california law on turn signals?

[2003 sporty baum]

does anyone know if its legal to not run front turn signals? the ones on my 03 are big and ugly annd are attatched the the lower triple tree. havnt found a place where they would look better if anyone has any ideas please share them and pics if possible.i want to just get rid of them all together

[CaptBligh]

I think just about anywhere has 30yr exceptions, Cali is probably less, LOL I am probably worng though.

Here ya go.....
http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/laws/result.asp?state=ca

[crospo]

I mounted a small bullet signal to each side of my headlight brow.You have to drill holes in the brow but if you use the lights that have the wiring coming thru the mounting stud all wiring is hidden.Nice clean installation.

[funnythebunny]

Here's the latest laws concerning motorcycles in CA, according to the AMA
http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/laws/result.asp?state=ca

[2003 sporty baum]

thanks guys for the ama link. just what i thought front signals are required by law.but where can i find the signals that mount to the bars?are they offered for an 03?

[CaptBligh]

Do you want them back to the stock location under the signal switches or mounted to the bar?

[2003 sporty baum]

the stock location on my bike witch is an 03 883c was on the lower triple. i would love to put them under the signal switches but i dont think theres a hole for them so ill just go for the bar mount!?

[CaptBligh]

The mounts are there on the switches if they are stock, take it by a dealer and show the parts guy. I am sure they can hook ya up and the parts shouldnt be too costly just for the swivel bar and a hex screw if those are missing.
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/captbligh/turn.jpg

[2003 sporty baum]

thats what im looking for thanks for the pic capt. did hd make any signals smaller than that one?if not its cool i like th placement of those.the one on the triples just are too bulky they jut out so far to each side

[XLXR]

Go to a sport bike or off road bike shop. There are all sorts of very small lights available that you can adapt any way you want.

[JackFrost71]

I was looking in your gallery, maybe you can relocate to the top triple clamp first. I run mine there and it flows better visually (IMO.) You'll have to pull a few inches of wiring back into the headlamp/rat's nest but it's pretty painless.

JF

[funnythebunny]

The mounts are there on the switches if they are stock, take it by a dealer and show the parts guy. I am sure they can hook ya up and the parts shouldnt be too costly just for the swivel bar and a hex screw if those are missing.
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/captbligh/turn.jpg

I'd hate to burst your bubble, the picture you loaded is from a 2006 XL(rubbermount EVO). The handlebar controls were changed in 2004, so the picture does not apply to your 2003 XL, a solidmount EVO.

You can still relocate your turnsignals to the handlebars, but you will need to get the turn signal swivel kit, which is held by the rearview mirror mount nut.
I don't know the original part # but the chromed one is 68185-00.

I can't help but think that the turnsignals were originally mounted to the handlebars, not the forks, so perhaps someone else had already done that previously.

As for smaller lights, are you talking about these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-Haley-Davidson-Dyna-OEM-Turn-Signals-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ330342532925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMo torcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4ce9f3073d&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1171

[CaptBligh]

Its all good and just glad you came along to point that out. Thanks FtB
I'd hate to burst your bubble, the picture you loaded is from a 2006 XL(rubbermount EVO). The handlebar controls were changed in 2004, so the picture does not apply to your 2003 XL, a solidmount EVO.

You can still relocate your turnsignals to the handlebars, but you will need to get the turn signal swivel kit, which is held by the rearview mirror mount nut.
I don't know the original part # but the chromed one is 68185-00.

I can't help but think that the turnsignals were originally mounted to the handlebars, not the forks, so perhaps someone else had already done that previously.

As for smaller lights, are you talking about these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-Haley-Davidson-Dyna-OEM-Turn-Signals-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ330342532925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMo torcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4ce9f3073d&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1171

[2003 sporty baum]

thanks for the link capt. those might just do!funny bunny the 883c from 2003 did come stock with the signals at the lower tree or at least the dealer did it. i have the pics from the first day home and they are the same as now.everyone has been a big help im taking care of this this week ill post pics with what i end up going with

[Gojira]

heres my front turns mounted to my 7" headlight,i have the same turns mounted in the back
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff55/GojiraDOT/front1.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff55/GojiraDOT/rearw.jpg

[CaptBligh]

It may just be the C came that way or could be it was assembled later in the year useing some 04 parts up there. Also go to J&P Cycles and get a catalog, they're free and can give you some ideas on parts.

[2003 sporty baum]

gojira where did you come up on those? they slick lookin!

[Gojira]

ebay of course,they where like 15-20$ a set

[jrwca]

You could move them to the top triple tree and use this kit (http://www.phatperformanceparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2020-0347) to move them in.

Here's my '91 with that kit installed (with smaller, Deuce-style signals). It's not the best pic, but it gives you an idea.

http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/front-signals.JPG

[jrwca]

does anyone know if its legal to not run front turn signals? the ones on my 03 are big and ugly and are attached the the lower triple tree. haven't found a place where they would look better if anyone has any ideas please share them and pics if possible.i want to just get rid of them all together


24951. (a) Any vehicle may be equipped with a lamp-type turn signal system capable of clearly indicating any intention to turn either to the right or to the left.

(b) The following vehicles shall be equipped with a lamp-type turn signal system meeting the requirements of this chapter.
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(4) Motorcycles manufactured and first registered on or after January 1, 1973, except motor-driven cycles whose speed attainable in one mile is 30 miles per hour or less.


24952. A lamp-type turn signal shall be plainly visible and understandable in normal sunlight and at nighttime from a distance of at least 300 feet to the front and rear of the vehicle, except that turn signal lamps on vehicles of a size required to be equipped with clearance lamps shall be visible from a distance of 500 feet during such times.


I truncated those to the applicable sections.

[flashedwards]

Somewhere in the dark portions of my mind I remember (I don't know if this is state or federal) the minimum distance between turn signals is 16 inches...16 inches center to center...I think
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[jrwca]

Somewhere in the dark portions of my mind I remember (I don't know if this is state or federal) the minimum distance between turn signals is 16 inches...16 inches center to center...I think
Flash

This is all I've seen for CA:

24951.
(c) Turn signal lamps on vehicles manufactured on or after January 1, 1969, shall be mounted not lower than 15 inches.


Of course, I'm not an expert.