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FourCams
29th March 2009, 04:18
If you were planning to go you might want to change your plans. :(

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SNOHOMISH -- The city of Snohomish called a motorcycle group's decision to cancel a popular show "an unfortunate overreaction," but the city is ready and willing to work with them if they change their minds.
The group canceled the Old Snohomish Antique & Classic Motorcycle Show over a dispute about how much the city should charge to police the event.
Members of the Sky Valley chapter of the American Bikers Aimed Towards Education said they can't pay $30,360 for 44 police officers the city says are needed to staff the event. The group paid about $5,000 last year to police the event, which drew about 22,000 people to the city.
The city wants more officers to staff motorcycle events because of the threat of gang violence, Snohomish city police chief John Turner said.
In a press release Friday, Turner said he was surprised by the group's decision.
"The decision on the part of ABATE is an unfortunate over-reaction on the part of ABATE," he said. "The police department staff has been busy planning security for the show. We've already had several meetings."
Members of the motorcycle group said they would only consider returning to Snohomish if they city treats them the same as it does every other group.
No other event in the city is being required to have more than two officers present, including a car show that drew between 10,000 and 15,000 people last year.
"I don't know why they're surprised we're canceling our show when they are charging us $30,000 instead of $5,000," Rod Hobelman, an organizer, said. "What do they expect us to do?"
The group considered moving the show to Sultan, but decided they didn't have enough time to regroup before the May event. He said the group didn't learn about the fees until January, after forms and brochures had already been sent to the printer. They're planning to hold the 2010 show elsewhere.
The police chief said the city is responsible to protect public safety. Both the chief and show organizers acknowledge there have been no criminal problems in the 12 years the show has happened in Snohomish. Both also agree that the event typically draws several hundred outlaw bikers, known as 1-percenters, who can be from rival gangs.
That biker gangs are occasionally "in violent conflict requires a much higher degree of police presence to ensure a safe event," Turner said.
The decision to increase the price for police service is about economics, he said. Seventy officers patrolled last year's show. Those services would have cost $30,000 but other agencies offered to help for free. This year, the Snohomish County Sheriff's Office and other agencies told the city they can no longer afford to offer free help.
Turner said he offered to cut the number of officers from 70 to 44 and suggested ways the group could raise more money to pay for security, such as charging admission.
The city is laying off employees and can't donate public funds to support a private organization, city manager Larry Bauman said.
"We are really disappointed," said James Blowers, one of the event organizers. "We think we contribute to the community, we don't think we take away."
Downtown business owners struggling to keep doors open in tough economic times are unhappy about losing the show.
"I wanted to pack up and leave this town," Chuck Gibbs, owner of Chuck's Seafood Grotto said. "It's hard enough to make a dollar in this town."
Meanwhile, other area cities are eyeballing the motorcycle show and the dollars it could bring.
Everett City Councilman Ron Gibson plans to meet with the show's organizers next week to talk about bringing the show to Everett.
Gibson runs a barbecue concession business and has worked the motorcycle show in the past.
"I can see the dollars it would bring into the community," he said. "The people there haven't demonstrated any violence or gang activity that I've seen and I've seen a lot of it."
The show has a potential to be a big money maker.
He planned to bring the issue to the Everett City Council and city administration.
"There are so many vacant store fronts, we need to do what it takes to keep those doors open," he said.

<source> (http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090221/NEWS01/702219880)

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The bike show part of the event might happen in Sulton on July 12.

CaptBligh
29th March 2009, 04:28
Truly a sad thing. But when they try to pull what they are doing by raing the fee that much Sno Co should f off. My guess is since I don't keep up with the Herald. Olympia has a couple small ones but I enjoyed the Sno show. Oysterfest will come soon enough too.

Curbfeeler
29th March 2009, 04:42
That's too bad.
Snohomish politicians been watching Gangland on TV?:rolleyes:

FourCams
29th March 2009, 22:20
That's too bad.
Snohomish politicians been watching Gangland on TV?:rolleyes:

I guess. :dunno

mjbogrand
3rd April 2009, 18:04
This was the sno co meeting

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff94/mjbogrand/98%20EVO%20SPORTY/1722467976_671247477c.jpg?t=1238778197

"No we are kitties,not pu.....":frownthre

NRHS Sales
3rd April 2009, 18:16
I hope the city council and police dept are real proud of themselves. they not only lost city revenue but also hurt their local businesses. Frickin geniuses at work obviously and heads should roll IMO at the next election.

I love how the city tries to blame the show organizers and they don't seem to feel they have any fault in the matter!!

mes
3rd April 2009, 18:41
Truly a sad thing. But when they try to pull what they are doing by raing the fee that much Sno Co should f off. My guess is since I don't keep up with the Herald. Olympia has a couple small ones but I enjoyed the Sno show. Oysterfest will come soon enough too.yea man. oysters and lots of them. shuck them, suck them and eat them raw then wash it down with some good beer:clap:smoke

FourCams
3rd April 2009, 19:36
I hope the city council and police dept are real proud of themselves. they not only lost city revenue but also hurt their local businesses. Frickin geniuses at work obviously and heads should roll IMO at the next election.

I love how the city tries to blame the show organizers and they don't seem to feel they have any fault in the matter!!

Exactly!. They will reduce the number of people there but there's still gonna be a lot of people who regularly attend this event who will not be aware that it was cancled. There will also be many people who ride there for the other activities. And now there will be less police there. IMO it was a really stupid move. All they're doing is hurting their local economy while at the same time increasing the risk to local residents and tourists. Really, really bad move.
This has always been a peaceful event. It's a shame to see it ruined by politicians.
I hope that we don't see this happen at other local events.

trosga1
18th April 2009, 18:16
Saw a brief article on line that there may be a pared down show as part of the City of Sultan's Shin Dig festival the weekend of July 12. Can't find anything in detail and it may be inaccurate. http://www.northwestcyclereport.com/2009/04/09/displaced-motorcycle-show-moves-to-sultan/

CaptBligh
18th April 2009, 18:50
Someone will pick this up, there is too much revenue involved. It is sad though that the greedy puks in Sno Co. placed such a high increase in fee making it impossible for the event organizers to keep it where it started.

mjbogrand
19th April 2009, 03:18
Hey with the economy the way it is,I'd take anybodies dollars for my community.

trosga1
21st April 2009, 19:12
:tour ABATE of Washington's website http://www.abate-wa.org/ABATE_EVENTS/ABATE/July_Events.html is confirming that the bike show (scaled down) will be held Sunday July 12th in Sultan as part of Sultan's annual Shindig and logging show. It's a real nice ride out to Sultan along Highway 2, just watch out for the folks not paying attention to the lane their in.

hmiller
21st April 2009, 19:47
I'd be willing to bet the cop union had something to do with this too. With construction being slow and not getting any road work the cops are looking for overtime. So don't be shy flipping them off with the town officials.

bud095
21st April 2009, 20:04
I'd be willing to bet the cop union had something to do with this too. With construction being slow and not getting any road work the cops are looking for overtime. So don't be shy flipping them off with the town officials.you could be right!

Fat Tony
22nd April 2009, 05:54
After what Snohomish County is pulling I wouldn't go to this if you paid me. After years of no problems (and I guarantee that there were 1%ers in attendance every year) they think it's appropriate to charge six times what they previously did for police? With the economy is in the shitter, you'd think more revenue for local businesses would be welcome.

Johnzee1
22nd April 2009, 06:53
hi,

Makes you wonder. What they not telling us. Was there a threat from a gang toward the city? are they just overpricing the abate to keep them out of snohomish?

I hope it dont go to Sultan. Granite falls would be great. Woods Creek Road is a really great ride. I like that road.

Too bad but its great for me I commute thru downtown snohomish.

Z