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garman68hd
10th April 2005, 18:48
I'll stick my neck out here..

What separates a chopper from a bobber?

Does a bobber have to have apes?

Is a bobber with dragbars a chopper?

Can a chopper also be a bobber?

Must a chopper have a looong front end to be called a chopper?

Can u chop a bobber? Or bob a chopper?

I'm confused.

Desertfox
10th April 2005, 18:59
Bobber has rear fender chopped off, or "bobbed". Term used generally for old school chopper. No doesn't have to have apes. Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

flathead45
10th April 2005, 19:28
it all mean the same thing...... a custom bike

there are many names for custom cars , guns, women,ect, ect, ect

whats the differance between a garbage barge and a gezzer glide ?

radar
10th April 2005, 19:35
Garbage barges are faster....

gordy
10th April 2005, 20:23
Must a chopper have a looong front end to be called a chopper?


No there are quite a few choppers around without the long front end

earthoverdrive
11th April 2005, 05:50
I think there are bobbers and then there are Bobbers. There are choppers and then there are Choppers. Like there is democracy and there is Democracy.

But really, when someone says bobber I think of a bike with most of the non-essential parts taken off and the fenders cut down or totally removed to make it lighter and faster. This was before inline 4's and 370 lb ricers.

A chopper would be somewhat similar but might have apes, an extended front end, more purty stuff, etc... more for looks and less for speed.

But I've never owned or built either one myself.

Nu Viking
11th April 2005, 06:24
Bobber is a new term as far as I am concerned. My Dad rode since 1945 and was there when chopper was meant as a rude comment towards a bike that had a lot of weight literaly chopped off. I have a collection of custom bike and chopper magazines dateing as old as 1964 and in no place has a motorcyle been referd to as a Bobber till the early 90s The term was chopped and nowadays the term chopper seems to lean towards a frame being cut and modified.

evade49
11th April 2005, 06:36
when i hear bobber i think old school pre 70's and when i here chopper i think of the late 60's and 70's

pilot
11th April 2005, 12:54
You're all wrong...

A bobber is used in fishing to help the lure float, and a chopper is a helicopter, sheeesh. :)

garman68hd
11th April 2005, 13:06
You're all wrong...

A bobber is used in fishing to help the lure float, and a chopper is a helicopter, sheeesh. :)


Nah, sounds fishy to me.

dwardy
11th April 2005, 14:09
Actually both of those terms come from porn movies. I won't go into detail here.


:D :D :D :D

Mark914
12th April 2005, 05:11
chopper is probably the most over used and misused word there is lately........
A chopper is a bike that has had the frame chopped up, welded up, and everything taken off the bike that doesn't absolutely have to be on there to make it run.
Lots of people call my bike a chopper.......but it is not. I guess I would call it a "long bike".
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Ollie
14th April 2005, 03:22
To me the difference between the two is that a bobber doesn't have the stretch and rake of a chopper.

voneville
23rd April 2005, 02:14
The term bobber pre-dates chopper, but chopper has definatley been a household word for a longer period of time. Bobbers and the term bobber was pretty much an obscure foot note in custom motorcycle history until the early 90's, around the same time that nostalgic bare bones hot rods (or rat rods) came back into vouge in California and parts of the east coast. A true bobber wouldn't have ape hangers because they didn't exist until after the post-war era. I have seen pics from the very late 50's with "mild" choppers with ape hangers, but they were really far-out and extreme for their time. Bobbers were pretty much strictly business (like the bikes Lee Marvin's gang rode in the Wild One). Many were modified for scrambles and hill climbs, and that's back when guys rode to the events on their compition bike. Now days "bobber" is becoming a generic term for a hot rod influenced motorcycle. A white wall tire, flat black sporty tank on a rigid frame with Ape Hangers doesn't make a bike a bobber. It does make a cool lookin bike though, and the spirit of the true bobber is definatley there, so I won't cry over semantics. A lot of the new psuedo-bobbers are closer to flat trackers then bobbers. It's more offensive to see a guy with softail and a live to ride air cleaner and matching underoo's refer to his bike as a chopper because he chromed everything that wasn't rubber. To me, you have to chop something up to call it a chopper, otherwise it's a Custom.

-derek

XLFREAK
23rd April 2005, 02:41
Bobber and Chopper...Sounds like Elaina Bobbit's M.O.

Big_Baazzoo
27th April 2005, 07:02
I agree with desertfox...a "bob job" implies "bobbing off" non essential weight, especially at the back end (the back fender and all passenger accommodations)
and a "chopper" refers to an extended front end.

you could have a chopped bobber or a bobbed chopper...or...

voneville
28th April 2005, 06:04
I agree with desertfox...a "bob job" implies "bobbing off" non essential weight, especially at the back end (the back fender and all passenger accommodations)
and a "chopper" refers to an extended front end.

you could have a chopped bobber or a bobbed chopper...or...

This is kind of like the argument of what's the difference between a motor and an engine. It's generally excepted that an engine requires fuel or heat, while a motor is powered by electricity. But there are so many exceptions and holes to this that the world's top engineer's and scientists still can't all agree :) I think the same can be said for bobber and chopper.

-derek