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BonRu 11th April 2005, 22:46 Riding Saturday with a few friends - 6 bikes in all. We were riding in very tight formation, in semi-heavy traffic down Galveston Seawall (anyone that knows the area knows it's like rush hour traffic at 35 mph). A guy in a car wants over because his lane isn't going fast enough, he signals, and then slowly comes over on top of us bikes as if we're not even there, and he's looking at us the whole time. We're honking and trying to get out of his way, and he just keeps coming - forcing us to move out and let him in. So there he is, right in the middle of our formation, and after a little bit decided the other lane was going faster to his liking, and moved back over. It wasn't even like he needed to turn or anything. WTF??? You know how bad I wanted to kick his A$$! Nothing we can do about it but vent. So I'm venting! :censor :censor :censor :censor
mikeLI_77 11th April 2005, 23:17 get yourself one of these tuck it in your saddle bag then if you have a problem you speed ahead and put it out when they pass you.
http://www.chiefsupply.com/images/magnum-spike-truck.jpg
lol. i also saw these little triangle shaped things that no matter how they land they will have a sharp point sticking up and it will deflate the tire when it runs over it(bad thing about this one is they fly all over the place if you miss there car the car or whatever behind that car could get it). great to keep in the jacket pocket. just kidding. wish we could do this. most cagers don't pay any attention to what they are doing. there to busy on the phone or thinking about something or eating or putting on the makeup they don't pay any attention. the best is when they are staring dead at you and it still does not comprehend in there mind what is going on. seems like it just gets worse and worse. everyone's in a rush even if they don't have to be. they do what they want to do and they know there is almost nothing you could do about it. And even if you do something about it like catch them at the next light and beat them senseless you're going to be the one going to jail and getting sued for mental anguish and facial reconstruction and god knows whatever else these damn lawyers will think up next. there have been a few threads about this lately. if it were up to me i would have a bike setup like james bond's car with missles that shoot out of the pegs and all sorts of stuff so i could blow these pieces of crap right off the road.
GOTWA 11th April 2005, 23:20 Another example of why I can't stand the overwhelming majority of people.
And beyond the obvious safety issue, is the flat ass self serving rudeness! I hate rude behavior and seems to be manifesting itself on the roads so much lately. The whole "my life is more important than your life so I'm going to do whatever I want because I am me" attitude. Zipping in and out of traffic, not letting folks merge, speeding down a closed lane to get ahead of the cars that actually moved over when they were supposed to, oh and parking :censor sideways and taking up three spots so no one gets close to their 43" rimmed Honda Civic!!!! Drives me frickin' nuts.
I used to get bad road rage before there was ever the term. I've settled down a lot now but EVERY time I drive/ride I end up talking to myself and telling myself to calm down.
Yesterday on my ride to work, I'm behind a lady and we're waiting at a turn light. Intersection is six lanes on all sides so the turn is long and wide. Traffic is stacked up and there is a big line behind me. I can see through the back window that she is just yacking away to the passenger and using a ton of hand motions to tell her story.
So light turns green and she bolts out into the intersection. We all begin to follow. But about mid-way through the turn, she resumes her story telling, takes both hands off the wheel, and apperantly her foot off the gas, and starts laughing and looking at the passenger. Obviously story time is way more important than driving. She goes from like 15mph to 5 and drifts into the center of the lanes so I have no frickin clue where to go. I'm trying to bring my bike back up level and there is a huge line of cars piling up on my fender.
I layed on my horn (whimpy as it is) and she jerked her back over and got on the gas. I rolled on the throttle and got on her passenger side. The window was down and I couldn't help myself. I yelled, "Drive your :censoring car you dumb :censor !
GGGRRRRR! I think there should be special times set aside where only I and my like minded compadres can be allowed outdoors!
Okay, I'm better now... :o
barry1967 11th April 2005, 23:26 Carry D size batteries in your coat pocket. They make a mess of whatever they come in contact with.
Yeah, maybe it's a shitty thing to do but it sure makes me feel better :D
xllent01 11th April 2005, 23:27 This is what i did about a month ago to some young punk
who cut me off.
Riding down a divided highway last weekend minding
my own buiness, and following a full size truck in the right
lane no less. The truck gets over to the left lane, and he is following
3 other cars. I decided to pass all 3 in the right hand lane cause
it was clear and nobody ahead. The punk all of a sudden decides
he wants my lane and decides he wants to pass all 3 cars too.:yikes
This puts me in a unwanted situation of hugging the white line
and getting on the horn, so this punk in his daddy's full size truck
relizes that i'm right next to him being forced off the road. So we
get up to the next light and stop. He rolls down the window and i
ask him if he saw or heard me next to him. He responds hell no.
I tell him he needs to look before he kills someone next time.
Meanwhile his little girl friend is sitting there laughing like nothing ever happened. This just adds fuel to the fire.
Light turns green and they roll up the window and proceed to take off
and get up to speed. Here i am trying to think of a way to get back at
them and spot the rear view mirror. So i let them get ahead a little bit
and i roll on the gas and get as close to the punk's truck as i can. As i
come up next to the truck at about 45 mph i hold out my arm and stiff arm
the mirror and to my amazement the mirror snaps right off, and dangles
by all the power wires going to it.
All in all, now he really has an EXCUSE NOT to see any bikers coming up
along side him trying to pass him. :laugh
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GOTWA 11th April 2005, 23:38 This is what i did about a month ago to some young punk
who cut me off.
Riding down a divided highway last weekend minding
my own buiness, and following a full size truck in the right
lane no less. The truck gets over to the left lane, and he is following
3 other cars. I decided to pass all 3 in the right hand lane cause
it was clear and nobody ahead. The punk all of a sudden decides
he wants my lane and decides he wants to pass all 3 cars too.:yikes
This puts me in a unwanted situation of hugging the white line
and getting on the horn, so this punk in his daddy's full size truck
relizes that i'm right next to him being forced off the road. So we
get up to the next light and stop. He rolls down the window and i
ask him if he saw or heard me next to him. He responds hell no.
I tell him he needs to look before he kills someone next time.
Meanwhile his little girl friend is sitting there laughing like nothing ever happened. This just adds fuel to the fire.
Light turns green and they roll up the window and proceed to take off
and get up to speed. Here i am trying to think of a way to get back at
them and spot the rear view mirror. So i let them get ahead a little bit
and i roll on the gas and get as close to the punk's truck as i can. As i
come up next to the truck at about 45 mph i hold out my arm and stiff arm
the mirror and to my amazement the mirror snaps right off, and dangles
by all the power wires going to it.
All in all, now he really has an excuse not to see any bikers coming up
along side him trying to pass him. :laugh
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Oh man, just reading that calmed my nerves!
Hey Barry, ForensicSgt posted somewhere about carrying marbles. Effective and shatter on contact. My thing is, I just don't want to mess up anyone else's vehicle or create a further safety hazard for others.
Where did I see a bike that had a loop with a ballpeen hammer hanging in it? One of those Discovery shows, maybe Jesse's. Anyway, I think about that all the time.
Swamp Fox 11th April 2005, 23:49 A friend of mine commutes to work daily in a Ford Courier pickup. He was telling me one day this guy cut him off in order to get into his lane since the line of traffic was shorter. But of course, the guy had to slam on brakes to keep from hitting the car in front of him. So my buddy then had to slam on brakes too. Happens all the time. But anyway, just by chance, my friend had stopped at the supermarket on the way home from work to pick up some stuff, including a dozen eggs. So while they were waiting for the light to change, he let a few eggs sail over his hood onto the jerk's car. The other guy never said a word...
Eggs do a little less damage than batteries, but definitely are harder to carry on a bike. Now if only someone came up with a magnetic egg carton for the gas tank.....
barry1967 11th April 2005, 23:51 . My thing is, I just don't want to mess up anyone else's vehicle or create a further safety hazard for others.
They are saved only for those who REALLY deserve it ;)
midnitewolf 12th April 2005, 00:11 Riding Saturday with a few friends - 6 bikes in all. We were riding in very tight formation, in semi-heavy traffic down Galveston Seawall (anyone that knows the area knows it's like rush hour traffic at 35 mph). A guy in a car wants over because his lane isn't going fast enough, he signals, and then slowly comes over on top of us bikes as if we're not even there, and he's looking at us the whole time. We're honking and trying to get out of his way, and he just keeps coming - forcing us to move out and let him in. So there he is, right in the middle of our formation, and after a little bit decided the other lane was going faster to his liking, and moved back over. It wasn't even like he needed to turn or anything. WTF??? You know how bad I wanted to kick his A$$! Nothing we can do about it but vent. So I'm venting! :censor :censor :censor :censor
There is nothing one can do , It is a known fact that a**holes are blind
and uncaring about people and things .
The only thing you can do is hope you survive the encounter and not let it ruin the rest of your day .
But if your paths do meet where your face to face then you :headb
BonRu 12th April 2005, 00:11 Thanks guys! Your posts made me laugh out loud - especially the stiff arming the rearview mirror! Classic!! :laugh :clap :laugh I know everyone has the same experiences, whether in a car or out. I cannot stand discourteous drivers either; even when I'm not on my bike; and although I'd love to chuck a handfull of marbles or batteries or ballbearings, I'd be afraid some unsuspecting biker buddy would come along and find them. So until I can think of something to make me feel as good as the stiff-arming the mirror, I'll have to stick with venting to you guys! :D Thanks for listening and adding! I just got home from a 40 minute drive in Houston traffic; I needed the laugh!!
xena 12th April 2005, 00:18 I think someone needs to invent some telescoping axle spikes. Sharp ones. Spikes that extend a few feet at the touch of a button. Stick the tire of the perp, and leave em in the dust with a flat. I don't like wrecking other peoples property either, but if someone is going to try and kill ya then they deserve whatever comes to them.
barry1967 12th April 2005, 00:20 Well, we could ride naked. That would deffinately get you noticed :flasher
willprevale 12th April 2005, 00:24 [b]at about 45 mph i hold out my arm and stiff arm
the mirror and to my amazement the mirror snaps right off, and dangles
by all the power wires going to it.
So while they were waiting for the light to change, he let a few eggs sail over his hood onto the jerk's car
I've had fantasies like that myself but it's not a good idea to carry thru with it. Somewhere, somehow, some hapless lone biker will pay for that and never know why. Cagers ALWAYS win in the long run.
Better you should thank the powers that be that it wasn't worse and let it go.
xllent01 12th April 2005, 00:24 So until I can think of something to make me feel as good as the stiff-arming the mirror, I'll have to stick with venting to you guys! :D Thanks for listening and adding!
Makes for a real stress reliever when faced with a heated moment.
Do i practice this option everyday? No, only when i'm forced into it.
Either that or it's a size 12 in the quarter panel. Thought that stiff
arming would fit the punishment.:yikes
One of the many stickers on my helmet
http://www.helmet-stickers.com/xcart/skin1/thumbs/t_2084.gif
Loco 12th April 2005, 00:26 This is what i did about a month ago to some young punk
who cut me off.
Riding down a divided highway last weekend minding
my own buiness, and following a full size truck in the right
lane no less. The truck gets over to the left lane, and he is following
3 other cars. I decided to pass all 3 in the right hand lane cause
it was clear and nobody ahead. The punk all of a sudden decides
he wants my lane and decides he wants to pass all 3 cars too.:yikes
This puts me in a unwanted situation of hugging the white line
and getting on the horn, so this punk in his daddy's full size truck
relizes that i'm right next to him being forced off the road. So we
get up to the next light and stop. He rolls down the window and i
ask him if he saw or heard me next to him. He responds hell no.
I tell him he needs to look before he kills someone next time.
Meanwhile his little girl friend is sitting there laughing like nothing ever happened. This just adds fuel to the fire.
Light turns green and they roll up the window and proceed to take off
and get up to speed. Here i am trying to think of a way to get back at
them and spot the rear view mirror. So i let them get ahead a little bit
and i roll on the gas and get as close to the punk's truck as i can. As i
come up next to the truck at about 45 mph i hold out my arm and stiff arm
the mirror and to my amazement the mirror snaps right off, and dangles
by all the power wires going to it.
All in all, now he really has an excuse not to see any bikers coming up
along side him trying to pass him. :laugh __________________
Hammers and would pull them out and smash a mirror or a window out back in the day. Steel marbles are always cool.
:smoke
JetEngineMech 12th April 2005, 00:39 You could always throw something STINKY into the car (use your imagination). It wouldn't affect any other vehicles on the road either.
GOTWA 12th April 2005, 00:40 I've had fantasies like that myself but it's not a good idea to carry thru with it. Somewhere, somehow, some hapless lone biker will pay for that and never know why. Cagers ALWAYS win in the long run.
Will, you have no idea how many times I say that to myself when I'm out there.
BonRu 12th April 2005, 01:22 You could always throw something STINKY into the car (use your imagination). It wouldn't affect any other vehicles on the road either.
:laugh :laugh :laugh Okay, so how often are you riding around with "something STINKY?" :laugh :laugh :laugh The sound of that just cracks me up!!!
You know, one time when I was out riding my horse, there was a whole group of us crossing a road. I was on my young App, and he just had shoes for the first time and we were out getting used to the feel on the pavement. A jackass in a small truck pulled right up into the middle of us (about 9 horses and riders), and he began honking like a total ass. It scared the heck out of all of us, but most of all - it scared my young horse (who was huge and strong), so he did the only thing instinct taught him to do; he swung his butt around to the offending attacker and started kicking like crazy. After about 5 dents, I was "able" to calm him down and pull him away. The shocked driver didn't know what to do so he just sat there and wait until we were across the road. It's amazing the damage a new pair of shoes can cause when worn by the right individual. :D I wish my Sporty could get away with that.
Broncodog 12th April 2005, 01:26 Stinky................hmmmmmmmmmm ya have a horse, some saddlebags....................Stink ta go! ;)
pquirk 12th April 2005, 01:48 I've had fantasies like that myself but it's not a good idea to carry thru with it. Somewhere, somehow, some hapless lone biker will pay for that and never know why. Cagers ALWAYS win in the long run.
Better you should thank the powers that be that it wasn't worse and let it go.Yup. When I was younger I used to kick car doors and spit on windshields, but somewhere along the line I learned to put it all in perspective. Will's absolutely right.
ForensicSgt 12th April 2005, 02:30 deleted to avoid repetition. Didn't see Gotwa's reprisal of an earlier statement I'd made :)
cantolina 12th April 2005, 02:32 You can't become more visible to the blind...
All ya can do is be more aware, and more careful...
JetEngineMech 12th April 2005, 02:37 Okay, so how often are you riding around with "something STINKY?" The sound of that just cracks me up!!!
So I haven't worked out all the details... :laugh
That's an awesome story, it would've been great to see the insurance adjuster's face! :yikes
:clap
Edster 12th April 2005, 03:01 I'm active duty USN and we have to wear a road worker vest at all time. I just recieved icon's new MIL-SPEC vest. It looks cool compared to the norm. But I have been in a few near misses even w/ the vest on (either or). I figure I've had fewer because I'm in Japan where there is a larger ratio of bikes on the road than cars. The Japanes are more "biker aware" . Most serious was a fellow American who tried to cut me off (you can lane split in Japan.) I went around the other way and he moved the other way. To make matters even worse I know the guy!! But worse tha that is one of the little scooters (50cc) (usually ridden by youngsters and lil ol ladies) tryin to squeez between me and the curb when I am already 'tween the curb and a cage. Some even pop out and see ya comin at the same time. Scooter riders and bikers are totally different. To sum it up some folks just don't care even when they do see ya. :frownthre
txsporty 12th April 2005, 03:06 Little steel Bearings, always gets peoples heads out of there Ass's!!! :D
Broncodog 12th April 2005, 03:12 Little steel Bearings, always gets peoples heads out of there Ass's!!! :D
:yikes Yer a evil man Mike!.......................... :laugh I like I like :D
txsporty 12th April 2005, 03:58 :yikes Yer a evil man Mike!.......................... :laugh I like I like :D
Nobody has ever said that I was a Good person!!! :yikes
82ndJumper 12th April 2005, 04:23 I ran my house keys down the side of an SUV that some lady was driving, of course after she cut me off while on the cell and putting on make-up. She tried to catch up to me but that didnt happen.
BonRu 12th April 2005, 04:34 I ran my house keys down the side of an SUV that some lady was driving, of course after she cut me off while on the cell and putting on make-up. She tried to catch up to me but that didnt happen.
I admire you! :D I chucked a metal tube of lipstick at a Lincoln Navigator once, and nailed it, if that counts for anything. :laugh
cantolina 12th April 2005, 04:45 I ran my house keys down the side of an SUV that some lady was driving, of course after she cut me off while on the cell and putting on make-up. She tried to catch up to me but that didnt happen.
See, if you do it RIGHT, they don't even notice....
Amazing what they DO notice, though, ainnit?
Darhawk 12th April 2005, 05:06 I won't tell you what I used to do, cause I don't want it on my conscience should one of you do it and then get killed over it. But, with age comes wisdom, and now I simply slow down and let the sob pass or cut in.....I just stay vigilent and react accordingly........which is what Willyp was saying. P*ssing someone in a 4000 pound vehicle off, especially a person in a bad mood to begin with, is never a winning hand when it's car versus bike.
cantolina 12th April 2005, 05:15 I won't tell you what I used to do, cause I don't want it on my conscience should one of you do it and then get killed over it. But, with age comes wisdom, and now I simply slow down and let the sob pass or cut in.....I just stay vigilent and react accordingly........which is what Willyp was saying. P*ssing someone in a 4000 pound vehicle off, especially a person in a bad mood to begin with, is never a winning hand when it's car versus bike.
Still bein' "the kid", I got some piss and vinegar left in me yet.....I don't act on it much, but I can see the possibilities.....
I'm tryin to get in another frame of mind....more like the idea you and Dad pronounce......Its hard to do, though....I'll admit....
Loco 13th April 2005, 17:12 Riding Saturday with a few friends - 6 bikes in all. We were riding in very tight formation, in semi-heavy traffic down Galveston Seawall (anyone that knows the area knows it's like rush hour traffic at 35 mph). A guy in a car wants over because his lane isn't going fast enough, he signals, and then slowly comes over on top of us bikes as if we're not even there, and he's looking at us the whole time. We're honking and trying to get out of his way, and he just keeps coming - forcing us to move out and let him in. So there he is, right in the middle of our formation, and after a little bit decided the other lane was going faster to his liking, and moved back over. It wasn't even like he needed to turn or anything. WTF??? You know how bad I wanted to kick his A$$! Nothing we can do about it but vent. So I'm venting! :censor :censor :censor :censor
This bitch decided to squeeze into our formation. We had 8 riders and knowhere to really go! But that didn't stop her. Instead of being patient for us all to pass (would have been seconds) to merge over, she forced 4 of our group to evade her. It was an ugly scene because we trapped her in for the most part and she missed her exit. We left her behind. Some people just suck period! In hindsight it was the wrong move to trap her but it worked out.
She was scared shitless and for good reason. Two of my compadre's ride with a well known MC and were sporting thier colors and they verbally educated her.
:smoke
BonRu 13th April 2005, 17:26 we trapped her in for the most part and she missed her exit.
Justice!!! :clap :clap :clap
dwardy 13th April 2005, 18:41 I know a guy that keeps a peanut butter bomb with him on his bike. He breaks off the base of a light bulb, fills it with peanut butter, and duct tapes the end shut.
Anytime a cager forces a "close call" on him, he whips that bomb right in the middle of their windshield. It explodes on contact and leaves a helluva mess that the wipers won't even touch.
DustyJacket 13th April 2005, 19:19 I know a guy that keeps a peanut butter bomb with him on his bike. He breaks off the base of a light bulb, fills it with peanut butter, and duct tapes the end shut.
Anytime a cager forces a "close call" on him, he whips that bomb right in the middle of their windshield. It explodes on contact and leaves a helluva mess that the wipers won't even touch.
Unfortunately, any "revenge" taken out on a cager may come back to bite the next rider they encounter. Why let anger control you, and possibly doom the next rider the cager encounters? Who wins, then?
dave 13th April 2005, 20:26 Unfortunately, any "revenge" taken out on a cager may come back to bite the next rider they encounter. Why let anger control you, and possibly doom the next rider the cager encounters? Who wins, then?
I consider all these "cager revenge" topics absolutely delightful to dream about, but reality is different - I don't *really* want to hurt anybody or encourage an already less than perfect relatiionship between cagers and motorcyclists.
Well.... Unless they really deserve it!! :)
Alasportster 13th April 2005, 21:30 As Ricardo Montalban playing Khan said to William Shatner in one of the Star Trek movies, "there is a Kligon phrase 'Revenge is a dish best served cold' ".
Whenever some a hole in a cage screws up my serenity, I just follow until there's no chance for an unpiloted vehicle to harm anyone else, then concentrate a little and vaporize him or her.
You mean I'm the only one who does this ????? Huh
mikeLI_77 13th April 2005, 21:53 how about some paintballs. they are about the size of marbles and will explode on the windshield on contact if moving. they will fit in your pocket as long as you don't squeeze the pocket you have them in you'll be fine.
BonRu 13th April 2005, 21:56 I just shake my head :frownthre and picture them naked. :yikes
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