I have been on this site for awhile now and have mainly lurked and gathered info. I have been planning on building a LS bike now for about 3-4 months and have just been doing research and waiting for the right deal to come along. I have also been speaking with Dan at NHRS now for a few months and he has been helping me out with the motor and how it is going to be built. NHRS will be doing my heads, pistons, and cyclinders to start and I will be buying other parts from them as Dan has gone above and beyond for me in the info department.

I will be assisting a friend in the building of the special construction chassis and Airtech which is local company in my area will be doing the bodywork. I will be building the motor with lots of input from NHRS and the info on this forum and others I visit.

Yesterday the right deal came up and I will now be under way.

I look forward to your comments and input.

Scott


Picked up this 98' s3 with t-heads for a $1000. I will use the wheels, swingarm, frontend and drivetrain from the bike and most of the rest of the parts will go on ebay.
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Any seen my ball of foil??
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This pushrod looks slightly bent
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All the spare parts
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Holey Crap, looks like you got a project there. I'm interested in your progress, keep us posted. This could be good.

Looks great but your tank has some kind of bubonic plague...LOL

Great idea,What were they cooking hotdogs with the motor?Keep us all posted.

Looks great but your tank has some kind of bubonic plague...LOL

I will sand blast the tank and sell it........I guess the previous owner paitned it and when it got left outside in the sun it bubbled up like that.

Scott

A lot of those Buell tanks did that. The material they made the tanks out of allowed fumes to come through and it bubbled the paint, on almost every one I've seen. They changed materials or started coating the tank with something before they painted them, I'm not really sure, but they stopped doing that after while. Just search http://www.badweatherbikers.com/ for "bubbled fuel tank".

Of course, the XBs keep the fuel in the frame so they don't need to worry about that any more. And you are not going to use the tank, so it doesn't really matter anyway.

--Chris

That exhaust is called a KT exhaust and is worth quite a bit of money as they are no longer made and Buell guys absoluetely love that pipe. Very good score!!

We can fix that head quite easily by the way.

The class Scott plans to run his bike in is also a class we run in oursleves. We love healthy competition and welcome him into Salt Addicts anonymous! :)

A lot of those Buell tanks did that. The material they made the tanks out of allowed fumes to come through and it bubbled the paint, on almost every one I've seen. They changed materials or started coating the tank with something before they painted them, I'm not really sure, but they stopped doing that after while. Just search for "bubbled fuel tank".

Of course, the XBs keep the fuel in the frame so they don't need to worry about that any more. And you are not going to use the tank, so it doesn't really matter anyway.

--Chris

This tank bubbled because of poor preparation. The previous owner painted it himself and from the looks of he did not know what he was doing and did none to minimal prep work.

I am a new painter within the last few years and have had to learn the hard way more than once. I now take as much time as needed prior to spraying my base coat and clear coat.

Here is the last paint job I did on the chopper I built.

Scott

We can fix that head quite easily by the way.

The class Scott plans to run his bike in is also a class we run in oursleves. We love healthy competition and welcome him into Salt Addicts anonymous! :)

Dan I sandblasted the head today to get a better visual of the damage. I will take a close up and post it later.

Please tell me more about this KT exhaust and it's value?? Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't see it helping on the LS bike. I was going to build a custom exhaust that is as free flowing as possible with your input of course.

You guys are going to run in the APS-PG 1350 and APS-PF 1350 class this year??

Nice job on the chop. I'm gonna' be followin' this thread all the way to bonneville......:banana:banana:banana

Nice job on the chop. I'm gonna' be followin' this thread all the way to bonneville......:banana:banana:banana


I see you have a Geezer Glide as well! By far one of my favorite bikes to this date.

Scott

No real big update as it has been a busy weekend with the holiday. Since the last pictures I have sandblasted the head and it looks alot better than I originally thought. There is a broken valve guide and one of the valves is bent, however all of this will be re-built by Dan and the crew at NHRS. I am hoping to have the bike apart next week so I can get going on the chassis. There is alot of up and down play in the front rod, I am hoping the play is in the rod itself and not the crank.

Scott

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Looks like a former Club chopper, chopper of the month! Good to have you here. As far as the KT pipe I can tell you I bought one new in 98 for 400.00 buck and I'd spend that much for a good used one now!

Looks like a former Club chopper, chopper of the month! Good to have you here. As far as the KT pipe I can tell you I bought one new in 98 for 400.00 buck and I'd spend that much for a good used one now!

Thanks for the welcome! This picture look familiar??

If you are interested in the pipe let me know.

Scott

http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41032

Spent some time today pulling the motor. Friday will be the start of drawing up the plans to build the chassis and hopefully start building the following week.

Here is how I got the motor out of the existing frame.
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Notice the size of the piston on the left and what is left of the one on the right..........
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My stopping point for the day
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The pile of for sale parts is building.
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I pretty much finished up with the disassembly of the Buell this evening with the exception of the swingarm. I will remove the swingarm this weekend as well as the cams from the motor I scored last weekend. The cams and the heads are off to NRHS first thing Monday for the headwork and I believe the cams are going to Redline as a core in exchange for the new cams.

Hoping to finish the chassis design this week, we will see.


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Anyone have any info on the aerodynamics of a RR1200?

thanks
Scott

Met with Randy at MDR this afternoon and discussed my chassis design. We should start building the chassis very soon.

Scott

Today I pulled the cams out of both motors, I wanted to see the difference in the lobes from the stock Sportster vs the Buell and the stock sportster cams are off to NRHS to be sent to Redshift for there make over into the 643's. My heads are going to NRHS for a make over as well.

I also finished completely with the disassembly of the donor bike. If I have time tomorrow I will try and tear down the motor completely and split the cases so I can access what other damage may of happen and also to have a motor to use during the fabrication of the frame.

If anyone is in need of parts let me know as I will sell them on the forums I visit first and then move on to ebay and craigslist. Just about everything will be for sell with the exception of the the wheels, frontend, and motor. I may sell the frame later after I am done building. If you need a part just ask I may have it........

Scott

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The cam on the left is the stock sportster and on the right the Buell.
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I spent some time after work last night on the motor. I was able to get the cases split and see if there was any damage to the cases. At this point I believe the cases are fine and that the rods are definatley screwed and I am not sure about the crank. I will press the crank out of the case this weekend to check and see what kind of shape it is in.

No worries on the crank or the rods as I am buying a set of Carrillo rods and I have another crank in another motor I can use.

Heads are currently at NRHS and should be back in about three weeks, pistons and cylinders are on order and the cams are being sent to Redshift via NHRS.

Scott


Tranny internals look good
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I think it is save to say that the piston is slightly chewed up!
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Got the crank pressed out tonight and the failure is pretty obvious from the pictures...........

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When did they start make rods with ovals??

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I think the crank pin got a little warm......

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Great pics, and Nice Garage.. I keyed in on your buffing wheel...

Didja make it yourself?

Great pics, and Nice Garage.. I keyed in on your buffing wheel...

Didja make it yourself?

No, I bought it from a friend for $40. It is getting close to needing a rebuild, however it does work great.

Scott

All of these parts came off of a 98' Buell S3, make me a reasonable offer on anything you are interested in and we can work something out.

Scott

1200 Cylinders

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This is the front cylinder that lost a piston

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KT Exhaust

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Front fairing

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Sand blasted due to paint bubbling

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Front Fender

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Pulley cover

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Rear hugger and belt gaurd

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Cracked

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Seat

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Tail section

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Cracked

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Belt

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Shock and resevoir, needs new line from res to shock

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oil tank

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wire harness

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Mirrors w/internal blinkers. Mirrors silicone to back plate

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Front brake rotor and rebuild kit, coil, right side mirror

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Brake light and front motor mount

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Front brake caliper and ignition

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I would love to put those pipes on my Sporty (It sits high enough now!!) but I am thinking, by the posts I have seen, that they are out of my range for now.

My birthday's coming up though... LOL :banana

I would love to put those pipes on my Sporty (It sits high enough now!!) but I am thinking, by the posts I have seen, that they are out of my range for now.

My birthday's coming up though... LOL :banana

I have thought of just keeping them and putting them on a bobber I am going to build for the wife when I am done with this build. However, I must concentrate on build at a time.

Scott

I have thought of just keeping them and putting them on a bobber I am going to build for the wife when I am done with this build. However, I must concentrate on build at a time.

Scott

Everyone seems to be excited about them, it might be worth hanging on to.

I am just thinking about a traditional Buell exhaust on my bobber sporty and someone pointed me to your thread.

I have a mad-max cafe thing going and it sits high enough that I should be able to shoehorn the exhaust under the belly like a Buell. That's the idea anway!

Everyone seems to be excited about them, it might be worth hanging on to.

I am just thinking about a traditional Buell exhaust on my bobber sporty and someone pointed me to your thread.

I have a mad-max cafe thing going and it sits high enough that I should be able to shoehorn the exhaust under the belly like a Buell. That's the idea anway!


Well if you are interested, make an offer as I have pictures and could always build something similar. Besides at this point I am going to need as much cash as possible as I will soon own stock with NRHS even with there great prices, the price of the motor build alone is going to cost me a few pennies.

I am looking for a header pipe on the cheap. I'm talking in the $100 - $150 range. I can't spend $400 on it right now and it sounds like you can get a lot more than I am willing to pay!

I am looking for a header pipe on the cheap. I'm talking in the $100 - $150 range. I can't spend $400 on it right now and it sounds like you can get a lot more than I am willing to pay!

What have you heard they are worth Preacher?

Scott

Streetfighter1 and NHRS above said they can sell up into the $400 range. I don't know jack about them or about Buell exhaust in general, so you would have to ask one of them for more info.

This tank bubbled because of poor preparation. The previous owner painted it himself and from the looks of he did not know what he was doing and did none to minimal prep work.

I am a new painter within the last few years and have had to learn the hard way more than once. I now take as much time as needed prior to spraying my base coat and clear coat.

Here is the last paint job I did on the chopper I built.

Scott

I love your LSR project, but this bike is just plain awesome. I don't care for the exhaust, but the rest of the bike is amazing. Very nice paint, too, btw.

I love your LSR project, but this bike is just plain awesome. I don't care for the exhaust, but the rest of the bike is amazing. Very nice paint, too, btw.


Send me your email address and if you would like I will send you some pics that were taken for the feature in Chopper Build magazine from last year. Thanks for the compliment on the bike, that was my first paint job.

Scott

Big job, good luck with the build

My Dyna (2ki) ignition came in yesterday and I am still waiting on a bunch of parts for the motor to arrive. Most parts are being custom made so I am still weeks out on alot of the parts. Ordered my rods today from Carrillo to the tune of $712 shipped to my door. They will be here tomorrow at which point I can order my crank pin and bearings.

I also decided that this year I am going to hold off on building a ground up chassis. Instead I have ordered a frame from Paughco after some good advice from a well known local land speed racer. The frame will be modded as necessary. Going this route will allow me to race this year in July at El Mirage prior to going to the Bub meet in September.

Also have been selling lots of parts off of the donor parts. if you need a part please ask I may want to sell.

Scott

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Carrillo rods came in today! Man, these rods are really nice, you can really see the quality.

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The old vs the new
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Scott do spend to much money out the With and Dan the guys at NRHS you know I wish I would have found XL/Buells and NRHS a long time ago I could have Save a bunch of Cash and stop building BT bikes.

Scott do spend to much money out the With and Dan the guys at NRHS you know I wish I would have found XL/Buells and NRHS a long time ago I could have Save a bunch of Cash and stop building BT bikes.

I am spending quite a bit with them. It is worth it as Dan has taken more of my phone calls asking stupid question that I can count on all of my fingers and toes.

Scott

Well this place it a little more laid back than CC as well but I have learned a Lot about make these little motors make some Horsies. Dan and NRHS are a bunch of great people I have my heads and stuff on the way to to the For a look over and a little twicking.

My frame came in last week and I had to go out of town for the week. I took the day off today and Friday for a four day weekend and in hope that I could get some work done on the bike.

I started to pound in the neck cups with a 4x4 and a hammer and realized that it was much more work than I felt like doing so I pressed them in with my 20 ton press I bought a few months ago...........man am I glad I bought that press.
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Put the rear wheel on after some clearancing to the axle blocks to fit my stock Buell axle. The brake rotor is going to have to ride real close to the frame if I can make this wheel work.
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Axle is going to need to be cut rewelded and pinned.........also I need to buy a sprocket and see if the chain will clear the frame........it is going to be real close.
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Rear wheel on temporarily.......
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A rolling chassis
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I thru my spare motor in just to see how it would look.....
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Hey Scott, looks like the bike is commimng along nicely! I really like the way it sits.
Question, Who made the frame and what are the specs for it.

Hey Scott, looks like the bike is commimng along nicely! I really like the way it sits.
Question, Who made the frame and what are the specs for it.

It is a Paughco frame I had made with the bigger neck and 35 degrees of rake with no stretch.

Scott

Update:

I bought a set of clip-ons from Kent Riches that I think will work out pretty well. All of the parts for the motor arrived last week and almost all of the machine work on the case is done with the exception of the upgrade to the anti-rotation pins for the lifters that I will do next week some time.

The motor is going to Bob Moreland in a few weeks to have the line-boring and balancing done.

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[/IMG] I had doneStage 3 headwork which includes NRHS Hurricane valvetrain components: bronze manganese guides, high flow stainless valves, chrome silicone springs, and special radius titanium retainers. The valve sizes on my is a 1.940" intake and 1.615" exhaust valves. A 30 degree squish badn was cut along with dual plugging of the heads and .700 lift springs.

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S&S Roller Rockers
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Here are the pistons from that we ahd made from CP.

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Jims Hydrosolid lifters
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Jims 3 hole crank pin
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S&S Super D and the 4' airhorn
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New clutch and pressure plates

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S&S intake
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Hi-flow oil pump
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Axtell cylinders
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Adjustable push rods, new high strength, crank pins, push rod tubes and misc bearings.
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Here are the new Redshifts Cams
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The camchest was clearanced to fit the bigs cams
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Cases have been bored to fit the oversized cylinders
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I had a few things happen in my favor this week and it looks like I will be attending the World of Speed event in Bonneville in August so it looks like I need to kick this build into high gear.

I spent most of today at MDR turning down my rear wheel hub so I would have enough clearance inbetween the frame and the sprocket/chain. Intiallt the chain hit the frame, with Randy of MDR mentoring I turned the sprocket side down .300 and the disc side .200 and as you see in the pictures it looks like everything is going to be perfect.


We used a dial indicator to make sure the wheel was centered on the radius cutter attachment of the mill.
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Once centered the cutting can begin........this is the sprocket side after .300 later.
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A picture of the wheel mounted on the radius cutter on the mill.
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Here is the axle cut to length. The top axle is a stock Buell axle and the second one is the shortened one and the amount that was cut off below the second axle. Randy N. bored out the center of the nut and turned down part of the axle and slid the two together and tig welded the two together.
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Here is my new clearance on the sprocket side.
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Here is my clearance on the disc side.
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I sent my cases to NRHS and they are balancing everything as well as assembling the bottom end.

I am impressed at the speed of your progress. I didn't see your fork stops. That one had me scratching my head for a while. Are you using a fairing?

Sam

I am impressed at the speed of your progress. I didn't see your fork stops. That one had me scratching my head for a while. Are you using a fairing?

Sam

Thanks D.E. however things will be really be picking up as I am boing to devote most of my extra time to the bike in order to get it done in the next 40 days so I am ready and can run at Bonneville.

Fork stops are going to be fabricated today and I will probably run a fairing next year as well as a rear section.

Scott

I have been working on the rear brake bracket................here is a picture of the stock one which is way to wide to use in my chassis.

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And the begining of the new one
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Chucked up and ready for drilling
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Holes drilled and one screw hole tapped
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Welded this threaded coupler to the bracket after I tightened it down and the screw passed throught the bracket and the coupler to insure the threads were in time with each other. ( I think that's what you call it)
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Here is the completed bracket
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The other side
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With the caliper mounted.......I may not use this bracket as I ran into a problem with the clearances for the rotor because this is a floating caliper. I need to spend a little more time on it to correct the problem, however icould easily make another bracket in a short amount of time and use a two piston caliper and that would solve my problem. I am going to look at other options later for the rear brake. I really need a break from working on the brake!
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Oil tank is installed along with the battery box.
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Been a busy weekend! I got my spare motor put in so I could line up the rear sprocket and figure out the offset needed for my trans sprocket. All of my sprockets are on order and being made at PBI. Had my heads flowed and was pleasantly suprised to find out that the motor has the potenial to make about 133 hp if I can tune it and build a good exhaust system. Got lots of parts ordered and on the way. I have about 30 days left and it is going to be close. I hope I can make it............


Got the footpegs and shifter completed.
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Grinded, shaped, drilled and sandblasted peg mounts.
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Mounts welded on.
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Shifter rod was made of aluminum stock. I drilled and tapped the ends for the heim joints.
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Motor mount is almost complete to include a mounting location for the two Dyna coils. The coil portion still has alot of work as I need to trim the piece down once the thread bungs are welded to the plate.
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Another view of the motor/coil mount.
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Got my new grips put on and the clip-ons in what I believe are there permanent location.
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I can see you now in the back of a Ryder truck in the parking lot at a casino at 3 AM.

Remember to hydrate...

Sam

I can see you now in the back of a Ryder truck in the parking lot at a casino at 3 AM.

Remember to hydrate...

Sam

LOL! No I will be in the back off my friend airconditioned cargo trailer sleeping next to my bike in a small confined space!

The cases will be back from NRHS tomorrow afternoon with the bottom end assembled and fresh off of the balancing table. I hope to start final motor assembly very soon.

Finished up the coil mounts this evening and took the bike off of the lift so I could check steering clearances for the steering dampener and stops. I will start on both of the items tomorrow.

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The bike off of the lift measures 36 inches to the top of the triple tree.

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My motor came in today from being balanced with the bottom end put together.
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Here is the steering dampener I bought it is off of an 06' Suzuki GSXR and some angle iron to make the bracket to hold it to the frame.
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Here are a few shots of the finished bracket.
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http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/100_1179.jpg


Here is the bracket welded to the down tube.
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And a few shots of the dampener mounted to the bike.
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Stopped by Mr Riches shop Thursday and picked up my front fender. I found the gas take in a motorcycle salvage yard. The tank is off of a 1975 Yamaha DT 100 and with a little work it should fit perfect. I am going to cut off the rear mount and re-attach it to fit the backbone of the bike as well as change out the petcock for a Pingel Race petcock.
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Picked up this Thunderheader this morning for a $100, I have been watching these on ebay and they have been going for over $350 used. I ordered a collector, megaphone, a bunch of u-bends and tubing yesterday to build an exhaust, but the Thunderheader will get me running incase I run out of time.
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I finished the brake bracket with the exception of the brake stop which will hold the bracket in a fixed location. The stop will be welded to the bottom of the frame rail and connect to the bracket and will be adjustable to match the axle blocks.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/100_1195.jpg

Lots of parts have been coming in there just isn't enough time in the day!! There are two things I am running short on.............TIME AND MONEY!!! I have 24 days left until we leave for Bonneville so the pressure is on and it is going to be tight on time to finish the bike. If I don't finish it by August 7th my first race will be Sept 16th at El Mirage.

Scott

Welcome to Salt Fever. Hehehehe

Sam

Finished up the brake and stop this evening..........I think I need a new rotor this one isn't exactly straight. I didn't realize it until I spun the wheel.
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I also got all of my exhaust components today, a 5' section of tube, 4 4" radius bends, 4 3" radius bends, two into one collector and cone. I'm not sure when I will do the exhaust and I think the 3" bends are a bit on the small side, but I won't know until I start building.
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Scott

Well I have managed to shed off what was almost a burn out on my part from putting to much time into the bike. I have paced myself and feel like I get more done by just stopping when need be and come back at it fresh another time.

I had to cut off the axle block adjuster and step it out to match the width off the brake bracket.
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Here is the offset ready to welded in place.
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Finished
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Got all of the final wheel spacers cut and installed as well as the axle adjustment spacers.
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Drilled a hole in the gusset for the steering stops
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Here is the solid rod that will be used for the stops.
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Getting rid of the sharp edges.
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In place and ready for welding.
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Finished
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Now onto the tank mounts, here is what is on the tank.
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Here are the brackets that will hold the rubber grommets in place.
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Starting on the rear mount.
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Finished rear mount.
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Side view of tank mounted in it's final resting place.
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I will get back to work tomorrow and hopefully start on the tail section which may be modeled after a sportbike tail............I will just have to wait and see until I get out there as I have ideas I am just not sure if and how they will work.

Scott

You are amazing, the work you are doing. And you are documenting it really well, thanks, this thread is the best!

You are amazing, the work you are doing. And you are documenting it really well, thanks, this thread is the best!

Baazzoo, thanks! I am just an amateur who enjoys building bikes and learns as I go..........

BTW: I'm a Bears fan as well and can't wait for the season to begin.

Scott

Started to build the tail section today............I spent the better part of the morning into lunch time just starring at the bike and holding up different pieces of tubing at different angles until I found something that was functional yet not completely ugly. Finally this afternoon I figured it out and went to building.
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Notching the tubes with my cheap Harbor Freight tubing notcher.
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Here is the first support with a 0 degree notch on one end and a 45 degree on the other.
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Check to see if it fits.
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The hard part is making two identical pieces.
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Ready to be tacked.
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Tacked and adding a cross support.
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I will finish the welding when I tear everything down. I am pretty pleased with how the tail came out with the exception of how long it took.
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I have just about finished up the tail section with the exception of permanently attaching the seat pan and the number plates. I have had a few days to look at the tail section and I think it is starting to grown on me..........
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Here is the stock petcock that came on the tank
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I enlarged the hole for the new bung to be welded in place to fit the new petcock
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New bung in place ready to be welded along with the two screw holes for the old petcock.
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Here is a similar Guzzler Valve from Pingel that I borrowed from Kent until my comes in next week.
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I started to try and make the Thunderheader fit and after some thinking I decided I was gonna go ahead and attempt my first set of pipes due to the fact that I spent so much money on the heads. I measured the I.D. of the TH and it was 1.594 and my piping is 1.76 so the bike should breathe a lot better the exhaust I build.
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Took me two tries to get my rear fender right. (read symetrical)
Give me a shout if you need insight on the pipes.

Sam

Looking very good Scott!

Outstanding!!! Scott,
Just awesome...
Your fork stops, so simple yet efficient and good looking to.
I noticed you flipped the steering damper, was that to clear the tank?
What gage metal did you use on the foot controls?
Damn, How I wish you were my Brother and better lived next door...LOL
Swankster

great looking.
I like following your progress. You can see it growing.
Very cool.
keep posting

Looking good, that Yamaha tank looks like it was made for your bike.

What a great build up story. I wish you the best of luck. Don't aim too high. Your first trip out is mainly a learning experience. (Unless your name is Aaron.)

First off thanks for all of the great replies guys! It is the great feedback from everyone that has kept me going. I work on the bike in the evenings after work and the push to get it done has been a tired one, but it is almost done and ready to be ridden!

Outstanding!!! Scott,
I noticed you flipped the steering damper, was that to clear the tank?
What gage metal did you use on the foot controls?

Ya I flipped it to clear the tank and it works just as good.........just doesn't look as good.

As far as the controls are you speaking of the mounting brackets? If so I think it was .250 maybe smaller.

What a great build up story. I wish you the best of luck. Don't aim too high. Your first trip out is mainly a learning experience. (Unless your name is Aaron.)

All I am looking for at Bonneville this year if I make it is the experience and time tuning the motor.

Scott

Tune your motor before you go. When you buy event gas, get the closest octane to what you tuned it for. If you got a good tune at home, it'll be a bit rich Up There. A good thing. Or drive by Denver on the way. I hear Dan has a dyno.. :)


Sam

Tune your motor before you go. When you buy event gas, get the closest octane to what you tuned it for. If you got a good tune at home, it'll be a bit rich Up There. A good thing. Or drive by Denver on the way. I hear Dan has a dyno.. :)


Sam

I will get minimal time here at home to tune the motor if I get done and I wouldn't mind being rich at Bonneville rather than lean.

Dan and the nice folks at NRHS did offer to help out with the dyno if I could get there.......which almost a thousand miles out of my way.

Scott

Finished the exhaust today..........
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Looks Great! gonna need a flat track foot plate to keep your right foot cool :p

Finished making the front fender brackets as well as trimming, mounting and painting the fender. The brackets were made out of steel strips I cut out of a scrap sheet I had lying around. I welded some round tube to the strips to offset the bracket out passed the fork leg and then bent it back in so it would go around the leg to the mounting location on the fender.

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Here is a pic of the finished fender mounted on the bike.

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The bike is looking great. Very nice and well built. I hope you are planning an inner rear fender of sorts. That salt gets *everywhere*!

The bike is looking great. Very nice and well built. I hope you are planning an inner rear fender of sorts. That salt gets *everywhere*!


Eventually, but not this trip.

Scott

Looking great Scott. Too bad you can't make Bubs cuz a little friendly competition would be welcome.

I am hearing bad reports about the salt conditions for WOS. Sounds like it is under water right now and there is a good chance it is going to be called off.

Looking great Scott. Too bad you can't make Bubs cuz a little friendly competition would be welcome.

I am hearing bad reports about the salt conditions for WOS. Sounds like it is under water right now and there is a good chance it is going to be called off.

There is some info on the SCTA web site about the conditions and there thoughts........I gather they think everything will be ok as long as they do not get any more rain.

If WOS gets called off I will more than likely be at the BUB meet.

Scott

BTW: Dan, I always appreciate speaking with you and all the time you have taken to help make this bike turn from a dream into reality. My bike would be no where as good had you not assisted in the drivetain portion.

You guys are confused. The upcoming event is Speedweek, not World of Speed (WOS). After Speedweek is Bub's, 9/2. Then WOS on 9/12. Then World Finals in October.

It's 50-50 for Speedweek, just depends on the weather. If they don't get more rain, there's plenty of time for it to dry out. It's way way way too early to say for Bub's or WOS or World Finals though.

You guys are confused. The upcoming event is Speedweek, not World of Speed (WOS). After Speedweek is Bub's, 9/2. Then WOS on 9/12. Then World Finals in October.

It's 50-50 for Speedweek, just depends on the weather. If they don't get more rain, there's plenty of time for it to dry out. It's way way way too early to say for Bub's or WOS or World Finals though.


I was just going along with Dan........monkey see monkey do!

I finished up the chain guard last week.
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The bike has been tore down and final welding complete.
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Gas tank is back from welding as well as the exhaust.
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I have some minor work to finish on the exhaust. I need to finish the flanges as well as remake the rear mount and weld on the spring tabs to hold everything together for the slip-fit portion.
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MDR turned down my 530 front sprocket to a 520 sprocket.
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Frame, front end and a lot of other parts have been painted and are ready for assembly.
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Seat pan has been painted and riveted to the chassis.
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This is where I stopped last night around midnight, I still have a lot of work to do and I will be hard at it again today.

Scott

I got all of the places that take a gasket prepped and cleaned as well as got the motor painted.
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Squaring the piston ring so end gap can be checked.
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Piston ring gap.....
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This evening after I finished with end gapping I tried to put my pistons on the connecting rods and was not very successful. Turns out my pistons are only .002 wider than the end of my rods. After seeking advice from several experienced friends I decided it would be best to have the pistons clearanced professionally. I believe this is the item that is going to keep me from finishing the bike prior to Speed Week due to the fact that I still had some minor fabrication to do to the bike that needed the motor to be in place.

Scott

Despite the problem I ran into last night with the piston I kept chipping away at it today. I put the new motor in and set the barrels and heads on so I could check clearance for the petcock to the motor mount and so I could finish the exhaust flanges. I did find the petcock is going to hit the front rocker box so a simple spacer in between the back bone and the tank will solve that problem.
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Front fender installed
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I got the brake mount and stop painted and installed. I had to re-space the brake caliper as I took approx another .020 off of the brake side hub of the wheel and turned down the rotor to make everything straight and true. Also pre-drilled all of the holes for the number plates and will pick-up some 1/4 20 button heads screws tomorrow.
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Got lots of parts painted and ready to be installed.
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I got a great lesson from Randy at MDR on how to mill the pistons, he finished them Monday evening but I just didn't have the time to install them between work and my busy schedule. So this will be my last post on the bike until we get back from Bonneville. I will finish the bike when I return and hopefully will have it ready for the El Mirage race on September 16th.
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Scott

Scott,

I really like your project. What I really like is your spirit toward it, the way you are following your vision. Your excitement comes through your posts and it is contagious. Everytime I log and read a new entry, see a new photo, hear your story on overcoming the obsticles that are inherent with a build like this; it puts a smile on my face.

My friend Randy(rchop) and I made it back from Speedweek, both with records as rookies. It would be great if that could happen every year. We had a great time at Bonneville and I know I will always remember my first trip with a great deal of significance.

Here is Randy getting ready to run.......he chased the record all week and finally got it on the second to last day. I think we both agree that this picture is probably one of the best that either of us took during the meet. It really captures "Bonneville". Randy set the record for the APS-PG 750cc class to 120 mph and some change with his home built BMW.
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Here I am getting ready to ride my way into the history books on Kents very healthy 750 Suzuki sidecar.
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Receiving my instructions from the starter.
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Heading down the course.......
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I had a few firsts while at Bonneville, first time to ride that bike, first time ever riding anything with a sidecar and first time down the salt. All were great experiences and I am grateful that Kent was nice enough to let me ride one of his bikes.

I made three passes while at Bonneville all were on the sidecar. My first pass was a rookie run in which I did 137 mph. The record at the time was 135 and some change, I was kind of shocked I went faster than the record on my rookie run. This first pass was quite an experience as I had all of those firsts going on at the same time, almost overwhelming but what a rush, it left me only wanting more and to make another pass.

My second pass consisted of me doing 146 mph and qualifying for the record, had I not short shifted the last gear I may have been able to pull a 150 mph pass. Things were much easier to concentrate on this time like actually riding the bike and watching the tach.

My third run was a back up run for the record. I didn't quite hit the shift points exactly where I was suppose to, but I did have a top speed a 150 mph and backed up the run and got a record. This pass was much clearer than the previous two and I feel that if I had the opportunity to make a few more passes on the bike I could defiantly get into the mid 150's, but for now the record for SC-G 750 cc is 147 and some more change.

So all in all we had a great trip and met a lot of great people that I look forward to speaking with again next year. Thanks to all that helped it is really appreciated!


Got back to building the bike today with intentions of wrapping up the motor this weekend. I started off by finishing the end gap on the rings and weighing the pistons to make sure they were the same after the milling work.
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Turns out Randy N is a very precise machinist as both pistons were exactly the same and did not require any more work. Here are both pistons on the scale with wristpins, clips and rings.
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Got everything together and was ready to move on but..........
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I decided I better check piston to piston clearance before I move forward. Good thing I did as the picture shows the pistons do come in contact with on another. Not much but anything in this case is a lot. So I may just clearance them myself and re-weigh everything, if not I will have them machined.
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Stay tuned more to come..............

Scott,

I really like your project. What I really like is your spirit toward it, the way you are following your vision. Your excitement comes through your posts and it is contagious. Everytime I log and read a new entry, see a new photo, hear your story on overcoming the obsticles that are inherent with a build like this; it puts a smile on my face.

Thank you for taking the time to post. I am glad that I can be a postive part of your day every now and then.

Scott

Got the pistons marked and the tool of choice ready to do the job......
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A finished piston......
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I started to check the squish band and it is way out so I am assuming I am going to have to mill down the cylinders........more fun.......it seems to be never ending!

So I started on some other areas of the drivetrain I could finish..........here are the cams installed.
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I got the new lifter blocks installed along with the new Jim's hydro solid lifters and roll pins. I also put in one push rod tube so I could figure out where all of the seals go......
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For my build I decided to run a total loss system, here is the before picture of the front primary sprocket.
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And here is the after without the stator and rotor. The rotor weighed over four pounds, this should reduce some of the rotating mass with in the motor.
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Got the tranny in and am still trying to figure out the shift mechanism.......I will leave this for tomorrow's work.
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I found out today in order to take apart the clutch pack you need a $75-$100tool. I have neither the time or money so I made a few things I had in the garage work.

First I took a piece of 4" pipe I had left over from a bench grinder stand I built.
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I cut a 2" section off of the end.
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Set that on the clutch pack
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I then took a part from my steering wheel puller and set it over that.
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Set it in the press and very carefully compressed the pack and used a flathead screwdriver and very carefully moved the clip out.
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This took me about 5 minutes to do from start to finish and I used stuff I had laying around.

Got the new Rivera/Primo pressure plate installed along with the new steel and friction plates.
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I got the sprockets installed and the primary chain on..............
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Tomorrow a call to NRHS to figure out the minor issue with my motor.

Scott

Thanks for sharing. I have read and enjoyed every post:)

DC

Your attention to detail and desire to share is great. Thanks, I never thought building a LSR bike would be so fun. Rock on buddy

Your attention to detail and desire to share is great. Thanks, I never thought building a LSR bike would be so fun. Rock on buddy

I think I have seen you on Clubchopper correct?? I used to frequent there quite a bit.......still visit and post up my build. I was lucky enough to win Chop of the Month once.

Thanks for the compliments they are greatly appreciated.

Scott

Nice clean job. It should show in your results. Great post!

Nice clean job. It should show in your results. Great post!


Thanks Cooter!

I found out earlier this week that the problem was with my pistons and was the manufacturer's fault when the order was placed. So I was destined never to make it to Bonneville with this bike this year after all. Turns out when the pistons were ordered there was an error when the order was taken and the pistons were made with the wrong compression height. They were .187 off to be correct, basically I got stroker pistons. So now we have a new dilemma, no pistons! And it takes 5-6 weeks to get pistons made for this bore. After a lot of thinking I decided I was going to have the heads turned down. This didn't work out either because it is an interrupted cut and the cylinder couldn't be held in a manner that was safe enough to cut it without breaking the cylinder or the tooling. Back to square one, again!

After a call to Dan at NRHS it was decided that they were going to take the pistons out of one of the bikes they are working on and send them to me two day so I can have them by Friday in hopes of finishing the bike and making the next El Mirage race.

So a big thanks to Dan for making this right and getting me a set of pistons to use while my other set are be made.

This looks more like it......the piston actually comes to the top of the bore.
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Testing for the squish band clearance, this lets me know how close the piston is coming to the head. I have domed pistons and the head has been cut to match the piston.
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Squish is in between .0032 - .0035 depending on where the measurement was taken from. I checked six locations per piston. .0030 is the optimum clearance, however I feel good with the clearance I have and not running things so tight.
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Here is the pile of measured pieces of solder that were not the desired clearance. The clearance is achieved by adding or taking away of base and head gaskets. When I started I was at about .005.
Also remember every time you take a measurement the head has to be put on and torqued down in sequence, kind of a pain in the ass!
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Next job is to clearance the rocker boxes as the stock boxes will not accept the big valves.
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Finished with one box
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Tomorrow I will finish the rockers boxes and put in the push rods and bleed down the lifters so I can clay the motor to check piston to valve clearance. If all goes well maybe I can finally button the motor up for once.

been there done that, it's a pain but necessary to get it right.

did you end up using a base gasket or yamabond ??

been there done that, it's a pain but necessary to get it right.

did you end up using a base gasket or yamabond ??

.20 base gasket

Got the boxes all cleaned up for all of the new gaskets as well as got the roller rockers installed,
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Filled the valve reliefs with clay to check piston to valve clearance.
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Lifters have been bled down and installed and the motor is ready to be turned over.
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Here is what it looked like after the motor was rolled over.
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Here is how I measured the thickness of the clay. I have over .100 on the intake and the exhaust was not even close. I also have plenty of eyebrow clearance where the relief gets closer to the valve on the side of the piston.
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Motor is pretty much done FINALLY! Just need to finish installing the cam and primary cover and anything that hooks to them or runs through them. I still need to install all of the oil lines, ignition, starter, oil tank and make up some spark plug wires.
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preformed the leak down test today and it was 0-2% on both cylinders.

I had to raise the back of the tank a little bit to give me some clearance to keep the petcock from sitting on the rocker box.
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Here is the clearance after raising the back of the tank.
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I got the intake, carb, fuel line and velocity stack installed. I am not sure how much I like that stack sticking way and the hell out there, but it is gonna have to do for the time being. This was a pain in the ass job as I had a hard time with the intake and the new seals.
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I got all of the sprocket, trans and clutch bolts torqued down to specs. I finished installing the primary cover, adjusting the chain tension, adjusting the clutch and installing and adjusting the foot shifter.
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I installed the new higher flow oil pump and installed all of the fittings. Also figured out the whole oil system so I can run the lines tomorrow after blasting the oil tank and painting.
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Tested the starter then painted it to match the motor and then installed it.........
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I was also able to run the clutch cable to the perch and set it up as well as hook up the throttle cables.

I grew up in a family that built new race cars every winter for the local dirt tracks, your build is a helluva lot more interesting and fun to keep up with. Congrats on the rookie record, impressive as well.

A beautiful piece of machinery!

I grew up in a family that built new race cars every winter for the local dirt tracks, your build is a helluva lot more interesting and fun to keep up with. Congrats on the rookie record, impressive as well.


Thanks for all of the compliments guys............

Regarding your velocity stack. We had basically the same deal on our 1650 engine. Art Northrup came up with a small scoop that attached to the outer rim. It recaptured a lot of the fuel that is spit out by the reversion. The bike was tuned to run with it and it ran like crap if we took it off. It seemed to lean it out quite a bit.

And believe me.... there was a lot of fuel spit out of the carb from the reversion waves. On the dyno, there was a plume of fuel vapor being spit out about 18-24".

Regarding your velocity stack. We had basically the same deal on our 1650 engine. Art Northrup came up with a small scoop that attached to the outer rim. It recaptured a lot of the fuel that is spit out by the reversion. The bike was tuned to run with it and it ran like crap if we took it off. It seemed to lean it out quite a bit.

And believe me.... there was a lot of fuel spit out of the carb from the reversion waves. On the dyno, there was a plume of fuel vapor being spit out about 18-24".


Thanks for the info, I guess once I make a few passes on the dyno and make a few passes down the course I will figure it out.

Scott

The whole thing kinda made me rethink velocity stacks. When I put my 80" engine in, I used a ring from an SE air cleaner on the carb and fixed an old Buell airbox to sheild it from the air rushing by.

There is ample proof that carburetors like a large volume of still air from which to draw. Just look at the V-Rod and any sportbike.

The whole thing kinda made me rethink velocity stacks. When I put my 80" engine in, I used a ring from an SE air cleaner on the carb and fixed an old Buell airbox to sheild it from the air rushing by.

There is ample proof that carburetors like a large volume of still air from which to draw. Just look at the V-Rod and any sportbike.

I have been thinking that next year I will put a full LSR fairing on the bike and run ducts to pressurize an airbox and then let the carb draw what it needs from the box.

Scott

"... and run ducts to pressurize an airbox"

and that creates it's own set of problems. Some carbs venting systems and thunderjet systems will force the inclusion of the carb body into the "pressurized airbox". hint - the carbs are designed for a vacuum in the throat, not pressure.


and yes, running a velocity stack perpendicular to the airflow will seem like it's pulling fuel out of the motor, ...... that little air dam Art built works well.



ohh...to spend at week at the HRC (Honda Racing Corp) testing center where they have a dyno in a wind tunnel.

and yes, running a velocity stack perpendicular to the airflow will seem like it's pulling fuel out of the motor, ...... that little air dam Art built works well.


I think I have seen one picture of the stack with ehat I would call a scoop that looked almos like a half moon. Do you have any pictures?



ohh...to spend at week at the HRC (Honda Racing Corp) testing center where they have a dyno in a wind tunnel.

Are you telling me I need to go there or that you went there, I am not quite sure.

Scott

Welded these tabs onto each side of the coil mounts to keep it from snapping off due to vibration. Also got the top motor mount painted and drilled the hole for the top motor mount to hook up to the frame.
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Coils mounted.......and painted.
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Got the camchest installed, ignition installed, oil tank painted and installed, oil lines ran, and trans sprocket cover painted and installed.
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Got chain and chain guard installed.
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All cables are hooked up with the exception of the kill switches and the tach.
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Brake line has been hooked-up and installed
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Its coming together.......here is a side view.
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I may have missed it, are you painting the tank or leaving it as is. Your workmanship is awesome, can't wait for the pics of it's first run.

I may have missed it, are you painting the tank or leaving it as is. Your workmanship is awesome, can't wait for the pics of it's first run.


For now I will leave it..........lots of people have said that is the identifier of the bike and what people will remember. Next year I will paint it the same colors only it will say BUELL 1350.

Thank you for the compliments!

Scott

Well I got all of the wiring done and most of the small stuff done. Here are a few pics of the exhaust being painted with some high temp rattle can stuff that ended up looking way better than I ever thought it would. The pipes look ceramic coated.
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Tonight I fired the bike up and man is it loud! It fired right up and ran for a few seconds and died..........now I can only get it to fire with the enrichener and same thing it will run for a sec or two at most and die. When it does fire and run for the short time it sounds real healthy and dies just as fast as it started.

So to this point I have checked the petcock for flow, checked to make sure the float bowl was getting fuel and checked the main and intermediate jet for any clogs or debris and everything appears to be good. I am running a dyna 2000i ignition and feel the timing is correct, I feel the problem is with in the carb as I can not see any fuel sprayed into the carb when I twist the throttle open. I am running a S&S D with a Thunderjet.

It got late here quick and everytime I would fire it off I think I scared all of the dogs and cats with in a square mile. So tomorrow I will get to troubleshooting the problem on a fresh mind and hopefully get the beast to idle.

Scott

I got the bike figured out this afternoon! It runs, it runs!! The problem was that I wired the coils in parallel like I have always done not realizing that when I bought the coils six months ago that I bought lower resistance coil for the race application, these need to be wired in series so the ignition was trying to protect itself by shutting down since it saw 1.5 ohms instead of the 3.0 ohms it was looking for.

I still need to make adjustments on the carb and the timing. I will do all of these changes on the dyno hopefully next week sometime. I am taking the bike to El Mirage tomorrow to have it inspected in preparation for October's meet. I have decided against running it tomorrow because I was not able to tune the motor at all. I will get a good tune in it in the next week or so and be ready for October.

For those that have asked in the past about the riding position, here is a picture of me testing to see if tach is located is the optimum postion.

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Can't wait to hear how she does. The best my bike did with the 1300 was 155 or so. I know............ weak!

Well I made it out to Elmo today to have the bike inspected. Everything went well and I only have to change one line on my carb from the Thunderjet (an oversight on my part) and I was given advise on a few other items, but all were said to be safe and would pass inspection. So this month I will get the bike tuned and maybe even go up to Elmo and run it in preparation for October's meet.

The gas tank seems to continue to create controversy, people either really love it or they want to see it painted as they like the shape and say it goes well with the bike. The Yamaha tank was definitely a conversation piece for a few people today whether they loved it or hated it.

Hear are a few pics.......
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Great pics , looking good :)

That bike is bitchen! I'd do some experimenting with a tail section. Look at some of the Airtech road race pieces.

As for the tank..... it's your bike. Do with it as you like. I think it would look neat to repaint it exactly like it looks now but have it say 1350 Sportster instead of 100 Yammy.

That bike is bitchen! I'd do some experimenting with a tail section. Look at some of the Airtech road race pieces.

As for the tank..... it's your bike. Do with it as you like. I think it would look neat to repaint it exactly like it looks now but have it say 1350 Sportster instead of 100 Yammy.

Thanks GWCRIM,

Well lucky for me Kent (owner of Airtech) is a good friend of mine. I will be adding a full race fairing over the winter to include a tail section. The bike will remain as is until that point. I will probably take the tank completely off in trade for a custom built tank to allow me to lay on the back bone.

Scott

Got the bike on the dyno for a short time today. We made a real soft first run just to make sure everything was good with the drivetrain and the new motor. All went well and it was clear the bike was on the rich side of things on the main jet. We didn't make any changes as it was more of a shakedown pass then anything. We made two more passes and had some problems with the sniffer/gas analyzer so I couldn't make any changes and then be able to see the affect they had.

So all in all I am happy as I found out that all of the motor/trans work I did held together on the dyno. Checked the hp on the last two passes and both were 110 rwhp @ 7000 rpm with a great power curve that had no dips or spikes in it at all and created power nice and steady all the way to the rev limiter. I have the rev limiter set at 7000 rpm, but may play with it after some research on what will be a safe rpm to rev to without blowing the motor.

We fill that once back on the dyno after it is repaired and some jetting changes, playing with timing a bit and maybe the rev limter we may be able to pull another 10-15 + horse out of the motor.

So for just setting up the motor in my garage by sound and throttle response I am happy to this point with the 110 horse out of the little 82 cubic inch motor.

Scott

That is great! I can't help but think how much fun that engine would be in a street bike! Your attention to detail has paid off.

Scott,
Are you going to sit on sheetmetal/frame :wonderlan (ouch) or put a seat, some foam or pad of some sort?
IMO the tank is way cool but I think it would look better yet with a satin black rattle can to match the cases.
BTW, what oil pump did you go with?
Awesome! work and keep it up; and best of luck in your aspirations.
Swankster

Scott,
Are you going to sit on sheetmetal/frame :wonderlan (ouch) or put a seat, some foam or pad of some sort?
IMO the tank is way cool but I think it would look better yet with a satin black rattle can to match the cases.
BTW, what oil pump did you go with?
Awesome! work and keep it up; and best of luck in your aspirations.
Swankster


Sitting on sheetmetal.......it is actually comfortable and who cares when your adrenaline is kicked in when you know you are about to go WFO!!

The tank will probably get painted and it make even get replaced with a custom made one that will allow me to get lower.

I used the higher flow Ulleyses(spell) oil pump. Let me tell you it flows to.....I opened the oil tank when it was running and it spit a bunch of oil all over me and the bike.

Scott

Well lucky for me Kent (owner of Airtech) is a good friend of mine.

I'm sure he'll fix you right up.

How fast do you think she'll go? 160 MPH is a big nut for that size engine.

The record for the class is 166mph. Not sure who set that record though? hehe

Ok, I finally got some video of the bike today. I bled the brake today so I thought I would take it out for it's first run.

Video one is 1:37 long and you can really hear how good the bike sounds and video two is 1:50 long and was added because it was kinda hard to see the bike with all the cars parked along the street.

I have'nt done much work to the bike lately as I have kinda been taken a break, however it is almost 100% race ready. I still have to do some small minor stuff to finish along with saftey wiring the bike.

Scott

#1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWAvkV3TyHM

#2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqdzIWy6MFU

I used the higher flow Ulleyses(spell) oil pump. Let me tell you it flows to.....I opened the oil tank when it was running and it spit a bunch of oil all over me and the bike.

The 2007 or 2008 oil pump?

It is probably the 07" pump as it was bought almost six months ago.

Scott

So many people have said this already but........that bike is awesome, your hardwork is ...... workin !
I say keep the tanks as is and good luck with the record !

Live Life
Jasper

"video two is 1:50 long and was added because it was kinda hard to see the bike with all the cars parked along the street"

No, video two, is because you just had to do that one more time:tour

WoW it sounds MEAN! I like that first gear. At what mph do you figure you'll be shifting out of first?

It is probably the 07" pump as it was bought almost six months ago.

Ya, it's probably an 07 oil pump. That one is easier to use. The 2008 is a completely different oil pump. It would take some work to make it work. I was just putting it out there to see if you did it considering the vast amount of modifications you made.

"video two is 1:50 long and was added because it was kinda hard to see the bike with all the cars parked along the street"

No, video two, is because you just had to do that one more time:tour

WoW it sounds MEAN! I like that first gear. At what mph do you figure you'll be shifting out of first?


Ok, that to......not sure on the speed I will have to check my calculations. I know one thing it is scary fast.......very QUICK when the throttle is twisted.

Scott

Outstanding, Scott!!!!:banana:banana:banana

Wow, I just found this thread...and I read every post of the 14 pages...I love the sound you have gotten with those pipes! Have you gotten a final hp/tq number?
Matt

Wow, I just found this thread...and I read every post of the 14 pages...I love the sound you have gotten with those pipes! Have you gotten a final hp/tq number?
Matt

No not yet, hopefully later in the week or early next week.

We really feel 125-130 hp to be a realistic number.

Scott

Are you going to post any of your dyno sheets?

We really feel 125-130 hp to be a realistic number.

That would be impressive. I thought 1.5 hp per CI was the limit for Harley engines. 130 hp would make 1.58 hp per CI. 125 hp seems to more achievable at 1.52hp per CI. You're already doing real good at 110 hp: 1.34 hp per CI.

Are you going to post any of your dyno sheets?



That would be impressive. I thought 1.5 hp per CI was the limit for Harley engines. 130 hp would make 1.58 hp per CI. 125 hp seems to more achievable at 1.52hp per CI. You're already doing real good at 110 hp: 1.34 hp per CI.

I will try and post them when I get them.........I do not have a scanner, but I will try and figure something out.

Scott

I will try and post them when I get them.........I do not have a scanner, but I will try and figure something out.


When you get your bike dynoed you can take a disk with you and ask him to put the dyno files on it. He can either put the actual run files (you'll need freely available software to read it) or he can export the files as jpegs.

When you get your bike dynoed you can take a disk with you and ask him to put the dyno files on it. He can either put the actual run files (you'll need freely available software to read it) or he can export the files as jpegs.


I will do what I can Cbass.......for now picture a straight 45 degree angle with no dips or spikes ....that was the last one.

Scott

I got the air/fuel analyzer working on the dyno and made a few passes this evening. I am still on the rich side but getting closer. I had a nice big dip in power around 6600 rpm and it came back on strong after that so tomorrow I will mess around with that and try and figure it out, I need to read up on my Thunderjet as thinking something may be happening there. After I get the air/fuel right I will move onto the ignition and hopefully be done tomorrow afternoon so I can get ready to go to the race on Sunday.

As we stand now it as at 114 horse at 7300 rpm and if I recall correctly around 90 ft tq give or take and about 12-1 a/f.

If all goes well tomorrow hopefully it will be in the 120's.

Scott

best of luck, really enjoying your posts. very nice work

Chris

I got as far as I could this afternoon on the dyno. My final number were 122.7 hp and 95.5 ft tq. I got rid of the dip in power at 6600 rpm by tightening up a loose connection on one of the coils. That was not the only thing that loosened up and had to be tightened......dam Harley's! I got the a/f as close as I could, it is about 13.5 at 4000 rpm and slowly tapers to about 12.5 +/- as it gets to redline at 7500 rpm. I could not get the a/f as good below 4000 rpm because the bigger intermediate jets I ordered are back ordered. I drilled one intermediate out to .041 which helped, but did not completely fix the condition. Good thing is once I am out of first gear the motor should not see to much of 4000 rpm and below. I played with the timing a little bit and got a few extra horsepower out of the motor, however I may have got more if I would of made a few more passes.

I feel there is little bit more hp and tq in the motor if I did some more fine tunning, but it is good for now. I definately feel a good experienced dyno tuner could exceed what I have done as I am just a rookie tuner.
For now I am very happy with the numbers and all that is left to do is race the dam thing!

Scott

Horsepower only
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Horsepower and torque........not sure what happened to the dyno/printer with the torque line??
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I got as far as I could this afternoon on the dyno. My final number were 122.7 hp and 95.5 ft tq. I got rid of the dip in power at 6600 rpm by tightening up a loose connection on one of the coils.

Seems like you are right at the 1.5 per CI that I said. :D 82 CI X 1.5 = 123 hp.

I would like to see more, but I don't know if the engine will produce more.

By the way, the jagged lines means something still isn't happy.

Seems like you are right at the 1.5 per CI that I said. :D 82 CI X 1.5 = 123 hp.

I would like to see more, but I don't know if the engine will produce more.

By the way, the jagged lines means something still isn't happy.

Cbass, the motor will produce more I am 100% sure about that. The jagged line is the "smoothing" function on the dyno which is bassically zoom in or out of the graph line, if I set it out it shows a very smooth line, however it shows 1 horse less. I did all of the dyno tuning by myself so I have familiarized with the program.

Scott

Cbass, the motor will produce more I am 100% sure about that. The jagged line is the "smoothing" function on the dyno which is bassically zoom in or out of the graph line, if I set it out it shows a very smooth line, however it shows 1 horse less. I did all of the dyno tuning by myself so I have familiarized with the program.

Ok, that makes more sense. I assumed it was on the highest setting for smoothing. If that was the case, then my comment would apply. Otherwise, you can disregard it.

I would like to see the motor produce more. I think it would be impressive to pass the 1.5hp per CI mark.

I would like to see the motor produce more. I think it would be impressive to pass the 1.5hp per CI mark.

Cbass,

I am 100% confident it will pass that mark with no problems.......I do not know how long it takes for the rings to completely seat but if they are not set yet there is more power there and I know I did not get every last drop of power out of as I ran out of time.

Scott

My first run was good and exactly what they wanted out of a rookie inbetween 125 and 150mph. The bike pulled extremely hard through first, second and third gears! I was really suprised at just how hard the bike pulled. In 4th and 5th around 7000 rpm the bike started breaking up and at this point I believe the thunderjet may have added to much fuel at the higher rpms as it is vaccum operated. So my one and only pass for the season was 128 mph with a really rich tune in the bike. I made the neccesay jetting changes in hope for a second pass. I felt if the bike ran as good as it did in first, second and third and could do the same in fourth and fifth that It would make a 150 pass with no problems.


After a few of the Roadsters blew tires and had some spinouts on the course they deemed it unsafe and stopped all second round runs for Saturday in an effort to move the course over. So I would have to wait until Sunday morning to see what she really has.

Well we got up early this morning and got to the track at around 7:00 A.M. so I could get a good spot as the air is better in the morning. I was 4th in line and attended the drivers meeting at 8:00 A.M. where all the driver were told they may cancel the event due to the ambulance not being able to be on site and that they did not want to take any chances with anyones saftey. They relayed to us if they could not contact an ambulance by 10:00 A.M. that they were going to call the meet.

Well around 9:45 A.M. an ambulance was on site and everyone was excited to get the race going until the wind decided to pick up...........they cancelled the meet at a 11:00 A.M. and we packed it up and headed home.

On a side note the bike was very steady at speed and I did not even notice it was rigid. The bike accelerated hard and the brake worked good. I couldn't of been happier with the overall performance of the bike top to bottom. With some tuning we will be back stronger that ever next year. After my run Cami said to me she was really proud of me for going that speed. I said thanks and didn't think it was such a big deal until she reminded me I had built that bike from top to bottom. That I had turned every nut and bolt and made everything work together.........it was at this point I smiled and thought wow I built this bike and it worked! That was a great feeling..........


Scott

Waiting in tech
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Getting ready to run
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Man, machine and 1.3 miles WFO!
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I'm off!
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Visibilty after the cancelled meet
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Here is how dirty the bike was after one pass
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An end to the season.
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Jetting is tough because of the reversion at WFO. If you jet on a dyno, you can't replicate the effect of the wind rushing by the velocity stack and stealing the fuel that got sucked back in on the dyno.

All that speed is addicting, isn't it??? :)

Jetting is tough because of the reversion at WFO. If you jet on a dyno, you can't replicate the effect of the wind rushing by the velocity stack and stealing the fuel that got sucked back in on the dyno.

All that speed is addicting, isn't it??? :)

It is addicting! Sure would of liked to have made another pass with my jetting changes............oh well. It was fun for about 30 seconds.

Scott

So have you set aside vacation time for the Bubs meet next year yet?


Glad to hear it ran well.

It is addicting! Sure would of liked to have made another pass with my jetting changes............oh well. It was fun for about 30 seconds.

Scott

Speed trials are only slightly better than drag racing in the seat time/$$$ for the investment.

So my one and only pass for the season was 128 mph with a really rich tune in the bike. I made the neccesay jetting changes in hope for a second pass. I felt if the bike ran as good as it did in first, second and third and could do the same in fourth and fifth that It would make a 150 pass with no problems.

Is it more difficult to run on the salt flats? As far as I know the top speed of a rubbermount 1200 sportster is 124 mph and the top speed of a XB12 buell is 130 something mph. However, that's on the street. Do the salt flats present it's own set of challengers to slow that down?

Is it more difficult to run on the salt flats? As far as I know the top speed of a rubbermount 1200 sportster is 124 mph and the top speed of a XB12 buell is 130 something mph. However, that's on the street. Do the salt flats present it's own set of challengers to slow that down?


El Mirage and Bonneville are both at higher elevations. I am at sea level and tuned the bike here. It is a challenge tuning the bike once at a dry lake because of the forever changing conditions in density altitude.

I did not expect to break a record on my first pass, I knew it was a tuning pass to see where the bike was at.........it was rich as I had to give the bike lots of fuel at sea level because of lots of air. Once at El Mirage I knew it was going to be rich and I left it to see exactly how rich as I did not want to be lean. I did this because a typical two day meet like this one you would usually get four passes.

I know the bike will run without a doubt the bike will run in the 150's.

Tuning, gearing, and traction are all big challenges is dry lake bed racing.

Scott

Cbas,
For comparison a Hyabusa that will easily run 185 on the street will only do about 160 at these events. You lose abut 20% of your power at these elevations compared to sea level plus the traction is horrible as well. Our Black Buell makes about 135 hp and it takes everything its got with a very small rider to go 167mph. To break 200 requires at least 200 hp and very good aeros.

Cbas,
For comparison a Hyabusa that will easily run 185 on the street will only do about 160 at these events. You lose abut 20% of your power at these elevations compared to sea level plus the traction is horrible as well. Our Black Buell makes about 135 hp and it takes everything its got with a very small rider to go 167mph. To break 200 requires at least 200 hp and very good aeros.

That's good to know. That means that all those numbers at Bonneville are actually more impressive than they appear. Any idea why they choose that location if it results in lower land speed records?

That's good to know. That means that all those numbers at Bonneville are actually more impressive than they appear. Any idea why they choose that location if it results in lower land speed records?

El Mirage dry lake bed has been home to Land Speed Racing (LSR) for more than half a century. It is located just 30 miles east of a growing high desert community known as the Antelope Valley. Back when Land Speed Racing was young, a group of men that had been racing on the dry lakes for several years, decided to incorporate and create a new racing organization which would enforce safety procedures and promote the sport. Hence the birth of the Southern California Timing Association (SCTA). This year, the SCTA is celebrating its 61th year of LSR activities at the El Mirage dry lake.

Land Speed Racing has always been, and still remains a volunteer sport. All of the various club members, SCTA board members, and all other event workers volunteer their time and energy to the benefit of the sport. Our events are wonderful for families and friends to join together for fun and the excitement that always follows Land Speed Racing.


Bonneville Land Speed Racing is a unique sport that consists of very determined people who drive hot rods, roadsters, belly tankers, lakesters, motorcycles, streamliners, and even diesel trucks to "shoot the salt" in a simple quest to have their name added to the list of many record holders.

Many years ago, the Bonneville Nationals Inc. (BNI) was formed. It's main focus would be to produce the annual "Bonneville Speed Week". The BNI hosts a spectacular week of racing each year in August, which is the highlight event of the LSR season. Speed Week consists of six days of racing (Sat - Fri), weather and conditions permitting. Entrants come from all over the world to participate in the week long event. Spectators are allowed to walk through the pits, view the vehicles, and talk to the drivers and crew members. Public parking is south of the pit area, on the west side of the race track, outside the cones. Be sure to bring a hat, dark glasses, sunscreen and shade from the sun. Don't forget a camera with lots of film/memory/tapes, because you will want to remember everything you see and hear. Binoculars are also a great idea since the race vehicles are at least 1/4 mile away as they travel down the course.

The salt flats are located approximately 88 miles west of Salt Lake City, UT on I 80. The spectacular scenery and racing conditions at Bonneville make it one of the most popular areas in the world for speed.

The colors, excitement, people and smells are some of the reasons we race addicts return to the salt, year after year. Better known as "Salt Fever". CATCH IT!


Where else are we going to be able to set-up a 7+ mile course to legally run at? I think that's why it is done at dry lakes.

Scott

Cbass,
Bonneville is about the only place you can safely run a 11 mile course that is perfectly flat with nothing to get in your way.

Year # 2 here

http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?p=1084566#post1084566

Keep up the good work, it'll get there.