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rottenralph
13th December 2006, 09:22
Have a look. Other than the odd seat position, this has the potential to be really cool. http://www.redneckengineering.com/100_0590.JPG

Uncledaddy
13th December 2006, 09:31
Interesting.

I don't really go for that swoopy, pointy crap but the engineering involved in that frame gets my head working.

I really wonder what kind of stresses are put on that front cylinder? I've actually been thinking about what would happen if I removed the two front mounts on my '05. If they can mount an engine like the one above, I can't think of a reason why my engine couldn't live without those mounts. It may vibrate more but then again, it's a harley... who cares?

xllent01
13th December 2006, 11:29
Kewl, looks like the motor is a major stress member for the frame.

Although not very practical on the old back:laugh :clap

lagerdrinker
13th December 2006, 12:49
did chrishajer have anything to do with that?

im not to sure abour using the engine as a part of the frame. i see only two mounting points. looks like something would break easily. one small tweak of the frame could crack the head

snowman
13th December 2006, 13:32
I saw this last week and started thinking to myself. Course, went into the garage and realized I haven't finished the other one yet!

Gotta find out if they did some serious stress testing....:geek:geek:geek

This has some really cool potential......:banana

Paulie420
13th December 2006, 17:14
Isnt this one 10k just for the rolling chassis tho???

i think so...

Moved On
13th December 2006, 17:59
I don't like the swoopy, but I like where the seat is.

Seams like a lot of load on the front head bolts having the lower front motor
mounts tossed in the trash. And there's only really one weld point keeping the
whole frame together where the back bone meets the swingarm. Too scary
for a fat guy like me, but I wouldn't ride too far on that one gallon tank anyway.

Gazza

xllent01
13th December 2006, 18:43
That bike is all show and no go, :shhhh :burnout

Wonder how they can get the belt drive run thru without hitting the curved swingarm? must use a custom serpentine belt right :doh

Battery, does it go in your lap while riding? Must still be in the "Redneck Engineering" stage :laugh

Looks like it's pretty much in the trailer queen stage right now.:roflblack Although they do have some killer bikes btw.

Big_Baazzoo
13th December 2006, 19:47
cool to look at, but I wouldn't want one.

melcheld
13th December 2006, 19:59
did chrishajer have anything to do with that?

im not to sure abour using the engine as a part of the frame. i see only two mounting points. looks like something would break easily. one small tweak of the frame could crack the head

Isn't the engine a stress member on all the old tube-frame buells? I also seem to remember the rear shock being mounted to the engine. Am I wrong?

It looks cool though. I'd imagine they'd do some fairly extensive testing before selling to the public.

Cheers,

Luke

Peter_nikols
13th December 2006, 22:53
Hello,

I had contacted Frede at Redneck Engineering about this frame a few months ago. I was really curious about it and since I am building a Buell chopper I wanted to get some info on it.

For one thing it's really expensive. Something like $5500 with the tank.
At the time it was little more than a prototype. I beleive that's what this picture is too. It doesn't have a battery box or foot pegs and with the pipes that are on (in the pic) you can't put rearset or mid mount pegs. I passed. I had a custom frame built instead.

But I really like the look of this new Redneck frame and once it's been actually built for road use it will be interesting. For now it may in fact be
just for show.

Luke - your right about the old Buell tubers. The rear shock is mounted from the swing arm to a bracket bolted directly to the engine (front right lower mount hole). But they were in fact rubber mounted which is in contrast to a true "Stress Member" design like the pre-2004 Sportsters.

I can say for sure the old Buells vibrate like crazy in idle. In fact the bike dances when idling on the stand, but it's smooth once you rev it past 3000. The Sportster (mine is an '03) is the exact opposite.

Happy Hollidays everyone...

pquirk
13th December 2006, 23:02
Not even close to cool in my book. Impractical, expensive AND fugly, the tripple whammy. :)

obinella
14th December 2006, 07:07
---sux----

TREADMARKS
3rd January 2007, 13:55
I would hit it!:banana

cadiero
3rd January 2007, 16:03
I really like it! The lack of battery does suck though. But, the motor is mounted in there just like the tube frame Buell's so I don't see a problem with that. In fact I like it. That has to be a very light frame for having an actual swing arm.

If you used a stock Buell head pipe and made your own muffler you would have room for mid mount pegs mounted off the original footpeg mounts on the motor.

For the size and weight that is probly one incredible bike. There are changes I would like, but the concept and idea is really cool. I love things like this.

KSDAPIMP
13th January 2007, 04:31
what is that a one gallon tank. very kool but not very practical... it would be a novelty bike. hey check out my bike... .. thats a kool buell, wanna go for a ride? ....... yeah let me go fire up my other bike...my sportie

roadster
18th January 2007, 09:10
The chassis is engineered very poorly. It's a joke.

SilentSoldier
30th January 2007, 04:09
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Id ride one. But I dont like the wheels

xl1200r
14th February 2007, 00:30
I don't see the issues everyone is seeing with the "poor" engineering.

That engine is mounted no differently than a tube-framed or XB Buell, and it's identical to a Wakan - all bike that will see a hell of a lot more chassis stress than that bike.

http://www.engmore.com/designfiles/cadre.jpg http://www.engmore.com/designfiles/partial.jpg

snowman
14th February 2007, 00:33
I don't see the issues everyone is seeing with the "poor" engineering.

That engine is mounted no differently than a tube-framed or XB Buell, and it's identical to a Wakan - all bike that will see a hell of a lot more chassis stress than that bike.

http://www.engmore.com/designfiles/cadre.jpg http://www.engmore.com/designfiles/partial.jpg

Was wondering the same myself....

Still looking at it for the next project....:geek:geek:geek

melcheld
14th February 2007, 00:48
I don't see the issues everyone is seeing with the "poor" engineering.

That engine is mounted no differently than a tube-framed or XB Buell, and it's identical to a Wakan - all bike that will see a hell of a lot more chassis stress than that bike.

http://www.engmore.com/designfiles/cadre.jpg http://www.engmore.com/designfiles/partial.jpg


Thank You! That's what I said.

xllent01
14th February 2007, 00:50
Bike looks alot better now that it's finished.:clap although a great bar hopper, just not very practical for the long haul. :frownthre :laugh



http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/xllent01/redneck.jpg

xl1200r
14th February 2007, 01:22
I think it would be sharp as hell if the tightened up the wheelbase.

Rascal
14th February 2007, 02:10
Have a look. Other than the odd seat position, this has the potential to be really cool. http://www.redneckengineering.com/100_0590.JPG
Pretty cool, possible one of a kind. Thanks for sharing the pic.

snowman
14th February 2007, 02:40
I think it would be sharp as hell if the tightened up the wheelbase.

Doesn't look like you can..... Might help the balance with a little wider wheel/tire combo front and rear???:geek:geek:geek

xl1200r
14th February 2007, 23:01
Doesn't look like you can..... Might help the balance with a little wider wheel/tire combo front and rear???:geek:geek:geek

Sure tey could. The nose doesn't need so much of a gooseneck to it, and they could bring the rake to something more in line with the kind of bike that enngine came out of.

The rear would a swingarm redesign to do, but I see a good couple inches in there they could lose.

68B_Body
3rd March 2007, 21:40
i like it alot. looks like i need to scrounge up all the loose change in my truck and in the couch.

earl87gta
5th June 2007, 09:52
I like it but I think I would get a set of XB wheels for it.

basing110
22nd June 2007, 06:24
what kind of front rotor is that cause i want them for my sporty in a bad way

KaotikEvo
11th January 2008, 22:05
doesn't trak-tek sell those rotors?

stealthammer
12th January 2008, 00:42
Not for me thank you, but hey, if your intention is to build a 'pretty' bike, you could do worse I guess.

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steelworker
12th January 2008, 01:07
I don't really go for that swoopy, pointy crap

Echo that. Not my cup of tea at all. I was hoping things were moving away from this kind of garbage. RUB poser's bike if ever I saw one - trailer it to Daytona and bimble up and down the main drag all day. And as for the price...:yikes:yikes:yikes

If you want a chop that oozes class, just look above.

TrueAmerican
12th January 2008, 01:19
Some of you guy that seem to think that this engine is mounted like a Buell tuber are way off.
The engine on the Redneck looks solidly mounted to the frame while the Buell engine is suspended in the frame and mounted more or less to the swingarm. There is no place on a tube framed Buell engine that mounts directly to the frame, every mounting point is either rubber isolated or allows for movement.

MrChet
26th January 2008, 05:46
I saw this bike in Myrtle Beach last year and wanted to get one. It looks a lot better in person than in the picture and is about 3 feet high. But the price of $5300 for the frame, tanks, shock, fender, and seat tray stopped me. So I'm going with a Red Barron roller for about the same price. But here is the picture I'm useing as my background!
http://www.redneckengineering.com/Carla%20Right%20Side.jpg

TrueAmerican
28th January 2008, 21:41
If I were you I'd do alot of research on Red Barron/DHC before I gave them a dime of my money. http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/buell-xl-forum/46811-stay-away-dhc-red-barron-choppers.html

MrChet
29th January 2008, 03:47
I have a friend that owns Iron Dragon custom bike shop and told me that he was in the middle of a build using a Red Barron roller. He thought it was a great deal and that everything lined up, was straight, and had good welds. He also owns Road King Welding and is real picky about things like that. So after talking in length with him I decided to go that way instead.
I had read those posts but it seems like Daniel's straightened up and is doing things right now. That's probably why the prices are so low, to build up business.

citified
7th March 2008, 04:26
$5300 for the frame, $3500 for the tuber buell. Around $10,000 for a chopper? doesnt sound bad to me.