New Bike - XL1200N - Sportster Nightster

[BlueHen]

Go to the main HD web site. Just a picture on the intro page. No other info is posted yet.

Looks like it only has a single disc brake up front and spoked wheels. Interested to see what the other cosmetic chages are.

[chipdog4]

Chopped fender, fork boots, drilled belt guards.

Ehh?

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

Interesting.

Notice the rear fender is chopped and devoid of a liscence plate bracket.

And the fork sliders have gators to protect the seals?

Am I imagining it, or is that front tire more beefy possibly with some off-road tread too???

[DustyJacket]

I like it :)

[klown]

looks like a nightrain version of the sporty. At least that's what I can tell from the one pic that's up. :smoke

[SportsterBart]

http://www.photopile.com/photos/warchild/bikes/281797.jpg

I like it.

[acenorm]

I think some Harley designer has been on these boards a little too much. That bike looks a lot like a combination of a few bikes on here. Are they going to give Bert or the website a kickback?? BTW, I like it.

Best Regards,
Norm

[wolfgang]

I like it too.

[chrome]

that thing is sweet....

[JohnT]

Specs are up for the bike. Click on the front page image. Changes appear to be cosmetic other than low seat height. $9595 in vivid black, $9990 in a different color.

[DustyJacket]

Click the link on the main page for details.

I copied the URL for you:
http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2007_Motorcycles/2007_Motorcycles.jsp?locale=en_US&swfsection=model&swffamily=sp&swfmodel=xl1200n&swfgallery=dom_video_01

[Crusin_w00kie]

*RUNS OUT TO DEALER TO BUY 2ND SPORTY*

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE, that thing looks bada$$!!!!!!11!11!1!

All black, FTMFW!!!! (needs fwd controls) :D

[drummer5140]

I like it.......

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

Specs are up for the bike. Click on the front page image. Changes appear to be cosmetic other than low seat height. $9595 in vivid black, $9990 in a different color.

Holy crap it's slammed...

3.9 in. of ground clearance :frownthre and the worst lean angles of the entire sporty family... :rolleyes:


Chopped front and rear fenders; side-mount license plate; stop-tail-turn lights; low 25.3" seat height; front fork gaiters; new graphics and engine finish; black finishes throughout

[hawk mechanic]

I LIKE IT. Does anyone around here have $9595 to loan me for a bit? It looks badazz in black, but I am a sucker for some orange at times. Thanks Mr. Harley Man for making this for us.

[robert]

Nice bike. I can't wait to see one in person.

[davidc]

I need my wife to take MSF course to give me a reason to buy a new bike and she can ride the 883. It looks nice and alot of the mods done that I would be afraid of doing myself, cutting fenders, changing bars etc..

[jwb47]

very cool im not to wild about the low seat but the rest sure looks good

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

I'm really surprised at myself.

I really do like it more than I hate it.

I've been about black over chrome since I saw my first Ironhead "Sturgis" model all those years ago.

And the black mirrors, black motor, black fork lowers, black turn signals and feck, black rims, are all styling cues I tend to like.

I don't generally care for spokes, but I MIGHT be getting over that, especially with the black rims.

And I DEFINITELY don't care for the ride height, ground/cornering clearance, but visually I like it a lot.

hmmmmm

Kev

[seajay]

It needs a 88" engine:D :D

[chrome]

We were just looking at it, and there is more detail....there also is a news release that tells a little about it too....

look at the belt guard, and then the front fender mounts.

[Crusin_w00kie]

And I DEFINITELY don't care for the ride height, ground/cornering clearance, but visually I like it a lot.

hmmmmm

Kev

Progressive 412's, 12.5" or more and a front fork kit also. Should solve the problem.

I'm not a big fan of the seat, maybe a Brawler to set me back a little more and some fwd controls (bring them to a friends shop, blast the chrome off of them and powder coat them back!!!) Hmm..sounds like a plan. Oh ya, needs smoked markers also and it's a win!

[klown]

That's a sweet looking ride. :smoke

[cgp-1200R]

I wonder what it sounds like with those mufflers

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

I wonder what it sounds like with those mufflers

I'm guessing like any other 2007 1200 with THOSE mufflers...




























:sofa :laugh

[roadogette]

I really like it.:banana :banana :banadanc :banadanc

[Crusin_w00kie]

Specs anyone!!

(For Kev, cause he's picky) :D

5 inches shorter than the 1200c and 1200r

20lbs LESS than a 1200r (17lbs less than a 1200c)

lean angles

Nightster 30 deg/29 deg
Custom 31 deg/29 deg
Roadster 32 deg/32 deg

So, how much difference does 20lbs really make on a bike??? Looks like the BT's need to come up with a light weight now........:laugh

[doc]

Looks like the wife may get her bike afterall!!! I like it and I bet she will too.

[snowman]

Definitely a step in the right direction from H-D!!!! But I agree with some others that there are better looking bikes on this forum than this one!!
IMHO.........:geek:geek:geek

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

5 inches shorter than the 1200c and 1200r



HUH?

overall length? no way --- besides overall the 1200C and 1200R are different lengths aren't they? Cause of that front end on the 1200C.

height? uhhhh that sounds like too much...

damn, you're gonna make me go back to the stupid website and check specs again aren't you...

k

[kiltbill]

I wonder what it sounds like with those mufflers


Click on view Gallery and you get a video clip, the mufflers sound sweet for standard.

Oh and my .02 c. I like it a LOT! Perhaps it's time to cancel the Dyna and renegotiate! :doh

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

HUH?

overall length? no way --- besides overall the 1200C and 1200R are different lengths aren't they? Cause of that front end on the 1200C.

damn, you're gonna make me go back to the stupid website and check specs again aren't you...

k

ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, now I get it.

Most of that is from the damn fender and tail-light... duhhhhhhhhhh:doh

[hrg]

wow, i like it,great looking bike

:sporty: :luvsport :hrflag

[doc]

It is about an inch lower than the low also.

[capttawes]

Looks nice. Real good effort at competing with the bobber market, at least they did not call it a "Sport Bob" :D

[CaptEvo]

Pretty cool looking....I like that 19" front tire......HD has definately been look at this forum.....Put a baby head on the back of that thing and it would look like Preacher's bike.

[SportsterBart]

Pretty cool looking....I like that 19" front tire......HD has definately been look at this forum.....Put a baby head on the back of that thing and it would look like Preacher's bike.

LOL! I was thinking the same thing :laugh

[tim4hire]

It's a chopped and lowered 1200r! Pretty cool lookin I think.Tho that side mounted plate is gonna catch some knees!:doh Maybe the'll be a mod to put a hinge on it.:clap
All the color schemes are hot!(except the baby blue!)
So now since there done with the anniversary models in the production line they come up with this hot lookin bar hopper good move! I say there not gonna be able to keep on the showroom floor.

[black-n-blue sporty]

sweet looking bike, I like it. The all black is nice but I like the black and silver also.

[tim4hire]

Pretty cool looking....I like that 19" front tire......HD has definately been look at this forum.....Put a baby head on the back of that thing and it would look like Preacher's bike.

OMG! :wonderlan Your so right Preacher should sue! for steelin his design ideas!

[MisterB]

Now that's the ONLY factory "stock" Sportster I have ever seen that actually looks good. Most of them need several thousand bucks in accessories to come close to looking that nice. With this bike, I'd add forward controls and a tach, and realistically that would about do it (although I'm sure I'd find something else to add later on...).

Nice job Harley. You have been paying attention to the owners of the best selling, longest production bike in your history.

[cgp-1200R]

after seeing the video i like it

[gymrat523]

I really like it, they did up front what i want, must be a mistake they can't put out a bike that is liked the way it is, no aftermarket sales.

[xena]

I think it's fugly but interesting
that it has a lower seat height
than the 1200 Low.

[Moved On]

I F'n Suing Them !!!:rippedoff :smoke :smoke

They stole my design, if they come out with a red & cream color I'll be a billionaire :D

:geek I like it though...

Gazza

[Moved On]

Here's a big pic...

http://a1264.g.akamai.net/7/1264/734/e95eeeae45de09/resource.harley-davidson.com/pr/mot/2007/images/colors/2007_xl1200n_1024.jpg

Gazza

[pquirk]

The new tank graphics are filled with "street cred" I gotta have one :doh . Looks cool though, I dig it. :)

[EZStroke]

Just talked to my salesman at Annapolis HD, they haven't seem it yet, but they're logging on for sure!

It's definitely a 'bad boy!'.

[BlueHen]

Here are my problems with this bike:

Rocker Box, Derby & Inspection covers should be wrinkle black

Use of Brawler seat leaves a two inch gap between seat & tank

Black cast wheels from 1200L should be standard (with the black laced as an option)

For this price premium over a 883R you should at least get either a tach or dual front discs.

Other than that, a nice bike and a step in the right direction. The black denim paint from the Street Bob would also be a great option.

[chipdog4]

I think I'm more in love with that song on the video...

Anyone have a clue what it is?

[OldFenderGuy]

Here is the official HD News Release that came out today...



Harley-Davidson XL 1200N Nightster Rocks on the Road



New Sportster Model Fuses Fiendish Formula of Performance and Style

ORLANDO, Fla., Jan. 29 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Harley-Davidson
Sportster motorcycles get a burst of adrenalin with the launch of the new
XL 1200N Nightster. With a wicked combination of exceptional performance,
unique design and a low seat height, the Nightster has a gritty, urban feel
offering a sharp ride for the street.
The new Sportster model was announced today at the Harley-Davidson
Winter Dealer Meeting in Orlando, Fla. Blending a low seat height and
mid-mount controls with the powerful torque of the rubber-mounted Evolution
V-Twin engine, the XL 1200N Nightster adds another exciting option to the
Sportster family.
"The XL 1200N Nightster is a blacked-out street bike that continues a
half century of Sportster tradition of innovative, fun and versatile
motorcycles," said Bill Davidson, Harley-Davidson Director of Motorcycle
Product Development. "With loads of truly select features and components,
the Nightster takes all the enhancements made to the Sportster family in
recent years to an entirely different level."
The distinctive look and feel of the XL 1200N Nightster centers on a
low seat height of 25.3 inches that makes it comparable to the XL Sportster
883 Low, an inch lower than the XL Sportster 1200 Low and among the lowest
riding of all Harley-Davidson models. Besides enjoying the lower seat
height, the Nightster rider goes solo with a one-piece, Sportster classic
seat.
The mood gets drastically darker on this new Sportster, as the
Nightster features a host of black components. Black wheel rims and hubs
contrast with chrome spokes, while the front forks and clamp, headlight
cover, handlebar, levers, turn signals and air cleaner insert are all
finished in black.
The rear belt guard and front fender clamps are also black, but are
opened up with a bullet hole pattern. The rear fender is cut back to show
more of the rear tire. The back of the Nightster rides without a separate
tail light, as that feature is integrated with the rear turn signals.
Taking the latest Sportster design for a ride into the past, the
Nightster features a side-mounted license plate holder and front fork
gaiters. While the side-mount license plate is a street design cue, the
fork gaiters are a retro component that can help protect the fork seals
from dirt and debris.
The Nightster rides smoothly with a 1200cc Evolution engine, which
features a new Medium Gray finish with polished and black treatments. The
transmission and airbox cover also sport the new finish. The Evolution
engine provides a responsive throttle and high performance, while the
integrated transmission has quietly meshing helical cut gears and
lightweight dog rings that reduce shift effort.
Like all 2007 Sportsters, the Nightster has Electronic Sequential Port
Fuel Injection (ESPFI), reduced clutch lever effort, redesigned gauges,
high performance carbon fiber belts and improved front brake lever effort.
As part of the original Harley-Davidson hot rod motorcycle family, the
Nightster has a design refined from the racetrack to the street that is
primed for customized creativity.
The Nightster is available in Vivid Black, as well as four two-tone
paint schemes with a unique Harley-Davidson fuel tank graphic. The fuel
cap, headlamp trim ring and oil dipstick cover are coated in a new Silver
Satin finish. The Nightster is offered only in North American markets.
The XL 1200N Nightster features:

Rubber-mounted 1200cc XL Evolution engine
Medium Gray powder-coated engine with polished and black treatments
Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)
High-compression, high-flow cylinder heads
High-performance cams
Smooth, quiet transmission
Light clutch lever effort
25.3-inch solo seat height
Low front and rear suspension
Black front forks with gaiters
Bullet hole rear belt guard and front fender clamps
Black, low rise handlebar with brake and clutch levers, turn signals
and air cleaner insert
Side-mounted license plate holder (dealer-installed rear mount option)
Brake and tail lights integrated with rear turn signals
Black mid-mount foot controls
Black-rimmed, Laced Steel wheels
Chrome staggered shorty slash cut dual exhaust
Silver Satin finish fuel cap, headlamp trim ring and oil dipstick
cover
Optional Smart Security System
Harley-Davidson, Inc. (NYSE: HOG) is the parent company for the group
of companies doing business as Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Buell
Motorcycle Company and Harley-Davidson Financial Services. Harley-Davidson
Motor Company produces heavyweight street, custom and touring motorcycles
and offers a complete line of motorcycle parts, accessories, apparel and
general merchandise. Buell Motorcycle Company produces sport motorcycles in
addition to motorcycle parts, accessories and apparel. Harley-Davidson
Financial Services, Inc. provides wholesale and retail financing and
insurance programs to Harley-Davidson/Buell dealers and customers.



SOURCE Harley-Davidson Motor Company

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[FredrikK]

It's a Sporty Street Bob, looks rather hefty

[Snuffy]

Now thats what the 50th anniversary model should have looked like instead of the bling they put the R model

[Crusin_w00kie]

Now thats what the 50th anniversary model should have looked like instead of the bling they put the R model

Troof!!

But the 50th anniversary bike does look nice. I prefer this new bike though!!

[MidWest XL]

Schweet!

I like it.

[turfpro]

Id like to see the price for the wheels! Great bike, I love it.

[KSDAPIMP]

wow i really like it . the side mount plate is very nice but looks a lil high. gees all in all i really like it BLACK APES would look very nice lol

[gwcrim]

The new tank graphics are filled with "street cred" ......

WTF is "street cred"????

I guess I'm getting too old to know the whipper snappers lingo.

[celtic]

if it had higher seat height and clearance, an ALL blacked out engine, a tach and dual discs,

i'd feel pissed that i didn't wait until spring to buy my 07R

but since it's more money for a less capable bike, i can just look at it and think "she's a good looker"

[Jason's Sporty]

back fender is sweet! can't believe how much they want for a 1200 low with chopped fenders though. I will gladly wait till the XR FINALLY comes to the states. I have been pestering the moco for a while about info on it, so far no response but hey, they can't ignore me forever!

[ed_in_az]

HD staff really have been spending time on the XLForum.

Looks like that's a good thing too.

Beautiful bike. I too wonder what Preacher thinks of it.

I like all the colors except the blue. That olive over black is special.

I'd have to lift it a bit, but still, it's Mmmmmmm good!

[xtheunknown]

I really like it. If I ever get the dough to own two bikes, I will trade my '06 1200C for a Nightster and buy a Road King Custom (or Classic.) I would trade my bike for one of these now but it lacks a 4.5 gallon tank (I do alot of long distance riding) and saddlebags and a rack would ruin the bike.

The bigger deal here is that Harley seems squarely commited to the Sportster.

[CBAS5]

I like everything about it except the slammed suspension. Has anybody else noticed that the wet weight of the bike is 20lbs lighter than the wet weight of the roadster?

I like the gaitors on the forks. I have been considering adding a pair to my bike and now I can get the 1200N ones that will fit my forks properly.

The coloring on these bikes is great as well. I like all of them. The black and orange. The light blue and black. The green and black. The silver and black.

Oh well, I'm not going to go run and trade my bike in. I would change my choice of what I bought if I had to do it over though.

[bassboy311]

Check it out guys, the MoCo decided to put out a new Sportster thats actually pretty bad ass. Too bad they didn't put a 180 or 200 tire on the back. If they had I would be going down to the dealer to trade mine in today.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r132/bassboy311/200N.jpg

[JBM]

Basically a 883L with a 1200 engine, added nice bobber styling and then some.
Nice wheels. Engine looks good.
The olive and black color scheme is awesome.
/Jan

[Clipper]

I like the basic concept and graphics but it would sure need better ground clearance and lean angles if you wanted to do any serious carving. Not a fan of the slammed look.

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

I like everything about it except the slammed suspension. Has anybody else noticed that the wet weight of the bike is 20lbs lighter than the wet weight of the roadster?

The weight of a tachometer, second caliper and disc, some sheetmetal and ????

Differences in wheels maybe? Though you expect mags to be light, maybe the wires are lighter? I dunno....

K

[DustyJacket]

there has been another thread all day on this same subject.

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

I like the basic concept and graphics but it would sure need better ground clearance and lean angles if you wanted to do any serious carving. Not a fan of the slammed look.

Ya know I'd forgotten that they'd LOWERED the 883L slightly more for 07.

Well, judging by the way that DRCstang can ride his in the twisties, maybe I gotta stop being such a grumpy bastard about the lowered bikes.

Yeah they touch down sooner, but he REALLY could get his around a turn pretty well. I venture many people will own and ride this, even a tad on teh agressive side without worrying too much about the ground clearance.

YES, if you throw it into turns you'll run out soon, even sooner the bigger you are, but for real world riding I bet it will be fine for most people.

Signed,

Starting to open his mind a little more...

[busboyblues]

Hey guys, dumb question, but can you put a pair of fork gators over regular forks, just for the looks of it? I guess I'm not sure of what their purpose is? Are they only for a certain type of fork?

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

Hey guys, dumb question, but can you put a pair of fork gators over regular forks, just for the looks of it? I guess I'm not sure of what their purpose is? Are they only for a certain type of fork?

Yes, you just have to find a set that fits the size of what you have.

Their purpose is to protect the sliders from things (dirt, bug, debris, nicks etc) that could damage the fork seals.

[doc]

Here it is: Nightster (http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=46349)

[snowman]

I knew I'd seen this bike before on the forum..... Was it the H-D prototype???

Here's a shot I grabbed last March!!!!!!! :frownthre :frownthre :frownthre

[busboyblues]

Ah, thanks Kev. Do you know of any place that sells them?

[birdmove]

I'm sure you could find somw to fit.
I flat love this new Sporty. Reminds somewhat of my old 1984 XLX1000.Except those had the cast wheels and were not lowered. I've been thinking of getting a new Sporty-possibly an XL883R, but now I have to rethink it all.
I'm not thrilled with the fact these have less ground clearance though. At 5'10" I don't need a 25" seat heigth.

Jon

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

Ah, thanks Kev. Do you know of any place that sells them?

They're MUCH more popular with the Metric crowd, so I'd try any Metric catalog, even from J&P or the like.

Only problem would be fit, i.e. how they are to be secured to the fork legs.

Plus you'd have to remove the lowers to put them on (unless they are of a split design, like those cheesy replacement CV-boots that are supposed to go on without disassembling the joint).

Of course, with some patience, I imagine the Harley ones will become available...

[melcheld]

I think some Harley designer has been on these boards a little too much. That bike looks a lot like a combination of a few bikes on here. Are they going to give Bert or the website a kickback?? BTW, I like it.

Best Regards,
Norm

I agree totally. There are so many bikes on here with the same fender chop its not even funny. The only mod I haven't seen on this forum is drilling out the front fender brackets- big deal. If they did take some of those ideas from the forum, you'd think the Moco would have listened to us about the crappy suspension by now.

I dig it.

Cheers,

Luke

P.S. A little LOL from the HD website's feature section on the 1200N: "New Tank Graphics Packed With Street Cred". :laugh

[birdmove]

Man, fast growing thread here. Hey, don't you guys work? I work at an HD/Buell dealer and have Sun/Mon off.
I can't wait until we get one of these in.Bet it won't be there long though.

Jon in Puyallup, Wa.USA

[busboyblues]

Thanks, now I just gotta figger out if they'll fit:
(from J&P)

http://www.jpcycles.com/productgroup.aspx?GID=DC7A561B-C820-4318-9084-F2636A4E48AA&search=fork%20boots&store=All&page=1

Rubber Fork Boots

These old school 'gator' boots are available in black or red, in 39mm and 41mm sizes. The 39mm boots measure 7" extended, about 3-1/2" collapsed, with an upper ID of 1-1/2" (39mm) and a lower ID of 2-9/16" (65mm ). The 41mm boots measure 9" extended and about 4-1/2" collapsed, with an upper ID of 1-5/8" (41mm) and a lower ID of 2-9/16" (65mm). Sold in pairs.

Note: Disassembly of forks is required.

[Moved On]

Just talked to my salesman at Annapolis HD, they haven't seem it yet, but they're logging on for sure!

Yea I have to swing by the dealer tonight with a picture. It always pisses them off that I know about the new Sportsters before they do :banadanc


Hey guys, dumb question, but can you put a pair of fork gators over regular forks, just for the looks of it? I guess I'm not sure of what their purpose is? Are they only for a certain type of fork?
Yea, you can get them at Licks Cycles or the ones for Jeeps fit from any Advanced Auto.

Gazza

[CBAS5]

Of course, with some patience, I imagine the Harley ones will become available...

Since it's a stock part on the 1200N I can't imagine it taking too long to show up. I have been searching for a pair for my sportster without much luck. I am guaranteed the harley ones will fit well. I'm not big on the looks of them, but from what I hear they sure make fork seals last a long time.

[83XLX]

Check out these that I put on my XLX. They're from a Honda GB500 and fit like they were made for my bike (but I have 35mm forks). The lower ends even snap into lower leg groove for the old dust caps.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/rotcorp52/83xlx-4195-2.jpg

The Nightster is pretty cool, specially in olive.

[AZFlyingDiver]

19" spoked front, wider tire? (Just guessing from lookin') I like that.

[MJK]

I like it alot, I've thought about a paint scheme like that for a long time. I wonder what the $$$ will be.

[chrome]

MJK There you go....about what i paid for my 04 1200R....i'm starting to like it more and more each time i look at it.

Vivid black $ 9,595
Two-tone $ 9,990

[bwheeler111]

Even at that price they can't include matching side covers. Denim black tank and vivid black side covers looks terrible.

I would still take one though!!!

[Gone]

CRAP...i wasnt sure if i ws going to get a sporty or a superglide. Now im really thinking!! I do like this sporty ALOT !! Buying in the next 2 weeks so i need to hurry and decide. Going to go call my dealer and see when they will get one........................

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

Even at that price they can't include matching side covers. Denim black tank and vivid black side covers looks terrible.

I would still take one though!!!

I dunno but I think matching sidecovers look like poo on a sporty.

Maybe I'm in the minority and they like selling em for extra $$$

or maybe I'm in the majority.

I haven't paid attention to the Denim black though...maybe the Demin with the vivid does suck in person, I'll try to remember to look for that...

[bwheeler111]

I dunno but I think matching sidecovers look like poo on a sporty.

Maybe I'm in the minority and they like selling em for extra $$$

or maybe I'm in the majority.

I haven't paid attention to the Denim black though...maybe the Demin with the vivid does suck in person, I'll try to remember to look for that...

I think this:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/bwheeler111/harley001.jpg?t=1170103376


Looks much better than this:
http://i16.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/84/ef/02ee_1.JPG

[ed_in_az]

I dunno but I think matching sidecovers look like poo on a sporty.

I think my factory matched vivid black side covers look fine.:p

I'm seeing more votes here for that olive/black paint scheme too. I'll be that bike with a set of black Pro-Steet pipes could take a trophy at a show if no one realized it was a production bike. Beauuuuty!

[Dlish]

the only thing they are missing is exhaust wrap. I guess its cool the MOCO is following what so many of us have already done, but I feel like like they took our thunder. Maybe now ill move the license plate back to the fender cuz the moco has theirs on the side. I think its too much of a rip off of what so many people put hours and hours into around here. And im going to go drink alone until im blue in the face and screaming at nonexistent people.......

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

I think this:


http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/bwheeler111/harley001.jpg?t=1170103376

Looks much better than this:
http://i16.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/84/ef/02ee_1.JPG

I surprisingly like them both.

Maybe it's the two-tone thing, or the gray... neither looks like poo to my surprise...

Boy it's been a day of revelations...

K

[oakies]

I like it..In the solid black.....But no way is it worth $1000 more than a Roadster

[CBAS5]

the only thing they are missing is exhaust wrap. I guess its cool the MOCO is following what so many of us have already done, but I feel like like they took our thunder. Maybe now ill move the license plate back to the fender cuz the moco has theirs on the side. I think its too much of a rip off of what so many people put hours and hours into around here. And im going to go drink alone until im blue in the face and screaming at nonexistent people.......

When the Moco was chrome, the public went flat black. When the Moco goes flat black, maybe the public will go chrome. Then my bike can be back to cutting edge styling :)

[slolx50]

Doesn't look too bad...

I still like mine better...


http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/medium/DSC02813.JPG

http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/medium/DSC02812.JPG


And it didn't cost near as much!

[oakies]

Doesn't look too bad...

I still like mine better...


http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/medium/DSC02813.JPG

http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/medium/DSC02812.JPG


And it didn't cost near as much!


Yours looks WAY better

[Moved On]

Word from a guy at the rollout at the winter dealer meeting in Orlando today...

when they drove the bike out on the stage to introduce it, the dude ridin' it did a burnout for @90 seconds, completely obscuring all views of the "four cam fury."

shipment begins on this in feb (and will continue for the rest of the 07 model year till june)and this is NOT a "limited" deal...a full production unit that will also be a part of the 2008 product line. SO....DO NOT LET YOUR LOCAL DEALER (OR "STEALERSHIP") CHARGE YOU TOO MUCH OR TRY TO PULL SOME LIMITED PRODUCTION BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!

as far as additional ponies & handling issues the dude that hatched this baby ("Rich") is ALL about performance... he is pursuing ways to "lighten the load"/improve power to weight ratio AND he is, by all accounts, passionate (a STRONG word!) about reminding everyone that SPORTster is derived from the word sport.

Gazza

[bwheeler111]

Doesn't look too bad...

I still like mine better...


http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/medium/DSC02813.JPG

http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/medium/DSC02812.JPG


And it didn't cost near as much!


I like it. I was thinking the Nightster would look good with Drag Bars.

[melcheld]

I'm heading to the Minneapolis Int'l Motorcycle Show this weekend. Hopefully they'll have one in the HD booth and I'll snap a few photos- a real world pic and not the doctored-up media shots.

Cheers,

Luke

[Gone]

I think the fork gaiters were to add more blackout.

[bwheeler111]

Word from a guy at the rollout at the winter dealer meeting in Orlando today...



Gazza

I wonder if they have one at Orlando HD. I am going to go by there tomorrow and see if it is there.

[roadogette]

I like the bike, but it needs forward controls, and a 4.5 gallon tank.

[crackers]

that bike would require less mods than mine to turn it into the bike i want

cheers
crackers

[Gone]

I think the two-tone gray and black gives it the old-school cafe look. Looks far better than the Thruxton, which came out sort of cheesy due to poor finish details.

[mroy05]

I agree with the folks who think that it needs the tach and dual brakes.
Does look cool. I especially like the olive and black.

[mikeLI_77]

Pretty cool looking....I like that 19" front tire......HD has definately been look at this forum.....Put a baby head on the back of that thing and it would look like Preacher's bike.

That was one of my first thoughts also. Seems like a few of the quad cam bastards are getting there ideas stolen from HD?:)

alright preacher come on out and tell us. how much have you been selling your ideas to harley for?:D

[xllent01]

Looks better than the last POS they called a Sportster!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap :laugh :doh

Oh the agony of these new fangled RUBS riding around like a bunch of badass trendy types with there new sporty bobbed fenders. :laugh :frownthre :roflblack

Looks like H-D has been spying on the forum.:( LOL

[Shu]

A hit from HD in my opinion. I like all the little extras they did. And yeah I think they have been on the Forum lurking;) I would like to see one in flat black (up) and vivid black (down) two tone though. If not flat black maybe the same dark charcoal gray as the new engine cases. Wrap the exhaust too. A lower profile solo seat. All in all, I applaud HD on this one!

[XL O.C.D.]

I like the bike, and would really like to know where the 20lb drop is so that I can get to work.
Some of those parts will be making their way on to my bike.
Specifically, the belt guard, and quite possibly the wheels. I'm guessing those wheels will drop some poundage from my 21 up front and disc in the rear. ?

The seat - tank gap surprises me as it seems HD's a little more 'committed' to the look than is typical from them.

[titus95]

wicked!!!!

[cantolina]

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2007_Motorcycles/2007_Motorcycles.jsp?swfsection=model&swffamily=sp&swfmodel=xl1200n&locale=en_US&swfgallery=dom_video_01

[jamman]

you just get up chuck? Lol they have a big thread already on here..

[IamVince]

Pretty cool http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2007_Motorcycles/2007_Motorcycles.jsp?locale=en_US&swfsection=model&swffamily=sp&swfmodel=xl1200n&swfgallery=dom_video_01
Whoops this is old news for you folks

[LuxBlue]

Not much for the color scheme but I like the fenders.

[wagoneer12]

I'm thinking those black wheels will look nice on this.......

http://befree.homestead.com/files/quadcam/quadcam1.jpg

[tim4hire]

Horn cowbell is gone!:clap
Really cleans up that side and you can see motor!:clap

[MisterB]

the only thing they are missing is exhaust wrap. I guess its cool the MOCO is following what so many of us have already done, but I feel like like they took our thunder. Maybe now ill move the license plate back to the fender cuz the moco has theirs on the side. I think its too much of a rip off of what so many people put hours and hours into around here. And im going to go drink alone until im blue in the face and screaming at nonexistent people.......

And where did many of the people on this forum get the inspiration and ideas to transform their bikes? From bike magazines, bike shows, and maybe even some T.V. shows. Very few will admit it, but it is true. Sort of narrow minded for us to think that we have all the original ideas, and that HD has tons of time to come on this web site and steal them.

I applaud HD for finally making a modern day Sportster that looks cool out of the box. This can only serve to improve the opinion of the Sportster line that enthusiasts already know to be one of the best bikes available.

[carl2124]

My buddy just traded his 06 fatboy for an 06 Road King....now I see this sh*&^t.... I like it....is life trying to tell me that I need a new Sportster (1200n) or should I consider going to the dark side?
naaaaa...I have my 05 just where I want it... comfort level and all..:smoke ;)

[Gary7]

Wonder why Harley doesn't do a Screamin' Eagle CVO Sportster along these lines? Stage 2 from the factory. SE Street Performance mufflers from the factory. (These slash cuts are nothing but cosmetically different stock mufflers. You can tell that from the taper.)

[Gone]

My dealer didnt even know it was there on the h-d website till i told him. kinda hard to figure out when one will be in if they dont know they can get one..lol

[hoosier xlc]

Maybe they should call it the 1200N, the N for NOT thier idea!!! Looks like HD has been lurking on this site and using the resources from here to design a bike they couldn't think of themselves!! I have seen alot of bikes on here that looks similar to this one LONG before HD had an idea about it! Go ahead and flame me for telling the truth!

[Scooter_Trash]

I'm diggin' it. Bet that comes as a surprise.

[xllent01]

Maybe they should call it the 1200N, the N for NOT thier idea!!! Looks like HD has been lurking on this site and using the resources from here to design a bike they couldn't think of themselves!! I have seen alot of bikes on here that looks similar to this one LONG before HD had an idea about it! Go ahead and flame me for telling the truth!


Hootie you got that right, the individuality part is gone,:doh Kinda like part of the forum has just died, this bike will be as common as your local McDonalds on every intersection you see.

No way in hell did H-D think of that on there own, they are famous for searching the lastest trends in motorcycles and taking it to production, like the V-rod, Streetbob, Badboy etc, it should be no big shock for those who have been around H-D for along time to see them venture into trendy waters, they've been doing it for over 100 yrs now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Although the bike is kewl overall, just wish it had bigger HP numbers, 180 tire, and kinda a mix between what it is now and something mixed with the CVO lineup.

[jprior]

I like the tank graphics and solo seat. The rest is not really my style. But I really like the fact that HD is not neglecting the Sportster family. Next, I'd love to see a Screamin Eagle edition.

[Jimbos883]

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2007_Motorcycles/2007_Motorcycles.jsp?swfsection=model&swffamily=sp&swfmodel=xl1200n&locale=en_US&swfgallery=dom_video_01

[wagoneer12]

1971 super glide
1984 soft tail
1991 dyna series
2007 Nightster

[buckhorns]

I like the looks. I think maybe one of their designers has been taking pics of member bikes.

[phantom]

Very cool.I like it.

[hooptygoo]

It looks cool enough to be my desktop wallpaper :)

[Johnny G]

I want the black wheels , but I bet I won't be getting those cheap to soon. Overall I like it, it just adds another sporty to the stable.

[Scooter_Trash]

First I was excited about it, but the more I look at it the more irritated I get. Weird. Makes me feel like I could have bought this bike and half of the work I did would have already been done by the factory.

[Jimbos883]

Harley-Davidson XL 1200N Nightster Rocks
New Sportster Model Fuses Fiendish Formula of Performance and Style

ORLANDO, Fla., Jan. 29 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Harley-Davidson Sportster motorcycles get a burst of adrenalin with the launch of the new XL 1200N Nightster. With a wicked combination of exceptional performance, unique design and a low seat height, the Nightster has a gritty, urban feel offering a sharp ride for the street.


The new Sportster model was announced today at the Harley-Davidson Winter Dealer Meeting in Orlando, Fla. Blending a low seat height and mid-mount controls with the powerful torque of the rubber-mounted Evolution V-Twin engine, the XL 1200N Nightster adds another exciting option to the Sportster family.

"The XL 1200N Nightster is a blacked-out street bike that continues a half century of Sportster tradition of innovative, fun and versatile motorcycles," said Bill Davidson, Harley-Davidson Director of Motorcycle Product Development. "With loads of truly select features and components, the Nightster takes all the enhancements made to the Sportster family in recent years to an entirely different level."

The distinctive look and feel of the XL 1200N Nightster centers on a low seat height of 25.3 inches that makes it comparable to the XL Sportster 883 Low, an inch lower than the XL Sportster 1200 Low and among the lowest riding of all Harley-Davidson models. Besides enjoying the lower seat height, the Nightster rider goes solo with a one-piece, Sportster classic seat.

The mood gets drastically darker on this new Sportster, as the Nightster features a host of black components. Black wheel rims and hubs contrast with chrome spokes, while the front forks and clamp, headlight cover, handlebar, levers, turn signals and air cleaner insert are all finished in black.

The rear belt guard and front fender clamps are also black, but are opened up with a bullet hole pattern. The rear fender is cut back to show more of the rear tire. The back of the Nightster rides without a separate tail light, as that feature is integrated with the rear turn signals.

Taking the latest Sportster design for a ride into the past, the Nightster features a side-mounted license plate holder and front fork gaiters. While the side-mount license plate is a street design cue, the fork gaiters are a retro component that can help protect the fork seals from dirt and debris.

The Nightster rides smoothly with a 1200cc Evolution engine, which features a new Medium Gray finish with polished and black treatments. The transmission and airbox cover also sport the new finish. The Evolution engine provides a responsive throttle and high performance, while the integrated transmission has quietly meshing helical cut gears and lightweight dog rings that reduce shift effort.

Like all 2007 Sportsters, the Nightster has Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI), reduced clutch lever effort, redesigned gauges, high performance carbon fiber belts and improved front brake lever effort.

As part of the original Harley-Davidson hot rod motorcycle family, the Nightster has a design refined from the racetrack to the street that is primed for customized creativity.

The Nightster is available in Vivid Black, as well as four two-tone paint schemes with a unique Harley-Davidson fuel tank graphic. The fuel cap, headlamp trim ring and oil dipstick cover are coated in a new Silver Satin finish. The Nightster is offered only in North American markets.

The XL 1200N Nightster features:

Rubber-mounted 1200cc XL Evolution engine
Medium Gray powder-coated engine with polished and black treatments
Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)
High-compression, high-flow cylinder heads
High-performance cams
Smooth, quiet transmission
Light clutch lever effort
25.3-inch solo seat height
Low front and rear suspension
Black front forks with gaiters
Bullet hole rear belt guard and front fender clamps
Black, low rise handlebar with brake and clutch levers, turn signals
and air cleaner insert
Side-mounted license plate holder (dealer-installed rear mount option)
Brake and tail lights integrated with rear turn signals
Black mid-mount foot controls
Black-rimmed, Laced Steel wheels
Chrome staggered shorty slash cut dual exhaust
Silver Satin finish fuel cap, headlamp trim ring and oil dipstick
cover
Optional Smart Security System

Harley-Davidson, Inc. HOG is the parent company for the group of companies doing business as Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Buell Motorcycle Company and Harley-Davidson Financial Services. Harley-Davidson Motor Company produces heavyweight street, custom and touring motorcycles and offers a complete line of motorcycle parts, accessories, apparel and general merchandise. Buell Motorcycle Company produces sport motorcycles in addition to motorcycle parts, accessories and apparel. Harley-Davidson Financial Services, Inc. provides wholesale and retail financing and insurance programs to Harley-Davidson/Buell dealers and customers.

Copyright 2007 PRNewswire

[bshadbolt]

I like the styling a lot. It is a lot closer to what I am trying to do with my bike than the R.

Cheers,

Brett

[opiewontaylor]

I like chrome. I think rubber gators are fugly, and I was glad when most of the bike makers quit using them for street bikes 20 years ago. Wouldn't want a solo seat either. Outside of that, it's a very sharp looking bike. The shiny rocker covers don't fit the overall style though. And yes, there are plenty of better looking bikes right here on this forum.

[E-Man]

I think it looks bad-ass! I couldn't ride it though. As it is, standard controls on my regular XL sometimes feel cramped. This looks like it would be somewhat uncomfortable for anyone 6' up.

Then again...gotta sit on it to tell...

[maddog]

It needs a 88" engine:D :D

What doesn't ???

[maddog]

I like the styling a lot. It is a lot closer to what I am trying to do with my bike than the R.

Cheers,

Brett

I think you hit the key to this model brett... An alternative to the "R".
Plus, I think the MoCo has been peekin at the XLF to see what the proletariat
have been drooling over.

[cgp-1200R]

That would be uber cool if they did.

[oakies]

I like it..I think the MOCO saw how good the Dyna Street Bob was selling..and figured they would make a Sportster counterpart....But for $1000 more than a Roadster..I dont think so

There are a lot nicer bobbers here, built my members of the Forum

[Ingreen99]

Dont know if this has been posted yet


On the HD website

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2007_Motorcycles/2007_Motorcycles.jsp?swfsection=model&swffamily=sp&swfmodel=xl1200n&locale=en_US&swfgallery=dom_video_01

[camsdaddy]

I think it looks great unfortunatly I had to send a link to my paint guy because that is an inverted job of what he had taped off Sun afternoon. I told him to change enough that it didnt look like a replica. It took me four years to decide to paint my bike I figure out what I want and damn if the moto company doesnt release it. I guess I am the sucker they are marketing too unfortunately for them I have no intentions of sinking 10000 but is I did I would have to long and hard

[Ingreen99]

Dont know if this has been posted yet


On the HD website

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2007_Motorcycles/2007_Motorcycles.jsp?swfsection=model&swffamily=sp&swfmodel=xl1200n&locale=en_US&swfgallery=dom_video_01


OOPS! I guess it had... scratch that last :doh

[rokclmb]

The olive pearl denim / black denim colors are awsome. That is one nice looking bike. This would be an even cooler bike if it wasn't so low.

The wheel base, rake and trail are all the same as other 1200 models. The reason it's shorter is because the tail light and fender don't stick out past the rear tire as much.

[xllent01]

Atleast they put the classic peanut tank on it,:banana nothing screams Sportster more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now it just needs foward controls, for us taller riders.:doh

[rokclmb]

I also like the belt guard with the holes in it. It gives it a little sutle(sp?) difference than the rest of the Sportsters.

[Paulie420]

Really nice, pretty sure its just the paint job but the tank almost looks redone a bit too...

I know its probably just paint but does anyone else see the 'difference' there...

I do like it. I do. That being said, its almost like they saw what people have been doing and massed it out.

:D

Cool..

[XL O.C.D.]

OOPS! I guess it had... scratch that last :doh

Don't worry, I'm sure someone will paste in the press release again for a 3rd time, and them someone else will say that the bike looks a lot like some of the bikes on this site. :doh

[skratch]

Atleast they put the classic peanut tank on it,:banana nothing screams Sportster more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now it just needs foward controls, for us taller riders.:doh

well, not exactly. the 'classic peanut tank' is 2.2 gal. this one has the 3.3 gal tank.

i really like the new tank graphics, the belt guard, the chopped front fender, but not so much the rear fender, and the side mount plate just doesn't look quite right, but then, they are limited by dot.

[xllent01]

well, not exactly. the 'classic peanut tank' is 2.2 gal. this one has the 3.3 gal tank.

i really like the new tank graphics, the belt guard, the chopped front fender, but not so much the rear fender, and the side mount plate just doesn't look quite right, but then, they are limited by dot.

Reguardless, 2.2 or 3.3 it's still more classic than the POS 4.5 gallon one.:laugh :shhhh

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

The more I look at it the more like goes to love.

I showed it to Jenn and she loved it instantly.

I was like, "well, if I forget about the XR, we could buy this right away, and get that Ducati you want later this year."

I think she's tempted... but it probably doesn't make any sense at all.

Her 883L fits her perfectly and we have beaucoup accessories that wouldn't transfer over.... doesn't make sense.

And besides we couldn't agree on a color - I'd want black and Mirage Orange and she's split between Black and Olive or Black and Suede Blue...

I actually like em all, but black and orange is just f'n right.

Oh well, I guess it rocks to have choices.

Kev

(ps, we'd have to add a tach and a second disc brake right away though).

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

I like the bike, and would really like to know where the 20lb drop is so that I can get to work.
Some of those parts will be making their way on to my bike.
Specifically, the belt guard, and quite possibly the wheels. I'm guessing those wheels will drop some poundage from my 21 up front and disc in the rear. ?

The seat - tank gap surprises me as it seems HD's a little more 'committed' to the look than is typical from them.

I started to answer this earlier

my guesses

passenger foot pegs - about 5 lbs
tach - 2 lbs
2nd caliper/pads/rotor - 5 lbs
sheet metal (front and rear fenders) - 2 lbs
wheels - 6 lbs

give or take...

[doxbike]

It looks great, but it would have to be taller with mags to get me to buy one.

:dunno :dunno

[spatial.hd]

That's a real nice looking bike. I was starting to get a little jealous until I saw the seat height and clearance. At 6'2" and a having a love for the twisties, I don't think that bike will never be on my wish list. I'll stick with my beloved carburetted Roadster thank you very much. :clap

[Rod]

I like the holes in the belt guard and front fender too :)

Nice bike, but 1000 bucks more than the roadster
that has dual disc front brakes and tachometer?
Do not make sense. Don't like the laced wheels.

Black cast aluminum - light weight will be best.


Anyway, it's a nice bike (Xlforum design :laugh )

[Crusin_w00kie]

I like it so far :p (haters!!)
I'm having trouble viewing the video though??? anyone else??

[XL O.C.D.]

I started to answer this earlier

my guesses

passenger foot pegs - about 5 lbs
tach - 2 lbs
2nd caliper/pads/rotor - 5 lbs
sheet metal (front and rear fenders) - 2 lbs
wheels - 6 lbs

give or take...


20lbs is a decent amount of weight - it sure adds up quick.

[Motorpsykler]

I like it alot, too low for me though.
....waiting for the fork gaitor P/N's!

[sweetearlybronco]

that thing is wicked bad. i will give the wife the 1200r for one of those. i have no problem watching the video, in fact i have watched it about 5 times. dave

[bwheeler111]

I like it so far :p (haters!!)
I'm having trouble viewing the video though??? anyone else??

I think KevM is sucking up all of the HD Website bandwidth watching the video over and over again:laugh

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

20lbs is a decent amount of weight - it sure adds up quick.

I'm just guessing here.

It looks like my optimism will be proven wrong on the XR... I had hoped for much more of a weight savings. But in the aftermath I started weighing take-off parts and realized I was too much of an optimist. Hopefully these latest guesses are better...

[Crusin_w00kie]

that thing is wicked bad. i will give the wife the 1200r for one of those. i have no problem watching the video, in fact i have watched it about 5 times. dave

g'damnit.....for some reason it's not loading for me at all...wtf!!!???!!?!

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

I think KevM is sucking up all of the HD Website bandwidth watching the video over and over again:laugh

I'm not supposed to have it running simultaneously on a 1/2 dozen pcs???? :o

[Scooter_Trash]

20lbs is a decent amount of weight - it sure adds up quick.

Not mention the metal lost from the rear sprocket, belt guard, and front fender mount.

I like it alot, too low for me though.
....waiting for the fork gaitor P/N's!


P/N? You can order it from Lick's, or even better, just get a set of Off Road shock boots from anywhere.

[chrisg]

Nice job Harley. Yeah, I'd still make some changes of course (ride height mainly) but that's my idea of what a Sportster should look like. I like it.
Unfortunately I haven't even gotten my new black rimmed spoke wheels on my bike yet and now the factory even has them:doh . Can't win.

[rottenralph]

I think the front tire is a 110/90/19. That is why it looks big, It is.

The tank is perfect. Essence of a sporty.

[spatial.hd]

The moco sent me an email 15 minutes ago "Introducing the rawest bare-knuckled 1200cc yet."

[ozark]

Go to the main HD web site. Just a picture on the intro page. No other info is posted yet.

Looks like it only has a single disc brake up front and spoked wheels. Interested to see what the other cosmetic chages are.

And the new tank graphics are packed with street cred! LMAO

[Crusin_w00kie]

*smashes keyboard* DAMN YOU CABLE CONNECTION....LET ME VIEW THIS VIDEO!!!!!!!!11!111!!1!:censor :censor :censor :headbang :headbang :headbang

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

Nice job Harley. Yeah, I'd still make some changes of course (ride height mainly) but that's my idea of what a Sportster should look like. I like it.
Unfortunately I haven't even gotten my new black rimmed spoke wheels on my bike yet and now the factory even has them:doh . Can't win.

You know how many times that shyte has happened to me?

Back in 93 I had a set of body work custom painted a nice Aqua - something I hadn't seen on a Harley for decades... in 94 they came out with Aqua.

At the same time I lusted after detachable windshields and bags... nothing for my sporty, but suddenly the RK came out with em.

Back in 96 I decided LEDs would make a great addition to the RK's turn signal stalk as additional running and brake lights ... in 97 they came out with a predrilled/wired turn signal mounting bracket with LEDs.

and so on, and so on...

[crharvel]

I don't quite understand all the bitchin about the ride hight... especially with it coming from people who have spent a $hitload of time and money to get their current bikes to look a lot like this bike does out of the box.

Just pay the :censor $270 for new progressive fork springs + 412's out back people!

Your pegs will thank you and it sounds like a good 80% of you will have the perfect machine with just two upgrades past the tax.

PS... you can add your tachometer down the road when you feel like dropping a couple hundred bucks to watch a needle instead of the road. Kind of like most of us did with our current bikes (ie never).

[chrome]

I think they should have chopped the cam cover too....that might save a little more weight. LOL

[Crusin_w00kie]

all I get when I click on the video is (bottom of screen) "waiting for a1276.g.akamai.net..."

someone wanna help me out before I smash my computer to bits??

[g-ray]

Anyone seen this yet?

http://news.motorcycle.com/article.motml?sid=4593

It's also on the HD site:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/home.jsp?locale=en_US

[Crusin_w00kie]

http://www.xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?threadid=46349

It's been the topic of the day.

Say, can you see the video, cause I can't and don't know why...it's driving me nuts.

[kornflake]

this thing looks good
i cant tell if the wheel base is longer?
i think it is lower than the 1200r
possibly fatter tires
when t went to harley website i could not find the specs.
wander if the suspension is better
my 1200r is to hard in the rear shocks.

looks really good.

[CapMorganXL]

lol g-ray,
I had just read my latest email from HD, gone to the video link for the Nightster, and came on here to post about it, and found you had just barely beat me to it. In my opinion, THAT should have been the 50th anniversary model. Tuff, retro, enough different from the rest of the line to merit special status... HD dropped the ball by making the wrong selection for the 50th as far as I'm concerned. Even though at 6'3" I doubt I'd fit comfortably on it, I have to give the Nightster a huge 2 thumbs up, 5 stars, etc. :clap

[Crusin_w00kie]

lol g-ray,
I had just read my latest email from HD, gone to the video link for the Nightster, and came on here to post about it, and found you had just barely beat me to it. In my opinion, THAT should have been the 50th anniversary model. Tuff, retro, enough different from the rest of the line to merit special status... HD dropped the ball by making the wrong selection for the 50th as far as I'm concerned. Even though at 6'3" I doubt I'd fit comfortably on it, I have to give the Nightster a huge 2 thumbs up, 5 stars, etc. :clap


I WANNA WATCH THE G'D@MN VIDEO TOO!!!!!!! :( :( :( :(

[CapMorganXL]

lol again... I guess g-ray's post was the first ON THAT PAGE... I thought it was the first, period, and when my message came up, there were 5 pages... I didn't think I typed THAT slow.. :doh Nightster= the "real" 50th bike.

[stumsmith]

yup... this thing and a street glide. all a feller needs

[Gone]

The specs are on the site. It's 100% cosmetics with no weight loss or power gains.

[Gone]

lol again... I guess g-ray's post was the first ON THAT PAGE... I thought it was the first, period, and when my message came up, there were 5 pages... I didn't think I typed THAT slow.. :doh Nightster= the "real" 50th bike.

I'd vote for that! Much better than some badges. This thing was all gone over for a completely new look. Yet, it seems more true to the original Sportsters.

[Rod]

The sportster models need:

1) Better brakes (Dam moco, the brakes sucks!)

2) Better suspension (we can do it with progressive)

3) Transmission trap door back (must be reliable, easy to work on it,
without this, looks like a throw away bike... split the case? WTF!)

4) less weight (rubber mount eat in mcdonnals)

5) better engine (1200 models must be the quick and faster HD,
straight from the factory)

--------------

This bike just have less weight, you can do this with
any other sportster model.


The bike looks good, but more money than the Roadster? :rolleyes:

[Weber]

I dig the paint scheme's...other than that, I'll keep my Roadster.
$1000 more money for less of a bike??????WTF?
I'd end up losing the belt guards and front fender anyways.
I'd change the bars and exhaust too, all of which I have done to my 1200R.
The rest is nothing a little paint and powdercoat and a zip cut couldn't fix. :)
It's a cool concept, and I'm sure that it will bring some well deserved public recognition to the Sportster line up, being as that bike (along with the Street Bob) sum up the current "trend" in bikes....as much as you could expect from a factory built bike, anyways.

[Kelley]

Just got an e-mail from HD on the new bike
http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2007_Motorcycles/2007_Motorcycles.jsp?swfsection=model&swffamily=sp&swfmodel=xl1200n&locale=en_US&swfgallery=dom_video_01

What do you think????

[Gone]

The sportster models need:
3) Transmission trap door back (must be reliable, easy to work on it,
without this, looks like a throw away bike... split the case? WTF!)

The bike looks good, but more money than the Roadster? :rolleyes:

Yeah, I'll keep my Roadster.
But, how does having to split cases make them "throw-away" bikes?

[H34TH3N]

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7104/pnwspxl1200ndomc01stww1ou8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[XL O.C.D.]

Yup, we've been talking about it all day.

[Kelley]

Sorry didn't see the other post I will close.

[DC in PHX]

I love fork boots!
DC

[Crusin_w00kie]

http://www.xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?threadid=46349


I'll take mine in any color, BUT baby blue.

[H34TH3N]

Ya well thats in a restricted part of the site so i didnt see it...

[MA1]

Damn, but there's some funny folks 'round here. First its "I wish the MoCo would do this . . .I wish the MoCo would do that . . ."

Then the MoCo up and does this and that, and them funny folks start yellin' "They're stealin' our ideas!"

[Rod]

Yeah, I'll keep my Roadster.
But, how does having to split cases make them "throw-away" bikes?




Transmission problem = Remove the engine, complete disassembly

Not nice, painful job, hours labor, no more six speed from baker...

Take care your transmission.




Anyway, the look of this sportster should be the new sportster standard,
at the same money :)

[MA1]

I think you guys need to read this: http://www.cycleworld.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=272 And yes, the plate does indeed fold flush.

Nice to see who they've got designing bikes these days at HD.

[Kelley]

Over-all a step in the right direction from the MoCo. Commitment from them to continue the XL line and give us another option to play with.

[Crusin_w00kie]

The guy is my age (27) and had a passion for it!!! Good to know it didn't come down from the head office (design us a one of XL that we can charge an arm and a leg for). This guy wanted to build something sick!

[E00i3]

I agree... this is an awesome looking bike.. We can take pride if the MoCo hung out here to do some recon!!! They looked at what we were all doing with our Sportys!!! We could technically say we were the unofficial designers of the Nightster!!!

I love my 03 too much to part ways with it... I have it dialed in to the way I want it minus a few more little upgrades (black-out rims, mini apes, and more black!!)

Anyhow nice addition to the family....

Ride Safe!

[Ernest T Bass]

It dunt leave much ta do ta it, fenda is cut,lisense plate is moved, chain gard is drilled, front fenda is cut, enjine is blak, sure dunt leave much ta do ??
ETB

[Scooter_Trash]

Damn, but there's some funny folks 'round here. First its "I wish the MoCo would do this . . .I wish the MoCo would do that . . ."

Then the MoCo up and does this and that, and them funny folks start yellin' "They're stealin' our ideas!"


:banadanc must of missed that post.

[JohnC88]

There are a lot nicer bobbers here, built my members of the Forum

I can't argue the point. But for those of us mechanically challenged I am blown away by what you can now buy right out of the box. That is one bad a$$ bobber especially in all black.

I honestly think it is more bobber than the Street Bob even though I like the Bob.

[bplinson]

Man.....HD sure has been spending a lot of time on XLF.

Congrats to everyone here. Looks like HD is starting to listen.

[Weber]

I can't argue the point. But for those of us mechanically challenged I am blown away by what you can now buy right out of the box. That is one bad a$$ bobber especially in all black.

I honestly think it is more bobber than the Street Bob even though I like the Bob.

Sorry to ruin your fantasy, but this new bike (Street Bob included) is NOT a bobber. Not even close.

[gronk62]

Straight off the floor this is as close to the perfect Sporty for me as I think I could get!

http://a1264.g.akamai.net/7/1264/734/d99d68d1070291/resource.harley-davidson.com/PR/MOT/2007/images/colors/pnw_spxl1200n_dom_c32_stw_w1024.jpg

NIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!!!!!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/gronk62/smileys/drool.gif

[Parkster]

I think Harley have done their homework and come up with something that will fit the bill for those riders out there who are not too keen on picking up any tools.

I spotted a few design cues from a whole wide web world of custom or personal scoots, and now that the factory has launched it, everybody with a blacked out or chopped fender Sporty will be seen as a copy cat.

I will be drilling my chain guard, cutting some front fender and rear fender, sending the rims and hubs off to be blasted and powder coated before re-fitted with stainless spokes at Alf Hagon and painting those fork legs black along with the rear fender struts, not because HD have released the Nightster, but because it was already part of the plan for my Sporty. I also reckon it will cost a shed load less than the £10k that bike will cost in the UK. £3k for the scoot plus some good old fashioned blood sweat and tears.

I like it, but not enough to spend close on what a Bob would cost.

[petefwa]

Just looked at the factory website and it does'nt say anything about a red hot screamin eagle engine which would make it go as good as it looks. Dunno if I like the sidemount license plate though.

[xllent01]

Thank You H-D for providing a factory production big old Nut Kicking!!!!!!!!:laugh :banana .:clap

[Parkster]

I have just realised that a lot of the posts on this thread are hinting that the design was taken from XLForum.

Cheez folks, come on ....... do you seriously think that this is the only place in the whole world that could possibly have those styling cues on a Sportster, or any other bike for that matter.

The bobbed rear fender has been around since the days of the WLA's, Black rims and hubs have been around for the same amount of time, as have drag bars and blacked out engines, and as for the gaiters and side mount plates.

[jamman]

Straight off the floor this is as close to the perfect Sporty for me as I think I could get!

http://a1264.g.akamai.net/7/1264/734/d99d68d1070291/resource.harley-davidson.com/PR/MOT/2007/images/colors/pnw_spxl1200n_dom_c32_stw_w1024.jpg

NIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!!!!!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/gronk62/smileys/drool.gif

Those colors look great on the 07 St. Bob.. pretty cool. needs some chrome. Cause thats what I like and don't give a rats behind what you like.. Fine sporty..

[lagerdrinker]

wtf???
that bike just looks badass. small bit of styling goes a long way. i like it alot.

[Preacher]

Pretty cool looking....I like that 19" front tire......HD has definately been look at this forum.....Put a baby head on the back of that thing and it would look like Preacher's bike.

It's a hard thing to be a trend setter, but someone had to do it. :doh

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

Cool link, thanks

[designeraccd]

Or whatever that blACKed out, ultra low saddle (only vertically challenged need apply?) parts bin special is called; my question is why? Was it pure economics that launched that (minimal tool $$) instead of a hotter, lighter (?) XR1200 like we saw a few months back? One thing for sure, my '04 1200R with all its mods is in no danger of losing its parking spot in my "Toy Room".

All show and minimal go strikes again....disappointing. DFO:(

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

I don't quite understand all the bitchin about the ride hight... especially with it coming from people who have spent a $hitload of time and money to get their current bikes to look a lot like this bike does out of the box.

Just pay the :censor $270 for new progressive fork springs + 412's out back people!

Your pegs will thank you and it sounds like a good 80% of you will have the perfect machine with just two upgrades past the tax.

PS... you can add your tachometer down the road when you feel like dropping a couple hundred bucks to watch a needle instead of the road. Kind of like most of us did with our current bikes (ie never).

But I'd also need to add the Tach - $300 and the second dual disc $300 so now we're talking at least another $1k for a bike that already cost $1k more than a 1200R... :censor

Still... hmmmmmmmmmmm

Damn, where are those $1k of free accessory coupons when I need one.... :laugh

[SportsterBart]

Great link. Thanks man.

He even was thinking of putting a kicker on it. Now that would have been cool.


B

[crackers]

I will be drilling my chain guard, cutting some front fender and rear fender, sending the rims and hubs off to be blasted and powder coated before re-fitted with stainless spokes at Alf Hagon and painting those fork legs black along with the rear fender struts, not because HD have released the Nightster, but because it was already part of the plan for my Sporty.

i too have similar plans
already have the lowers painted black, and was considering the fork gaiters.
i was going to drill the chain guard this weekend and take some off the back (so its just still legal in Oz)
drilling the front guards is consideration now i've seen it
always wanted black laced rims, vertical side mount license plate & bobbed rear fender.
hopefully it wont consider us copycats following the factory trend

I have just realised that a lot of the posts on this thread are hinting that the design was taken from XLForum.

Cheez folks, come on ....... do you seriously think that this is the only place in the whole world that could possibly have those styling cues on a Sportster, or any other bike for that matter.

agreed

cheers
crackers

[lagerdrinker]

Or whatever that blACKed out, ultra low saddle (only vertically challenged need apply?) parts bin special is called; my question is why? Was it pure economics that launched that (minimal tool $$) instead of a hotter, lighter (?) XR1200 like we saw a few months back? One thing for sure, my '04 1200R with all its mods is in no danger of losing its parking spot in my "Toy Room".

All show and minimal go strikes again....disappointing. DFO:(
i think your missing the point. its about choices. a factory rat chop as i see it .

[SportsterBart]

i think your missing the point. its about choices. a factory rat chop as i see it .

I agree 100%. Well said.

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

lol g-ray,
I had just read my latest email from HD, gone to the video link for the Nightster, and came on here to post about it, and found you had just barely beat me to it. In my opinion, THAT should have been the 50th anniversary model. Tuff, retro, enough different from the rest of the line to merit special status... HD dropped the ball by making the wrong selection for the 50th as far as I'm concerned. Even though at 6'3" I doubt I'd fit comfortably on it, I have to give the Nightster a huge 2 thumbs up, 5 stars, etc. :clap

I'm not gonna say dropped the ball, cause it was what it was, and besides, the Anni model is limited production, why make something THIS cool limited ;)

But I do agree THIS is MUCH more what I wanted in an Anni model, closer to the roots of the Sporty.

Damn, but there's some funny folks 'round here. First its "I wish the MoCo would do this . . .I wish the MoCo would do that . . ."

Then the MoCo up and does this and that, and them funny folks start yellin' "They're stealin' our ideas!"

Dude, you could give em a chopped, blacked out, dual disc'd. hidden instrument, 90 in. Sporty with a 6-speed and a trap door and SOMEONE is gonna find fault with it.

Probably even me too... there are just too damn many of us and we all have different tastes.

It's still funny, but I get it.


I have just realised that a lot of the posts on this thread are hinting that the design was taken from XLForum.

Cheez folks, come on ....... do you seriously think that this is the only place in the whole world that could possibly have those styling cues on a Sportster, or any other bike for that matter.
The bobbed rear fender has been around since the days of the WLA's, Black rims and hubs have been around for the same amount of time, as have drag bars and blacked out engines, and as for the gaiters and side mount plates.

LOL on this too. Though I agree, the nice thing to see is that Harley is really listening to their customers. It's obvious they realized this is just the sort of thing that their customers want! Kudos for that.

Kev

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

It's a hard thing to be a trend setter, but someone had to do it. :doh

LOL

What,

Black fork lowers, Black laced rims, Black mirrors, signals and accents...

wait they copied my Goose too... ;) :shhhh :doh

http://www.gigabikes.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10081/IMG_7267b.jpg

[xtheunknown]

I dunno but I think matching sidecovers look like poo on a sporty.

Maybe I'm in the minority and they like selling em for extra $$$

or maybe I'm in the majority.

I haven't paid attention to the Denim black though...maybe the Demin with the vivid does suck in person, I'll try to remember to look for that...
Speaking of side covers...I have always hated the way the side covers look on my '06 1200C. I like the way its done on this bike (http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showpost.php?p=620000&postcount=82). Any idea if this can be retrofitted to an '06?

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

Speaking of side covers...I have always hated the way the side covers look on my '06 1200C. I like the way its done on this bike (http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showpost.php?p=620000&postcount=82). Any idea if this can be retrofitted to an '06?

:doh

You mean you liked the metal oil tank and the exposed battery bracket with the chrome accessory cover over it that was used for decades?

Uhhh, no, it cannot be done without fabrication...

[sportypete]

How much do you think it would cost to re-engineer the Sportster for a kick starter ? I do like the Nightster - I like it better than the other Rubbermounts - Pete

[t.c. Johnson]

VERY COOL.

How come I gotta read about it in "Cycle World"?

[snowman]

Very cool read!!
Thanks for the link, it sort of let's it all out now....:banana

[Jason's Sporty]

wow cycle(rice world) actually put a article on a Harley in their magazine.

[83XLX]

Everything old is new again. '84 XLX - bare bones machine in black with matte cases, black exhaust, black handlebars, speedo only, solo seat, small front fender, etc.........

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/rotcorp52/84XLX.jpg

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

Everything old is new again. '84 XLX - bare bones machine in black with matte cases, black exhaust, black pipes, etc.........

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/rotcorp52/84XLX.jpg

:clap :clap :clap

[Ranger Bob]

<-Snipped-> I guess its cool the MOCO is following what so many of us have already done, but I feel like like they took our thunder. <-Snip-> I think its too much of a rip off of what so many people put hours and hours into around here. <-Snip->

Couldn't have said it better myself. Sure, they may have taken tips from the many fine bike photos and suggestions posted here. So what? Seems like they just might listen.

Sometimes you gotta be careful about what you ask for... you just might get it.

I noticed something that seems outright tacky to me, though. Those stoopid silver case bolts/hex thingies on the black casings. What style school did their designers go to.

MAKE THOSE BOLTS BLACK TO MATCH THE STYLE . They cheapen the look and distract from the aesthetics.

Regards,
Bob G
who never went to design school :D

[el jeffe]

There's only so many ways to bob a fender..
Not my cup of tea, but should be very popular. THey almost nailed it. Needs a spring saddle, small sissy bar, forward controls and short apes. The holes in the beltguard are a nice touch, but really how much weight reduction is that?? 4 grams?
I can't wait to see some dude put a windshield and luggage on one!! HA!
MY idea of a badass sporty is either a stripped down XR750 racer or hardtail kickstart bobber.

btw...I too will be attending the International Motorcycle show this weekend with the Canon...

[drd1135]

This is such an HD thing to do. Modify an existing model in a way that makes it look really different (and very cool). They'll probably make a bunch of money for very little investment. If only our government was this smart :doh

It is a very nice looking bike. I have little doubt that they troll through all of these forums to see what's popular. Again, just smart business on their part.

[ed_in_az]

I'm actually glad HD didn't have this machine available when I was shopping. I'd have spent more money and had a machine that would NOT look good setup for 2up riding. It looks way too good as it is. I have to struggle to click away from the pictures.:o

The 1200N is the 2nd radical new Sportster model from HD. So Europe gets the XR1200 first, the USA gets the 1200N NOW. Of course the new models won't appeal to all Sportster fans but they are bold new designs from the MoCo and I applaud them.
:clap

[Hanoverfiste]

i just opened this email from HD, Very Nice looking bike...

[SixFingerJack]

I just found this
http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2007_Motorcycles/2007_Motorcycles.jsp?locale=en_US&swfsection=model&swffamily=sp&swfmodel=xl1200n&swfgallery=dom_video_01
Looks way cool, what you guys think?

[Scooter_Trash]

the Anni model is limited production, why make something THIS cool limited ;)
Kev

Another quote from the guy at the roll out:

"shipment begins on this in feb (and will continue for the rest of the 07 model year till june)and this is NOT a "limited" deal...a full production unit that will also be a part of the 2008 product line. SO....DO NOT LET YOUR LOCAL DEALER (OR "STEALERSHIP") CHARGE YOU TOO MUCH OR TRY TO PULL SOME LIMITED PRODUCTION BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!"

[CaptEvo]

I have just realised that a lot of the posts on this thread are hinting that the design was taken from XLForum.

Cheez folks, come on ....... do you seriously think that this is the only place in the whole world that could possibly have those styling cues on a Sportster, or any other bike for that matter.

The bobbed rear fender has been around since the days of the WLA's, Black rims and hubs have been around for the same amount of time, as have drag bars and blacked out engines, and as for the gaiters and side mount plates.


You mean there are other Sportster related forums besides the XLForum????????:shhhh

[loki03xlh]

I'm actually glad HD didn't have this machine available when I was shopping.


I agree. Otherwise I would of bought this and tried to make it comfortable for touring/two up riding.
It is one bad ass looking bike, just wouldn't work for me.

I'm glad the moco is paying attention to what riders are doing and responding, just like in the 70's when willie g noticed what bikers were doing to their hogs, and the moco comes up with the superglide.

I'd like to see a cvo/100 hp version :smoke

[Moved On / My Own Choice]

Another quote from the guy at the roll out:

"shipment begins on this in feb (and will continue for the rest of the 07 model year till june)and this is NOT a "limited" deal...a full production unit that will also be a part of the 2008 product line. SO....DO NOT LET YOUR LOCAL DEALER (OR "STEALERSHIP") CHARGE YOU TOO MUCH OR TRY TO PULL SOME LIMITED PRODUCTION BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!"

No, I knew that, I was responding to the post where someone said THIS should have been the 50th Anniversary model, and I was saying that although I agree the 50 Anni should have been styled more like this, I'm GLAD this one ISN'T limited... :geek

[Crusin_w00kie]

I'm GLAD this one ISN'T limited... :geek

Otherwise the dealers will still try to.....wait..wtf am I saying, they're gonna try to jack the price on these anyways!!!


Anyways, seems Corbin has a replacement for the stock saddle using thier Hollywood solo. Looks like it'll flow with the bikes lines pretty well. Bet it has to be better than the stock MoCo saddle though.

[obinella]

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptEvo
Pretty cool looking....I like that 19" front tire......HD has definately been look at this forum.....Put a baby head on the back of that thing and it would look like Preacher's bike.

That was one of my first thoughts also. Seems like a few of the quad cam bastards are getting there ideas stolen from HD?

alright preacher come on out and tell us. how much have you been selling your ideas to harley for?
__________________
some of you guys need visine. the gators are about the only thing the same as preach's scoot. preach's still looks better , hands down.

[DRAWTOOL]

I be likin' it, mostly, don't like side mount license plate (off balance) but then I don't like license plate mounts, don't like license plates. I would want forward controls but that's just me... and a tach. And maybe black pipes and or mufflers, have to see. Gonna put black slip-ons on when I do Stage 1 on my 883c, then i'll know you betcha.

Mike

[whittenc]

I actually like the side-mount license plate, only it would be better turned vertical. Anybody have access to the part #?

[Gone]

Detroit flails away with 8 of 10 models lackluster and dropping customer interest. Their board members need to pay H-D $100,000 per person, and all spend a full month at H-D seeing what it takes to produce factory passion that swoons customers to the dealers - with checkbook in hand. Mechanically, there is nothing different about the Nightster. A bit of cosmetic juggling and they have what "appears" to be an all new machine. H-D hits another home run and their annual financial report WILL verify it. Their are four main things that sell vehicles at a fast pace: Price, quality, performance, appearance. H-D has become a master at appearance (customer draw) and quality (customer growth). And their price and performance is not terribly bad to attain the first two = $sales$.

[Rod]

I actually like the side-mount license plate, only it would be better turned vertical.


I second that.

The other wrong thing in this bike is the price.

[DustyJacket]

I actually like the side-mount license plate, only it would be better turned vertical.....

Which would make it illegal in some states. Remember, H-D has to build to make them legal in all 50 states, and some require the license plate be oriented a certain way. Not sure how often is is enforce, but it could be just another reason to be stopped.

[CosmicHD]

I like the 1200N. It looks sharp. There are definitely some parts on it I'd like to put on my R.

But at 6'2" I like the seat height of my R. So I do not know if I'd be able to ride it. I did not like the L when compared to my R.

So, I'll be sticking with my R.

The only thing that might make me seriously consider trading in my R is a Screaming Eagle Sportser.

[bassboy311]

I LOVE the 1200N. But there are two reasons I haven't put a down payment on one yet. Over the last two years I have put so much passion and money into my 883 that Its not worth trading it in on a bike that looks almost exactly like it. The other reason is that I talked to some of the salemen at the dealership about it yesterday. They said that the MoCo is going to up the Sportsters to a 180 or 200 tire in the next year or so. I would DEFINATELY buy a "Nightster" if it had a 200 tire from the factory.
Regardless, I love the 1200N. Good job MoCo.

[Crusin_w00kie]

The other reason is that I talked to some of the salemen at the dealership about it yesterday. They said that the MoCo is going to up the Sportsters to a 180 or 200 tire in the next year or so.

HAHAHAHAA, 2007 model year....YOU are now the bastard child along with 2004, 2005 and 2006.lol

[Rascal]

From the looks, I like all of it except the rubber boots on the forks.

[Buster brown]

But I want an uumpa luumpa NOW !

[xllent01]

From the looks, I like all of it except the rubber boots on the forks.


Yep, like a flashback to the 70's show:roflblack nothing a good razor knife won't take care of.:laugh