It was good. It was chilly up here in canada, but I had to do it. It was like riding my 74 inch ,but with the nitrous on all the time. The roads are a bit dusty and the street tire was new, so i didnt crack it wide open hard yet. The front end will come up and the rear will break free without pinning it!
Its perfect. the lightened pistons and rods and flywheels are pretty cool. The bike will hit 6000 rpm (the limiter is 7k but the shift lights at 6k cause i dont need to see 7k till its at the track.) very quickly. crack the throttle in 2-3rd gear and you have to watch for the shift light. the sound is good...a bit higher pitched than my 74 inch.
well it was the first ride and it ran...heres the parts....

2002 xl custom 88.3 :shhhh
axtell cylinders
je pistons lightened.
zippers tstorm heads 30 degree chamber
lightened buell flywheel
aluminum rods by edge cylinderhead
r&d motorsports pro cut buell tranny whith billet trap door
chain conversion
external oil feeds
screamin eagle tach.
programmable screamin eagle ignition
custom built rinehart 2-1 exhaust.
Red shift 643 cams
ss billet rocker boxes
ss roller rockers
screaming eagle hsr 45 (aka mikuni 45) carb.
velocity stack intake.
nhrs pushrod bases
collapsible pushrod covers
adjustable pushrods
rc comp 3 spoke rims
18 inch 150 low profile rear tire...just fits

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/Narley/Harley%20racing/rodsandflywheel.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/Narley/Harley%20racing/P1000518.jpg

Sounds and looks awesome. Let us know what the ETs are when ya hit the track.

How did you make that exhaust? I like it. Did you just chop up two to make one. Paaalllleassse. Please please tell MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. I gotta know.

Sorry, back to form now.....DID I SAY I LIKED THE PIPES!!!!!!!!

Extremely nice! I'm jealous. Now I want to do my 88" conversion more than ever.

awww shucks, hold on a minute. I got a strange kinda warmish feeling a little like heartburn...wonder what it is. Ohh...I remember what it is now....it's ENVY!

Man, I'm jealous. That's what I want Narley! I want wheelies out of my 1200 custom! I'm afraid to go 88" though. She's the only scoot I got and I'm afraid that might make her a bit much for street cruisin'. Sounds awesome and looks tough man...enjoy!

God bless,
-BunnMan

Sounds and looks GOOD, Narley!!! :clap :clap

Narley, I like the seat because it looks like it is made to hold you on. Also looks really fast. When you gonna get some rearsets for that baby. How about the solid struts. Does that make the ride harsh. Last question, whats that item just above the voltage regulator.

I LOVE that exhaust!


Any dyno numbers would be great as well.

Thanks for comments about the exhaust cause its the icing on the cake. It may be hard to beleieve, but the builder has lots of good contacts. Its a custom built engraved rinehart 2-1 built for just that bike. Its got an etched autograph in it from rinehart of rinehart -bub.
rotten ralph , that thing is the brain for the airshifter...thats also why it doesnt really need rearsets...its a hand clutchless shifter....very cool ,very strong shifts. lets all take a moment and pray for my tranny!
Dyno info .....o.....okay twist my arm.
124 hp and 110 lbs! and that was at 50 miles. we expect with further breakin and tuning time it will be 130hp.

Hey jimmyheadgear,

What's your dyno sheet look like? I just noticed you got an 84-88 incher too.

I had to come back and take another look, Damn that's a nice bike! I can't find anything I don't like about it...

"It was like riding my 74 inch ,but with the nitrous on all the time."



That's why ya go more cubes :D

Sounds and looks like one hell of a ride can I have a GO :tour :tour

Grayfeather.

Hey jimmyheadgear,

What's your dyno sheet look like? I just noticed you got an 84-88 incher too.It's being built right now. I'll post a dyno sheet when I can.
I'm shooting for 100-120 for my numbers. :D

Awesome bike, Narly! Where do you live? I'm in Toronto, all that snow looks familiar. I'd love to see and hear that thing in the flesh!
Don't you worry about salt residue on your bike?

Nice...very, very nice. :clap :clap :clap

Narley,

That bottom end looks real strong. Luverly internals....Nice externals.

Do you think you can keep the front end up over the 1/4 mile? DO NOT FLIP IT!!!!!!!!! :wonderlan :frownone

Nice. Real nice.

Whiffi

The whole 1/4...no...maybe the first 330'. I dont have the skill to do it that long. It will probably pop up during shifts 1-2 and 2-3. but you want to keep the momentum forward not up.

That is one awesome scoot, Narley!! You oughta be proud of yerself! Pass along some ET's when ya get 'em.

I don't want a so radical bike.
Where I live when we talk about motorcycling the difference is made by the man and a well tuned bike, neither the brute force of the horse power, nor the displacement.

What I dream is a Sportster nice like the stock one, with few body works.

Quality aftermarket and well tuned shocks and forks, with some registrations.
A strong engine that is able to deliver a good power and torque in all the band but expecially the mid-range.

So an Ikon, Bitubo or Progressive suspension with good front fork springs, with the right preload and a small frok sliding to make the bike a bit more handle in twisties.

A 1400cc mod, stock heads with a mid tuning for overall efficiency or stage 1/2 job.
A well tuned CV44 or HSR42 with high flow breather.
An exhaust tuned for the right flow and a bit of back pressure, to just don't loose too much low-mid end torque.
Ignition module.
Stock or a bit more aggressive cams.
Tuning of the final gear ratio.

I'll not show to anyone what is on my bike.
I'll have good power delivery for all around driveability.
And if my right hand will become nervous I'll be able to shock who was thinking it was just a stock bike...

Yes you will...good. In the mean time. I will keep eating retro styled Kawasakis....then they will wonder who I am. Who is that man...how well tuned can a Harley be?

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what moor can I say, but I'd love to take a trip around the block a few times if I could, but then I'd end up lookin like this, :yikes :yikes :yikes :yikes

The comments from the zrx 1200 poster seemd to dis the direction this build took. Well whatever, But I couldnt resist. of course I wanted to reply to the dis, but I had to chuckle. THE BEST EVER on the street experience I have had with my bikes was last summer with my nitrous bike. I pulled up on the left so the rider of the retro styled Kawi 1200 couldnt see the bottle...I egged him a bit and he bit. He pulled single file...and there was one vehcle ahead of us then a perfect two lane straightaway . That was the longest single pull on nitrous I have ever run. As he pulled out to pass the car and head back into our lane I geared down and hit the juice and was right on his butt. I hit 4th and was right beside him...I hit 5th juice back on and into a slight tuck and pulled him..... I let off afterwhat had to be 12-15 seconds on the juice.
Months later at a car show ,I was wearing my jacket and the guy recognized the back of it. He confronted me saying that his freind (who we left in the dust) couldnt believe a HARLEY HAD pulled him. I had no problem pulling away from him. That bike may have had gearing for higher top speed, but he didnt have the power to pull it quick enough to keep up at that speed. I wasnt just inching him, I pulled him by a few feet in a few seconds, and the gap increased. Anyways he was impressed. I loved that moment as that was one goal of the build . To own a sleeper. The fella ask how I did it,and I explained, the bike had nitrous and on a hot day with a warm full bottle the bike puts 120lbs of tq down and the same hp. My speedo tops at 220kmh but he had us at 240kmh. I was as proud of that bike as I am of this one. talk to me about your thoughts and designs......when its done...and its working great. Like mine does.

Narley..... Mechano is Italian and lives in Italy.... mainly curves.....

I'd like yours for draggin but mines gonna be a bit more street orientated.......

So I'm gonna use slightly smaller cams, N9's to start with and a milder build and with an air cleaner as it's gonna be my daily rider... :D and I wanta play in the twisties but I don't think it's ever gonna be quicker than my '03 gixxer tho :( (it's got 150 at the rear and weighs under 200kilos wet) but it'll be more fun.

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what moor can I say, but I'd love to take a trip around the block a few times if I could, but then I'd end up lookin like this, :yikes :yikes :yikes :yikes

hey Flamin ...funny thing is after a ride around my block ,thats the same look my neighbours had. :yikes Firstly cause its loud ,secondly ITS WINTER UP HERE!

Narley..... Mechano is Italian and lives in Italy.... mainly curves.....

I'd like yours for draggin but mines gonna be a bit more street orientated.......

So I'm gonna use slightly smaller cams, N9's to start with and a milder build and with an air cleaner as it's gonna be my daily rider... :D and I wanta play in the twisties but I don't think it's ever gonna be quicker than my '03 gixxer tho :( (it's got 150 at the rear and weighs under 200kilos wet) but it'll be more fun.

Hey stevo, yeah i know that , and should have left it alone, could have left it alone cept for two things...firstly dont ever compare what someone has achieved by putting it in bad light in comparison to something you dont even HAVE YET!...and of course secondly cause the bike he has just happen to be the retro kawasaki involved in one of my most memorable street rides ever.
I know though that for sure he wants a machine for handling...few mods ,just a 1400 kit. OOO ps...sorry...leave it alone right. Its like listening to two kids argue.....my father can beat up your father....cept for one of us ...the dad is only a figment of our imagination while the others is real. oooooooo, I digress. Must be bored...it is winter here after all.
So stevo...hows the parts shopping coming...I get the feeling you are almost done...only thing left is to find the time right?
The twisties are great and I live only an hour from a top 10 rated ride in all north america. twisties are a real thrill on a harley....cause they are a greater challenge...however...although shorter the thrill of holding it straight for a quarter mile is still my greatest.
BTW that was my first time with an air shifter....damn that was good...such strong shifts ...the bike just surged ahead. cant wait to get it back out and pull a few full throttle shifts from 2-3 and third to fourth. Steep learning curve with the shifter and the bars. also got some av gas to mix with the torco concentrtate so I can advance the ign a bit.
every ride will be a lesson this year.

Narley, Where did you get that front wheel? What brand is it? I really like the way it looks

Yeah Narley....

I've pretty well got all the bits......now it's just about clearing the time :(

Which is harder than gettn the bits

Here's a list to this stage...

Millenium 88" barrells
Huricane 88" pistons and rings etc
heads will be varied as I have quite a few sets and this will be a development mule....
Heavy duty spring kit with titanium retainers
N9 cams for starters
S&S roller rockers
S&S rod kit.
Probably lightened flywheels.. I have a few sets here...
V-Thunder adjustable pushrods
S&S travel limiters
SE 7500 and 6800 ignition module (S model)
40cv for runnin in, then 42 Mikuni then maybe 44cv
Megacycle 2-1 for starters, then I'll make my own to suit
Dyna shift light





chassis
twin Brembo 4 spots
S model suspension
my own billet fork brace
Ohlins steering dampner
honda xl 250 oil cooler that wraps around the head tube
gonna cut the top out of a tank and put an aircraft filler in
probably a 520 chain drive conversion


that's about it off the top of my head....it will change depending on what I happen to have in stock at the time or feel like doin to it

blue glide.
The wheels are rc comps. marshall model

http://www.rccomponents.com/wheel_show.jsp?category=14565&img=wheels.jpg

Yeah Narley....

I've pretty well got all the bits......now it's just about clearing the time :(

Which is harder than gettn the bits

Here's a list to this stage...

Millenium 88" barrells
Huricane 88" pistons and rings etc

WHAT COMPRESSION?? !)10.5 OR THE 12-1? I have a set of the same cylinders and the 12-1 pistons coming to keep as back ups. If I smoke the 15-1 I have an extra set of those pistons , or I may just lower the cr by goin with the 12-1 pistons.

heads will be varied as I have quite a few sets and this will be a development mule....
Heavy duty spring kit with titanium retainers
N9 cams for starters
S&S roller rockers
S&S rod kit.
Probably lightened flywheels.. I have a few sets here...
V-Thunder adjustable pushrods
S&S travel limiters
SE 7500 and 6800 ignition module (S model)
40cv for runnin in, then 42 Mikuni then maybe 44cv
Megacycle 2-1 for starters, then I'll make my own to suit
Dyna shift light





chassis
twin Brembo 4 spots
S model suspension
my own billet fork brace
Ohlins steering dampner
honda xl 250 oil cooler that wraps around the head tube
gonna cut the top out of a tank and put an aircraft filler in
probably a 520 chain drive conversion


that's about it off the top of my head....it will change depending on what I happen to have in stock at the time or feel like doin to it

I added a question in the body of your reply but I think I have to add some text outside your reply too.

Narley ... Fantastic Sporty you have! Very nice!

I have a dyno sheet. I have highlighted the tq in green and the hp in blue. I had two sepertae dynos one was tq and one was hp. One was over rpm, the other mph. So i have overlayed them the best i can ,just pay careful attention to the different scales for rpm. they are in matching green for tq and blue marks for hp. So just look at tq with the green rpm marks at the top and hp with the bluemarks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/Narley/Harley%20racing/new88inchdynosm.jpg

WHAT COMPRESSION?? !)10.5 OR THE 12-1? I have a set of the same cylinders and the 12-1 pistons coming to keep as back ups. If I smoke the 15-1 I have an extra set of those pistons , or I may just lower the cr by goin with the 12-1 pistons.



I'll be setting it up in the 11.5+ : 1 region

It will depend on what I calculate to be an ideal starting point...and then I'll see what it wants from there

I was running 11.25:1 at 1200 with SE 0.536" cams and the N9's have a later closing inlet so I can go a bit more static...maybe up to 12:1...
I still have to run on pump fuel tho...so I have to err a little on the safe side

I have a 20 litre drum of C16 race fuel with additives for starters....I normally run higher octane fuel initially and then drop the octane back to normal.....
I'll be mixing some of the C16 in with my normal fuel initially for a safety margin.


As I said it's gonna have a few different heads and combinations untill I'm happy with it.....and then I'll probably change stuff just see what has an effect on which area of power..

I want 10's in FULL street trim ie: ride down to Brisbane (1000 miles) and Sydney (1500 miles) and race and then ride back and run thru the twisties too :D all on pump fuel

Initially I'll settle for easy 11's but the goal is 10's consistent.

is it possible or does anybody make the kit for an irony

is it possible or does anybody make the kit for an irony


G'day it's hard to go out much on an iron head as there's even less room in the crankcase around the barrells...


Easiest way out on a Iron head is to stroke it....

Truet & Osborn do wheels

I'll be setting it up in the 11.5+ : 1 region

It will depend on what I calculate to be an ideal starting point...and then I'll see what it wants from there

I was running 11.25:1 at 1200 with SE 0.536" cams and the N9's have a later closing inlet so I can go a bit more static...maybe up to 12:1...
I still have to run on pump fuel tho...so I have to err a little on the safe side

I have a 20 litre drum of C16 race fuel with additives for starters....I normally run higher octane fuel initially and then drop the octane back to normal.....
I'll be mixing some of the C16 in with my normal fuel initially for a safety margin.


As I said it's gonna have a few different heads and combinations untill I'm happy with it.....and then I'll probably change stuff just see what has an effect on which area of power..

I want 10's in FULL street trim ie: ride down to Brisbane (1000 miles) and Sydney (1500 miles) and race and then ride back and run thru the twisties too :D all on pump fuel

Initially I'll settle for easy 11's but the goal is 10's consistent.

well here is my forecast...quote me on it. first dozen runs before i break into the 10's. The maybe 10.8's. Finally with the slick and bars I am hoping for 10.2's.
Its gonna hurt pullin those few dozen 11's.....
The machines up to it...but I am still learning....but again when arent racers still learning?

the only time ya stop learnin is when ya dead.........

I learn a bit more each time I go out...

Which reminds me I've got a race meeting this weekend..I'll have to run it on the gixxer :( ...ahhhh well it'll be doin easy 10's anyway...

the only time ya stop learnin is when ya dead.........

I learn a bit more each time I go out...

Which reminds me I've got a race meeting this weekend..I'll have to run it on the gixxer :( ...ahhhh well it'll be doin easy 10's anyway...

:clap :cry1 ..the torn emotions over all that jap horsepower under 400 pound s stock, ,so remind me why do we do this stuff to our 40 hp bikes! Why?
I could have two turbo hayabusa's with 300 hp each doin high 8's............
:frownthre

"cos anyone can go and buy a late model jappa...

few people have a 10 second harley :D


and I miss my sporty....it was an extension of me that the gixxer will never be....ever..

yeah, thats why....I know....but damn those light 600's and litre class bikes.
How about a 9 second harley?
I want 10's in street trim and low 10's with the bars.

I think the bottom line is the 124 H.P. on the bike. That has got to be fun to ride. I wish I had spent the money when my buddy told me to get the hot 89 kit back in 96. I am sure I would still be running that wonderful kit. Oh well a lesson learned that I can't afford to repeat. Wish I hap that extra 40+ h.p. gives me chills thinking about it.

How would the 88 kit work on an otherwise stock bike, if you just want the torque.

I'm a cruiser, not a racer.....


joe

take a look at the zippers performance web site. They ahve a torque oriented 88 in ch kit.
I have the high compression 88 inch and I have the cylinders andpistons for the 12-1 88 inch kit. i would love to try that kit too.

Narley, my man, that bike sounds sick! You're gonna have alot of fun with that one. I was out at the amteur 1/8 mi races the other night and I was thinking there was a definite lack of Harley muscle out there. I was gonna go home and get my sporty for a laugh but I didn't want to have to line up next to one of those Haybusas and get smoked. I would've lined up with most of the cars though. :-) Can you believe I've put about 1,800 miles on my bike since I bought it in October and no one has even tried to race me yet? They must think its faster than it is!

yep, they think its fast...its black and black is the fastest!
Took the bike out again this sat and sunday. It was about 0c or 32f. but it was sunny and clear. ran some c12 race gas and advanced the timing to the # 6 position. Felt quicker off the line...still cant just give it a full twist in 1st 2nd or 3rd yet. Up to maybe a half twist....1/4 twists on this thing are scary.
Serious thoughts about" I will never be able to floor this thing" had a nice lfoting ofthe front end and floated it for a while. practicing bringing it down with a little rear brake rather than chopping the throttle.

Haha! The only way I ever get the front wheel off the ground is when I hit a really hard bump! That's a big reason why I bought the bike I did. I know if I had the power I'd probably never wear out a front tire. ;-)

Good idea...saves rubber...maybe I will try that.

Great weather again this weekend. Unseasonably warm 14 degrees. Thats about 60 f in the shade, and with the sun and blue skies ,if ya stay out of the shade it feels like 75.

Narley,

Tried to look at the second link, but need a password.

I like the sound of your weather, where are you.
Still around freezing here at night (or below). I have to go to Nottingham tomorrow on the bike and I am not looking forward to it...

Whiffi

Narley -

Went to see your build but the site asked for a password. Can you help?

Sorry , the link wasnt set up to be public.
Its fixed now.
the list of components used are on page one of this thread.

http://photobucket.com/albums/v700/Narley/Harley%20racing/

Bloody spine.
Went out for a short ride sunday. Guessing the new seasons rides were squishing the discs in my lower back and they were swelling. All it took sunday was throwin a leg over afetr lunch. felt the twinge...felt it before...slipped disc or herniated....doesnt hurt right away...the injury swells and the nearby muscles tighten up then it frezzes ya in the position your in. usually the fetal one by then.
Been in bad since sunday. all I can do is lay on my back or right side...for two days now...and the same tommorow. reasonably comfortable till you move too much.
Irony of it. Dug out and measured for the rear shocks to replace the struts...but didnt have time to install them.
btw any one know the travel on stock 13.5 inch rear shocks?

Narley -

Saw some bike pics, but none of the 88" build. Is that your personal page? If so, were you vacationing with the blond in the blue bikini?

Narley -

Saw some bike pics, but none of the 88" build. Is that your personal page? If so, were you vacationing with the blond in the blue bikini?
I was gonna ask the same question. :D :clap


My sportbike buddies question why I built my bike when I could have bought a 600 or an SV that would out perform my Harley. They don't get it.

yeah the bike pics are down at the bottom...you all stopped at the blonde.
The doc came by the house and said I may be 3-4 more days in bed...so I got the wife (the blonde in the pics) to pick up a wireless connection and a laptop....I am good to go...anyone wanna help me spend the next 3-4 days.....