Aug 10-14 will be a ride around Lake Ontario, Anyones invited to join, on any bike.
We will start on Fri. to allow the Michigan riders a day to get near Buffalo as that will make a great starting point.

After that its open for suggestion on clockwise - counter clockwise and I hope Steve and Mick will be joining us and can set up the northern rt.

All thats needed now is some plans on where to meet and who's going :tour

The best part about any trip is the ride everything else will work out :banana

Is Mrs. OTD going on the trip?

I'm in, and already have the time off of work!

When is TO traffic ususally the worst? Would it be better if we go into TO on a Friday night (I'm thinking that everyone might be heading out of town?) or should we try to hit it midday on a weekday?

When is TO traffic ususally the worst? Would it be better if we go into TO on a Friday night (I'm thinking that everyone might be heading out of town?) or should we try to hit it midday on a weekday?

Friday night traffic is bad in Toronto, in or out. Midday is the best. Weekends are ok for the most part.

Ok so that probably means we need to go counterclockwise, eh?

Is Mrs. OTD going on the trip?

I'm in, and already have the time off of work!

yes she is going.

If Toronto present a problem we can go around it or I'll check with a local HOG chapter about an escort through the city. They usually can get permission with the local cops to block traffic at major intersections if theres enough riders.

When is TO traffic ususally the worst? Would it be better if we go into TO on a Friday night (I'm thinking that everyone might be heading out of town?) or should we try to hit it midday on a weekday?

TO traffic is best between 2AM and 215AM IF there is no closure on ANY of the freeways.


I cant make it, my vacation is 2 weeks before.

Ok so that probably means we need to go counterclockwise, eh?

IMHO that would be the best direction to go.

Friday night would be somewhere in NY... somewhere east of Rochester.. maybe Sodus or Oswego depending on start time from Buffalo or Lewiston area and route. We could do 104 from Lewiston to Rochester and along Lake Road east of Rochester. From Lewiston to Rochester is about 2 hours. From Rochester to Sodus is over an hour. Maybe staying Friday night in or near Rochester might be more reasonable.

Saturday night could be in Kingston, just over on the Canadian side... then through Toronto on Sunday midday, perhaps stopping at the Beaches in Toronto for a nice break.. arriving in Niagara Sunday evening... then back home on Monday for those going further west.

Note: stopping in Toronto for a break at the Beaches depends on how many bikes we have.. parking can be an issue on the weekends there.

I know I wont be able to make it for the whole ride. But Will be able to catch part of the route... once everythings figured out, I will be sure to attend some portion of the ride...

Fri. nite in Rochester is too long a ride for the Michigan riders. Buffalo would be a long ride but doable. Rochester by noon Sat. would be more manageable

Fri. nite in Rochester is too long a ride for the Michigan riders. Buffalo would be a long ride but doable. Rochester by noon Sat. would be more manageable
Ok. Leaving Buffalo on Saturday and taking the scenic route along 104 and Lake Rd will still get us to Kingston Ontario for Saturday night.

I'm in. I will have to make sure its okay with my client but since its over 2 months out it shouldn't be a problem.

Here we go again!

Wont be able to make this one....I go to Watkins Glen for the week every year for the Nascar Race...which is on the 12th of Aug.

Ok. Leaving Buffalo on Saturday and taking the scenic route along 104 and Lake Rd will still get us to Kingston Ontario for Saturday night.

That would be riding counter clockwise, which puts us in Toronto sun afternoon?

That would work, Ohio and Mich. riders could stay at the same hojo in Oh and make it home mon.

Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make this go-around. August is a very busy time for the family. Hope you guys have a safe trip and I'm sure you're gonna have a blast.

Have a beer for me, if you would,
Mike

Fri. nite in Rochester is too long a ride for the Michigan riders. Buffalo would be a long ride but doable. Rochester by noon Sat. would be more manageable

Yeah....I'm thinkin Buffalo, or just a little south/west of there....Hamburg or so?

I can hook up a hotel around there....then under the lake (maybe the Canadians can join US this time! :) ) and around...TBD...Second day's gonna have to be a bear!

Yeah....I'm thinkin Buffalo, or just a little south/west of there....Hamburg or so?

I can hook up a hotel around there....then under the lake (maybe the Canadians can join US this time! :) ) and around...TBD...Second day's gonna have to be a bear!

That's right about the second day. You'll need to take off early that day.. no lollygagging about at the breakfast table. We could probably spend the night in Watertown NY and still make Toronto at a decent time.

The Ohio posse has already said there in. That would be Danny, Joe, Nancy Dave, Steve, Me & the wife. :banapart


Now we need to hear from the meechigan riders and the Eskimos:D

We could probably spend the night in Watertown NY and still make Toronto at a decent time.

No we need to get Shark Doc. across the bridge ASAP lol

Just to clarify, I don't think Dave is going to make this run so it will be me solo-maybe I can borrow his BT, whaddya think?????

Just to clarify, I don't think Dave is going to make this run so it will be me solo-maybe I can borrow his BT, whaddya think?????

Bikerchick with big twins.

I like :smoke

FYI Parking in Toronto for Motorcycles is free.

http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?mo=ma&1gi=0&un=m&go=1&1c=Niagara+Falls&1g=qrM8eJdKqzgC0X3Iuib0cA%253d%253d&1l=eBoBD9KOLZixaWGqkQXVWA%253d%253d&2c=Watertown&1da=-1.000000&1rc=A5XAX&cl=EN&1n=Niagara+County&2g=gbp%252fHGJsZdexRx%252bVoNo8LQ%253d%253d&qq=1ADqpk24ofA3Czd6YQeQJQ%252fVskPKdW5e%252fWvzCLD LcQdxHvDsHLzpp08WPnshm%252fdj3o7l3OAN6q0lxwP%252f2 sx0Hu67tnkCLr4Z2NhAAqXvnHCbQIaNfTjLXxGhUj1bUoXjmp8 f6trMl7WabR95ldLTvzRUBYucQJiX0%252b640maIkHpaK2wrA GWeXTqBHay38BIWfXCln2on3cFRwg5tQ7MQ%252f7E2MRuAtVA D&1s=NY&2l=px%252b0xziLMo10nNVwpo2rrA%253d%253d&ct=NA&1v=CITY&1y=US&1si=gaz&2s=NY&2v=CITY&did=1180399626&2y=US&rsres=1&do=nw&r=f&aoh=1&aot=1&aos=1

Niagara Falls to Watertown is 5-6 hours drive....another hour to the border?

About the same back to Toronto....maybe a bit more....

http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?mo=ma&1gi=0&un=m&go=1&1c=Niagara+Falls&1g=qrM8eJdKqzgC0X3Iuib0cA%253d%253d&1l=eBoBD9KOLZixaWGqkQXVWA%253d%253d&2c=Watertown&1da=-1.000000&1rc=A5XAX&cl=EN&1n=Niagara+County&2g=gbp%252fHGJsZdexRx%252bVoNo8LQ%253d%253d&qq=1ADqpk24ofA3Czd6YQeQJQ%252fVskPKdW5e%252fWvzCLD LcQdxHvDsHLzpp08WPnshm%252fdj3o7l3OAN6q0lxwP%252f2 sx0Hu67tnkCLr4Z2NhAAqXvnHCbQIaNfTjLXxGhUj1bUoXjmp8 f6trMl7WabR95ldLTvzRUBYucQJiX0%252b640maIkHpaK2wrA GWeXTqBHay38BIWfXCln2on3cFRwg5tQ7MQ%252f7E2MRuAtVA D&1s=NY&2l=px%252b0xziLMo10nNVwpo2rrA%253d%253d&ct=NA&1v=CITY&1y=US&1si=gaz&2s=NY&2v=CITY&did=1180399626&2y=US&rsres=1&do=nw&r=f&aoh=1&aot=1&aos=1

Niagara Falls to Watertown is 5-6 hours drive....another hour to the border?

About the same back to Toronto....maybe a bit more....

We make the run through Toronto on Sunday the Ohio and Meechigan riders can ride like the wind and be across the north part of lake erie to the ferry back to Ohio or to Windsor for the nite.
That makes mon. a walk in in the park to make it home.

OK. So it's no secret that I have a problem with bridges... And the Thousand Islands bridges are actually the cause of this (I would elaborate if I was sufficiently wasted!).

So, I have an alternative suggestion to the crossing at I-81 in NY to Canada... Might actually even save some time, too.

If you look at a map of NY, you'll see to the west of where I-81 crosses into Canada the town of Cape Vincent. To the north is Wolfe Island, an area known for snowy owls, among other things, and to the north of that, Kingston, Ontario where we plan to spend an evening I guess.

It just so happens that there is a cheap ferry from Cape Vincent to Wolfe Island and then a FREE ferry from Wolfe Island to Kingston.

If we did this route,

1. We could stay along the lake for a better ride heading east and north,
2. We could shave off some time
3. We could see some very scenic island sights,
4. I could keep my breakfast down.

Just looking for alternatives. (NOTE: I would probably do this anyway and just meet everyone in Kingston once we decide on a place to stay.)

Any thoughts?

I wonder how many bikes those ferries can hold at once?

I'm good with this idea because I really don't need to see SD's regurgitated breakfast

So just to make sure I have this right (as my boss is bugging me to confirm vacation time ASAP):

Friday: Michigan -> Buffalo
Saturday: Buffalo -> Kingston
Sunday: Kingston -> Ft. Erie

Is that the plan so far?

I think that is the plan!

I wonder how many bikes those ferries can hold at once?
If there is any support for this route, I'll call and find out and see if we can make reservations or if they're even necessary...

Look: you guys are probably scared of sharks. I'm not.

But bridges? Damn. Put me under the water, not over it!

If there is any support for this route, I'll call and find out and see if we can make reservations or if they're even necessary...

Look: you guys are probably scared of sharks. I'm not.

But bridges? Damn. Put me under the water, not over it!

A guy who plays with sharks doesn't like bridges. Go figure! LOL I'd like to hear that story.

I just may join you on your ferry ride; the last one was pretty neat. I found a link to one of them, I think. Schedule is pretty good -- leaves every hour.

http://www.wolfeisland.com/ferry.php

Someone at work took the ferry(s) to Kingston once, saved her a 7-hour wait on the bridge.

Ok. Leaving Buffalo on Saturday and taking the scenic route along 104 and Lake Rd will still get us to Kingston Ontario for Saturday night.
Scenic for Western NY would be head up from Buffalo to Lewiston along the Niagara river, then take Rt 18 to Rochester. It would be nice to take the parkway but the western end (Debsters house to Hamlin beach) is like a washboard. Then from Rochester 104 to RedCreek then 104A to Oswego, back onto 104 to NewHaven then 104B to Rt 3 then up to Clayton or where ever the ferry is on Rt 3.

Alternatively you could take a more southern route from Buffalo along Rt 20 maybe passing the north end of a few of the finger lakes, then head up to Lake Ontario near Seneca Falls to RedCreek and the same as above.

Thing is you don't get to see any of the lake along Rt 104. Rt 18 on the west end will put you near the lake in a few places. Then 104A and Rt 3 at the east end will let you see some water.

Or were you talking lake road east of rochester? That's a nice road.

Gazza

A guy who plays with sharks doesn't like bridges. Go figure! LOL I'd like to hear that story. I just may join you on your ferry ride; the last one was pretty neat. I found a link to one of them, I think. Schedule is pretty good -- leaves every hour.

http://www.wolfeisland.com/ferry.php

Someone at work took the ferry(s) to Kingston once, saved her a 7-hour wait on the bridge.
I talked to them this afternoon. No problem getting on the ferry: just show up. No reservations required (or taken!). Can easily handle up to 50 bikes!!! $7 for the ride. No tie-downs necessary (as some of us know, they can be required by some ferries). He said the island and Kingston were biker-friendly.

I've actually started work on another book, but this one just a tad different than the others. This will be a photo essay on a biker's view of small ferries of Americana, or "How to Travel America by Motorcycle and Avoid Puking Over Bridge Railings." (Title needs some work.)

The neatest one I took was 150' long and is pulled across a small stream by a cable.

I talked to them this afternoon. No problem getting on the ferry: just show up. No reservations required (or taken!). Can easily handle up to 50 bikes!!! $7 for the ride. No tie-downs necessary (as some of us know, they can be required by some ferries). He said the island and Kingston were biker-friendly.
Sounds good! Great price, too. Thanks for checking it out.

I've actually started work on another book, but this one just a tad different than the others. This will be a photo essay on a biker's view of small ferries of Americana, or "How to Travel America by Motorcycle and Avoid Puking Over Bridge Railings." (Title needs some work.)
:roflblack :roflblack :roflblack

The ferry sounds awesome and I would use the savings from the Ferry price to pay for the story from SD as to WHY he loathes bridges...

The ferry works for me. Looks to be a better scenic route too. Friday will be a long ride 345 miles from Columbus to Niagara Falls. All payment pounding. Let me know if anyone wants to meet up along the way Friday. Also where we are going to meet up at Niagara.

Scenic for Western NY would be head up from Buffalo to Lewiston along the Niagara river, then take Rt 18 to Rochester. It would be nice to take the parkway but the western end (Debsters house to Hamlin beach) is like a washboard. Then from Rochester 104 to RedCreek then 104A to Oswego, back onto 104 to NewHaven then 104B to Rt 3 then up to Clayton or where ever the ferry is on Rt 3.

Alternatively you could take a more southern route from Buffalo along Rt 20 maybe passing the north end of a few of the finger lakes, then head up to Lake Ontario near Seneca Falls to RedCreek and the same as above.

Thing is you don't get to see any of the lake along Rt 104. Rt 18 on the west end will put you near the lake in a few places. Then 104A and Rt 3 at the east end will let you see some water.

Or were you talking lake road east of rochester? That's a nice road.

Gazza
All sounds good.. I was referring to Lake Rd between Webster and Sodus Bay. That is a nice ride, and Sodus Bay has the outdoor restaurant deck and ice cream etc., and the beach at the lake. But that would be if time permits. 104 is faster.

I also like the idea of taking the ferry.

SteveK I will meet up with you and ride up to Niagara- Mr and Mrs OTD will probably join us

SteveK I will meet up with you and ride up to Niagara- Mr and Mrs OTD will probably join us

Thanks, I was hoping I could meet up with you and/or Mr and Mrs OTD. Wasn't sure when you would be heading east. Since It will take about 2hrs for me to get up where you will get onto I71 or I90.

As the date gets closer just let me know what your plans are. I am taking the Friday off and the rest of the following week.

SteveK I will meet up with you and ride up to Niagara- Mr and Mrs OTD will probably join us
I'll prob roll in the night before and join up with OTD/Dar and y'all and ride across with the pack.

I assume the plan will be to ride through to Buffalo on Friday as the thread has proposed?

-J

Shark, are you the itinerary guy for this trip?

Shark, are you the itinerary guy for this trip?
Not really. It appears somewhere back in the thread, but sure looks like fun. You and Joe gonna go?

I guess it plays out something like this: (and anyone should feel free to correct this!)

Thurs - head to Cleveland (for some of us)

Fri - head to Buffalo from Cleveland.

Sat - head into Canada via lake roads leading to a ferry in NY for crossing to Kingston, Ontario.

Sun - back through Ontario, maybe some crossing at Buffalo, some others heading through Ontario and maybe catching the ferry across the lake (Erie) to Sandusky.

Mon - home for those who don't go all the way home Sun.


Don't know who all is going. haven't heard much of anything from most of the Canadians ('cept Casper), so don't know how many "regulars" will be aboard. (Hope they ALL will be!!!)

Not really. It appears somewhere back in the thread, but sure looks like fun. You and Joe gonna go?

I guess it plays out something like this: (and anyone should feel free to correct this!)

Thurs - head to Cleveland (for some of us)

Fri - head to Buffalo from Cleveland.

Sat - head into Canada via lake roads leading to a ferry in NY for crossing to Kingston, Ontario.

Sun - back through Ontario, maybe some crossing at Buffalo, some others heading through Ontario and maybe catching the ferry across the lake (Erie) to Sandusky.

Mon - home for those who don't go all the way home Sun.


Don't know who all is going. haven't heard much of anything from most of the Canadians ('cept Casper), so don't know how many "regulars" will be aboard. (Hope they ALL will be!!!)


Doc, love the way you set the intenery for the ride and what more need to be said?

Everyone have there cell phones where they can be heard and we'll give 10 min. notice that where coming through just fall in somewhere.

Aug 10th we get to see Bikerchick big twins :D :D :D

on edit> Iron Mick is going, he just not been told yet. LOL

Though still two months 'til the trip, we will need someone to scout out Beefalo to find a place to stay Friday night and someone to find quarters for Saturday night in/around Kingston. Also will need good restaurants to get together in both cities. The "ideal" find would be a place that has a small separate room so we could be a little isolated and not bother other folks...

Motel doesn't have to be particularly elaborate, but not a dumpster dive either.

Who would volunteer for NY and who for Canada?

(OTD: I think Mick is "in" for this trip, too. Haven't heard from Steve and Joan, but Mick could rattle their cages if necessary.)

I-90 East to Rochester turn left cross river turn left.

Food? theres a Timmys on every corner

Sleep ? while were on the move! :roflblack :sporty:

Sleep ? while were on the move! :roflblack :sporty:

I would've thought sleeping on the ferry.

I was just snooping around the Kingston Ontario website and found this motel- currency conversion is $35 US

http://www.all-hotels.com/super8/canada/ontario/kingston_e1.htm
What do you think?
If we have a head count I can call and see if they will give us a discount

Here is something else we can do while we are in Kingston:

August 10-12
20th Annual Kingston Sheep Dog Trials


Over 100 of North America's top trial competitors will celebrate the 20th annual Kingston Sheep Dog Trial, Canada's largest Sheep Dog Trials. Trials run from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. daily. The event offers a variety of side attractions (Birds of Prey demos, Sheep Shearing demos, the Time Bandits Canine Games, Jungle Cat World, Bear the Tinker, to name a few), food concessions, a craft and artisans fair, kids activity area and much more.

Sponsorship opportunities available.

Abrams Brothers Concert at noon on Friday, August 10.

Find more information about the Kingston Sheep Dog Trials on this Web site.

Location: Grass Creek Park
Tel: 613-546-4291 ext. 1706

Can you tell I am trying to get this thread going again????

I was just snooping around the Kingston Ontario website and found this motel- currency conversion is $35 US

http://www.all-hotels.com/super8/canada/ontario/kingston_e1.htm
What do you think?
If we have a head count I can call and see if they will give us a discount
Count me in for at least one room, maybe two if I can get my friend to join us.

-J

I was just snooping around the Kingston Ontario website and found this motel- currency conversion is $35 US

http://www.all-hotels.com/super8/canada/ontario/kingston_e1.htm
What do you think?
If we have a head count I can call and see if they will give us a discount

That looks like a good place to me, too. Count me in.

Ooooo, sheep dog trials! I love those. That would be fun if there's time to do it.

I was just snooping around the Kingston Ontario website and found this motel- currency conversion is $35 US

http://www.all-hotels.com/super8/canada/ontario/kingston_e1.htm
What do you think?
If we have a head count I can call and see if they will give us a discount

Count me in. Vacation has already been planned :)

Just came back from Canada and the exchange rate is 4%, not very favorable
Plus they have the GST tax and other motel taxes. a room that was $99 actually cost $122 american.

I checked that link and the price was $42 per person or $112 for 2 people. So :censor

We need to find a small mom and pop motel that excepts cash :D or look into a a block of rooms with a great discount. Or If the Super 8 is all good with everyone I can find another motel

BTW-- Cleveland to Buffalo took 3:40 to ride on I-90
Also just stayed in Batavia NY which is approx. 20 east of Buffalo and a king room cost $50 for the nite at a Best western

We need some reservations soon as rooms will be hard to get and cost a premium if we wait much longer. The Niagra Falls tourist crowds will be in full swing at that time.

Also just stayed in Batavia NY which is approx. 20 east of Buffalo and a king room cost $50 for the nite at a Best western

You shoulda called me! I'm just north of there, and you could've had my spare room for free.

For all those coming from points west we could ride into Rhochester for the nite and stay at Motel 6
http://www.motel6.com/ms/select-stay.do

I like the rates and it only about a 5 hr. ride from the Cleveland Area. We could then join up in Webster NY at the park Sat morning with the rest of the group.

You shoulda called me! I'm just north of there, and you could've had my spare room for free.

Now you tell me :D

I think Mike and I (and maybe one more) will ride to Cleveland the night before, then ride with you and Dar, if she has the time off (and Danny & Joe?), to Rochester (or wherever).

Will that work?

I think Mike and I (and maybe one more) will ride to Cleveland the night before, then ride with you and Dar, if she has the time off (and Danny & Joe?), to Rochester (or wherever).

Will that work?

Works for me

We would have to meet Steve and could do that at the ponderosa in brunswick and then hit the freeway north to cleveland and meet Danny and Joe and head west on
I- 90
Maybe bikerchick could meet us someplace along I-90 and I think that would get the whole western contigent heading east.


Does the Rochester area for Friday nite stay work for everyone????

Does the Rochester area for Friday nite stay work for everyone????
Works for me...

Your plan for meeting up with everyone sounds good.

We need to get some input into this thread. Everyone go walkabout?

what the heck is walkabout?

what the heck is walkabout?
Checked out.

Comes from Australia where disappearing for awhile to find oneself is common and natural. It has come to mean roughly the equivalent of AWOL, or where the hell is everyone?!




(With apologies to our friends from Down Under who could better clarify the original meaning!)

OK I got it- maybe we just have to punt with our lodging- another idea is that Gananoque is very close to Kingston- should we look there for cheaper lodging
Hey OTD good catch on the room rates!

I would like to join the ride someplace on the US side. When the itinerary is finalized and posted I'll be better able to say where. I would likely pick up the group in the Rochester area and go as far as Watertown. (That is if the ride goes counter clockwise).

Works for me

We would have to meet Steve and could do that at the ponderosa in brunswick and then hit the freeway north to cleveland and meet Danny and Joe and head west on
I- 90
Maybe bikerchick could meet us someplace along I-90 and I think that would get the whole western contigent heading east.


Does the Rochester area for Friday nite stay work for everyone????

Works for me. Just let me know what time you plan to ride through Brunswick. I'll be there :D

Me too- can't wait- I want to RIDE!!!!

There are plenty of motels along highway 2 through and near Kingston, similar to the types we stayed at in Delhi. I have stayed there a few years ago. The trick is in finding these on the Net.

I picked up one of those free coupon books on the NY thruway last wk. They have coupons for motels through out the area and at some great savings.

Trouble is the one I picked up expires at the end of June. But they have a Days Inn listed in Kingston for $69 a nite singe or $79 a nite for a double

The # is 613-546-3661 if anyone from the area wants to give them a call and see if they will honor the rates for Sat. nite the 18th

Then we need one more room for sun. nite around Buffalo or between Buffalo and Erie

I can meet up with everyone in Rochester Saturday a.m. (I'm about 50 minutes west of there.)

The 18th??? I thought this run was the weekend of the 11th! Is it really the next weekend? :eek:

Aug 10-14 will be a ride around Lake Ontario, Anyones invited to join, on any bike.
We will start on Fri. to allow the Michigan riders a day to get near Buffalo as that will make a great starting point.

After that its open for suggestion on clockwise - counter clockwise and I hope Steve and Mick will be joining us and can set up the northern rt.

All thats needed now is some plans on where to meet and who's going :tour

The best part about any trip is the ride everything else will work out :banana
This was the first quote in the thread. I thought this was still the date as well...

Did it change?

I think OTD has been out in the sun too long! He has his dates mixed up in August- it is the weekend of the 11th and 12th

I think OTD has been out in the sun too long! He has his dates mixed up in August- it is the weekend of the 11th and 12th

Whoops! :doh
Wrong week, but at least I got the month right :clap
It is the weekend of the 11th and 12th

A friend of mine told me about a couple motels in the Rochester suburbs. This one on Rt. 104 starts @ $38/night (Spencerport is 5 mi. east of Rochester):

Friendly Motel (http://friendlymotel.net/)

This one in Webster starts at $37.72/night (9 mi. NE of Rochester):

Hi-Way Rest Motel (http://www.hiwayrestmotel.com/ourrooms/)

Just wanted to pass the info along.

Thanks Debster!!!!

The time is soon approaching for departure so we need some confirmations on who is DEFINATLY going to make the ride.

And anyone from michigan or Ohio whos interested in a differnt route home its possable that we can still book the ferry across lake Erie from Leamington Ont. to Sandusky Oh.

That would eliminate the buffalo route on the return trip. We could stay in London ON. for the nite and visit with Steve and Mick :smoke

Friday nite arounnd Rhochester ferry over to Kingston on saturday nite and find motel there and London for Sunday nite. We could then ferry across the lake on Monday and go are seperate ways from there.

Thoughts, comments?

A quick note to anyone interested, the ferry across lake erie still has room for a few bikes and departs Kingston at 10:00 AM monday morning for Sandusky.

If your interested you should make reservations ASAP as they do book up fast in thwe summer.

The time is soon approaching for departure so we need some confirmations on who is DEFINATLY going to make the ride.

And anyone from michigan or Ohio whos interested in a differnt route home its possable that we can still book the ferry across lake Erie from Leamington Ont. to Sandusky Oh.

That would eliminate the buffalo route on the return trip. We could stay in London ON. for the nite and visit with Steve and Mick :smoke

Friday nite arounnd Rhochester ferry over to Kingston on saturday nite and find motel there and London for Sunday nite. We could then ferry across the lake on Monday and go are seperate ways from there.

Thoughts, comments?
I'm in for the ride.

We need to hear from our Canadian friends... Where are y'all? I know the Sportster "Bruce" ride is this week. How about chiming in when you get back so we know if y'all are joining us when we cross.

IronMick?
Force50?
Casper?

Pretty soon we'll need to know for sure who will be joining so we can make plans that consider everyone's thoughts.

-Jeff

I am in for sure. Not sure about the ferry crossing on Monday morning. Isn't that a pretty long ride Monday morning from London to Kingston?

What is the number to book a spot on the ferry?

I am in for sure. Not sure about the ferry crossing on Monday morning. Isn't that a pretty long ride Monday morning from London to Kingston?

What is the number to book a spot on the ferry?
Mapquest says 105 miles - 2 hr 5 min.

Should be an easy run.

Ferry leaves at ? (noon?)?

Mapquest says 105 miles - 2 hr 5 min.

Should be an easy run.

Ferry leaves at ? (noon?)?

If its noon that would be easy. I thought olderthandirt posted a departure time of 10am. That would be getting on the road by 8am, or even before. Certainly can do, but we would need to get up and get on the road.

I am up for the ferry if there will be a group going back through Canada. Let me know and get me the phone number to book the reservation. I am taking Friday and the next week off, so I have the time :)

I'm in.

I'm thinking I can meet everyone in Rochester for breakfast on Sat. morning & ride with the group from there. I'll be cutting off to complete the Ontario circuit south toward Buffalo instead of going west to London with the MI/OH folks.

Are we just going to just wing it & follow whatever roads hug the lakeshore, and stop for gas/meals wherever along the way?

I'm in for the ride and for the ferry- Thanks for the VM OTD- can you book me please? Thanks!!!

A quick note to anyone interested, the ferry across lake erie still has room for a few bikes and departs Kingston at 10:00 AM monday morning for Sandusky.

If your interested you should make reservations ASAP as they do book up fast in thwe summer.

Okay here is where I got confused... The Kingston ON ferry were is the US departure point for this ferry? This would be for Saturday at 10am? What number can I call to book this ferry?

Also what is the number to book the ferry ride from Leamington ON to Sandusky OH? This would be for Monday around noon? What number can I call to book this ferry?

And are these the correct ferry crossing dates and times?

Thanks,
Steve

Okay here is where I got confused... The Kingston ON ferry were is the US departure point for this ferry? This would be for Saturday at 10am? What number can I call to book this ferry?

Also what is the number to book the ferry ride from Leamington ON to Sandusky OH? This would be for Monday around noon? What number can I call to book this ferry?

And are these the correct ferry crossing dates and times?

Thanks,
Steve
A slight mistake: the ferry to Kingston needs no reservation; we'll go when we get there.

The ferry from Leamington to Sandusky leaves at 1000. Phone number is 800-661-2220 for reservation for Monday the 13th... We'll have to leave London EARLY - 6 a.m. or so - to make the one hour before departure deadline. REMEMBER YOUR PASSPORT OR ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!

As far as I know, you, Mac, Nancy, Mike (a friend of mine), and I will be crossing.

-J

Okay here is where I got confused... The Kingston ON ferry were is the US departure point for this ferry? This would be for Saturday at 10am? What number can I call to book this ferry?

Also what is the number to book the ferry ride from Leamington ON to Sandusky OH? This would be for Monday around noon? What number can I call to book this ferry?

And are these the correct ferry crossing dates and times?

Thanks,
Steve

Steve, from the sounds of it you're wanting to go around the lake clockwise -- there isn't a U.S. ferry departure; you'll be riding the ferry back into the U.S. like we did on the Lake Erie run.

We're going around Ontario counterclockwise. Ohio to Buffalo to Rochester to Kingston, & west thru Canada, etc. (At least that's my understanding -- correct me if I'm wrong guys!)

Never mind, Steve, I read your note wrong. :doh :doh

A slight mistake: the ferry to Kingston needs no reservation; we'll go when we get there.

The ferry from Leamington to Sandusky leaves at 1000. Phone number is 800-661-2220 for reservation for Monday the 13th... We'll have to leave London EARLY - 6 a.m. or so - to make the one hour before departure deadline. REMEMBER YOUR PASSPORT OR ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!

As far as I know, you, Mac, Nancy, Mike (a friend of mine), and I will be crossing.

-J

Thanks SD. I tried to call but they are only open from 8am to 6pm. I'll call to make the reservation tomorrow morning.

The ferry back home leaves from kingsville On. 10:00 am monday Aug 13th

Its not leaving from Leamington this time of yr. Kingsville is 10 minutes farther west.
So it will be lunch at Damons on Monday :banana :banana
Happy Dance Time :laugh

Mac, is Dar making the trip, too?

Mac, is Dar making the trip, too?

Don't know if she's riding her bike or riding with me but she is comming along

A friend of mine told me about a couple motels in the Rochester suburbs. This one on Rt. 104 starts @ $38/night (Spencerport is 5 mi. east of Rochester):

Friendly Motel (http://friendlymotel.net/)

This one in Webster starts at $37.72/night (9 mi. NE of Rochester):

Hi-Way Rest Motel (http://www.hiwayrestmotel.com/ourrooms/)

Just wanted to pass the info along.

I contacted the owner of this motel and below is his reply.
It sounds like a good place to me to spend the nite.

Thank you for your interest in Friendly Motel. We do have rooms
available for August 10th.

Single Rooms (1 Double Bed) are $38
Double Rooms (2 Double Beds) are $50

All rates are based on double occupancy. If we are to accomodate
more than 2 persons per room we charge an additional fee of $2 per
person.

If you have any other questions, concersns, or would like to
reserve
rooms you can respond to this email address or call (585) 352-3785. I
will be on vacation from July 5th to July 16th, so any emails sent
during that time frame will not be answered, sorry. Friendly Motel
will
be open throughout those dates, if you wish to contact us during those

dates it will have to be via Telephone, again sorry.

Sincerely,
John Lodge
Owner
Friendly Motel
4670 Ridge Road West
Spencerport NY 14559 (585) 352-3785

I'll be staying there if any one else is as cheap as me :D

Don't know if she's riding her bike or riding with me but she is comming along

Great! Glad to hear it. And I vote for Dar to bring her bike! :tour

OK. I think this is fleshing itself out a bit more. Here is what I think is happening:

THURS - Michigan riders (and anyone else interested) ride to GENEVA, OH for the usual HoJo.

FRI - Mac & Dar, SteveK, and Nancy (and others?) meet us in Geneva and we ride to Rochester, picking up others (Danny? Joe?) en route. Overnight at the FRIENDLY MOTEL.

SAT - pick up Debster, Oakies (?), Canroc, and others (?) and ride toward east end of Lake. Catch the ferry and cross to KINGSTON where (hopefully we meet up with Canadians). (NOTE: we need a motel in Kingston),

SUN - ride to ???. Some will cross and go home via Buffalo. Some will go to London for the overnight. (NOTE: we (Mac, Dar, Carol, and I) stayed at a good motel in London last summer and I can look that info up if folks are interested?)

MON - ride to Lake Erie and take ferry across to Sandusky, then all head their own way home...

Sound close?

-Jeff

That sounds like an excellent plan to me.

I even know where the Friendly Motel is, so I can ride there Sat. morning and join everyone for breakfast.

Oakies won't be on this trip -- he'll be in Watkins Glen for the races.

I have 5 rooms reserved at the Friendly Motel for Friday Nite. ! double and 4 singles with double beds.

I'll be using 1 room, Jeff will take 1, Mike will take one and Nancy will take one
That leaves 1 room open for Steve if he wants it.

Mick its up to you and Steve to get your lazy azzes down to Kingston and "guide" us to London where we will be spending the nite being entertained and fed the best Canadian meal by ya'll.
I would like to place an order for 8, 1-1/2 # porter house steaks, baked potatoes and fresh garden vegetables.
I want to thank you in advance for the meal and your hospitality

Edit> Jeff make the reservations in London for us if you would please.

Edit> Jeff make the reservations in London for us if you would please.
Done.

Five rooms at the Comfort Inn... unfortunately not as cheap as Mac found: $90. All have queen size beds, non-smoking. W can change any of this if anyone so wishes. And they have a barber/stylist on staff... :p

PM me if I need to change any of this... and who else needs a room?

I am assuming Mac & Dar, Mike, SteveK, Nancy, and I. Anyone else?

-Jeff

The reservations at the Friendly Motel Friday night and Comfort Inn Saturday night are both fine with me.

The Friday ride from Columbus to the Friendly Motel is a 6 hour ride. Mac: what time are you planning getting into the Bruswick area and heading up I90?

The reservations at the Friendly Motel Friday night and Comfort Inn Saturday night are both fine with me.

The Friday ride from Columbus to the Friendly Motel is a 6 hour ride. Mac: what time are you planning getting into the Bruswick area and heading up I90?

Not sure yet Steve, We might stay near Geneva Friday nite and join the rest for dinner and beverages. But will let you know as soon as I get a phone call returned.

And here I thought men could not make arrangements (KIDDING!!!) I love you guys for making this happen- sounds great!

Don't forget me.

I'll either met you guys east of Rochester somewhere along Lake Road or maybe I'll stay at my parents Friday night and come to Spencerport with Debster (they live about 5 miles down the road from her). I'm only going as far as the ferry then head back home from there Saturday

What time are you all leaving Spencerport Saturday morning?

Gazza

You're certainly welcome to cruise with me to Spencerport if you decide to go to your parents. It'll be great to finally meet you! Will you be finished with Dog Breath by then?

Maybe, if I don't have any problems pop up.

Gazza

Maybe, if I don't have any problems pop up.

Gazza

I'm not EVEN gonna comment....

:shhhh

Its getting closer to the time and we need a consensus on who is defiantly going and who is going to wimp out.

Its looking like we'll be joining Shark Doc and Mike and any other meechigan riders for dinner and drinks Thursday nite

Are Danny & Joe in?

Have you heard from IronMick or Force 50 or any Canadians?

I am in. Have a reservation for ferry back from Canada to the US. No other reservations for lodging. Vacation is planned for Fri Aug 11th through the next week.

Was wondering when this thread was going to float back up to the top again :)

Are Danny & Joe in?

Have you heard from IronMick or Force 50 or any Canadians?

Danny said there not going to make this ride

And not 1 of those mother canucker have said a word. :sofa

We only need resevations around Kingston for Sat. nite, and someone mentioned taking a ferry to Kingston? Do we need reservations for it? are we taking it? is there a ferry to kingston?

I'm in! And I know Debster is too- where are ya'll meeting Thursday nite?

once my ride is together I will be up for the canadian side of the trip...

once my ride is together I will be up for the canadian side of the trip...


Cool, it will be good to meet you!

I'm in! And I know Debster is too- where are ya'll meeting Thursday nite?

I think the meechigan riders are staying at the HO-JO in Geneva, were staying at a relative that lives 10 min. away :banana :smoke
So we'll meet in the parking lot or I'll get some info on some better reasterants for dinner

Count me IN! :tour

We only need resevations around Kingston for Sat. nite, and someone mentioned taking a ferry to Kingston? Do we need reservations for it? are we taking it? is there a ferry to kingston?

Mac, here's a post from Shark Doctor about the Kingston ferry:

I talked to them this afternoon. No problem getting on the ferry: just show up. No reservations required (or taken!). Can easily handle up to 50 bikes!!! $7 for the ride. No tie-downs necessary (as some of us know, they can be required by some ferries). He said the island and Kingston were biker-friendly.

SteveK - Friday is the 10th!!!


HoJo in Geneva for Thursday night: 440-466-1168...

Mike and I will be there.

They have only a few rooms left, so book soon if that's where you'll stay. Let us know so we can all have dinner together.

Mac- will you and Dar be coming to dinner?

-J

Booked a room at the HoJo for Thursday night (Aug 9th). Since I work Thursday I wont be leaving Columbus until around 6pm, so I doubt I get in till around 9pm.

Mac- will you and Dar be coming to dinner?

Planning on it, my niece lives real close and has suggested some good restaurants that we could eat at. But Dars working so we won't get there till about 7:00-7:30

Is C and B along for the ride?

Suggestion for dinner in Rochester: Dinosaur Barbeque - the bikes will fit right in.
What route are you taking Rochester to the ferry?

OK. I think this is fleshing itself out a bit more. Here is what I think is happening:

THURS - Michigan riders (and anyone else interested) ride to GENEVA, OH for the usual HoJo.

FRI - Mac & Dar, SteveK, and Nancy (and others?) meet us in Geneva and we ride to Rochester, picking up others (Danny? Joe?) en route. Overnight at the FRIENDLY MOTEL.

SAT - pick up Debster, Oakies (?), Canroc, and others (?) and ride toward east end of Lake. Catch the ferry and cross to KINGSTON where (hopefully we meet up with Canadians). (NOTE: we need a motel in Kingston),

SUN - ride to ???. Some will cross and go home via Buffalo. Some will go to London for the overnight. (NOTE: we (Mac, Dar, Carol, and I) stayed at a good motel in London last summer and I can look that info up if folks are interested?)

MON - ride to Lake Erie and take ferry across to Sandusky, then all head their own way home...

Sound close?

-Jeff

Jeff were you able to scope out accommodation's at the motel in London? Anyone have any info on a place in Kingston or are we going to wing it?

Jeff were you able to scope out accommodation's at the motel in London? Anyone have any info on a place in Kingston or are we going to wing it?
As far as I know, we're winging it in Kingston.

I reserved 4 rooms at COMFORT INN in London, close to where we stayed last year. I think I booked for Mike, myself, Mac and Dar, and Nancy and Deb (sharing). If we need to alter any of that, let's do so. Just let me know and I can add more rooms to the reservations I already have, one for you, and one each for Nancy and Deb if they don't want to share. Anyone else? Let me know soon so we don't get shut out.

Phone: 519-685-9300

As far as I know, we're winging it in Kingston.

I reserved 4 rooms at COMFORT INN in London, close to where we stayed last year. I think I booked for Mike, myself, Mac and Dar, and Nancy and Deb (sharing). If we need to alter any of that, let's do so. Just let me know and I can add more rooms to the reservations I already have, one for you, and one each for Nancy and Deb if they don't want to share. Anyone else? Let me know soon so we don't get shut out.

Phone: 519-685-9300

Jeff, I'm not going as far as London. I'll be heading down to Buffalo then east back home. So Nancy will be all by herself in her room in London.

Only 2-1/2 weeks to go!!!

FYI -- Here's a page of Kingston hotels/motels. Some of the prices aren't bad at all.

http://www.kingstonhotels.worldweb.com/index.html

As far as I know, we're winging it in Kingston.

I reserved 4 rooms at COMFORT INN in London, close to where we stayed last year. I think I booked for Mike, myself, Mac and Dar, and Nancy and Deb (sharing). If we need to alter any of that, let's do so. Just let me know and I can add more rooms to the reservations I already have, one for you, and one each for Nancy and Deb if they don't want to share. Anyone else? Let me know soon so we don't get shut out.

Phone: 519-685-9300

If you can reserve an extra room at the Comfort Inn in London it would be appreciated. I plan to ride to London and already have a reservation on the Ferry back to Sandusky on Monday.

Thanks.

If you can reserve an extra room at the Comfort Inn in London it would be appreciated. I plan to ride to London and already have a reservation on the Ferry back to Sandusky on Monday.

Thanks.
I took care of it this morning, so you're all set.

Now IF we could just get the Canadians to ante up!!!

-J

FYI -- Here's a page of Kingston hotels/motels. Some of the prices aren't bad at all.

http://www.kingstonhotels.worldweb.com/index.html
RATES: (these are individual rates; we could do better on a group rate, but since we are ABSOLUTELY clueless on how many are joining, a group reservation is ridiculous!)

I have maps for all of these:

RATES for a queen size or two double beds (tax not included in the rates below):

-Best Western: $129.50
-Holiday Inn: $209

-Highland Motel 5: $74 for a dbl bed; $79 for 2 dbl beds

-Super 8: $85.50 (either a single or a dbl)
-Comfort Inn: $109 single; $119 dbl
-Thriftlodge Kingston East: $89 single; $114 dbl

There are others, but you see the trends.

Highland Motel 5?

Better let me know pretty quickly so we can either all book individually or try for a block if any of these seems appealing...

-Jeff

MAPQUEST says London is 276 miles from Kingston via the 401.

Just FYI.

I wish I could make this run... Sadly I will have to work :( Hope you all have a great time, ride safe!

OK. I went back through everything and this is what I have put together... Correct this and I'll keep revising until we're ready to go.
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THURS - Michigan riders (and anyone else interested) ride to GENEVA, OH for the usual HoJo: 440-466-1168.

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FRI - Mac & Dar, SteveK, and Nancy (and others?) meet us in Geneva and we ride to Rochester, picking up others) en route. Overnight at the FRIENDLY MOTEL (4670 Ridge Road West, Spencerport NY 14559; (585) 352-3785). MAC: "I have 5 rooms reserved at the Friendly Motel for Friday Night: 1 double and 4 singles with double beds. I'll be using 1 room, Jeff will take 1, Mike will take one, and Nancy will take one. That leaves 1 room open for Steve if he wants it."

Suggestion for dinner in Rochester: Dinosaur Barbeque ("Rumble").

ROUTE: (Gary): "Scenic for Western NY would be head up from Buffalo to Lewiston along the Niagara river, then take Rt 18 to Rochester. It would be nice to take the parkway but the western end (Debsters house to Hamlin beach) is like a washboard. Then from Rochester 104 to RedCreek then 104A to Oswego, back onto 104 to NewHaven then 104B to Rt 3 then up to Clayton or where ever the ferry is on Rt 3. Alternatively you could take a more southern route from Buffalo along Rt 20 maybe passing the north end of a few of the finger lakes, then head up to Lake Ontario near Seneca Falls to RedCreek and the same as above. Thing is you don't get to see any of the lake along Rt 104. Rt 18 on the west end will put you near the lake in a few places. Then 104A and Rt 3 at the east end will let you see some water."

(Canroc): "Taking the scenic route along 104 and Lake Rd will still get us to Kingston Ontario for Saturday night." "I was referring to Lake Rd between Webster and Sodus Bay. That is a nice ride, and Sodus Bay has the outdoor restaurant deck and ice cream etc., and the beach at the lake. But that would be if time permits. 104 is faster."

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SAT - pick up Debster, Canroc, and others (?) and ride toward east end of Lake. Catch the ferry and cross to KINGSTON where (hopefully we meet up with Canadians). Ferry goes from Cape Vincent to Wolfe Island and then a FREE Ferry from Wolfe Island to Kingston. No problem getting on the ferry: just show up. No reservations required (or taken!). Can easily handle up to 50 bikes!!! $7 for the ride. No tie-downs necessary (as some of us know, they can be required by some ferries). He said the island and Kingston were biker-friendly. LODGING STILL TO BE DETERMINED, but possibly the Highland Motel 5 : $74 for a dbl bed; $79 for 2 dbl beds. No reservations yet.

(NANCY): Here is something else we can do while we are in Kingston: August 10-12:

-20th Annual Kingston Sheep Dog Trials: Over 100 of North America's top trial competitors will celebrate the 20th annual Kingston Sheep Dog Trial, Canada's largest Sheep Dog Trials. Trials run from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. daily. The event offers a variety of side attractions (Birds of Prey demos, Sheep Shearing demos, the Time Bandits Canine Games, Jungle Cat World, Bear the Tinker, to name a few), food concessions, a craft and artisans fair, kids activity area and much more:

-Abrams Brothers Concert at noon on Friday, August 10.
-Location: Grass Creek Park: Tel: 613-546-4291 ext. 1706

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SUN - ride to London (MAPQUEST says London is 276 miles from Kingston via the 401). Some will cross and go home via Buffalo. Some will go to London for the overnight. Five rooms at the London Comfort Inn... unfortunately not as cheap as Mac found: $90. All have queen size beds, non-smoking. I can change any of this if anyone so wishes. And they have a barber/stylist on staff... Mac and Dar, Nancy, Mike, SteveK, me.

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MON - ride to Lake Erie and take ferry across to Sandusky (Mapquest says 105 miles - 2 hr 5 min.), then all head their own way home... The ferry from Leamington to Sandusky leaves at 1000. Phone number is 800-661-2220 for reservation for Monday the 13th... We'll have to leave London EARLY - 6 a.m. or so - to make the one hour before departure deadline. REMEMBER YOUR PASSPORT OR ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!

I will be staying Thursday night at the HoJo in Geneva. Just to long of a ride in the morning to then continue on into NY that morning. Should arrive in Geneva around 9pm.

SD - thanks for making the reservation in London. I will take the other room at the FRIENDLY MOTEL :)

Nancy may be staying with me on Friday night. I'll PM her and get her to confirm. You may not need 1 reservation at the Friendly Motel.

Sounds like an excellent plan so far!

You may want to reconsider not taking the Lake Ontario State Parkway. It's only from Kendall to Hamlin Beach that you feel the seams in the concrete. I've been riding the bike on it regularly, and it's not THAT bad. (Or maybe I'm just used to it. LOL) It's MUCH worse in a car or truck. The only reason I bring it up is because you can see quite a bit of the lake on it.

The Highland Motel 5 in Kingston sounds good to me. I'll also confirm with Nancy that we're splitting a room Sat. night.

Nice job, Jeff!

J
were joining you and Mike for dinner thursday eavning. My niece lives there so I won't be staying at the Ho-JO I'll be staying FREE at her house. She knows some good places to eat so we might want to go to another reasterant instead of the usual. Nancy can ride with us on Friday morning if she's not already in NY.

Let me know if I need to cancel a reservation for the Friendly Notell

If the canadians don't chime in soon I have a plan to take over Port Dover bike week and americanize it. Then it would be fun :D

Nancy you want to ride to Geneva with me and Dar let me know and we'll me you on our way there.

OK. So it's no secret that I have a problem with bridges... And the Thousand Islands bridges are actually the cause of this (I would elaborate if I was sufficiently wasted!).
FOLLOW-UP:

Some friends - Shark Babe and others - knowing my fear of bridges, commissioned a local artist to do a caricature, and here follows his work. Quite nice image of the Ultra and pretty good likeness of my "good side" as well! Check out the sharks under the Mackinack Bridge! :laugh

BTW: there is a name for this condition:

Gephyrophobia

Gephyrophobia: (JEF-eer-ah-FO-bee-ah) An abnormal and persistent fear of crossing bridges. Sufferers of this phobia experience undue anxiety even though they realize their fear is irrational. Their fear may result partly from the fear of enclosure (claustrophobia) or the fear of heights (acrophobia). Phobic drivers may worry about being in an accident in busy traffic or losing control of their vehicles. High bridges over waterways and gorges can be especially intimidating, as can be very long or very narrow bridges.

Fear of bridges is a relatively common phobia although most people with it do not know they have something called "gephyrophobia." However, the derivation of the word "gephyrophobia" is perfectly straightforward (if you know Greek); it is derived from the Greek words "gephyra" (bridge) and "phobos" (fear).

http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/Bridge_Fear.jpg

LOL!
That's pretty good!

We're gonna have to get you wasted so you'll tell us the 1000 Island bridge story....

Gephyrophobiaesfuloshet
(JEF-eer-ah-FO-bee-ah-is-full-of-shet)
An abnormal and persistent fear of crossing bridges of people with the name Jeff. Sufferers of this phobia experience undue anxiety even though they realize their fear is irrational. Their fear may result partly from being a chickenshet :D

It a good thing South Dakota is FLAT and bridge free! :smoke

Great pic, it caught the inner you. LMAO

Gephyrophobiaesfuloshet
(JEF-eer-ah-FO-bee-ah-is-full-of-shet)
An abnormal and persistent fear of crossing bridges of people with the name Jeff.

:roflblack :roflblack :roflblack :roflblack
That's the funniest thing I've seen all day!

Gephyrophobiaesfuloshet
(JEF-eer-ah-FO-bee-ah-is-full-of-shet)
An abnormal and persistent fear of crossing bridges of people with the name Jeff. Sufferers of this phobia experience undue anxiety even though they realize their fear is irrational. Their fear may result partly from being a chickenshet :D

It a good thing South Dakota is FLAT and bridge free! :smoke

Great pic, it caught the inner you. LMAO

Gotta say Mac, you have a way with words :D

Though many of our Canadian friends will not be participating in the entire run, we will join up with many of them from London once we leave Toronto Sunday for an escort via back roads to London (the Sportster Club has a ride that day). In phone conversations and PM's with with Steve ("Force50") and Mike ("IronMick"), we have agreed to stay in touch and pick a spot to rendezvous after Toronto. Once we arrive in London and check in, the plan will be - hopefully - to have dinner together that evening.

Shaping up!

Make sure to check this thread often as we are fast approaching time to ride. Still haven't heard from many in NY as to whether they will ride for a segment or simply join us for dinner or breakfast.

-J

I'm good with all the plans so far! Sorry to have been so quiet (me???) but we just got back from a week of riding in WV!

Just logged in; been in Nepal for 10 days. I'd like to join you, but must attend a memorial service in Buffalo on Saturday. I'm new to the forum; would like to know of future runs in the WNY area.

I'm good with all the plans so far! Sorry to have been so quiet (me???) but we just got back from a week of riding in WV!

So ya'll went down home for the week eh?

Nancy's back! She PM'd me today, and it's official: she'll be staying at my place on Friday night, and we're splitting a room in Kingston Saturday night.

I'm good with all the plans so far! Sorry to have been so quiet (me???) but we just got back from a week of riding in WV!

I tell ya, I have to make a long weekend ride down south and get into a few twisties and elevation changes. Its just way to flat in central OH :tour

So do we still need 5 rooms for friday nite or only 3-4 and is anyone else going to ride???

Yeah! Who else is riding??

My tally is: Jeff & Mike, Mac & Dar, SteveK, Nancy, me, Canroc.

Possibles: Gazza, Cantolina, Casper, 2wheeltodd.

Anybody else?

Yeah! Who else is riding??

My tally is: Jeff & Mike, Mac & Dar, SteveK, Nancy, me, Canroc.

Possibles: Gazza, Cantolina, Casper, 2wheeltodd.

Anybody else?

I'll make it easy LOL were leaving the friendly motel at 10:00 am sat morning if your there your in and if not your gonna miss a great ride :banana :banadanc

And you can tell us the excuses laters :D

I'd like to meet up with the ride along the way on Saturday. I'm not going to
stay at my parents on Friday night like I thought I might last time I posted. If
it would be okay, maybe I could meet you folks near Wolcott. There's a
McDonalds and a gas station right on the corner of 104 and Whiskey Hill Rd in
Wolcott that I imagine you'll all be riding by between 11:30 and noon. I can
be there at 11:30 waiting.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=RT-259%2FS+Union+St+%4043.181290,+-77.804240&daddr=43.249204,-77.507858+to:Lake+Rd+%4043.269310,+-77.392460+to:CR-101+%4043.277520,+-77.119670+to:RT-104+%4043.207770,+-76.814260&mrcr=0,1&mrsp=1&sz=11&mra=dpe&sll=43.208179,-77.395248&sspn=0.247735,0.466919&ie=UTF8&ll=43.164622,-76.862411&spn=0.247911,0.466919&z=11&om=1

If ya'll haven't eaten by then I can lead you up rt 104A to a decent drive-in
type fish & hotdog place in Oswego that sits right on the lake near SUNY Oswego.

http://www.rudyshot.com/

I'll PM my cell number to OTD, SharkDoc & Debster.

Gazza

Glad to hear you're still planning on the ride! Sounds like as good a meet-up place as any.

Oops, Debster just said "only a week away"... I had the wrong weekend in my
head. I've been trying to juggle a buisness trip around a few days in either
direction and finally cleared this Saturday up, but that's the wrong week. I'll be
flying home on the Saturday the 11th while your all riding.

Debster gave me her cell number, If I can get home early, I'll give her a call and
try to meet up with you folks. Otherwiase I'll be waving to you from the air as
my plane is landing :(

Gazza

Yeah! Who else is riding??

My tally is: Jeff & Mike, Mac & Dar, SteveK, Nancy, me, Canroc.

Possibles: Gazza, Cantolina, Casper, 2wheeltodd.

Anybody else?

I need to hook up with the group Saturday somewhere (Rochester area). Saturday will be my only day, so I don't plan on going much further than Watertown or thereabouts.

Debster, where are you going to be in the am?

Sorry, kids; I'm a confirmed scratch. I'm presently house-sitting, and the owners return that weekend. Since I have their house keys, I sort of have to be here to let them in.

Sorry, kids; I'm a confirmed scratch. I'm presently house-sitting, and the owners return that weekend. Since I have their house keys, I sort of have to be here to let them in.

Can't ya just put the keys in the freezer and leave a window open for them? :laugh

The time is near :)

Unfortunately I cannot make it for this run. I was hoping to ride with you all but a teacher/parent/student bbq is planned for Saturday of which my family wants to attend. As well we have a family reunion on Sunday.

Hopefully you get some guidance on the ride through Toronto, unless you are planning to take the 401 right through.

A nice stop on the way if taking the the 401 is at Mackie's Harley in Oshawa. It is opened on Sunday from 12 - 4pm. There is a Tim Horton's at Thickson's Road and Champlain just off the 401 on the way there. http://www.mackieharleydavidson.com/contactDirections.html

Have fun on the ride. See you next May.

Looks like it'll be a day-trip for me....on Saturday...

I'll keep an eye on the itinerary and figure out a place to join up....Any planned fuel stop might be good?

Now is the time, people, to tell me that getting through Toronto by myself will be a piece of cake!! :yikes

What time will we be rolling out of Ho-Jo's on Friday AM? About 9am?

Are we going to meet up in the Chat Room this week to iron out any remaining details, like arrival/departure times, meet-up spots?

I guess we should. Wednesday night (I leave Thurs)? 8:00 p.m.?

We seem to be pretty much on our own now that almost everyone has pulled out... Friday from Geneva we'll follow a bit of the route we follow in May. The critical leg seems to be Saturday, from the Friendly Motel in Rochester to Kingston. Cantolina may be aboard for the day trip and maybe he and Deb will lead. Otherwise we'll just make it up as we go, probably along the Lake shore to the ferry.

Mac (Olderthandirt) will be back from Sturgis in plenty of time (I just got off the phone with him, and he'll be leaving tomorrow (Tues) to return.

Sunday we'll get through Toronto and meet up with the Sportster Club (Ontario) for the ride to London. I'm still trying to work out the place with Steve (Force50).

I think I am going to branch off Sunday and go with Deb around Toronto rather than do the Leamington ferry or whatever the name of it is 10 miles west...us girly girls have to stick together and I wouldn't wish riding through Toronto alone on anyone (I am hoping Casper will meet up with us and show us the hot route through that town....)

I think I am going to branch off Sunday and go with Deb around Toronto rather than do the Leamington ferry or whatever the name of it is 10 miles west...us girly girls have to stick together and I wouldn't wish riding through Toronto alone on anyone (I am hoping Casper will meet up with us and show us the hot route through that town....)

Wont we all be going through Toronto in some form or fashion? We are going around lake Ontario counter clockwise, correct?

The chat room Wed @ 8pm sounds like a good idea.

(I am hoping Casper will meet up with us and show us the hot route through that town....)

Casper won't be joining us; he's house sitting.

I guess we should. Wednesday night (I leave Thurs)? 8:00 p.m.?

Sounds good; I'll be there.

FYI

The easiest way to get through Toronto is the 407 toll road you can take it across the top of TO with significantly less traffic and follow it right to Hamilton for those not going to London or get off on the 401 exit prior to that to London. I did this 2 weeks ago and it is much better faster and safer IMO. The toll is billed to you by mail and I think it is about $15 cdn, I haven't received my bill from my trip yet, Well worth the price to avoid the problems of the 401. If I can afford it I will try and meet you around Kingston and ride back to London with you. Taking HWY 2 from Kingston is a nice, relaxing and scenic ride, you can pick up the 401 and 407 in Port Hope.

If I can't make it have a good ride.

Jim

Casper won't be joining us; he's house sitting.

I thought they might be back on Saturday and being the gentleman that he is, he would come find us on Sunday....yeah, I'm dreaming I know!!!! Love ya anyways Casper!

FYI

The easiest way to get through Toronto is the 407 toll road you can take it across the top of TO with significantly less traffic and follow it right to Hamilton for those not going to London or get off on the 401 exit prior to that to London. I did this 2 weeks ago and it is much better faster and safer IMO. The toll is billed to you by mail and I think it is about $15 cdn, I haven't received my bill from my trip yet, Well worth the price to avoid the problems of the 401. If I can afford it I will try and meet you around Kingston and ride back to London with you. Taking HWY 2 from Kingston is a nice, relaxing and scenic ride, you can pick up the 401 and 407 in Port Hope.

If I can't make it have a good ride.

Jim
Sounds good to me. At the rate folks are bailing out, I guess I can take any route I want since this is fast becoming a solo trip!

:laugh

I thought they might be back on Saturday and being the gentleman that he is, he would come find us on Sunday....yeah, I'm dreaming I know!!!! Love ya anyways Casper!

Nope, you're not dreaming! Now that I know what's going on with this house/catsitting schedule (particuarly, when they're returning), I could hightail it out to Kingston and meet up with you guys Sunday morning and then ride back with ya's from there (if you want me to, that is). I don't know TO well enough to give you some magical, 'locals only' shortcut, but I'll gladly wade through it with ya! I just need to know roughly when you plan on leaving Kingston (and where you'll be staying).

As to Blazenontario's comment, the 407's certainly faster than the 401 or the Gardiner. Lake Shore is more scenic, but at that point in the ride, I'm sure everyone will just be looking to get the hell out of Dodge. There is a small matter regarding the toll billing on the 407, but I'll tell you in Kingston. ;)

Woohoooooo you rock Casper! That will be fun to ride with you again. Can you make the chat tomorrow night? We could talk about Sunday departure times then (I really don't care- I don't have to be to work until Wednesday!)

I'll have a "Lake Ontario" Chat Room set up before 8:00 p.m. Make sure you know how to change into other chat rooms from the main room before then!!!

:geek

Nope, you're not dreaming! Now that I know what's going on with this house/catsitting schedule (particuarly, when they're returning), I could hightail it out to Kingston and meet up with you guys Sunday morning and then ride back with ya's from there (if you want me to, that is). I don't know TO well enough to give you some magical, 'locals only' shortcut, but I'll gladly wade through it with ya! I just need to know roughly when you plan on leaving Kingston (and where you'll be staying).

As to Blazenontario's comment, the 407's certainly faster than the 401 or the Gardiner. Lake Shore is more scenic, but at that point in the ride, I'm sure everyone will just be looking to get the hell out of Dodge. There is a small matter regarding the toll billing on the 407, but I'll tell you in Kingston. ;)
Maybe we can plan the ride away from TO in such a way that we ALL meet up with Steve and the Sportsters Club BEFORE y'all make the break for Beefalo and we head to London. That way you could at least say "Hi" before you head elsewhere. Maybe I can get Steve to join the chat tomorrow night. I'll call him and see where he had in mind to meet up.

-J

Woohoooooo you rock Casper! That will be fun to ride with you again. Can you make the chat tomorrow night? We could talk about Sunday departure times then (I really don't care- I don't have to be to work until Wednesday!)

I'll make sure to be online and in the chat tomorrow at 2000 hrs!

Maybe we can plan the ride away from TO in such a way that we ALL meet up with Steve and the Sportsters Club BEFORE y'all make the break for Beefalo and we head to London. That way you could at least say "Hi" before you head elsewhere. Maybe I can get Steve to join the chat tomorrow night. I'll call him and see where he had in mind to meet up.

-J

This is a really fine idea SD- I would love to say hi to all those guys again- and rub my favorite beard!!! :smoke

Steve has proposed - in the most recent Sportster Club newsletter - that we meet the Club for lunch at Dundas, west and south of TO. Might be a bit of a push, but we should be able to make it. Here is a map just to give an idea... MapQuest says 205 miles. He then proposes a BBQ at his place in London, a mere 77 miles! Deb and Nancy: how about reconsidering Sunday night and a BBQ?

http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/Dundas_Lunch_Stop.jpg

I can't remember- do we already have reservations for London on Sunday night?

I can't remember- do we already have reservations for London on Sunday night?
YES! I made them including a room for you (and Deb if you want to share, or I could add another). But I need to do something tomorrow.

I really hope y'all will consider extending to London!!!

-Jeff

I hate to bail on Deb riding through TO by herself...I wonder if Casper will be able to accompany her or if she has flexibility in the amount of time she can take this weekend.
The idea of the BBQ sounds terrific though!

I hate to bail on Deb riding through TO by herself...I wonder if Casper will be able to accompany her or if she has flexibility in the amount of time she can take this weekend.
The idea of the BBQ sounds terrific though!
But we ALL have to ride through TO anyway, presumably together. Let's see what she and Casper have to say. I could make him a reservation, too, if he wanted to head over to London if his house-sitting chores will be done... Just have to add or cancel by tomorrow since we leave here Thurs early a.m. to get to Geneva.

I like the idea of meeting the Canadian contingent in Dundas -- it'll be great to see them again!

Casper, glad you can meet up with us on Sunday. Yea!

I don't think I'll be able to make it for a London BBQ -- I have to pick the dog up from the kennel on Sunday night. They were pretty booked when I made reservations for her 3 weeks ago, so I doubt they have space for an extra day. I'll call them Wed. and check though. I'll know for sure on Wed. whether London is a yea or nay.

I better start packing! LOL

Cool Debster! Let's see what we can work out- SD says I already have a room reservation so we can split the room if that works for you!

I'll be in the chat Wednesday at 8:00. Dundas is in the right spot for a meet whether you're going toward Buffalo or London. 2:30 pm will work for us leaving London at noon or leaving Kingston in the morning, depending on the route. The meeting place is Cook's Corner Bistro. Have a good breakfast to tide you over 'til 2:30 for a late lunch. It'll be worth it. The manager of the place has a Sportster and the owner's nephew has two, an iron and an evo. The ride back to London will be nothing like the ride through Toronto, like a different country. I have some steaks to have for supper back in London, should be back here by 6:30, we timed it last week.

Steve.

Cool Debster! Let's see what we can work out- SD says I already have a room reservation so we can split the room if that works for you!

Okay, but it all depends on whether or not I can get the dog another night in the kennel!

What time does the group plan on riding out from the Friendly Motel on Saturday morning?

What time does the group plan on riding out from the Friendly Motel on Saturday morning?
Our usual plan is about 8:30 or so, + or - 30 min...

Looks like Thursday night and Friday morning are going to be a little stormy in Ohio but after that the weekend looks wonderful! This is going to be fun!!!

Looks like Thursday night and Friday morning are going to be a little stormy in Ohio but after that the weekend looks wonderful! This is going to be fun!!!

For western NY, they're saying sunny and around 80 degrees Saturday through Monday. Doesn't get any better than that!

Did you find out about the dog? Huh, did ya? Did ya?

We've had some crappy weather here lately and forecast for our ride tomorrow morning to Geneva looks like it might get a bit dampish. Went to the Tigers game last night and dodged the rain, but we might not fare so well tomorrow... (Tigers Win!).

CHAT tonight at 8:00! BE THERE!!!

I'm a little concerned that we may be lacking for "local knowledge" to serve as ride guides. So, here are the routes I'm suggesting for Friday and Saturday. Feel free to offer suggestions, etc. I've taken Saturday's route from what Gary and Canroc suggested with a little poetic license from my maps...

Fodder for tonight's chat room discussion.

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FRIDAY: Geneva to Rochester (~215 miles)

Take 20 and 5 (familiar routes to Lake Erie riders) to Silver Creek (reservation fuel), then 5 to Buffalo where we'll take I-190 to I-90E, getting off again on 20. Following 20 east, we'll get off onto I-390 toward Rochester where we will exit (Exit 24B) and head west on 104 to the FRIENDLY MOTEL at 104 and 261.

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SATURDAY: Rochester to Kingston (~211 miles)

We'll start on 390 to 590 where we'll exit onto 286 to 250. 250 will take us north to 104. Then 104A to Oswego, back onto 104 to New Haven, then 104B to Rt 3 then up to 189, 180 to Limerick and 12E into Cape Vincent where we get the ferry.

The first two legs look great SD! You leadin? j/k!!!!

If we get to Kingston at a reasonable hour we might want to ride 28 miles NE to Gananoque. I will see if I can get a recommendation on restaurants from a friend who has spent a good deal of time in that area.

The first two legs look great SD! You leadin? j/k!!!!

If we get to Kingston at a reasonable hour we might want to ride 28 miles NE to Gananoque. I will see if I can get a recommendation on restaurants from a friend who has spent a good deal of time in that area.
We actually don't have motel rooms at Kingston, so we can go anywhere and stay anywhere.

And, yes, I guess I'll be leading unless someone else steps up (shows up!).

OTD could lead maybe...I know you like the sweep position- where the heck is he anyway????

Was really hoping to make this. but we have a bit of a family crisis to deal with.. and my bikes not ready for the long hauls yet.... But, if theres an iteniary posted of meet points along the trip, I still may be able to pop in for a small part of the ride, a buddy is going the let me borrow his bike If I am all done with the family stuff..

SD: Flash flood warning from 10 pm tonight til 10pm tomorrow night for all the areas you are riding through from Michigan to Geneva tomorrow- so please be careful!!!!


* THUNDERSTORMS WITH HEAVY RAIN ARE LIKELY LATER TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY FOR MUCH OF THE REGION. MUCH OF THE AREA HAS SEEN FROM 1.5 TO AS MUCH AS 4.5 INCHES OF RAIN IN THE PAST DAY OR TWO...SO ANY ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAIN WILL LIKELY CAUSE LOCALIZED FLOODING TO DEVELOP.

OTD could lead maybe...I know you like the sweep position- where the heck is he anyway????

Mac is on his way back from Sturgis. He expected to make it back with plenty of time to recover and make Geneva tomorrow night. I left him a phone message today, advising him of "chat" tonite. Also told him he could bunk here tonite if he was behind schedule and then ride to OH with Mike and I tomorrow. I'll prob lead, just to keep speeds subsonic and off the interstates!

SD: Flash flood warning from 10 pm tonight til 10pm tomorrow night for all the areas you are riding through from Michigan to Geneva tomorrow- so please be careful!!!!


* THUNDERSTORMS WITH HEAVY RAIN ARE LIKELY LATER TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY FOR MUCH OF THE REGION. MUCH OF THE AREA HAS SEEN FROM 1.5 TO AS MUCH AS 4.5 INCHES OF RAIN IN THE PAST DAY OR TWO...SO ANY ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAIN WILL LIKELY CAUSE LOCALIZED FLOODING TO DEVELOP.
Yeah. We've been watching. Could be a crappy ride to meet up in Geneva. If we have to park it for safety, we'll just figure out something else. I'll have a laptop along, so if we get beached, we'll advise.

CHAT ROOM!!!

8:00

Sorry, folks; I got caught up in other things. What was the final verdict on the intinerary?

HA! I'm home, 1453 miles in 2 days :clap

Hey Chick if you read this before you depart call me and we'll swing by and ride with you tomorrow nite or I can swing back your way early Fri. and we can ride together to HO JOs

Sorry, folks; I got caught up in other things. What was the final verdict on the intinerary?
Call Steve (Force50) and he'll chat with you. Then call me so we can figure out a meeting time and place. We thought that if we met you at the ferry in Kingston, that might get it done...

HA! I'm home, 1453 miles in 2 days :clap

Hey Chick if you read this before you depart call me and we'll swing by and ride with you tomorrow nite or I can swing back your way early Fri. and we can ride together to HO JOs
We're on "HOLD" up here in MI. A wall of water falling. Unknown when we'll get underway, maybe not 'til late today unless it gets even worse...

-Jeff

We're on "HOLD" up here in MI. A wall of water falling. Unknown when we'll get underway, maybe not 'til late today unless it gets even worse...

It suppose to hit along the lake shore here at 10:00-11:00 so you can hold off or head south to Rt. 30 and take 30 east. That will keep you south of the rain
BTW-- suns out here.

Sorry, folks; I got caught up in other things. What was the final verdict on the intinerary?

I think Force50 was going to call you about meeting up in Kingston.

We're on "HOLD" up here in MI. A wall of water falling. Unknown when we'll get underway, maybe not 'til late today unless it gets even worse...

-Jeff

Just looked at the radar -- Michigan is clearly the winner in the rain category! Sorry 'bout that. I'll get on my mocassins and do a little dance & see if I can clear it away for ya.

OTD- I am going to leave my house and head up to Geneva about 6:30am tomorrow morning

I am amazed at your mileage on the return from Sturgis- you is crazy, Dude!!!

Just looked at the radar -- Michigan is clearly the winner in the rain category! Sorry 'bout that. I'll get on my mocassins and do a little dance & see if I can clear it away for ya.
Looks like we'll need it. Radar for Toledo and Cleveland show it moving east, but we don't think we'll be leaving 'til after noon. Maybe head due south (as Mac mentioned) and then east, hopefully following the storm's tail...

NASTY weather up here. High winds are the real problem, though the rain is just too heavy to ride in (LARGE puddling).

[SIGH]

That is a bummer to just sit and wait-I'm sure you were up early and ready to go! It looks like it is moving pretty fast though- so if you ride slower than the storm...you should be good!

...so if you ride slower than the storm...you should be good!
Not likely!

We're talking about taking theTurnpike now, that's how desperate we're becoming! Still don't think we'll be leaving 'til after noon...

At least the forecast for the next five days looks good.

HA! I'm home, 1453 miles in 2 days :clap

Holy crap! You rock!

If your butt's not iron, it's at least stainless steel!

If your butt's not iron, it's at least stainless steel!
Much more talk about Mac's butt and this thread will wind up in the SUPER OFF-TOPIC forum!!!

:D

Not likely!

We're talking about taking theTurnpike now, that's how desperate we're becoming! Still don't think we'll be leaving 'til after noon...

At least the forecast for the next five days looks good.

It looks like you won't be able to avoid at least light rain today....

The Western New York area looks iffy but ok for Friday, FINE for both Saturday and Sunday, tho...

It looks like you won't be able to avoid at least light rain today....

The Western New York area looks iffy but ok for Friday, FINE for both Saturday and Sunday, tho...
So... Are you riding Sat?

I just looked at the radar for Albion Mi- looks like you should be able to shoot direct south and then turn east and be out of the rain for most of the ride (at least for the next few hours)

Hold off till as late as you need to, from toledo to geneva is 2:15 min. on the turnpike.

Chick you still want the reservation for the ferry across lake erie or you comming home through NY?

Chick you still want the reservation for the ferry across lake erie or you comming home through NY?

I don't know what I am going to do on Monday!!!! I really want to ride some of those NW PA roads but I need to check on mileage and times-
And I hate the thought of going through Buffalo by myself...

I don't know what I am going to do on Monday!!!! I really want to ride some of those NW PA roads but I need to check on mileage and times-
And I hate the thought of going through Buffalo by myself...

Let me know so I can cancel with enough time to take it off my CC ;)

Jeff,
Rains here NOW so you should be good to go anytime after noon and I can already see the clearing behind this band of clouds. Stay south and its not as bad, even if you hit rain its not storms, just rain.
Like a normal lake Erie ride :D

Stay south and its not as bad, even if you hit rain its not storms, just rain. Like a normal lake Erie ride :D
YUP!

We're leaving now... with any luck we should be in Geneva for dinner. You still coming over to your niece's? (Though I guess you better leave me a message on the cell since I won't see this thread again for some time!!!)? Maybe I'll call you as we approach the Cleveland area...

See y'all sometime...

Ride Safe Jeff and Mike!!!!

Let me know so I can cancel with enough time to take it off my CC ;)
:D

How much notice do you need?

I don't know what I am going to do on Monday!!!! I really want to ride some of those NW PA roads but I need to check on mileage and times-
And I hate the thought of going through Buffalo by myself...

I have to go thru Buffalo, too, albeit east instead of west -- maybe we can do it together until we need to split off.

How much notice do you need?

Tommorrow by 10:00 AM
I just called and asked them

Deb I thought you were going through Buffalo on Sunday?

Deb I thought you were going through Buffalo on Sunday?

I am. Were you talking about Monday? After London?

Yes I was talking about Monday-
I'm thinking if you are brave enough to do it by yourself, I should be too!!!

OTD

I am taking the ferry Monday morning! Final answer!

Just talked to Jeff and his bike broke down about 25 miles west of me. He's close to a harley dealer so I'm waiting on a phone call, as soon as I know whats going on I'll either pick him up or I ride out and join him for the rest of the ride.

BTW-- Tornado in the back yard.

Our usual plan is about 8:30 or so, + or - 30 min...

I'll try to be at the motel right at 8:30 Saturday morning.

Black & smoky gold XL1200 C.

UPDATE
Jeffs bike is now back to life and him and Mike are heading east slowly. I'll be joining them when they get a little closer and were leaving the back rds. for rt. 90. I just need to convice them we need to make up time. We will make Geneva tonite.
A little rain, a break down and a small tornado can't stop the ride

Buffalo isn't bad for getting through. Mostly it just depends on the time of day. Rush hour sucks!

UPDATE
Jeffs bike is now back to life and him and Mike are heading east slowly. I'll be joining them when they get a little closer and were leaving the back rds. for rt. 90. I just need to convice them we need to make up time. We will make Geneva tonite.
A little rain, a break down and a small tornado can't stop the ride

:yikes

And if anybody's good at making up time, I bet you're the guy!! LOL

I was thinking the same thing Deb- let the crazy dude lead and you will be in Geneva yesterday!!!!

BTW the sun is out here now and everything is a gorgeous green! We should have a great weekend!

hope you guys and gals have a great run!!