Where to purchase NEW Sportster engines?

[Faralon]

Hey guys, I'm TOTALLY new to the forums. Just got my 1st HD 4weeks ago, an 06 883XL. But I've been thinking about doing a custom build w/ a few friends using all new parts.

I've been looking online for NEW sporstster engines and can't find anyone selling a complete engine. TONS of sides w/ Kits to use on existing engines, but If I wanted to get a Factory / Aftermarket Brand new outta the box sportster engine, where would you guys go?

I talked to one guy who heard you can get crate engines for around $2600. Any validity to that?

I was on HD's official site, and they have prices on new engines for EVERY engine but the sportster...where's the love!

Thanks for the help!

[AOW]

Welcome to the forum but It sounds like you've got a pretty new engine as it is!

[avnsteve]

my guess is HD themselves, use the "contact us" link if there is one, and get a phone number, try to talk with a real person. no one can possibly get all their info on a website. I find talking with real people, they may not know, but they usually know someone who does. HD is the only place i can think of that would have NEW HD stuff.

[Rico 05R]

I think Zippers Performance offers a 100 c.i. that is supposed to bolt right in to the Sportster frame.

[Sportster Girl]

I don't think you can get a 'new' Sportster engine from HD. The VIN on the engine and frame must match....I see engines from wrecks on ebay all the time....trouble is possibly gonna be with your DMV trying to get a title.

[Albie1200]

S&S has a 91" and a 100" motors.

[aswracing]

Not for rubber mounts though.

To buy a new motor or set of cases from HD you have to send in the old cases, or at least the portion with the VIN. We've done it many times. The new one comes in with the same VIN.

[Faralon]

Thanks for the reply's sofar.

I hear the point about the VIN Matching up w/ the VIN on the frame. But what if were going to title it as a custom, so it doesn't have to be factory direct from Harley, and can come from an aftermarket manufacturer like S&S, where the VIN on the Frame doesn't have to match any numbers on the Engine.

Are there aftermarket Sportster engine manufacturers like there are for the big V-Twins, or are we screwed with having to purchase "new" engines from HD/Buell for our sportsters for our project bikes if we want a new non-refurb'd engine.

Agreed, I also need to call someone and talk to a voice.

[picowatt]

Like it was said before, S and S has crate motors available. But they are not cost effective, and they are not complete.

[Faralon]

So what do you guys typically do when looking for an engine for a project but you want a new engine? Buy a new sportster for the engine and part out the rest? Not really serious, but you know.

You want to build a rigid sporster project, and you want a new engine. where do you go?

And no, I'm not using my 06 for a project bike....yet.

[Desertfox]

Actually, I really don't know what the insistance on NEW engine is about. There are plenty of Sporties out there that can be made to run better than new. And it is much more cost effective. As said above, S&S makes their "Sportster style" engines. But they are around eight grand and change. And as stated above, not even complete. No tranny or charging system. Not a very financially attractive proposition. Unles you just MUST have a spanking ass new motor, I'd find an 86 Evo or so, drop some monster jugs on it (from NRHS of course) and go with it. Believe me, you will get alot more respect with a 94 or 100 inch Sporty, than with merely a new one. You can find used ironheads and Evo's on ebay allday long going from $900.00 to $2500.00 depending on age and condition. Another three grand or so for parts and machining, and you can have a bellowing Thunder Monster . And of course much of the cost factor depends on how much of the work you can do youself.

[torxster]

:iagree That thing what he said!!

And if you don't want to / can't wrench it yourself, find a local indy to do the assembly work, you'll still save a ton of cash and end up with a better engine.

It just makes sense (at least, to me). :)

[stevo]

S&S do most of the parts to put a new one together ... although you may have to get gearbox parts off Andrews or Jims

not a cheap option BUT will certainly get you some decent HP if you get someone like Aaron at NRHS to build it for you...

I'd be lookin a 4" * 4" 100ci ....... set up right 150+HP is achievable

[Faralon]

Thanks for the reply D-Fox. Sounds like I need to look for some used engines refurb to better then new condition. The only reason for insisting on new was the potential for factory warranty and the fact that someone buying a new custom might want all new parts instead of everything new, and a refurbed 89 sporty engine.

But it looks like workin new life into an older engine is the way to go.

[jamman]

fog hollow had them in thier catalog , 4995.00 5 speed complete. last years catalog

[Gone]

Check for salvage Sportys on E-bay. I often see then wrecked with 10 to 100 miles on them. Don't get much newer then that.
Jeff

[Sportster1200]

The market for "custom" Sportys is not very good. The price to buy/build an all new Sporty can be more than the equivalent big twin. Coupled with the misinformed idea that a Sportster is a "girl's bike" and is not really a Harley can make it a tough sell.

Kong

[picowatt]

when doind a project bike with a sportster, you just dont use a new engine. thats one of the things about doin a sportster chopper,bobber. You can pick up a used sporty cheap, and covert it to a choper,bobber, cheaper and more useful than any other bike.

[kib_norway]

I agree.

Spending money on a sportster project usually is no good investment. In Norway, the price for a newer used sporty (2000 and up) varies by maximum a couple of thousand dollars (for bikes within the same year model), no matter how many 1000's of dollars spent on mods and options. (The price for a new 06 883 custom is around $22.000 in Norway).

My advice if you want to build a custom based on a sporty is to get an older, crappy sportster cheap, and compromise on price/looks/performance for all the parts you need to buy. Ebay is a good place to find really cheap parts, and with a little patience and luck, it's possible to get very cool and hardly used (or brand new) custom parts for a fragment of the price you'd have to pay at the dealers.

[RatBiker]

Sure you can buy a new motor from the dealer. I am sitting here looking at a brand new stage 1 screaming eagle 1200 motor. With the new motor comes a MSO kind of like a title for the motor . If your worried about title problems dont be .. You take your title your bike with the new motor installed and your MSO to the DMV
they re assign they new motor #s to your title .. ALL new motors come with an MSO even after market ones.. When you buy a new S&S it comes with an MSO.

using a harley engine will make the bike easier to insure..As far as value I'm not so sure. Personally i would pay more for a bike that has and S&S motor than a harley motor.

Some things you may run into using an aftermarket motor your state may change your title from harley to aspt (assembled from parts) ,, If that happens it may not lower the value of your bike but it will make it harder to sell banks will not finance aspt bikes and most insurance companys wont insure them. I also build high dollar custom choppers all of those are aspt titled because we are using custom frames motors front ends etc.

Oh ya one more thing make sure to sit down at the parts counter when they tell you the price of your new harley motor. Chances are high after they tell you you will walk from the parts counter to the salesman and just bike a new bike with the motor you want.

Rat man

[nodak]

ratbiker did you happen to notice the age of this thread ? lol

[RatBiker]

Nodak.

Yes I did.. Did you know that this thread comes up on google in the top 5 listings when you do a search for " New sportster motor" .. No one seemed to answer to persons original question..

I'm sure alot of people read this thread due to it's google listing despite it's age. I figured even know it was old I thought would answer the persons question and perhaps a newbie searching for info on the web would aleast get to read a completed thread with a valid answer..

Sorry to have bothered you so much by replying to an old post . That you felt you needed to point out the date to me and laugh at me.

Rat Man

[nodak]

apology accepted

[jharback]

As everyone else has said you can do a build with a new motor but, not sure that it's really cost effective. Sporty's just don't bring in that much money. Not really financially feasable. However, besides S&S, RevTech also makes sporty size engines and they're about a grand cheaper than S&S. But, once again they don't come with tranny's.

I'd just keep an eye out on ebay for a decent engine and do your own build with that. These engines last. You can turn one into close to a 100 hp for less than 3 grand, especially if you do your own work.

[seraphan6]

Nodak.
Did you know that this thread comes up on google in the top 5 listings when you do a search for " New sportster motor" ..
Rat Man

Yes. That's how I got to this thread. Thanks to Rat Man for answering the original poster's question and thanks to the rest for additional details. I too am thinking about building a custom based on a Sporty motor, and likely will build from a motor or bike sourced on eBay. I will visit the parts counter at my local dealer and ask. I wonder if there's a room somewhere in Milwaukee full of new old stock Evolution rigid mount engines just waiting for a big buyer to scoop them up and sell them to custom builders.

[sportymike02]

Yes. That's how I got to this thread. Thanks to Rat Man for answering the original poster's question and thanks to the rest for additional details. I too am thinking about building a custom based on a Sporty motor, and likely will build from a motor or bike sourced on eBay. I will visit the parts counter at my local dealer and ask. I wonder if there's a room somewhere in Milwaukee full of new old stock Evolution rigid mount engines just waiting for a big buyer to scoop them up and sell them to custom builders.

oooooooohhhhhhhh <shiver>

[boxcardenny]

:smoketry wv harley,they have creat motors from 74 to 103, you might have to call about sporster moters