The e-mail function on the website doesn't work.
TNsportster
29th May 2006, 01:44
Anyone have an e-mail address for ragerbuilt choppers?
The e-mail function on the website doesn't work.
reversecrash@hotmail.com
pilot
29th May 2006, 14:13
To everyone who is having trouble with the email link on my site, my web guy is sorting that out and updating the site in the next week. I can be reached at reversecrash@hotmail.com, or you can PM me on this forum. Sorry about any inconvienience.
Walt
tommy
30th May 2006, 23:56
haven't been home to check it yet, but im pretty sure its backed out all the way now, are you sure i shouldn't screw it in more?
i screwed mine in all the way - then backed it of 1/8 turn -
silverswitch
14th August 2006, 23:03
Thats tight. I have also heard on the 04 and up you can just take the shifter portion off the control and turn it around, fashion the cable smaller and it will now pull the cable to open the clutch. Make yourself a shifter rid and your in business. That is my next project, we will see if it is as easy as I have made it sound.
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