Do you suppose anyone at Harley-Davidson would be willing to provide the complete cam specs on the stock 04-05 XL1200 and the stock Beull XB-12 cam shafts?

The SE catalog does give the specs on the 04-05 XL specific SE cams.

I would like to compare the 3 cam profiles.

Ron,

04-05 1200 cams are W grind. Andrews website shows the W specs as follows.

.470 lift 234 intake duration, 230 exhaust duration. 08/26 intake timing. 34/14 exhaust timing. Lift at top dead center is .122 for both

Thanks Barry ... :)

FYI: Here is a list of the various cam specs I put together:

I did not include the N9 grind. It is only recommended for stroked
XL engines of at least 80 Cu In, and requires long pushrods in order
to maintain correct hyd. lifter preload (smaller base circle than stock cam)
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Grind: Stock 2000-later XL 1200 ("W" Grind)
(specs as per Andrews' web site) ... I still believe the stock 04-05 cam is a
different grind than the 03 and earlier, but I am not 100% sure of that.

Timing @ .053” Lift Open / Close:
INT. 08 / 26
EXT. 36 / 14

Duration @ .053” Lift:
234 /230

Max Lift:
.470” / .470”

TDC Lift:
.122” / .138”
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Grind: 04-05 specific XL 1200 'SE'
(specs as per the Screamin' Eagle catalog)
Was told that this is actually the Buell XB-12 cam ... But, can't confirm that

P/N: 25197-04

Timing @ .053” Lift Open / Close:
INT. 25 / 44
EXT. 59 / 10

Duration @ .053” Lift:
249 / 249

Max Lift:
.551” / .551”

.TDC Lift:
197” / .122”
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Grind: Andrews N2

P/N: 298130

Timing @ .053” Lift Open / Close:
INT. 22 / 38
EXT. 46 / 18

Duration @ .053” Lift:
240 / 244

Max Lift:
.465” / .440”

TDC Lift:
.180” / .155”
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Grind: Andrews N4

P/N: 298150

Timing @ .053” Lift Open / Close:
INT. 30 / 46
EXT. 52 / 24

Duration @ .053” Lift:
256 / 256

Max Lift:
.490” / .490”

TDC Lift:
.216” / .189”
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Grind: Andrews N8

P/N: 298190

Timing @ .053” Lift Open / Close:
INT. 32 / 44
EXT. 56 / 28

Duration @ .053” Lift:
256 / 264

Max Lift:
.490” / .500”

TDC Lift:
.226” / .212”
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Grind: Andrews N6

P/N: 298170

Timing @ .053” Lift Open / Close:
INT. 34 / 50
EXT. 56 / 28

Duration @ .053” Lift:
264 / 264

Max Lift:
.500” / .500”

TDC Lift:
.241” / .212”

Are the cams in the 04-05 1200 the same as in the 883?

I don't know ... sorry

It was my understanding that the Buell XB-12 and the Sportster 1200 motors have the same cams for 2004-05. The 883's do not have the same cams.

Actually, I was told by my dealer's service dept. manager that the 04-05 XL specific 'SE' cam P/N 25197-04 was in fact the Buell XB-12 cam.

Don't know for sure, but that's what I was told.

I have my factory cams still. I can caliper them to give you the lift but not the duration. If you want I'll do it a bit later tonite.

G'day My onformation is that the 04-05 1200 has W grind cams and that the SE ones are the same as the Buell ones

the stock '04 1200 cams r the "W" cams from the '98-'03 S model... they r 223/240-.476/.476... intake: 5 / 38 , exhaust: 46 / 14...