The XL Forum January Contest is underway for all XL Forum Team members!

The winner will receive the following:

From NRHS: A roll up tool kit a NRHS t-shirt and a NRHS timing cover in your choice of models.

From Scott Alley (sportysrock), an independent AMSOIL dealer: 1 Spider Filter Wrench

From The XL Forum: $300 or your choice of products from NRHS or can be used towards an NRHS purchase.

The questions can be found here http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?p=617799 . (only accessible by XL Forum Team members).

The winner, questions and answers will be announced here when the contest is over.

The prize that Scott Alley (sportysrock), an independent AMSOIL dealer, is donating is 1 Spider Filter Wrench.

Bert, looking at your avatar pic, I'd say you need to slow down some. Great contest btw.

i tried to get into the contest but i con not get in why ?????

You have to be a premier (paying) member.

The contest is complete and here are the questions and answers. Answers are in bold.

The winner will be announced this week after I get a chance to review them. There will be a raffle for the winner since more than one person answered correctly.

Most answers came form Buzz Buzzelli's Sportster Handbook.

The 1958 XLHC and XLC factory brochure desibed the these new bikes as? p. 24

a. The Competition Killers
b. The Racing Wonders
c. The Thrilling Scramblers
d. The Enthusiasts Dream

How many XLCH models were produced in 1979? p. 48

a. 750
b. 551
c. 246
d. 141

The XLT was a touring model Sportster that came stock with saddlebags and windshield. What year did it appear? p. 46

a. 1961
b. 1977
c. 1981
d. 1992

The first Hugger model was sold in what year? p .59

a. 1979
b. 1984
c. 1987
d. 1991

From 1986 to 1987 the standard Sportster carureator was the 34mm bore Keihin with a fixed venturi. p. 77

True
False

On the pre 2004 Sportster Evolution motor which of the rocker box levels actually hold the rocker arms?

a. Top
b. Middle
c. Bottom

Congratulations to the knowledgeable winner. :clap

Lol. I never knew about the contest. Must have
missed the thread. Oh well. Congrats to who ever the winner is! :clap

Congrats to the winner!

I have a book, The Ultimate Harley-Davidson, by Mac McDiarmid that references the Hugger dating back to 1979 twice on two different pages. My other coffee table book says 1987. :doh I know which book not to reference anymore! Maybe that's why it was on sale at Barnes and Noble.

Congrats to the winner!

I have a book, The Ultimate Harley-Davidson, by Mac McDiarmid that references the Hugger dating back to 1979 twice on two different pages. My other coffee table book says 1987. :doh I know which book not to reference anymore! Maybe that's why it was on sale at Barnes and Noble.


Yep, according to Sportster Timeline (http://www.xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=32308) says the first hugger was built in 79 which was an ironhead, The first EVO hugger came out in 1987.

Congrats to the winners!

What did I get? ;)

Yep, according to Sportster Timeline (http://www.xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=32308) says the first hugger was built in 79 which was an ironhead, The first EVO hugger came out in 1987.


I had 1979 too. Question didn't state EVO Hugger. No big deal though, I got one of the other ones wrong too.
Uh oh, I smell conspiracy. Just kidding Bert, I know you work hard on these contests.

Best Regards,
Norm

Congrats!!! I got a ZERO!!:wonderlan

According to sportster.org history "1979: Hugger model available for the first time."

http://www.sportster.org/history/index.shtml#1979

The question never specified EVO.

I had 1979 too. Question didn't state EVO Hugger. No big deal though, I got one of the other ones wrong too.
Uh oh, I smell conspiracy. Just kidding Bert, I know you work hard on these contests.

I got another one wrong too. Looked at a few sites and saw pictures of "rocker boxes" on the top of engines so made the assumption that this was a trick question and that they were always on top.

Anyone know off hand if they were adjustable and if you were actually adjusting the "length" of the pushrod with the rocker being below?

Neat what you can learn from a contest. :tour Thanks for having these Bert!

I thought I read somewhere in a post Bert made that the first 2 questions were being thrown out of the contest? Something about inconsistancy in the answers, or more than one answer, I don't remember now what the reason was for sure.

According to sportster.org history "1979: Hugger model available for the first time."

http://www.sportster.org/history/index.shtml#1979

The question never specified EVO.

That's where I went wrong, too. Same question, same answer, same source. :doh

Fortunately, I at least got the rocker question right (among others). I had enough trouble with the leak on my rocker boxes during the conversion last May that I knew where the rocker was without even thinking. Hell, I did it enough times I could probably remember the pattern and torque specs for each bolt on that rocker box without looking!

I think I got them all right so I have my fingers crossed. But then again I've never done well with raffles.

I thought I read somewhere in a post Bert made that the first 2 questions were being thrown out of the contest? Something about inconsistancy in the answers, or more than one answer, I don't remember now what the reason was for sure.

They were already removed from the list above.

from http://www.motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/harley.html

1979 model year. The XLS Roadster was introduced, a more customised version of the traditional Sportster platform. The first of the Sportster "Hugger" Motorcycles was conceived.

1988 model year, the Sportster “Hugger” derivative joins the model line-up as a full-time member.

I guess there are various answers depending on where you look, internet or books. Good luck to all in the drawing!

I will throw out the Hugger question since there are multiple answers being found on what should be trustworthy references.

Did anyone get em all right?
Congrats to whoever did.

I will throw out the Hugger question since there are multiple answers being found on what should be trustworthy references.

I have another reference for the advertisement answer, but it is not an online reference Technically, the phrase "The Thrilling Scramblers" was never in a FACTORY brochure. Actually, none of them were in a factory brochure. "Competition killers" was an advertisement in another publication though.

That question should be fair game though because Buzz Buzzelli has it in his book. However, I think Buzzelli is wrong unless my reference is wrong.

I have another reference for the advertisement answer, but it is not an online reference Technically, the phrase "The Thrilling Scramblers" was never in a FACTORY brochure. Actually, none of them were in a factory brochure. "Competition killers" was an advertisement in another publication though.

That question should be fair game though because Buzz Buzzelli has it in his book. However, I think Buzzelli is wrong unless my reference is wrong.


Yep, thats why the XLCH stood for "competition killer" or "Competition/California Hot" model according to the Sportster timeline, because of the up graded motor enhancements that year, versus the 1957 XL model which didn't have the upgrades.

Larger ports and valves
High domed pistons
Light ended tappets
Magneto ignition

We're not trying to make this difficult for you Bert, really! Just goes to show how resourceful all the forum members are doesn't it?

Great contest Bert. Now if I can only get you to throw out the last question I might have a chance. Nothing wrong with the question, I just got the answer wrong.

Thanks for putting this forum over the top!

Here is a picture of part of the factory 6 ply brochure.
http://www.harleykrxlrtt.com/images/1958-xlc-leaflet-hds.jpg

Best Regards,
Norm

Here is a picture of the brochure,
http://www.harleykrxlrtt.com/images/1958-xlc-leaflet-hds.jpg

Best Regards,
Norm

I stand corrected. I guess my source was wrong. I still think even if I wasn't wrong, that question was still fair game because it was listed in buzz's book.

Yep, thats why the XLCH stood for "competition killer" or "Competition/California Hot" model <-Snipped->
Larger ports and valves
High domed pistons
Light ended tappets
Magneto ignition

First, we should all hoist one for Bert for an interesting and most educational contest here. :cheers

The "XLCH" designation was explained to me as "Competion Hot" when I bought my first one from a dealer in 1966. It was a '62 model and no one in Upstate NY cared much about about what was hot in CA back then. :doh Except the Beach Boys and Jan & Dean, of course. :clap

I scored less than 50%. Color me a 'rookie biker' :shhhh, I guess.

Keep up the great work here, Bert.

Regards,
Bob G

Any chance of getting a full copy of that brochure re the thrilling scramblers?

First, we should all hoist one for Bert for an interesting and most educational contest here. :cheers

The "XLCH" designation was explained to me as "Competion Hot" when I bought my first one from a dealer in 1966. It was a '62 model and no one in Upstate NY cared much about about what was hot in CA back then. :doh Except the Beach Boys and Jan & Dean, of course. :clap

I scored less than 50%. Color me a 'rookie biker' :shhhh, I guess.

Keep up the great work here, Bert.

Regards,
Bob G


No pun intended, but were i live we don't care how you did it in New York either.:roflblack:bump

Not to stray off topic, but CH standing for Competition Hot is a myth. It was a term coined by the media that then ran wild as dealers picked up on it and used it to hype the bike. But HD never used the letters to designate the bike as "Competition Hot."

It was a bike originally made exclusively for California dealers, at their begging, because they saw their market base buying up bikes, mostly European that were already lighter than Sporties and then they stripped off even more stuff. HD was leary of making such a model but agreed and did a small run for CA dealers only. The "C" denoted California, and the "H" was merely a model designator used by the MoCo. Both letters, obviously would take on different meanings in later years.

Okay, you can now return to your regularly scheduled programming. :)

Congrats to the winner. :cheers

And thanks Bert for bringing back the contests. I missed this one but it's still cool to see it back. :tour

Okay, when's the next contest?

I don't see it anywhere, has the winner(s) of the contest been selected yet?

What's was the ending date for the contest?

And the winner is.....?????

And the Winner is.............






























DOC

Here is the raffle drawing video if you would like verification: http://xlforum.net/xlimages/2007JANXLFORUMCONTEST.wmv Right click the link to download. (16 MB)

Congrats doc.

Bert, couple of questions:

1. Who was filming so they can get credit for the audible special effect at the end?

2. Do you have to claim the bag on your taxes since it was donated?

3. Have you called a critter ridder to get rid of the varmint on your desk?

Congrats DOC !
I would have prefered to win but it was fun anyway.

Good job doc, congrats!

Congrats doc.

Bert, couple of questions:

1. Who was filming so they can get credit for the audible special effect at the end?

2. Do you have to claim the bag on your taxes since it was donated?

3. Have you called a critter ridder to get rid of the varmint on your desk?

1. 23 year old son Patrick, a.k.a The Knucklehead

2. Shhhhhhh!!!!!!

3. That is my pet racoon tail...his name is George.

Congrats Doc!