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5-string 12th August 2009, 15:53 :rolleyes:Saw an ad for Dyna Beads, little ceramic balls you pour inside a tubeless tire, and SHAZZAAM, the tires balance themselves. They require no outside weights, adjust themselves as the tire wears.
I know it's hard to believe, but I've actually seen some ads for MC stuff that were sort of exaggerated.:doh
Sooooo.....,
Anybody use them?
How do they work?
Would you recommend them.
Cosmo Kramer 12th August 2009, 15:57 Sooooo.....,
Anybody use them?
How do they work?
Would you recommend them.
Yes!...I use them. I had my new Metzlers installed by an Indy and he recommended them....so I figured why not. I've put about 2k miles on them and have been at cruizing speeds of 75-80 mph for 1.5 hours (3.3 gallon tank :doh) without any problems. I have no vibration whatsoever at any speed and so far I would recommend them. Not too mention I am all for getting rid of those ugly as:censor wheel weights! Just my opinion...
Jt1200r 12th August 2009, 16:00 as long as theyre not used anal beade
henry p ratas 12th August 2009, 22:10 Had them put on by my indy after purchasing tires from them GREAT!
BadHabit 13th August 2009, 00:43 Fantastic product...Can't use them in a rim with an intertube but for a mag they rock...Stay balanced for the life of the tire!
Cosmo Kramer 13th August 2009, 02:09 Can't use them in a rim with an intertube but for a mag they rock...Stay balanced for the life of the tire!
Badhabit, I have them in my intertube. They just remove the schrader valve and dump them in. The plus side is they will always be there as long as the intertube doesn't get punctured. So next time I get a tire put on I have a chance of not having to pay for them again.
Mbagger 13th August 2009, 05:32 Been using them on my Road King for the last 45k miles. They work great.
I'm going to be putting them in my 883 this weekend.
94Sporty 13th August 2009, 05:59 Been running them for several years now in a tubed tire with no problems. When I first started using them, I tried a little experiment. First went for a ride with the normally balanced tire. Came home, and removed the wheel weights and went for another ride over the same route. Then came back home and put the Dyna Beads in and repeated the ride. Couldn't tell the difference in any of the three rides. But I run the beads anyway as kind of insurance, and I don't like the wheel weights they use on spoke wheels. Roger
pattywagon 13th August 2009, 06:07 Been a tire man for 25 yrs they also make another product called (Equal) it is a powder somewhat like black pepper, maybe a little finer, works well in 18 wheeler tires. Can be found at most major sized truck tire shops.
flashedwards 13th August 2009, 06:17 Interesting..how many ounces (or whatever) would you put in a late model ('09) Sportster? Front and rear the same? How do you get them off the internet?
Thank you,
Flash
Mbagger 13th August 2009, 17:04 Interesting..how many ounces (or whatever) would you put in a late model ('09) Sportster? Front and rear the same? How do you get them off the internet?
Thank you,
Flash
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/chart.htm#MotorcycleChart
That link will show you how many ounces for different size tires.
I just call the toll free number (listed in the link above) and order over the phone. I have never got their shopping cart to work right when trying to order online.
jimmyess333 14th August 2009, 01:37 Interesting, but what does the inside of the tire and rim look like when you change the tire?
Does it weather the rim or tire from abrasion?
Does it get all gummed up?
Mbagger 14th August 2009, 04:13 Interesting, but what does the inside of the tire and rim look like when you change the tire?
Does it weather the rim or tire from abrasion?
Does it get all gummed up?
I have not noticed any unusual wear on wheel or tire.
The dyna beads are ceramic...nothing will get gummy unless you put something gummy in the tire.
xraytoken 19th August 2009, 02:35 I've used them in two of my Sportsters, so far so good.
preacher8 19th August 2009, 02:40 I have them in my two new Avon tires. They seem to working just fine.
scotty-j 6th September 2009, 04:47 i have been unhappy with the feel of the front tire at highway speed, so i'll be giving these a try real soon.
the company states that they can be used with tubed or tubeless tires. whether in cars, trucks or bikes.
taken from the faq page.
" Can I use Dyna Beads in tires with inner tubes?
Absolutely! The inside of an inner tube is perfectly smooth, the ideal surface for Dyna Beads. We strongly advise using new inner tubes before installing Dyna Beads. This applies to motorcycles as well. The reason is that old inner tubes often have accumulations of compressor oil, which makes the inside tacky or sticky, which will inhibit Dyna Beads from working properly, or not at all. "
using the tire width chart it appears that all sporties will use the kit #DBS-BP2 $12.50
motorcycle page
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/motorcycle.htm
how much to use per tire
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/chart.htm#MotorcycleChart
faq
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/news.htm
how it works
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/HowItWorks.htm
installation
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/service.htm
where to buy ?
dealer search http://www.innovativebalancing.com/search.php
web sales http://www.innovativebalancing.com/gallery1.htm
Mi_XL 7th September 2009, 18:01 I now have two cents to add, my bike came from HD with wheel weights stuck on with tape front and back. I kept throwing the rear one, last time it lasted less than 100 dry miles at 55-60 mph, the original front ones were still on. I also kept loosing psi like crazy on the days I was going over high mountain passes.
I read up on things here on the forum and decided I wanted to go with beads and nitrogen. I did a search on the website and it turned out the HD dealership around the corner was a reseller of Dyna Beads. I took my bike in Friday and asked for beads/nitrogen front/back, the particular mechanic I talked to suggest a spoke weight for the tubed front tire so I went with that combo and picked it up late that night.
Sat/Sun I rode it 1200 miles to Sturgis, a full lap around the Black Hills, and back. I was curious if I would notice a difference high speed, low speed, on the rumble strips, big bumps, etc. I did notice a difference, it was much better in every scenario. This makes me wonder how many of those first 4k miles I actually had my rear tire in balance.
At the end of the weekend I have two tires in balance and properly inflated. This is well worth 70$ to me if I don't have to keep dinking with them.
5-string 9th September 2009, 17:04 Mi XL, that's the first real "evidence" I've heard to get these critters. Thanks. It may well be worth a shot.
5-string 9th September 2009, 17:20 Found the Acid Test, proof-of-the-pudding, seeing-is-believing video on YouTube, and it's pretty convincing. Hard to argue, and it shows how the beads work. Pretty cool physics demonstration.
See what you think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq263AYgyYg
Cosmo Kramer 9th September 2009, 18:26 Found the Acid Test, proof-of-the-pudding, seeing-is-believing video on YouTube, and it's pretty convincing. Hard to argue, and it shows how the beads work. Pretty cool physics demonstration.
See what you think:
Yeah...the indy shop who put mine in did the same demo. Physics wise...it makes sense and so far on my bike the theory works just as well.
scotty-j 10th September 2009, 00:33 just placed my order a minute ago on their website... WOOT WOOT :clap
3 oz of beads (1 for front and 2 for rear) and an application bottle and s/h came to $21.00
maybe i'll be happy with the ride of the bike now and decide to keep it ?
let ya know when i get them installed and test it out.
Mi_XL 10th September 2009, 01:46 Well as long as nobody is confusing Dyna Beads with the second coming of Jesus or anything :) My bike was out of balance and under inflated for most of it's first 4k miles, if you are running proper psi and your weights are attached the beads shouldn't make any difference on the ride. Now if you have some really cool rims that look like hell with ugly weights on them, now that's another story.
5-string, awesome vid thanks for posting it. I was trying to explain beads to a few guys who just weren't getting it, now I'll just send them the link instead.
Scotty, hope you like em as much as I do!
5-string 15th September 2009, 03:27 Why does there always have to be a "rest of the story"???
Why is the diameter of the rear whel on a cast tubless wheel have to be microscopic?
Front - beads went in in about 10 minutes.
Rear - Not sure if they will fit at all? ?$#$#?!!
I notices this when I had the tire off during the change, the inside diameter is remarkably smaller than the valve stem.
Not sure if the dyna beads will actually FIT inside that valve stem. Thought about trying to place them one-at-a-time into the valvestem, but I'm afraid that shotgun urge might rear its ugly head again!
Anybody had any luck with the beads in a rear tubless / cast wheel?
Mi_XL 16th September 2009, 05:05 Bummer man. The dealer said they pulled my rear tire off to put the beads in.
kilroykarr 16th September 2009, 23:38 Front - beads went in in about 10 minutes.
Rear - Not sure if they will fit at all? ?$#$#?!!
Not sure if the dyna beads will actually FIT inside that valve stem. Thought about trying to place them one-at-a-time into the valvestem, but I'm afraid that shotgun urge might rear its ugly head again!
Anybody had any luck with the beads in a rear tubless / cast wheel?
Just got new tires and I put in some of these beads today!:D
No more wheel weights for me, I also have been using Nitro for a few years.
My front tire always seems to cup no matter what brand i use. So it will be interesting to see if this one does with the beads in.
As for having a problem putting the beads in i didn't. I found the rear to be tricky because of the angle of the tire valve but i just leaned the bike over and worked good. Took about 5 min to get all the beads in.
merc 17th September 2009, 00:36 they loook like they would work, watching that demo. Kind of makes sense. I am all for anything that will smooth out your ride.
Don Burton 1st March 2010, 05:14 I can't view the video for some reason but I have a question. For a slightly out of round tire, what keeps centrifugal force from throwing the beads to the high side thus making the balance even worse?
5-string 1st March 2010, 16:00 Never used them on an out-of-round situation. It may depend on the "roundness" of the inner surface of the tire. If the outside of the tire were teh problem, it probably wouldn't matter. ....... Gonna cost about $30 to answer that question for sure.
Misfittom138 1st March 2010, 19:20 I've been running something similar in my super swamper tires on my jeep for awhile. Works awesome on the jeep, I imagine it will be the same when I try them on the bike. Have wheels ready to take in this week. :tour
Josparkz 14th March 2010, 06:09 I just got a new back tire today and the place did it up with nitro and balance beads. I was a little leery of it, but it would have been about another 75 miles in the snow to drive to the next place that had a decent price for the tire. I'll find out soon.
racerwill 14th March 2010, 06:40 the beads work about as well as balancing by letting the tire slowly rotate on the axle and looking for the heavy spot..... which is close enough for most people..... if they were as good as a computerized dynamic balance, they would put it on a balancer and show us the zeros, but you will never see that
Nitrogen works exactly as good as air, regardless of what any un-informed Nitrogen salesman tells you..... Nitrogen is used in aircraft tires because it won't support combustion and aircraft tires do catch fire sometimes.... motorcycle and auto tires don't
but the beads do work as well as the balance you get at most motorcycle shops (1950's technology).
Ww
RacingJake 14th March 2010, 16:55 Yeap and Sporties don't fly 65,000 feet above the ground :)
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