I went for a ride today and stopped at a bike show. while there the guy from the local h-d dealer told me they had 40% off on helmets at the shop. So off I go to land me a bargin. I hate wearing a helmet but some of my adventures dictate . while at the dealer four alleged biker babes come in wearing leather from head to toe . leather doo rags jackets chaps boots and even hd sunglasses riding on top of there heads . they bought god only knows how much clothing and were talking the talk motherfck this and motherfck that . I walked out side and was smoking a cigarette and talking to the salesman when they come outside and yep you guessed it they all loaded up in a dodge mini-van. what happened to soccer moms ? :yikes

:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh dime a-dozen, aren't they.....

jwb47...maybe all 4 of their bikes broke down today close to the dealer, so they were still able to make it to the bike show and catch the 40 % sale on clothing and accessories.......WTF it could be the new breed or soccer mom's huh

i always get a good laugh at that. i mean if you usually dress with maybe your leather vest on over a flannel like me, its one thing. but i've talked to guys dressed head to toe and they were thinking bout ordering a bike. see a bunch of that lately

funny stuff!

Funny....


And hell, I don't even own a vest. :D

similarly...I'm usually skeptical when someone shows on a jobsite with all new tools

Funny....


And hell, I don't even own a vest. :D
i own one vest it had my( club colors) on it i dont even wear it any more.

Just because they didn't ride in on bikes doesn't mean they don't own one. It is winter time and not everyone is a die hard cold weather rider.
Most of my trips to the dealer have been in my jeep, not on my bike.

The only HD clothing I wear is my leather jacket and I have a t shirt the dealer gave me when I bought my bike.

JWB,
That is a good story! I also think some folks wear leather from head to toe in order to just be seen. Actually riding the bike is the key. If your not connected to the bike, I feel getting all leathered up in over done.
However, it do smell good!

Billy

i just wont spend my money on that stuff when ive got a sporty to support is all im saying.

well i suppose on the up side at least they are securing the mocos financial future. so our beloved h-d's dont go the same way as the indian motorcycle. I just wonder that with all the attention being given to motorcycles why it hasnt enhanced awarness of bikes on the road. wouldnt it be great if we could us all this attention to benefit the everyday rider.

similarly...I'm usually skeptical when someone shows on a jobsite with all new tools

At least they can prove their merits and abilities within the first 5 minutes of start work.

A poser on the road is dangerous.

A poser at work goes home, no one's hurt.

At least they can prove their merits and abilities within the first 5 minutes of start work.

A poser on the road is dangerous.

A poser at work goes home, no one's hurt.


A poser on a mining/construction site is bloody dangerous too....

I've been on a lot of mining shutdowns and I've supervised guys that I've had to put in a corner somewhere and give them a job a kindy kid could do... :rolleyes:

And the worst?????.... aircraft fitters and helicopter mechanics......dunno why but every fixed or rotating wing fitter I've had out on a mine site has a had a mouth bigger than Texas and the ability of a dyslexic canetoad on crack.

I've seen plenty of accidents on job sites from people that were trying to make out they were something they weren't.....


But I like seeing the soccer mums in leather......mmmmmmmmmmmm :shhhh

But I like seeing the soccer mums in leather......mmmmmmmmmmmm Right on Brother, I'm a big fan of 40% of leather in the women's section :wonderlan .

Just because they didn't ride in on bikes doesn't mean they don't own one. It is winter time and not everyone is a die hard cold weather rider.
Most of my trips to the dealer have been in my jeep, not on my bike.

The only HD clothing I wear is my leather jacket and I have a t shirt the dealer gave me when I bought my bike.


Definately should not judge a book by its cover.

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But I like seeing the soccer mums in leather......mmmmmmmmmmmm :shhhh

I'm with Stevo!!!! :D

All the accessories being sold today from leather jackets and chaps to boots, shirts, goggles and so on goes way back to the earliest days of motorcycling of the 'Teens/1920's.

The Dealerships, in order to promote their product, namely motorcycles and the Sport of motorcycling itself, would appeal to their customer base and prospective new customers by offering for sale specialty gear designed for the motorcycle rider.

This 'Special Motorcycling Gear' would prove itself a great revenue source for the Dealers. Motorcycle riders would buy the latest in riding and safety gear for their own protection as well as purchase the Dealers ever growing offering of trinkets such as school style Pennants, post cards, belt buckles, watches, watch fobs, pins and patches and a miriad of other motorcycle trinkets.

This trend would continue thru out motorcyclings early days. Over time the Sport of motorcycling would create and support its own clothing 'Fashion' and further develop their limited 'trinkets' into an ever growing assortment of 'collectibles'. So much so that todays modern motorcycle Dealers can count on a sizeable amount of income from these sales.

Of course, the general public, always looking to cash in on the latest 'Fashion' exercise would start to emulate the motorcyclist look. Step in your enterprising individuals and before long a whole cottage industry would spring up. Slowly but surely as the stigma of the 'Outlaw Biker' image faded from one of 'HolyTerror' to something akin to 'Cool'. The ever inner soul searching 'Joe Citizen' would find himself dressing like and some even trying to pass themselves off as a real 'Biker'.

Still Some even go so far as to purchase an actual motorcycle and ride it!! Nothing wrong with that!

Like it or not, it appears that even 'soccor moms' are getting tattoos, wearing skull jewelry in every form from ankle bracelets to earrings, and of course sporting the biker leather dress look! Some may actual ride on the back of their husbands or boyfriends H-D or Jap ('Metric Cruiser') look-alike motorcycles.

Whats it all mean??....Nothing...at least as far as I'm concerned. People can wear and pretend to be whatever they want. It doesn't bother me in the least. Besides, it helps us 'Real Bikers' blend in the overall scenery.

Slowly but surely as the stigma of the 'Outlaw Biker' image faded from one of 'HolyTerror' to something akin to 'Cool'. The ever inner soul searching 'Joe Citizen' would find himself dressing like and some even trying to pass themselves off as a real 'Biker'.


Whats it all mean??....Nothing...at least as far as I'm concerned. People can wear and pretend to be whatever they want. It doesn't bother me in the least. Besides, it helps us 'Real Bikers' blend in the overall scenery.



Well said .....who cares....

I'm even starting to look almost "mainstream" :shhhh


I find the "hog" patches on the vest to try and look like a 1% amusing tho.....

Hells Accountants....let's go and gang audit somone.... :laugh :laugh

.......The only HD clothing I wear is my leather jacket and I have a t shirt the dealer gave me when I bought my bike.


I should think that t-shirt should be suitaably tattered in all the right places about now. You in a tattered shirt and leather jacket............ummmmmmmmmm.........yeeeehhhhhhh h........ok........here go the dreams again;)

Altough I like the latest populariety we get on motorcycles because of West Coast choppers and OCC, I still miss the 70s and 80s when you saw somebody wearing a motorcycle jacket or an HD t shirt it was a high chance he rode one. Yes there where many bars and resteraunts that did not welcome are hard earned money, but the ones that did where rockin joints to hang out in. When ya seen somebody dressed like a biker having trouble ya helped him out and had a new buddy for life. Most of the new riders and poosers theas day do not understand that. PITY

..............Hells Accountants....let's go and gang audit somone.... :laugh :laugh


sounds good........HAccMC............can all sit in a circle and spin the calculator.....first accessory pak it points to, we skim profit off the bottom line:clap

Well said .....who cares....

I'm even starting to look almost "mainstream" :shhhh


I find the "hog" patches on the vest to try and look like a 1% amusing tho.....

Hells Accountants....let's go and gang audit somone.... :laugh :laugh


Yeah.....'Rich Angels M/C' :smackh

I should think that t-shirt should be suitaably tattered in all the right places about now. You in a tattered shirt and leather jacket............ummmmmmmmmm.........yeeeehhhhhhh h........ok........here go the dreams again;)


Hey Dar, This thread does not mean you can break out the assless chaps you had in college. :yikes

one thing you can't fake, long hair and full beards , fadded tattoos are also hard to fake

look real close to a posers boots , if they are new and crisp with little sign of ware on the soles , its a good bet he's (or she's) a poser
sure some times a real rider will get a new pair of boots but it don't take long for him to ware them down

oil stains also show a rider (wrencher) as appossed to a rider (hog card and cell phone)

but the only true test is "how many times do you pass by them on their bikes" (and wave of course)

Yeah.....'Rich Angels M/C' :smackh


RAMC.................ram c..........oh god, what conclusion you could draw from that :laugh

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now thats just sick

oh well didnt mean to offend anybody I guess Im just a die hard cold weather biker ( 58 degrees today) who thought it was odd to wear your leather if your not on your bike.

c : enter : ###


now thats just sick


reminds me of an initiation rite used back in the 60s, I'd explain it, but we got to move the thread........

oh well didnt mean to offend anybody I guess Im just a die hard cold weather biker ( 58 degrees today) who thought it was odd to wear your leather if your not on your bike.

wearing leather ain't bad.......fact I know couple girls in Amsterdam who could teach you a whole new meaning of leather...........:shhhh

a "gamer" freind showed me that one at the bar one night , I almost fell off my barstool laughing my a$$ off

a "gamer" freind showed me that one at the bar one night , I almost fell off my barstool laughing my a$$ off

I can think of dozens of times to use it, especially sending correspondence to the IRS............:clap

yep , that be a good one

I don't particularly care what anyone wears. If folks who don't ride want to wear "biker" stuff, it certainly doesn't have any effect on me. I can't afford Harley clothing and if they can, well more power to them. The only time it bothers me with the motorcycle-less folks who have jumped on the "biker" bandwagon is at some of the motorcycle events I've been too recently.

Went to Carlisle, PA event last year...never been to it before and it was reputed to be pretty huge. It was a great ride up through some pretty country. When we got to Carlisle it was total gridlock for 4-5 blocks to get into the fairgrounds. It took us about 1 1/2-2 hours to go 4-5 blocks. We wanted to turn around and just ride more than once, but we were stuck in the mess pretty much. Anyway, we got in finally and saw that OCC was there so there was a HUGE contingent of folks there who were apparently fans of the show.

We walked around for a while and looked at the bikes and vendors and decided to leave. Leaving was more difficult than getting in almost. The biggest problem was that there were as many cages there as bikes I think. A lot, if not most, of those cages occupied by OCC fans who didn't own a bike. Being fans of a motorcycle show and wanting to see the OCC guys didn't bother me about them either. What really bothered me was how rude they were. They were at a motorcycle event and were just plain rude to motorcyclists!

When we were trying to get out of the parking lot, we sat at the end of the aisle and waited for a break in the line to get out. It was bumper to bumper cars and we soon realized they were not going to let us in line. We sat there for about 1/2 hour-45 minutes. We asked several folks to let us in and they all said no. Finally, our friend tried to ease his bike into line. Well, the dude in the pick up truck pulled up and bumped his truck into our friend's bike, nearly knocking him over! We were stunned!

We backed off, not wanting to cause or get into trouble. Finally, our motioning paid off and a car let us pass straight through the line and we went down to the next line that was filled with mostly motorcycles, who immediately let us get in line with them and we shared the creep and crawl out of the fairgrounds.

That, to me, is the difference between the so called "posers" and true bikers. It has nothing to do with what they wear and everything to do with brotherhood.

Boy Kath that nailhead never seen that hammer coming . Ca I call ya one of my sisters

That, to me, is the difference between the so called "posers" and true bikers. It has nothing to do with what they wear and everything to do with brotherhood.


Amen....The road is a mistress and a drug at the same time.....

and a fellow addict recognises the common goal and the common affliction....

That's the part the wannabees and hangers on will never understand....


Talk to a truckie... he'll have a similar view point as his life is the road....and the freedom that brings

If someone bumped my bike..they would not be driving their car home because neither them nor the car would be drivable.

Sometimes when I see HD riders wearing all their stuff I only can think of CARNEVAL!!!!! :D :D :D

But its their problem and not mine!!!! :shhhh ;)

Sometimes when I see HD riders wearing all their stuff I only can think of CARNEVAL!!!!! :D :D :D

But its their problem and not mine!!!! :shhhh ;)
Some folks are proud to ride/own a Harley and we don't view it as a problem. Maybe we're like addicts and admitting we have a problem is the first step to recover. Thanks for enlightening me Missy.I love the MoCo (http://www.xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2377).

I wear my leather jacket all the time, whether I'm riding or not. 'sept when it's hot out. I want people to think I'm bad a$$.

People are people. It does make you smile to picture the image originally described. Especially when you consider that he said they were cussing like sailors, it was an entire experience not just their clothes I think that he was trying to convey.

That said, I don't care what people wear. Sure, you might gleam something from it but not necessarily. I'm a perfect example. I got hair past my shoulder blades, beard, tats, wear grease-stained blue jeans and a leather cowboy hat. Most folks that judge on outward looks would think me a criminal, a biker, a freak or some combination there of. lol. What they don't know is that I spent more than a decade in a highly successful law enforcement career before I decided to do something different.

What they also don't know is that I waited 35yrs to own one single thing that said HD on it. Just never figured it was right. But on the flip side, I've been wearing NASCAR hats for twenty years and I don't own a race car.

I don't blame folks or get angry when I see they are obviously judging me by my apperance. Afterall, I'm the one projecting it. In every communication there is a sender and a receiver. But I have to admit, it is slightly gratifying when a khaki-wearing engineer (I work around a bunch of 'em) starts acting like I'm a janitor or something and I say, "Excuse me one second," and access/walk into the Security Command Center. An area only a handful of us have access to. They hate that! Why does that long-hair have the badge access/codes to get in there and I don't!? It's the simple pleasures in life.

Now I won't get started on the WCC and OCC stuff. More power to those guys, hell I'm a capitalist. I just can't believe the stuff people buy. I mean I'm standing there getting a key made and on the shelf in front of me is a WCC mini-multi tool key chain. Sheesh.

reminds me of an initiation rite used back in the 60s, I'd explain it, but we got to move the thread........
ive never done it my self but ive heard about it pretty gross!

Here around college people use to wear biker shirts all the time. It was all of the preppy kids. I would just laugh at them in my own head. Now they have moved away from that and now they are wearing John Deere hats. Now that makes me mad because they wear them to the side. Just because it is a "trucker hat" they have to wear one to fit in. I once had someone come up to me and said, "you wearing a trucker hat". I was quite confused about this because I do not refer to them as trucker hats, I refer to them as summer hats because they are vented on the back. Just because of that I stoped wearing a hat. To me John Deere is like Harley Davidson, I have a lot of respect for them. I grew up in a farming community were somebody has a relative that farms. My grandpas had John Deere, Allis Chalmer, Ford, and Cockshut tractors. I live on a small farm so I can talk about this. I do not have respect for those kinds of people. They butcher something just so they can fit with the in crowd. I want to tell them to get a life and leave mine alone. This may sound a little harsh but it is not.

I feel another story comin' on... :p

I grew up in a farming community were somebody has a relative that farms. My grandpas had John Deere, Allis Chalmer, Ford, and Cockshut tractors. Ahh, another fine Milwaukee company.

Yeah, I'm a Ford and Farmall fan myself.

Ooops, that made me think... I have a John Deere hat, but I mow my lawn with a YardMan... I guess I'm a poser :D

Gazza

wearing leather ain't bad.......fact I know couple girls in Amsterdam who could teach you a whole new meaning of leather...........:shhhh
lol im sure you do know a couple of girls in amsterdam . but im afraid that even with the mild weather yesterday the kinda leather your refering to would be a bit breezy.

I think to a certain extent we're all posers. I asked a guy in a Denny's who had a Harley hat on if he actually owned one. His answer was, "no," but I would like to someday. I say to each his/her own. If wearing Harley gear is all that it takes to be a poser then I'm guilty many times over. However, I like the gear much better than other aftermarket things I have purchased so why not stay with the things that are comfortable. Again, to each his own...

Stephen Hawk

Here is something I just thunked about when talking posers, Your at a biker event and it is raining cats and dogs {no offence meant to cats or dogs, some of my best freinds are cats and dogs} this is when ya can seperate the possers from the riders by what they are wearing. If the are wearing a rainsuit chances are this is not their first time riding in the rain and they are sick and tired of getting soaked to the bone riding in the rain. The ones you see wearing leathers and shivering and telling the people wearing yellow rainsuits they look ridiculas may be possers. The ones you see when the weather is nice but now that it is crappy weather and they stay home because they do not want to get wet and cold even though there are some good rainsuits are a high probability of being the ultimate posser

I'm not a "Harley-guy", nor will I ever insult the breed by pretending to be one. You see, I met what I consider to be a real "Harley-guy" once (granted this is just my image of a Harley-guy and not meant to bust anyone’s bubble, so don't take offense). It was the Summer of ‘87 and I was working the tree line (clearing power lines) in the Adirondacks near Lake George. One day we were taking a break along a highway and we noticed a biker go by. His bike was smoking and obviously not running well and he stopped a short way away. He was dressed like a biker and could have easily replaced Billy on that one movie (Yeah I'm talking about Easy Rider). We went back to work but eventually he came over to our foreman and signed on…. just like that. He worked for about a month and a half with us and had no problem handling a chainsaw or keeping up with even the toughest of us. He spend most of his time tinkering on his bike near the hotel but he also hung out down at the bar we frequented. When we did go out and man could that dude drink.

He was a blast to hang out with and although at first I didn't believe any of his stories, after I got to know him, I found he was the real deal and he made a real impression on me (I was 18 at the time). Humble in a self-deprecating way, but also ready to mix it up when he felt slighted unjustly, he was one of the most colorful people I'd ever met. He also had that ruffian nobility to him. He was not into any of the sick shit some bikers are into and although he'd pipe a joint, I'm pretty sure he'd have kicked my butt if I'd tried to do the same.

He left pretty much the way he came. One day we woke up and his bike was gone. He didn't even get his last paycheck (by the roll of money he had in his bedroll, I don't think he was hurting for money anyways). No note or anything. He was a hardcore rider and drifter and he's what I always think of when I think of a "Harley-guy".

-Sting

Here is something I just thunked about when talking posers, Your at a biker event and it is raining cats and dogs {no offence meant to cats or dogs, some of my best freinds are cats and dogs} this is when ya can seperate the possers from the riders by what they are wearing. If the are wearing a rainsuit chances are this is not their first time riding in the rain and they are sick and tired of getting soaked to the bone riding in the rain. The ones you see wearing leathers and shivering and telling the people wearing yellow rainsuits they look ridiculas may be possers. The ones you see when the weather is nice but now that it is crappy weather and they stay home because they do not want to get wet and cold even though there are some good rainsuits are a high probability of being the ultimate posser

I guess I'm just not up on what is contemporary. I don't get this "poser" thing. to me anyone can be an enthusiast. I don't drive a NASCAR Race CAR but I like wearing the t-shirt and watching it on tv. Am I a poser? Just because someone is a H-D fan and doesn't own one, he is something less than I am? Daryl Waltrip drives a race car, he doesn't work on it in the pits. Is he a poser? I think a lot of us have seen "The Wild One" and "Easy Rider" one time too many on tv. I can't believe how easily we can judge others (that we don't even know) so harshly.

Well I thought I would clean up my act when I found my sporty so I cleaned up my vest and put the Hog Patch I got with the 1200 to cover a hole left by my old patch and invested in a new set of boots and summer riding gloves S##T I must look likle a poser. will have to fix that.

Grayfeather :yikes

What is a true poser............Thats a hard question to answer. I dont wear the so called biker outfit cuz I dont want to look like a poser, yet I own and ride a Harley. All I wear is a leather jacket { not a HD jacket } t-shirt { Not a HD t-shirt } blue jeans and cowboy boots { well worn } I do wear a HD ball cap and my helmet is just a skull cap { not DOT approved } and my shades are cheap Wallmart speicals. I guess I look foolish but hay this is who I am. Am I a poser????? You tell me, I dont really know ???

[QUOTE=jwb47] while there the guy from the local h-d dealer told me they had 40% off on helmets at the shop.

They had the same at my Local. I got a great deal on a FF that was 295 orig for 89 bucks. Now that translates into it should have cost 190 bucks online but I still made out. (Rule of thumb, anything with HD on costs 2x the normall price. Buy off brand and paint the HD on later)

hehe Love how no matter WHAT "Scene" your in or talking with this topic ALWAYS comes up, but its not really that hard of a question to answer, its all about the Reason.......

Real Fan / rider / user / etc.. = is into Said hobby / Scene for 1 reason...they REALLY like it and will still like it years from now. Just because some one is new to some thing does not make them a poser..we where ALL new at EVERY thing at one time.

Poser / WannaBe = is into Said hobby / Scene JUST because it it In fansion / trenedy / cool at the mement. These people dont really like or understand the thing the are "supposedly" into & in a year will likely be into something else; ie what ever is "Cool" next year

dont worry the "Posers" will be gone just as fast as they came & only the real will remain.. some old & some new.

Peace out

Ooops, that made me think... I have a John Deere hat, but I mow my lawn with a YardMan... I guess I'm a poser :D

Gazza

I'll let it slide this time. ;)

Sting hit the nail right on the head--there are very, very few bikers out there. I've ridden bikes since I was a teenager when I saved up enough to buy my first motorcycle, a Honda CB350. I've always owned import motorcycles and didn't buy a Harley until last year. I do not consider myself a "biker", although my co-workers call me a biker because I ride a Harley. I am a motorcyclist who happens to ride a Harley-Davidson.

To give you an example as to where I'm going with this, I have a co-worker who I ride with quite often and he owns a Kawasaki Vulcan. No one in the office calls him a biker. My opinion is that there is a perception by the general public that if you own a Harley-Davidson that you are a biker--nothing, of course, could be further from the truth.

I think most non-motorcyclists feel that if you can afford a Harley-Davidson (even a Sportster, which I am proud to own) then you are a pretty serious motorcyclist (which I am) and must be a "biker". I always wear a leather jacket for protection (it's not a Harley jacket, but it's a good jacket) and I wear a full face helmet, gloves and good boots. A biker? I'm not worthy of being called a biker (but I'm sure there are several real bikers that visit this forum). Nor am I a poser. Matter of fact, when most people find out I ride a motorcycle, they are quite surprised when I tell them I ride a Harley. They will say something like "you don't look like the Harley type", whatever that means.

By the way, I do own a couple of Harley t-shirts and a Harley ball cap or two, but I didn't get them until I owned a Harley. I just find this whole biker thing to be quite interesting.

uuuuuuuummmmmmmmm............
i think im confused again
when did all the rules and uniforms get established???????????????

uuuuuuuummmmmmmmm............
i think im confused again
when did all the rules and uniforms get established???????????????

Your not the only one who's confused. When you say "biker", do mean like a Hell's Angel or an Outlaw? Those guys are called 1%ers.

There's an old statistic that says only 1% of "motorcyclists" live the non-conforming, law-breaking lifestyle.

Is that what you consider "biker"?

Sorry for the confusion. A biker is not an outlaw or a gang at all, in my opinion. I think a real biker is someone who rides no matter what the weather, knows how to take their bike apart and put it back together, and rides his/her bike more than or as much as their car.

I just see a lot of people buying into this Harley thing and they don't put 1,000 miles a year on their bikes. If you don't ride a Road King or Fat Boy or wear the proper Harley attire, you aren't part of the clique. These same people look down their noses at me because I choose to ride a Sportster--and I've been riding longer than most of them, I'm sure. I just didn't see this going on all those years I was riding Hondas, Yamahas, Kawasakis, etc. Or, maybe it was happening and I was just too stupid to notice?

Didn't mean to confuse anyone nor would I ever want to offend anyone. I just get a kick out of watching people and how they tend to fall into the latest trends. Now it's Harley-Davidsons; I wonder what's next for our baby boomer generation?

Just my casual observation--I tend to overanalyze things, I guess (lots of psychology courses back in college--they were easy electives). Please don't read anything into it, it's no big deal. Just my 2 cents, which doesn't mean a whole bunch.

Just be who you are, not what you want others to see you as...............................................

This topic sort of hits home for me. My wife doesn't share my love of motorcycles...that is the short version. As a matter of fact the purchase of my bike nearly destroyed my marriage and she has never even sat on my bike. This will give you an idea of how much she hates it (and probably me for having it). Anyway, you can imagine how shocked I was to see her come out one day in one of those nice $50+ button up HD shirts. It sort of set me off because to me riding a motorcylce isn't a freaking style show. And here she is standing in front of me all 'posered' up. That was my first impression which I'm sure stemmed from me not being happy that her and I can not enjoy this bike together. BUT SHE DID LOOK DAMN HOT IN IT! :) (I probably should have told her that...hindsight is always 20/20) ANyway, that was at least a couple of years ago and since then I've noticed a lot more people buying HD clothing that I know for a fact do not ride. Truth of the matter is that HD clothing has become sort of a fad in some areas and you are seeing it all over the place. So, I no longer look at those people buying clothes and think they are posing, more they are just trying to wear what is in style....and that has been going on since the fig leaf:)

......... My wife doesn't share my love of motorcycles...that is the short version.............

I know what you mean, wife knew I rode before we married 34 years ago and has always had this simmering "p*ssed off" look when I'm not only out on the bike, but even when I'm working on it. She's never touched it, much less even considered being on it. We are two separate people, with neither posing to be a part of the other's. But we get along and love each other.

Our lives were shaped before we met, and for either of us to change for the other, would first make us untrue to ourselves.............and second make us both posers.

Be what you are..............if you can't live with that, then how can you expect anyone else to.

Well said. I understand completely.

Just be who you are, not what you want others to see you as...............................................

Exactly. It sounds to me like an issue with insecurity. Posers are insecure. Maybe your trying too hard to fit your description of a "biker". Just ride the damn bike.

I love to ride with a passion and conviction. That's enough for me. If people want to call me biker, thats fine. If they want to call me a poser, thats fine too. I don't give a f :censor k.

When I finished all the stuff on my bike (see It's a Bagger Now), my wife was letting the dog out the door just as I was coming in from the garage. I waved her to come and look, and she almost reeled."It's so beautiful" was all she said.
I had her sit on the back to be certain the hard bags would not hinder her riding position, "No problem, it's perfect."
I got my first two wheel ride when I was 11, a L'il Indian minibike used and broken for 15 bucks. Never stopped since then.
The bike would not be near as enjoyable if I could not share the fun with Momma on the back.
She knew, and shared the love of motorcycling when we met, still loves it 20 years later.
I have no malice towards posers, they are, what they are.
My Best

I can't recall the last time I rode the bike to the dealer, for the most part I go to the dealer to get a part, I think the last time I was there I drove the Jeep.

Yea, I can walk by all the displays of crap. I've got all the chrome I want. I have one
H-D T-shirt.

It's kinda like being a little pregnant, pick one. You either are or your not - not much room for kinda, sorta, maybe....

That being said ..... the "hopefull" pervert (what's the sense of being a pervert, if you don't have hope?), in me does think, that a soccer Mom in leather does have some appeal.....

There's an old statistic that says only 1% of "motorcyclists" live the non-conforming, law-breaking lifestyle.

I am soooooo an outlaw biker. Yep got that Stage 1 mod on my bike. That's illegal you know!? But damn the man for trying to rodeo my high. I'm a free bird man, I live by the law of nature and the road. Ya know brother?

I'm gonna grab me a big ole glass of that milk in the fridge that expired yeterday and really feel my blood pulse! Mamma's lock up your daughters, the EPA Outlaw is screaming into town!!! (At nothing more than 3-5mph over the posted speed limit of course, speeding is dangerous).

:D :tour

i don't have ANY HD tshirts, am i a 1% er or a poser? Also don't have any stickers on my cages. i think i must have some kind of affliction.

I stopped by a guy's house over the weekend that I know for a fact has been riding for the past 40 years. He owns a 196? Matchless and an Electra Glide. I was real surprised to see Harley Davidson in 8" letters across the back of his cage. Is he a 'Poser'? I don't think so.

dang this thing has got way out of hand. I dont have an issue with riders wearing leather , I have a very good set .chaps gloves and jackets are safety equipment I am all for increasing a persons survivability when riding. personally I take off my leathers and store them in my bags when I get to where im going , but thats just me. my whole point was I thought it was an odd scene and found it funny. much like the guy bragging about his v-rod to the babe and a woman walks up gets on the bike and rides off. It would of been just as funny if they had been wearing cocktail dresses and rode off on a harley. thats all I meant no disrespect for anybody who rides and if you want to wear an h-d t-shirt go for it I have a couple . I wont waste band width on this subject again.

I am more worried about looking like a biker dork than a poser!!!

I still say its not what you wear that makes you a posser or a biker, it is why you wear what you wear that defines a biker from a posser. Just like my yellow rainsuit that never leaves home without me, I may need it. No fashion statement in that at all.

This whole I'm a POSER or 1% bullshit makes me laugh.:laugh

When you buy a H-D you have bought into a culture.

Who the hell cares what someone is dressed like or looks
like. Take for example Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead, do you
think JG and the band thought that there fans were POSERS cause
they all wore tye dye shirts and pants? Hell no it was a life style
for most people. JG was a capitalist like anybody else, he showed up
and the fans bought everything in sight that had the Dead on it.
Same thing with H-D as long as they sell high fashion fools will beat
down the door to buy it.

I ride cause it has been my passion for over 3 decades, I dont need
to impress people that i see on the road while riding. Will i stop to
help when you are broken down, sure i will, as long as i feel comfortable
with the situation and i would hope you would do the same thing for me.
Read the story "HE RIDES ALONE" alot of truth and meaning to the whole thing.:yikes

I'm going to read that story again,hell I printed it out,Good stuff.Can't read it right now though cause I'm on my way over to the dealer to buy another T-shirt.Got to scuff up my new riding boots though before I go,don't want anyone thinking I'm a poser............. :chtwo .........this godamn thread just as played as the "Someone called my bike a girls bike,what should I do?".The ones that this meaningless shit means anything to are the ones with either too much time on their hands or on the keyboards, or will NEVER "get it".What the hell is "It"? Take this weekend and start heading in any direction,leave the cell phone home,tell everyone you'll see them Monday,burn a few tanks of gas,then turn around and do it again without concern for what you have on,who you wave to and life in generel,just frickin ride,your ride nobody else's,for you and only you and you might just find "It".

*Apology to anyone this ticks off,just a rant,blowing off steam,and just my opinion,stay safe all.*

Well I must really be a poser. When I ride I wear a black and yellow Joe Rocket jacket and a helmet with face shield. I think this poser thing is BS. If it is so important to you guys why don't you boycot the MoCo until they require purchasers of their over-priced Trade-Marked clothes and accesories to show the VIN number of thier HD bike before they can buy anything. Face it, HD loves it and they promote it.

I am also one of those professional office types that ride a HD. I don't get as many miles on it that I like, but I ride whenever I can. Weather permiting I ride it to work (70 miles round trip). I started riding again after a 25 year gap. After putting kids through college and building up my business to a point I could afford it, I finally bought my HD. Frankly, I don't try to fit in anywhere. I wear what I want when I want, and if someone doesn't want to approve tuff shit. I bought the bike because I enjoy riding, not to be part of a biker cult. That being said, I want you guys to know I still like you even if you don't own a nice bright yellow and black Roe Rocket jacket. So if you see a 250 lb bumble bee coming down the road at you its me. :tour

Man,
I've got friends that wear Harley shirts and some of them don't ride at all. One of them rides a Suzuki, while some ride dirt bikes and quads, etc. They aren't posers. They just like Harleys and their other priorities won't allow it right now. I used to wear harley shirts when I rode a Yamaha. I wasn't a poser then either. I just always wanted a Harley. I now have 3 shirts, a calender, coffee cup, etc. and I've only owned the bloody thing since Sept. (It was a very Harley Xmas!) I don't think I'm a poser either. I ride when I want to and wear whatever I want to when doing so. Full face helmet and all! :-)

I confess I'm a POSER. HD brain bucket, HD scooter, Black boots, black leather jacket, black leather chaps and a partritage in a pear tree

I confess I'm a POSER. HD brain bucket, HD scooter, Black boots, black leather jacket, black leather chaps and a partritage in a pear tree

I'm glad to see you Finally Came Out of the Closet Snuffy!!!!!!
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Well I must really be a poser. When I ride I wear a black and yellow Joe Rocket jacket and a helmet with face shield. I think this poser thing is BS. If it is so important to you guys why don't you boycot the MoCo until they require purchasers of their over-priced Trade-Marked clothes and accesories to show the VIN number of thier HD bike before they can buy anything. Face it, HD loves it and they promote it.

I am also one of those professional office types that ride a HD. I don't get as many miles on it that I like, but I ride whenever I can. Weather permiting I ride it to work (70 miles round trip). I started riding again after a 25 year gap. After putting kids through college and building up my business to a point I could afford it, I finally bought my HD. Frankly, I don't try to fit in anywhere. I wear what I want when I want, and if someone doesn't want to approve tuff shit. I bought the bike because I enjoy riding, not to be part of a biker cult. That being said, I want you guys to know I still like you even if you don't own a nice bright yellow and black Roe Rocket jacket. So if you see a 250 lb bumble bee coming down the road at you its me. :tour

Very well said Dale G. I've got a similar story.

I'm about to turn fifty and after other life responsibilites, I'm now at a point where I was able to buy the Harley I've been yearning for for years and ride again. I don't give a shit what other people think. I'm too damn old to give a rat's a**.

Poser? Hell, I've been called worse. :D

Ralph
Georgetown, Texas

Ever since a bad one in '78, I wear leather when I ride. Thick, heavy, track legal leather thats reinforced in the right places and actually -designed- to protect my fragile hide. A mismatched and motley assortment of Bates, Teknik, Fox, and US Govt issue leather covers everything that my old Bell Star doesn't. It isn't always comfy, and it was never supposed to be pretty.
It ain't about a fashion statement. To me, it's common sense.

Last few years, though, I've taken to hiding the whole ensamble under paint stained sweats, lest I be mistaken for a lemming.

Talk to a truckie... he'll have a similar view point as his life is the road....and the freedom that brings

Truckies and Bikies only exist down under... up here Truckers and Bikers would take exception to that term..... :banana

I guess I'm just not up on what is contemporary. I don't get this "poser" thing. to me anyone can be an enthusiast. I don't drive a NASCAR Race CAR but I like wearing the t-shirt and watching it on tv. Am I a poser? Just because someone is a H-D fan and doesn't own one, he is something less than I am? Daryl Waltrip drives a race car, he doesn't work on it in the pits. Is he a poser? I think a lot of us have seen "The Wild One" and "Easy Rider" one time too many on tv. I can't believe how easily we can judge others (that we don't even know) so harshly.

Poseurs just want to be seen, bikers just want to ride. Wearing a t-shirt don't mean nothing, it's all in the attitude of the person wearing it.

I just bought my first Harley leather jacket this year. Just a simple H-D logo on the left breast side, no other markings. I'm not a big fan of the leather jackets that have 250 zippers, belts, buckles, etc. I'm NOT bad-mouthing anyone who may like and/or wear these jacket types - just not my style. I also bought a pair of black leather chaps - for which I catch plenty of flack from my fellow dirty factory workers, and I wear a full-face HJC helmet. (My brother worked at a cycle shop - got me a good price on it). Now my reasons - I live 20 minutes of highway miles from work. I can't recall how many stories I've read where leathers have made the difference between minor injury and something very serious, Not to mention they're considerably warmer than just wearing my blue jeans - especially at 6am in the morning. The full face helmet serves 2 purposes - I used to race motocross and have had my melon saved by a full face helmet on more than one occasion. The second is the wind/bug/etc protection the full face shield provides.
I own several H-D T-shirts, and wear them as I would any other T-shirt. Not sure I would wear one if I didn't own the Harley though. My favorite is the "If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand".
Oh, I also carry my H.O.G. card with me at all times, use it to get pins at Americade, participate in the ABC's of touring, mileage, etc.
Does this make me a poser? Does this make me a less than "true biker"?
Don't know, don't care. All I know is that I love to ride my Sporty, and do so any chance I get.

I like going into the dealership in my Ford Thunderbird wearing my business attire - wool and cashmire jacket, button up dress shirt, nice wool slacks, shined up dress shoes - and get all the looks from the real bikers with the beards, sleeveless shirts, busted boots, etc.

Then I get a kick out of going up to the parts counter with 3 quarts of oil, a filter, fork springs and tire tubes. "Yeah, I come here to get the shit I need to work on my bike, while you come here to drool over the bikes".

What now, bitches.

i like to ride my sporty, if i could get away with it...(legally and safely) I'd ride naked, I avoid HD brand stuff because of the stigma attached to the "poser" population. F_ck it, I know who and what I am...

Well I've reciently heard the term "live to own", and I think that about sums it up... As far as posers... they come and go... the ones that count will be around for a while...

Remeber the guys name from the Star Trek epsiods that never returns to the Enterprize? You know the one you've never seen before on any episode... Is he a poser? Or just really unlucky?

My take 1%ers, Rubs and Posers

First 1%ers, I don't think anyone would ever mistake me for a 1%er. Don't walk the walk Or talk the talk. I ride as much as I can and enjoy every minute of it, but it's not my Life.
Second RUBs, Rich Urban Bikers. Well Thats Pretty much out. First I’m closer to poor than rich. Second, I’m not Urban, I’m Country. Third, We’ll get to that later.
Next POSER. Been thinking alot bout this Poser thing for a while. Seems like, if you have a decal on your truck, wear a jacket or a cap with a HD logo on it, or wear a T-shirt that refers to a dealer or [God Forbid] Harley Davidson, your a Poser.
When I got out of the Navy in ‘71, I got a very used Triumph, in three boxes. I put it together and rode it for years. We only had one car and my then wife worked a distance from home. I rode that bike Everywhere. I even took our two sons to Elementary school on it. [try that today] Shuttled them to school one at a time, then went to work. Didn’t own a leather jacket, HD cap or T-shirt, there was never any extra money to waste like that after rent, food and clothing. I never remember anyone calling me a Poser, or for that matter, anything else.
Worked and advanced, along the way I Got Divorced, bought a house, parked my bike, raised my boys and took over the small shop that I worked at. I Fished and Hunted for hobbies. I wore caps that said NRA, Winchester, Evinrude, Rugar and the like. Never was called A Poser. Followed Football and Baseball, wore caps, shirts and Jackets [could even afford a jacket by then] that said Dolfins, Braves and the like. No one called me a Poser. Had 2 more kids, went dragracing for 15 or so years. [great family sport, by the way] Wore Ford and NHRA Caps, shirts and Jackets, No one called me a poser. I finally get my kids all grown and out. Got back to biking and bought a Sportster, still have my Triumph, by the way. I love my Sportster, I’m proud of it and Ride it and spend money on it all the time. I have a HD cap and Jacket. I have several T-shirts from dealerships that I have visited. Am I a Fan, no. Am I a rider, no. I’m a Poser. Apparently cause I’ve done as I always have, I’ve displayed symbols of my passions.
So, I guess I’m a Poser. Not Rich, Not Urban and Not even a Biker. Guess I’m a PCP. Poor Country Poser. :roflblack Odd but OK, cause as I’ve said before: I’ve No one to impress but Me, and I like Me.
Soooo, Be yourself and Ride Happy. Zeke. :tour

I have HD shirts... and wear them frequently. There have been plenty of times where a fellow rider will come up to me and strike up a conversation about Harleys and motorcycles (I assume it's becuase they saw my shirt). I've met a bunch of friendly people this way, and I'm not talking about at rallies. I suppose it would be slightly embarassing if I actually did not own a HD. Hell, I've gone and talked to a few folks because I've seen them wearing HD shirts too. I'm always up for chatting with like minded people. I also have a sticker on my Jeep (the free one HD gives you when you purchase) and I bought a new pair of boots last summer. So... I guess I'm a Poser who also happens to ride. :)

My take 1%ers, Rubs and Posers

First 1%ers, I don't think anyone would ever mistake me for a 1%er. Don't walk the walk Or talk the talk. I ride as much as I can and enjoy every minute of it, but it's not my Life.
Second RUBs, Rich Urban Bikers. Well Thats Pretty much out. First I’m closer to poor than rich. Second, I’m not Urban, I’m Country. Third, We’ll get to that later.
Next POSER. Been thinking alot bout this Poser thing for a while. Seems like, if you have a decal on your truck, wear a jacket or a cap with a HD logo on it, or wear a T-shirt that refers to a dealer or [God Forbid] Harley Davidson, your a Poser.
When I got out of the Navy in ‘71, I got a very used Triumph, in three boxes. I put it together and rode it for years. We only had one car and my then wife worked a distance from home. I rode that bike Everywhere. I even took our two sons to Elementary school on it. [try that today] Shuttled them to school one at a time, then went to work. Didn’t own a leather jacket, HD cap or T-shirt, there was never any extra money to waste like that after rent, food and clothing. I never remember anyone calling me a Poser, or for that matter, anything else.
Worked and advanced, along the way I Got Divorced, bought a house, parked my bike, raised my boys and took over the small shop that I worked at. I Fished and Hunted for hobbies. I wore caps that said NRA, Winchester, Evinrude, Rugar and the like. Never was called A Poser. Followed Football and Baseball, wore caps, shirts and Jackets [could even afford a jacket by then] that said Dolfins, Braves and the like. No one called me a Poser. Had 2 more kids, went dragracing for 15 or so years. [great family sport, by the way] Wore Ford and NHRA Caps, shirts and Jackets, No one called me a poser. I finally get my kids all grown and out. Got back to biking and bought a Sportster, still have my Triumph, by the way. I love my Sportster, I’m proud of it and Ride it and spend money on it all the time. I have a HD cap and Jacket. I have several T-shirts from dealerships that I have visited. Am I a Fan, no. Am I a rider, no. I’m a Poser. Apparently cause I’ve done as I always have, I’ve displayed symbols of my passions.
So, I guess I’m a Poser. Not Rich, Not Urban and Not even a Biker. Guess I’m a PCP. Poor Country Poser. :roflblack Odd but OK, cause as I’ve said before: I’ve No one to impress but Me, and I like Me.
Soooo, Be yourself and Ride Happy. Zeke. :tour


Come to Central Texas for a ride Zeke and I'll buy you a beer or three. Maybe my wife will take a pic of us "posing." :smoke

Ralph
Georgetown, Texas

i see a biker as a person who deep down just loves motorcycles. i mean really loves them. theyre either riding or thinking about riding, or thier next ride, or thier bike, or what they will do to thier bike next, or a bike they really want or use to have, i could go on for ever. riding is in the back of theyre mind all day long and they cant help it. they go to bed thinking about motorcycles and wake thinking about them. some who see that it is raining in the moring and would still rather take the bike to work. its a disease and you cant help it if you got, you got it for good. dosent matter what u ride, HD, jap, street or dirt. dosent matter if you wear the dirtiest leather or pink spandex, makes no different if youd help a brother or hurt a brother drug dealers to judges. its any person with an die hard passion for motorcycles. a love liifesyle that cant be imitated. some of you guys are prolly reading this and know exactly what im talking about. let people call it and label it and try and act it how they want. if yer a true biker you f uckin know it for sure!

I don't particularly care what anyone wears. If folks who don't ride want to wear "biker" stuff, it certainly doesn't have any effect on me. I can't afford Harley clothing and if they can, well more power to them. The only time it bothers me with the motorcycle-less folks who have jumped on the "biker" bandwagon is at some of the motorcycle events I've been too recently.

Went to Carlisle, PA event last year...never been to it before and it was reputed to be pretty huge. It was a great ride up through some pretty country. When we got to Carlisle it was total gridlock for 4-5 blocks to get into the fairgrounds. It took us about 1 1/2-2 hours to go 4-5 blocks. We wanted to turn around and just ride more than once, but we were stuck in the mess pretty much. Anyway, we got in finally and saw that OCC was there so there was a HUGE contingent of folks there who were apparently fans of the show.

We walked around for a while and looked at the bikes and vendors and decided to leave. Leaving was more difficult than getting in almost. The biggest problem was that there were as many cages there as bikes I think. A lot, if not most, of those cages occupied by OCC fans who didn't own a bike. Being fans of a motorcycle show and wanting to see the OCC guys didn't bother me about them either. What really bothered me was how rude they were. They were at a motorcycle event and were just plain rude to motorcyclists!

When we were trying to get out of the parking lot, we sat at the end of the aisle and waited for a break in the line to get out. It was bumper to bumper cars and we soon realized they were not going to let us in line. We sat there for about 1/2 hour-45 minutes. We asked several folks to let us in and they all said no. Finally, our friend tried to ease his bike into line. Well, the dude in the pick up truck pulled up and bumped his truck into our friend's bike, nearly knocking him over! We were stunned!

We backed off, not wanting to cause or get into trouble. Finally, our motioning paid off and a car let us pass straight through the line and we went down to the next line that was filled with mostly motorcycles, who immediately let us get in line with them and we shared the creep and crawl out of the fairgrounds.

That, to me, is the difference between the so called "posers" and true bikers. It has nothing to do with what they wear and everything to do with brotherhood.

That to me is unconscionable..:frownthre

I’m not a religious man. I’m not anti-religion; I’m just not a believer. To each his/her own. But when I get all dolled up (shirt, tie, jacket [church gear]) to attend a wedding or funeral, I feel like I’m the biggest poser/hypocrite walking the earth.

When I’m skootin’ partying, bar-hoppin’ or just hanging with my brothers and sisters, I feel as natural as a new born baby. I know when I’m posing, but I can’t speak for or judge others.

JJ

I dont own leather anything.I guess Im not a real biker.:(

Yo B,
Check your PM for an address for my photobucket. There are some larger shots of the 1/4 fairing.
Peace.

[QUOTE=af_sting]I'm not a "Harley-guy", nor will I ever insult the breed by pretending to be one. You see, I met what I consider to be a real "Harley-guy" once (granted this is just my image of a Harley-guy and not meant to bust anyone’s bubble, so don't take offense). It was the Summer of ‘87 and I was working the tree line (clearing power lines) in the Adirondacks near Lake George. One day we were taking a break along a highway and we noticed a biker go by. His bike was smoking and obviously not running well and he stopped a short way away. He was dressed like a biker and could have easily replaced Billy on that one movie (Yeah I'm talking about Easy Rider). We went back to work but eventually he came over to our foreman and signed on…. just like that. He worked for about a month and a half with us and had no problem handling a chainsaw or keeping up with even the toughest of us. He spend most of his time tinkering on his bike near the hotel but he also hung out down at the bar we frequented. When we did go out and man could that dude drink.

He was a blast to hang out with and although at first I didn't believe any of his stories, after I got to know him, I found he was the real deal and he made a real impression on me (I was 18 at the time). Humble in a self-deprecating way, but also ready to mix it up when he felt slighted unjustly, he was one of the most colorful people I'd ever met. He also had that ruffian nobility to him. He was not into any of the sick shit some bikers are into and although he'd pipe a joint, I'm pretty sure he'd have kicked my butt if I'd tried to do the same.

He left pretty much the way he came. One day we woke up and his bike was gone. He didn't even get his last paycheck (by the roll of money he had in his bedroll, I don't think he was hurting for money anyways). No note or anything. He was a hardcore rider and drifter and he's what I always think of when I think of a "Harley-guy".

-Sting[/QUOTE that was a good story i enjoted it!

I hope I don't piss alot of people off but if I do, oh well. One of the things in the biker creed is to mind our own business,I don't care what you wear,if you want to have every thing on you with a h.d. logo so be it. I'm concerned that if there's trouble you'll be there. It is our duty to show the new bike rider the ropes, and coping an attitude because he or she is proud of their bikes is not the way to do it. as far as the clothes goes I just bought a new pair of boots, probably the 10th pair in the 40 years i've been riding but then again who gives a rats ass. Lets not be judging people by the things they have or wear, but by who they are inside this whole posser thing is really not worth worrying about. just ride and enjoy life because it is short.

What is a true poser............Thats a hard question to answer. I dont wear the so called biker outfit cuz I dont want to look like a poser, yet I own and ride a Harley. All I wear is a leather jacket { not a HD jacket } t-shirt { Not a HD t-shirt } blue jeans and cowboy boots { well worn } I do wear a HD ball cap and my helmet is just a skull cap { not DOT approved } and my shades are cheap Wallmart speicals. I guess I look foolish but hay this is who I am. Am I a poser????? You tell me, I dont really know ???

I was going to post until I read this! Are you a poser? Definitely! You are posing to be me! (except I have TWO pairs of cowboy boots - both pair not being newer than 15 years old!) :bump

Funny though. I have a pair of boots I wear ALL THE TIME, have 'em on now and it STILL has paint on it when I was painting the baby's room for his arrival home from the hospital. He's now 13. Some strong-assed paint!!!

I may be a poser and I may be a RUB. But I am married to a Bad, MFer biker. He's been ridin' bikes his whole life, he has a bad temper, and it gets worse when he drinks. He is one dirty fighter, too. Problem is he looks like a poser, because I do the shopping and buy him all sorts of Harley stuff, the fancy $78 dollar shirts and the nice leather jackets, too. And he wears em, cuz he knows I like em ;) So just be careful who your judgin and sneerin' at fellas. It just maybe a someone like my darlin'. I really feel sorry for the first dude that questions HIS authenticity of biker dude extrodanaire....just clear out cuz shit will go down:D

What do you expect! HD encourages this kind of thing. The Harley shops around here have more floor space for clothing than they do for bikes, parts, accessories...

wearing leather ain't bad.......fact I know couple girls in Amsterdam who could teach you a whole new meaning of leather...........:shhhh

is it still attached to the cow?.....thats kind of sick yet hot.:shhhh

Originally Posted by Darhawk View Post
wearing leather ain't bad.......fact I know couple girls in Amsterdam who could teach you a whole new meaning of leather...........

POST IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS!!!:frownthre :frownthre :frownthre :frownthre :frownthre :frownthre

What do you expect! HD encourages this kind of thing. The Harley shops around here have more floor space for clothing than they do for bikes, parts, accessories...


LoL!

I was in my locaL H.D. Stealer the other day buying bearings for my front wheel. I've been in there many times (for very short visits I might add) but I never really noticed how HUGE the koi pond in the far corner is. It's about 14' square! The sales manager was standing next to me, I looked at him and said,"nice koi pond....if this was a pet store". He laughed and said,"yep I could get another 6-8 bikes in this spot if this wasn't here". I should mention it's one of the smallest H.D. showrooms I've ever seen with the space divided: 1/2 apparel, 1/4 chrome do-dads and 1/4 bikesbikes.:rolleyes:

LoL!

I was in my locaL H.D. Stealer the other day buying bearings for my front wheel. I've been in there many times (for very short visits I might add) but I never really noticed how HUGE the koi pond in the far corner is. It's about 14' square! The sales manager was standing next to me, I looked at him and said,"nice koi pond....if this was a pet store". He laughed and said,"yep I could get another 6-8 bikes in this spot if this wasn't here". I should mention it's one of the smallest H.D. showrooms I've ever seen with the space divided: 1/2 apparel, 1/4 chrome do-dads and 1/4 bikesbikes.:rolleyes:

which one is this? The one off the 91?

Ok, So I own and wear over 20 HD t-shirts.
I have several long sleeve ones too, a couple of sweat shirts, some gloves, a denim jacket with the HUGE HD on the back (only one available in my size in october)

I grew up with "BIKERS" from the 70's.. Not a poser amoung them, yet they all have lots of HD stuff.. I was 5 years old, on the back of my ole man's 74 XLCH wearing a sleevless (made it at home) HD shirt.. gee remember when...
Back in the day, it was a sign of pilgramage to have several different HD Shirts from all over the place.. if you're in a strange town and a HD dealer is nearbye, it's a rite of passage to find said dealer and purchase a shirt...

Of course back then there were a couple of shirts pinned up behind the parts counter, not a dozen racks of shirts.. and NO they didn't have a boutique back then either.

it took me nearly 20 years to learn the "REAL" names of my dad's friends, Hell, I was fine ,with Cranky, Rock and his wife Rocky, Stick, Guppy,Bones, Big John, Lil john, TJ, Hammer, Stone, and many more I've long forgotten.

It was great when the Motor company started making dress clothes, finally got my dad out of jeans and t-shirts....

So now I am a poser.. Not a real biker, because you can't see any of my tats unless I want you to, I no longer have a full beard (psoriasis sucks) and I am usually neat in appearance..If given the opportunity, I'll always purchase a shirt when I goto the dealership, I Like em.. SO WHAT.. I've also gotten my sons a couple too... Yeah, they're posers too...

And if you find me on the road, You'll find I'm wearing (usually) some type of HD shirt, HD gloves, maybe my leather or the Denim, Jeans, and steel tipped boots that would never be confused with new, although occassionally I like to polish them up to "inspection standards" just for shits and giggles... I'll be glad to climb under your car or your bike to help you back on the road, and I'll be pissed when my new shirt gets ruined, so I guess I'll have to go get another one.. See you later, I'm off to the Boutique.

back on the topic, trying to not get distracted by amsterdamian chicks molesting a bovine.

what is a biker....someone who rides every chance they can. lives to ride, taylors life around riding

What is a rider...someone who rides because they enjoy it, but doesnt neccesarily live to ride. and they do it alot whenever they can reasonably

what is a poser...someone who tries to look like they ride every chance they can but dont. lives to look cool

what is a RUB....a person who rides sometimes, but thinks you are not as much of a biker because you dont dress like a poser or have all the poser accesories. Also looks like a poser but thinks he is not, because he actually rides now and then and usually has a very expensive bike to try and fit the image.

poser and RUBS are very closly related, but still different.

Rider and bikers are closely related, but different

these description leave a very wide way to assign people into these categories.

for example a rider can appear as a poser but really be a biker. just not have an oppurtunity to ride

a RUB can look like a biker, but still be a RUB, just not look like a poser

A poser can look like a RUB but still be a poser

A Rider can look like a RUB or poser or biker

A biker can look like a poser, rider or a RUB

Then there is the hybrids...too hard to explain

i look like a poser sometimes, and a RUB other times. and very infrequently like a biker. but i consider myself a Rider
but personality and character wise, well i would make some "bikers" cry.
dont really give a damn what people think or if i am a real biker or not.

P.S. i dont ever where a rain suit, because i am hard like that!! :) (actually dont have the storage space)

which one is this? The one off the 91?

No, Pomona HD off of Central just above the 10.

which one is this? The one off the 91?

I actually found a pic of it!

Ok so it's actually 12 x 12' I was close.

http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/medium/img030.jpg

I recently took my new bike to work for the first time. Well, it is 51 miles up to NYC from my doorstep. I leave at 6:30 am. It being April, it to me is cold, by the way, if you have a wife or GF, she might be like me, ALWAYS COLD! So, needless to say, I have on leather jacket, chaps, gloves. I AM the ultimate poser. That being said, I work in an office so I have on dress pants and can't wear jeans. So, thus the chaps and I was glad I had them. NJ turnpike at 75 mph, I was cold! Well, 8 1/2 hrs later, it is warmer, but I have no bags on my bike so i have to wear it all home too. Drive home, I get into the Lincoln tunnel and there is a guy ridin' his HD next to me, he's in TShirt and jeans. He turns and looks at me all dressed up to the nines in leather and I could see his chuckle and sneer! :rolleyes: I think to myself is he sneering cuz I am woman or I look nerdy in my leather, which I am sure I did. Well when I got out of the tunnel and started at the usual 75 to 80 MPH of the NJT, I again was very glad to have on my leather.

Well, look, you take your life in your hands in a car in NYC, nevermind on a bike. If I get hit and go down, my road rash isn't gonna look pretty and I can't afford down time from my job. So I feel I am taking every precaution I can to protect myself under the conditions (cagers that are trying to get as close to my rear tire as they can so other cars can't squeeze in, Taxi drivers that are mad, workin' on a visa and can disappear back to Pakistan on the next flight if they hit me, and buses leaving the Port Authority bus terminal that could give a f:censor k that I am on a 500 lb cycle with no protection and they are up my arse with a bus that weighs well over 5 tons. Hey I know what I was thinking on that ride, I am glad I have some leather on. So please don't judge us always cold, scaredy cats. You never know how long someone's ride is or what conditions they have to ride in.

WTF?????? A coi pond in a dealership? Just when you thini you have heard it all.......

WTF?????? A coi pond in a dealership? Just when you thini you have heard it all.......


LOL, that's why I posted a pic. I didn't think anyone would believe me :rolleyes:

I recently took my new bike to work for the first time. Well, it is 51 miles up to NYC from my doorstep.

Let me tell ya' You should get a plaque for doing that ride......especially on a work day. Just getting into that tunnel at the end of the day to get out of the city is mayhem.....I don't know if I would do it on a bike. Hats off to you.:tour

Let me tell ya' You should get a plaque for doing that ride......especially on a work day. Just getting into that tunnel at the end of the day to get out of the city is mayhem.....I don't know if I would do it on a bike. Hats off to you.:tour

Just need my head examined. Oh that's right I'm already certifiable!

I have wondered about this for a long time,,,,,,,
I have met what you would call Bikers
When I was a kid I knew a man named Harry Underwood, I was friends with his kids, He did not own a bike when I knew him but there was no doubt,,,he didnt have the shirts but he did have the attitude, and all us kids knew he was not a man to mess with but we also knew he was there for us.
Years later I worked with a guy who had everything Harley you could have, He did not have much money and rode a wore out Sportster everyday...growing up in Florida this is possible. It was the early 80's and he would dog on me for my rice burner and I would dig at his AMF unreliable oil leaker..Hell he even named his kid Harley...was he a biker?.....I bet he still rides that Sportster
Now its 25 years later, I have a couple of Harley shirts, just a plain leather jacket, a head wrap, Thats about it for biker gear,,,,I have thought about chaps but its only because I'm getting older and I not a tough as I once was.
There is still a 25 year old Rice Rocket in my garage, right next to my Harley
I ride the Harley more, I still like them both
Am I a biker?? some would say no
But I did learn something from thing growing up
I really dont give a rats ass what other people think.

wearing leather ain't bad.......fact I know couple girls in Amsterdam who could teach you a whole new meaning of leather...........:shhhh
I know 6 0r 7 here in Vegas. Uh I mean, I know of 6 or 7 here in Vegas....

Well, look, you take your life in your hands in a car in NYC, nevermind on a bike. If I get hit and go down, my road rash isn't gonna look pretty and I can't afford down time from my job. So I feel I am taking every precaution I can to protect myself under the conditions (cagers that are trying to get as close to my rear tire as they can so other cars can't squeeze in, Taxi drivers that are mad, workin' on a visa and can disappear back to Pakistan on the next flight if they hit me, and buses leaving the Port Authority bus terminal that could give a f:censor k that I am on a 500 lb cycle with no protection and they are up my arse with a bus that weighs well over 5 tons. Hey I know what I was thinking on that ride, I am glad I have some leather on. So please don't judge us always cold, scaredy cats. You never know how long someone's ride is or what conditions they have to ride in.

Totally agree. Wear whatever you deem appropriate. Actually leather is the best thing you can have on if you are ever unfortunate enough to take a spill. As for the young soccer moms in leather? Works for me:) I much prefer looking at that than some overweight middle aged goober on his brand new Road King,in a tank top cut offs , barefoot, and no helmet tooling down the freeway. THAT is is NO WAY impressive.

I went for a ride today and stopped at a bike show. while there the guy from the local h-d dealer told me they had 40% off on helmets at the shop. So off I go to land me a bargin. I hate wearing a helmet but some of my adventures dictate . while at the dealer four alleged biker babes come in wearing leather from head to toe . leather doo rags jackets chaps boots and even hd sunglasses riding on top of there heads . they bought god only knows how much clothing and were talking the talk motherfck this and motherfck that . I walked out side and was smoking a cigarette and talking to the salesman when they come outside and yep you guessed it they all loaded up in a dodge mini-van. what happened to soccer moms ? :yikes

I pulled into a nearby dealer one summer day a couple years ago, and pulled the Sporty in beside a couple just unloading off their still running, brand spankin new, EGlide. Older couple, dressed head to toew in shiny black leather.

I park, and get off the bike. And as I'm pulling off my helmet and gloves, say something to the guy like "Nice bike", something along those lines. lol, the dude glances at my Sporty and says: "Yeah, thanks. Whatever. Nice Sportster" (with a big ol sneer on his face.)

Then his wife pipes in, "Thanks! This is our first bike! We just love being bikers!" As his bike was still idling, I peeked at his odometer-it said, get this: 197 miles.......

I just gave them my biggest smile and went inside.

I met some serious RUB's last time I visited my dealer...

They spent the time in the coffee shop talking about the new Camper vans they had bought and their trip to France in them. Each one cost over £50,000!

They had well paid jobs, both them and their wives had all the gear and they were treated well by the dealer. (As Just Harleys in Newcastle do to everyone as far as I have seen)

Many of them had at least 2 bikes and were obviously not short of cash, however the 5 guys I spoke to had all racked up more than 10,000 miles a year. So it may be easy to call them RUB's, but in reality they aint that at all.

Of course in this day and age many get into biking late in life and they have the cash to spend. Are they real bikers? Have they been riding and passionate since they were in their early teens? Maybe not, but who I am I to decide that they are not deserving of the term biker?

Many of them are lucky/fortunate enough to do more ,miles than I can.

It's easy to label, but I think if you look hard enough many of those RUBs are just guys who found out late in life just how great motorcycling is. Of course there are RUB's and Poser's, but they make up a small percentage of the fraternity of bikers in reality, and who are we to deny anyone the pleasure of motorcycling at any age?

I'm all fkd up......I wear leather when it's cool enough, but I'm also the dick you see riding in cutoffs and a t-shirt.

LoL!

I was in my locaL H.D. Stealer the other day buying bearings for my front wheel. I've been in there many times (for very short visits I might add) but I never really noticed how HUGE the koi pond in the far corner is. It's about 14' square! The sales manager was standing next to me, I looked at him and said,"nice koi pond....if this was a pet store". He laughed and said,"yep I could get another 6-8 bikes in this spot if this wasn't here". I should mention it's one of the smallest H.D. showrooms I've ever seen with the space divided: 1/2 apparel, 1/4 chrome do-dads and 1/4 bikesbikes.:rolleyes:

Sorry, I have to do this. I don't mean to disrespect you, I don't even know you. But your post is a good set up to make a point.

When you went to your local H.D. dealer to get your parts did you borrow a bike to ride there? (I saw you only had one listed in your profile:)) Did you have anything on that could have made someone think you owned a bike? My point is this. Based on the o.p. you went into a Dealership, bought H.D. stuff, but probably arrived and left in a "cage" of some sort. So had the original poster been there you probably would have been deemed a poser in his eyes.

Why are there so many posters here that think because they ride a Harley they can judge everyone else? What is the cut off on owning HD t-shirts before you become a poser. Don't even think about replacing some of your 30 year old leather, new stuff screams poser apparently. Don't upgrade to any of the new tech riding wear, polar fleece, thinsulate, electric gloves, etc. Just wear your old stuff that is out dated, offers little to no comfort or protection.

There are a lot of ladies that do not own or ride their own bike. But they may have ridden on the back of one longer than some of you have been alive. Should they not be allowed to purchase and wear the proper gear to keep them safe? Maybe their new boyfriend, husband has been riding for years and wants them to be safe. What gives us the right to judge ? :frownthre

I don't own an HD shirt. Before I had an HD, I wouldn't wear one because I felt it would be poserish. Now I have an HD, and have no inkling to get one. I did get a couple LowBrow Sportster shirts for Christmas. One says "Powered by Ironhead" on the front, so I'm hesitant to wear it since I don't have an Ironhead, but it's the only one that says "You just got passed by a sportster" on the back. Maybe I'll just get an Ironhead so I can wear the shirt without being accused of being a poser.

Sorry, I have to do this. I don't mean to disrespect you, I don't even know you. But your post is a good set up to make a point.

When you went to your local H.D. dealer to get your parts did you borrow a bike to ride there? (I saw you only had one listed in your profile:)) Did you have anything on that could have made someone think you owned a bike? My point is this. Based on the o.p. you went into a Dealership, bought H.D. stuff, but probably arrived and left in a "cage" of some sort. So had the original poster been there you probably would have been deemed a poser in his eyes.

Why are there so many posters here that think because they ride a Harley they can judge everyone else? What is the cut off on owning HD t-shirts before you become a poser. Don't even think about replacing some of your 30 year old leather, new stuff screams poser apparently. Don't upgrade to any of the new tech riding wear, polar fleece, thinsulate, electric gloves, etc. Just wear your old stuff that is out dated, offers little to no comfort or protection.

There are a lot of ladies that do not own or ride their own bike. But they may have ridden on the back of one longer than some of you have been alive. Should they not be allowed to purchase and wear the proper gear to keep them safe? Maybe their new boyfriend, husband has been riding for years and wants them to be safe. What gives us the right to judge ? :frownthre

sorry but im a little more observant than that. and if you are assuming what I would think then how are you any better than anybody else. preach to your own choir.

sorry but im a little more observant than that. and if you are assuming what I would think then how are you any better than anybody else. preach to your own choir.

I'm not really assuming to know know what you were thinking. You explained what you were thinking in your post. But, how much did you know about these ladies before you passed judgement on them? That was the point I was making. I don't think I'm better than anyone else. But, I may be more open minded than some. For example: I don't think just because someone shows up at a dealership in a car or truck doesn't mean that they have no right to be there. It doesn't matter what they are wearing or what they are buying. It makes absolutely no difference to me.

As far as preaching? Not sure where that came from. I thought we were all part of the same choir and had the right to express an opinion. Lighten up Dude and enjoy the ride. It ain' all bad. :D

maybe they were on vacation and drinking in a hotel room somewhere...hadda go to the dealer for something...so they left the bikes at the hotel and all piled in a mini van, rented EXPRESSLY for that purpose (so as not to ride 'runk), and the one designated driver drove it over. The rest were buzzed, but you couldn't tell.
Maybe?
:P

who cares if they got in a minivan. soccer moms are hot! they were hot right?

I like to refer back to the acronym "DILLIGAF!" I don't care what anyone else thinks I look like--poser, RUB, biker, rider, whatever. I don't care how many miles people think I ride--that isn't really any of their f**king business either. And I don't care what other people on bikes look or dress like or how many miles they ride. I just like to get together with people and ride, or I can ride all by myself all day long. None of this crap makes any difference. If you feel like a biker great, if you don't great. Who cares what someone else thinks!?!

Its all about the ride man. If they dont ride, they may one day. It may be their dream, so keep on dreaming. Or they could have a million miles under their new leather that replaced the worn out gear. No problem-it starts in the heart.
However, the pre-stressed, pre-rashed gear gets me a little. I dont think anyone dreams? about that wonderful day when they kiss the asphalt...do they?

They were hot right?

I am sorry but whats the big deal about owning as much HD shit as you can ? And having all kinds of dumbass pins and bells and shit hanging off your vest and bike ? I have been riding HDs (also own a WCC CFL) for about 5 years now and to this day I still dont own all kinds of HD crap! Im sorry, but to me I just dont see the point of owning all this shit that says HD on it....I think I own 1 HD t shirt and the only reason I got it was because the dealer gave it to me when I bought my new Nightster.:rolleyes: I also own a set of HD boots and they are 4 years old and have only been warn MAYBE 5 times???

Yes I own a leather jacket but its not a HD, dont own any chaps or anything else that says HD on it.....sorry if this offends anyone but Im not Mr. Pro HD and i really dont give a shit:banadanc