Drill Your Own Hollow Points..?

[flameryder]

Has anyone taken a jacketed soft point, put it in a vise and drilled it out to be to a hollow point? A friend of mine used to do this when he had the extra ammo around, needed hollow points, and didn't want to spend any more money.

[kilroykarr]

That's interesting. You would think putting the round in a vice would easily bend it making it useless. You could make a jig i guess that has 2 half moons and would hold them tight when clamped together.:)

Curious if anyone has done this and what if your not completely centered on the bullet, will that make it not fly straight?

Never herd of this very interesting.

[mjbogrand]

Has anyone taken a jacketed soft point, put it in a vise and drilled it out to be to a hollow point? A friend of mine used to do this when he had the extra ammo around, needed hollow points, and didn't want to spend any more money.

That's some funny sh!t there.:laugh

That's interesting. You would think putting the round in a vice would easily bend it making it useless. You could make a jig i guess that has 2 half moons and would hold them tight when clamped together.

Curious if anyone has done this and what if your not completely centered on the bullet, will that make it not fly straight?

Never herd of this very interesting.

First let me say,this has got to be one of the STUPIDEST things you could attempt and I wouldn't suggest trying this.

I guess if you had a jig it could be done without deforming the brass,:D:frownthre:doh
I guess if you squeezed it enough you wouldn't need the hollow points any more.:clap:frownthre

I have heard of this with .22 rounds.Just X them with a knife.Split open better,or something like that.

And if you were using them for REAL CLOSE range,they don't have to fly that straight?:frownthre(I'm gunna wear this guy out:frownthre)

If you intended to use them for longer than,say 10 feet,they would not fly very straight at all.
Bullets are made to some pretty close tolerances,dimensions,balance and weight.I would think this would F:censorK that right up.

[floorit]

Never a bullet, but a freind of mine clamped a 209 shotshell primer in a vise then hit it with a hammer an punch.

[XLFREAK]

Never a bullet, but a freind of mine clamped a 209 shotshell primer in a vise then hit it with a hammer an punch.

Hi-C, or Kool-aid? :laugh


seriously, thats gotta hurt.

is that where the expression your mother used to say came from "that'll make you go blind"

[XLFREAK]

speaking of Hollow-points, some shooting buds used to put water in their hollow points and then cover them over with wax. they did more damage to the 2 by 4s than the standard non filled hollow points

[kilroykarr]

First let me say,this has got to be one of the STUPIDEST things you could attempt and I wouldn't suggest trying this.

I guess if you had a jig it could be done without deforming the brass,:D:frownthre:doh

I'm not saying that i would ever attempt this. When i hear something that i have never herd before my mind just starts thinking of ways to do it. that make sence?:rolleyes:

[XLFREAK]

when you go to drill them out, if the bullet isnt crimped hard enough, you could lower the seating depth of the bullet, and cause dangerous pressures.

[Uneasy Rider]

In WWII they would use jewelers saw blades and cut crosses in the tops of 45 ACP rounds, about 1/2 way through.

They splatter real good when the hit something hard.

They called them Dum-dums

Ive used them in a Thompson and 1911s

[flathead45]

Never a bullet, but a freind of mine clamped a 209 shotshell primer in a vise then hit it with a hammer an punch.
I had a 50.cal from my army days that I wanted to make harmless, so I dumped the powder and drilled a crosshole to put a split ring through to hang my keys on.

I clamped it in a vise and did the hammer and nail routine to the primmer. wow what a noise, then a trickle of blood on my gut, next to my navel. well it don't brush off so I try and grab it with a needlenose plyers. damn thing was 1/2 inch long chunk of brass from the primmer casing. thank god for a bit of beerbelly or I'd be in some pain.

I don't recommend playing with bullets, but I did it myself as a young 'un so I won't say nothing:o

[flameryder]

All I know is that the drill size and depth was the same as the factory hollow point that he had left over from another box of ammo. After he was finished, the drilled cartridges were placed side by side with the factory one and everything measured and aligned perfectly. All of the drilled holes were not "PERFECTLY" round or centered, but enough so that there was very little difference to the naked eye. How well they performed I don't know, if I ever see him again I'll be sure to ask.

[mjbogrand]

Never know he might be a news story one day!

Since it's lead,I would rather put the drill in the vice and turn the cartridge on it.

Kenai Pen,I think this is an old trick.Now you can buy the thing like that.With polymer instead of wax.Can't remember what they fill them with though

[Rascal]

I have nor ever will modify any type of ammo, I buy the type and what I need always.

[Jesse]

Has anyone taken a jacketed soft point, put it in a vise and drilled it out to be to a hollow point? A friend of mine used to do this when he had the extra ammo around, needed hollow points, and didn't want to spend any more money.

Years ago, you could buy a hollow-pointer kit for non-jacketed round nose lead bullets. Back in the 70's I was in Law Enforcement and bought a Charter Arms Bull Dog (5) shot revolver chambered for .44 Special and carried it Off-Duty. The only factory loaded ammo available was Remington 246 grain lead round nose bullets. The Charter Arms .44 only weighed about 20 ounces, so there was severe recoil, so much that the factory crimped bullets would work loose and stick out past the cylinder and catch on the forcing cone of the barrel and tie the cylinder up, so you could not fire the gun. I used a hollow pointer on the factory loaded 246 grain bullets and removed about 25 grains of lead with the hollow pointer and used reloading dies to re-crimp the bullets. The bullets sure looked mean when looking at the business end of the cylinder.

[Sportster1200]

If your friend ever ends up shooting someone with those rounds (in self-defense) when it goes to court he will be in deep shite. I can see it now..."Your Honor it appears that the defendant purposely, with forethought created these killer rounds to inflict lethal damage to my client who was only trying to support his family and raise money to pay for the treatment of his medical condition."

KongBastard

[milmat1]

Never a bullet, but a freind of mine clamped a 209 shotshell primer in a vise then hit it with a hammer an punch.

Uhh !! How did that go......................:wonderlan

If your friend ever ends up shooting someone with those rounds (in self-defense) when it goes to court he will be in deep shite. I can see it now..."Your Honor it appears that the defendant purposely, with forethought created these killer rounds to inflict lethal damage to my client who was only trying to support his family and raise money to pay for the treatment of his medical condition."

KongBastard


Yea !:laugh:laugh And the Jury would likely side with the Victim !:doh

Our System is totally Whacked out...........:frownthre

[toe]

If your friend ever ends up shooting someone with those rounds (in self-defense) when it goes to court he will be in deep shite. I can see it now..."Your Honor it appears that the defendant purposely, with forethought created these killer rounds to inflict lethal damage to my client who was only trying to support his family and raise money to pay for the treatment of his medical condition."

KongBastard


No, the defendant purposely made the rounds unique so they can be traced since there isn't a serial number on them.... :smoke

[floorit]

The disk that dents in on the primer (forget the trchnical name) flew out, hit him in the knuckle and cut the hell out of him. Oh and he said it was really loud.

[brimic]

It won't hurt anything to drill out the nose of a bullet. So long as you drill it fairly straight and not too deep, it shouldn't hurt accuracy too much. Just becareful of the lead dust- its very easy to spread/injest/inhale. I handle lead a lot with my bullet casting, but I won't cut lead chunks with a saw because of the dust it can create.

Don't modify, cut, or drill FMJ bullets though. Their jackets are open at the base of the bullet and its possible to get the jacket stuck in the barrel if the lead core squirts out when fired.

For .22s there are commecially available jigs for making hollow points http://www.leverguns.com/store/acurizer.htm

[jharback]

speaking of Hollow-points, some shooting buds used to put water in their hollow points and then cover them over with wax. they did more damage to the 2 by 4s than the standard non filled hollow points

Years ago when I was in the Marines I had a friend that was experimenting with this using mercury instead of water. I don't know if he got anywhere with it but, it was interesting.

[quintonw]

It wont do much as the jacket is a lot thicker on a FMJ and it wont peel back and expand like one designed for that.

[mwheat308]

A long time ago in a land far far away, I had heard that some guys were blunting the nose of the M-16 rounds. About 1/16", any more resulted in failure to feed, not a good thing to have happen. I understand they worked better for one shot stops.
As it is against the rules of war ( Geneva Convention ) I wouldn't know from personel experience.
Good Luck with your project.

[brimic]

As it is against the rules of war ( Geneva Convention ) I wouldn't know from personel experience.
Good Luck with your project.

Not Geneva convention, Hague Conference- which the US had no part of, though we mostly abide by it.

Silly rules. A tampered bullet is no good to use because it might cause excess damage yet an artillery shell will turn a man into jelly. The Germans even cried foul in WWI because the US soldiers used shotguns!