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wagoneer12
28th April 2005, 18:33
2005 30th Anniversary Honda Goldwing Review

Before I start, let me describe my motorcycle experiences. My grandparents drove Harley’s in the 1960’s and 1970’s. I was born in 1970 and the only bike I remember them having was a 1977 Honda Goldwing. I remember taking rides on it when I was 8 to 10 yrs old. Fast-forward to 2004, after longing for a Harley for several years, a life changing event got me in motion to buy a starter bike. I looked at used Japenese, new Japenese, used Harley, and finally decided to skip the “starter bike” part and get on a new Sportster 883C in June 2004. Boy am I glad I did. I haven’t looked at non-Harley bikes since. Until my buddy asked me to drive home his new Goldwing for him.

As I wandered the dealership, I really started to see the differences between Harley Davidson and the rest. The Suzuki’s, Kawasaki’s and Honda’s (no Yamaha’s here) were extremely “chintzy” looking. I pushed on the “chrome” pieces and turn signals and was surprised to notice that about half the time, they gave in and were actually plastic! The fenders looked too plainly shaped. The plating on the wheels was crap. I was surprised at how low quality they actually were once you started looking closely and touching things. I still think Big Twins are a bit overpriced, but the Sporty is a bargain, especially compared to the “Jap Crap”.

On to the Goldwing. This thing was 19,000 dollars to get it out the door. IMO that would buy a pretty decent Harley Tourer, as in take your pick! I tried to talk my buddy into something Harley, but I also didn’t want to push him too hard. Anyway, he settled on the Wing.

It is probably a bit unfair to compare a new, un-“broken in” touring bike to a Sportster, but I have never driven a Harley Tourer....so......

The walkaround:

Where is the engine? I couldn’t see it. Where is the drive system? (I know its shaft but I couldn’t see it either”. Where is the gas tank? Oil tank? It has a radiator and I didn’t see that either. I noticed an awful lot of plastic “chrome” for $19000. It may be lighter and let you go faster, but it is still plastic. It was actually not as big as I expected it to be, I was quite surprised about that. It had a bunch of little badges for “30th Ann.” which was a nice touch. It definitely doesn’t look like a Harley. It almost looks like a spaceship. It was fairly nice looking, but I just don’t want to own it.

The features:

Adjustable beam projection for the headlight. AM/FM/Weather, preset buttons. Adjustable ride height for rear suspension, with two memory positions. Electric Reverse. Indicator light for top gear 5th. Gas gauge, temperature gauge. Lots of little storage places all over the fairing, lots of vents in the fairing. Adjustable height windshield, that actually is removable too. 4”x6” LCD screen that displays everything else.



The ride:

I am 5’10 and I flat foot my Sporty with my legs bent at the knees pretty good and I have a Sundowner seat. The Wing is very w i d e across the seat. The pegs are in the mid position and I had to put my feet to the outsides of the pegs. This left me with just the balls of my feet on the ground and I’m 5’10”!!! I really would have liked to flat foot it, since it weighs over 800 lbs wet.

The steering was surprisingly light and nimble. The brakes seemed o.k., nothing special. Apparently one of the brake pedals operates the front and rear at the same time. I didn’t notice this, because I always use both brakes on the Sporty and I did it on the Wing also.

The clutch was light and the shifting was pretty smooth. It felt pretty comfortable once I was going down the road. Hardly any wind hits your body, which would allow for putting on some serious miles with little to no fatigue. I felt pretty stupid on it considering I was wearing my black leather jacket, black gloves, and black boots. Just didn’t seem “right”. Whenever I hit a bump I could hear the hard luggage rattle.

I can’t really speak to the power and acceleration. It had one mile on the odometer. I never got it above 2800 rpm or 62mph. I noticed once that I was going 40mph in top gear and the engine was not lugging at all.

Overall, it was pretty uninspiring. I could see how it would be comfy, have lots of storage, and you could put on serious miles. But I think a Jeep CJ with the top down would probably be more fun than this thing. I love my Sporty.

Someday I hope to have a Road King Classic in my garage next to at least one sporty, maybe two. I sure hope the first ride on the King will be better than this Wing. If it’s not, it may just be Sporties for life as my primary bike!!

freakyt
28th April 2005, 19:04
I know a few guys that have switched from some type of Harley (BT or sporty) to an Electra, and none of them have gone back yet.

It seems like when people switch to those comfort bikes, they never look back. I've never ridden one.

Kenny
28th April 2005, 20:49
1975 1st Year Gold Wing
http://img154.echo.cx/img154/5480/1975goldwing3mf.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

2005 Gold Wing
http://img154.echo.cx/img154/4686/2005goldwing4dz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
They sure have come a long way baby.....

Krayven Sumhead
27th May 2005, 12:22
And they sure don't look like a classic motorcycle anymore......(yuchhhh)

thunderpaw
29th May 2005, 01:14
I like the '75 better. They are a helluva bike...just definitely not my type.

Kim

toadster
29th May 2005, 01:24
My buddy just bought 05 goldwing. My impression was it's a jet ski with wheels. But it's his choice and it's someone to ride with. :tour

barry1967
29th May 2005, 01:44
2005 Gold Wing
http://img154.echo.cx/img154/4686/2005goldwing4dz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)



Where's the coffee pot?

flskevin
29th May 2005, 02:03
Well if you want the comfort of a cage while riding a bike this is what you ride. Cruising a long distance with a super quiet motor, I can see the value in that.

But I'd like to see it in 10 years when the plastic has warped and doesn't fit anymore.

whispanic
29th May 2005, 06:42
Everyone seems to get caught up in the "I got a Harley you guys suck" thing. I currently ride a 83 Honda CB650SC Nighthawk. Its old - Its Ugly - but it blow the socks of any big twin or sporty.

One of my most fav bike is the Electra Glide Standard. My heart has a soft spot for the batwing! I love the rubber mounted thump of the 88". But lets be honest
stock its a slow mofo.

Im in the market for a sporty. One of the best rides I have every had was on an '86 883. Str8 pipes and buckhorns. Almost wanted to hump that bike it was so hot!

Anyways way off topic....my point

The Goldwing is one of the finest 2 wheeled vehicles ever forged by man. Lets admit it people. That motorcycle is the size of a Cady but can scrape pegs if you want to. From the origional 1000's to the 1800 injected the engine is rock solid and has no problem pulling you into and sustaining speeds well into triple digits. Anyone who has ever rode and inline or flat 6 type bike can attest to the smoothness of these motors. I actually rode a 78 wing with well over 100g miles on it. Smooth as silk and the case has never been cracked open.Dont expect that from you HD. I know of few Big Twins that get beyond 45g miles before a tear down or "adjustment". I love the shit out of Harleys. I hate the hype that it has become though.

Give respect where respect is due. As for "Jap Crap", take a peak at where you HD parts come from. China, Japan, Germany the list goes on.

I dont want a Jap cruiser because I agree some bits and pieces are substandard and the Twins look like ass. Im a Vtwin lover. I love the instant torque and thump on an HD Rigid.

If you ever get a chance take a spin on a wing. It may not be for you as its not really for me but shit man you got to admit its one fine piece of scooter.

Im a biker I ride cause its in my soul. I ride cause its my place. I ride cause anything with 2 wheels can be one helluva good time. When I say anything I mean anything!

Adios
Dont buy into to the hype - ride cause you love it - not cause you think it makes you cool!

Thanks for reading my jumbled rant

Benny The Kid
VP Road Runners MC TGC

**Not targeted at anyone just my views**

GRAYFEATHER
29th May 2005, 07:18
1981 water cool 75x61.4 mm bore, 83bhp at 7500 rpm weight 290kg or 640 lb

top speed 206km/h 128 mph and a lot faster striped down. :rolleyes:

not so bad.

Grayfeather.
PS pain in the neck to lift off the ground. :frownthre :frownthre

wriggly
29th May 2005, 07:58
The Wings are ok. I had a 91 Aspencade all black it was beautiful. I did not like the wind protection. It buffeted my head too much and it was only comfortable with a 3/4 helmet or full face. They sound like an old milk truck too. On the other hand I had a FLHTC that had the batwing and I put lowers on it and the wind protection was the best. The Harley baggers are slow but who cares. You are cruisin. When I travel, I believe in stopping to smell the roses, so to speak. If you are in a hurry, take a plane.

Krayven Sumhead
29th May 2005, 11:16
C'mon now........The new one looks as tho it came out of a "jello" mold.

willprevale
29th May 2005, 14:28
C'mon now........The new one looks as tho it came out of a "jello" mold.
That's true but then again, Wingers aren't much into customizing beyond adding accessories. Say what you will, Honda is the undisputed leader in motorcycle technology and innovation. MoCo on the other hand is the undisputed king of overpriced old time technology. There's not a Harley rolling anywhere that can keep up with a Gold Wing either on the slab or through the twisties. Fact is, they're referred to as "sport bikes with bags". We spend thousands to just beat BTs and maybe get into the 12s where most jappas do that and better straight outta the box. The only place that HD historically shines is in resale value and that's changing rapidly. A perusal of Cycle Trader, Ebay and other venues will show that well maintained Hondas from the mid 80s up are still fetching a pretty good buck. The downside of a used Honda is they all have mucho miles on them and that's because their owners ride the hell outta them.

All that being said, Sportsters have something no jappa will ever have and that's soul. Maybe it's the 45 degree V twin and the pulsating throb. Maybe it's the traditional styling or it's history. Either way, it is what it is and any comparison to foreign machines is strictly an apples and oranges thing.

Now on a personal, note, I've had a yen (no pun intended) for a Kawasaki Drifter since they first hit the market. Don't be surprised if I show up on one, one of these days. However, my heart will always belong to Sportsters.

whispanic
30th May 2005, 02:14
Sportsters have something no jappa will ever have and that's soul. Maybe it's the 45 degree V twin and the pulsating throb. Maybe it's the traditional styling or it's history. Either way, it is what it is and any comparison to foreign machines is strictly an apples and oranges thing.

Now on a personal, note, I've had a yen (no pun intended) for a Kawasaki Drifter since they first hit the market. Don't be surprised if I show up on one, one of these days. However, my heart will always belong to Sportsters.

I agree with you ther man. Im a big person but I love a small yet agile bike. Sporty fits both pretty well but its the soul that gets me. There is something so classic about that bike. I considered buying a used softail cause prices are coming down now that the hype is fading but there is nothing like a sporty.

As for the Drifter... Hell Yeah! Im a fan. It was one of my early considerations. I mean classic Indian Style with a modern touch. Very nice. Only thing that keeps me a away is 2 up riding requires and ugly seat and plastic fenders make me sick! But damn shes pretty. I really like the 1st models with the robins egg blue paint on the black frame.

But alas nothing has yet to break my desire for the sporty.

Future Plan :tour

(1) Buy 05/06 883C
(2)Ride it till the wheels fall off
(3)When so called warranty goes out in comes 1430 Conversion
(4)Mabey step 2a Seeger cycle or similar wide glide kit.
(5)Once again ride till the wheels fall off!

Random thought

What do you guys think of the "Harley Bubble" that runs filtered air and displays your harley for you when not in use?
I think its f'n hoaky but I know one of you guys has it. I guess money is made to be spent. My bikes get roughly 12,000 miles a year rain or shine so there is no time to bubble up. Hell when it rains I call it a wash!

Adios
Benny The Kid
RRMC TGC

DaleG
31st May 2005, 06:10
I have two friends that have been riding over 25 years each. They have had Sportsters, Triumphs, Yammha Stars 1600 cc, and HD BTs. Guess what they are riding; GoldWings. I have a sporty, but when I move up to a two up touring bike, I believe I will be getting a GoldWing. I thought about a RoadKing, but they are expensive and slow.

The resale on Harleys are starting to drop. HD has over produced, so the waiting gap is over, and the extreme pent up demand is gone. In fact, HD just had a class action lawsuit filed by shareholders, claiming that they over produced and flooded their dealers with bikes to make it look like sales where up. I just found out because I own HD stock.

If we want to have nice thumping big twins, we better keep the old ones. There is alot of speculation about how HD is going to handle the new EPA regulations with an air cooled design. Can anyone say V-Rod! I beleive the GoldWing meets the regulations now.

planb
31st May 2005, 07:09
I wouldn't mind a "Wing" in my fleet, but a Sporty will always be in my garage and be my favorite! I like all bikes it seems! I even use a Honda Twinstar for my Saturday yard sale routine! And Will, the Drifter IS a pretty good clone of the ol' Indians...someone here in Corvallis has one with aftermarket pipes on it, and it looks and sounds pretty good! I sold my Nomad to get my Sporty, but I kept it's love child (an 800 Classic Vulcan)...it's fun to take it out, too...70hp gets it up to highway speed nicely! I was thinking if I had a Goldwing in the fleet, I could "trike" it out when my age takes me off two wheels...I should be able to "trike" another few years after that! Not to hi-jack the thread, but here's my ol' Nomad...it sure loved to go long distances, but tiring in town...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/planb4/Nomad.jpg

I heard a lot of Valkrye owners are upset their model was discontinued...Honda's philosophy is that whoever wanted a Valkrye has already bought one...but what about replacing it with a new one every five years?

gronk62
31st May 2005, 08:54
..And Will, the Drifter IS a pretty good clone of the ol' Indians...someone here in Corvallis has one with aftermarket pipes on it, and it looks and sounds pretty good!
I wanted to buy a drifter a few years ago. I thought they looked fantastic. I have never actually seen one in the flesh, only pictures.

Nice nomad! :)