Seeing this bike wants me to smash , kick, cut everything in sight with a Oxy Torch that has the H-D logo on it,

All you backyard builders are getting my respect more and more everyday, all i can say is WTF are they thinking????


Tell me whatcha you think, like it or don't like it, that is the question.



http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/powersportsdlr/images/NewVehicles/NV54593_1.jpg


Softail Rocker Just as it seems the world of custom choppers is getting predictable, Harley-Davidson® breaks the mold once again with the radical Softail® Rocker™ model. Tied with the Softail® Deluxe for the lowest seat height (24.5-inches) of any production H-D® motorcycle, this new stunner takes riding in style to a new low. With a rear fender that mounts directly to the swingarm (with no visible fender supports), it faithfully reproduces the authentic lines of slammed, rigid-suspension customs, while delivering a modern, comfortable ride. Of course, its radical looks are what will make both riders and gawkers sit up and really take notice. An all-new satin stainless powder-coated color scheme on the tapered five-spoke wheels, bullet headlamp, triple clamp, custom finned "horseshoe" oil tank and elsewhere. Aggressively stretched front fork. Custom stretched gas tank with machined 3-D tank medallion. New shorty dual mufflers, with a sleek new bend. A big, beefy 240 millimeter rear tire. All-new LED stop / turn / tail lights that pack all the rear light functions into the turn signals, leaving only the license plate centered on the rear fender.

I love it its about time they come up with a copy of some one else but the seat sucks that is the ugly ugly seat !

I think it's just the seat, and the speedo that is killing it. I'll play in some Photo-Shop with it and see.

Photoshoped BS.:frownthre
Wait a week or so to see the real thing.

Photoshoped BS.:frownthre
Wait a week or so to see the real thing.

Not a hoax!!!! it's the real deal just shown at the dealer show today, and already online at H-D.

New Rocker Softtail (http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/home.jsp?locale=en_US)

The bike itself isn't all that bad. it's the seat that you should smash.......

That pic is the Rocker-C. The regular Rocker has a solo seat. It doesn't look too bad for a production built custom BT. It still aint no Sporty though.

http://a1264.g.akamai.net/7/1264/734/3e056b196a8983/resource.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/images/Content/Pictorial/2008_Motorcycles/std_wallpaper/dom/pnw_sofxcw_dom_c01_sws_w1024.jpg

now i can handle the v-rod, nightster, street bob, but this might just be taking it a little to far....

absolute garbage... that said , someone will buy it

Needs a couple of modifications, anyone?

How bout this? I just photo-CHOPPED it LOL! I should have made the seat a little smaller....oh well you get the idea.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/johnny_wolf/rockerII.jpg

How do you take luggage?

Fugly! But it will probably be a hot seller. Believe, HD, has been watching to much Discovery channel.

How bout this? I just photo-CHOPPED it LOL!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/johnny_wolf/rockerII.jpg

Now thats not a half bad looking bike..

Should of called it what it is a posertail!

How do you take luggage?

In my back pack like I do now :p

How bout this? I just photo-CHOPPED it LOL!




Now i can deal with that!!!! Nice photoshop work.:banana

The new H-D Confederate wannabe needs to be smashed!!!!!!!! with a BFH,:doh :doh :doh :doh


http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wildcat.jpg

Now i can deal with that!!!! Nice photoshop work.:banana

The factory should hire me....:banadanc

Not a hoax!!!! it's the real deal just shown at the dealer show today, and already online at H-D.

New Rocker Softtail (http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/home.jsp?locale=en_US)

Well I'll be damed, if it aint potoshoped....it should be.

The factory should hire me....:banadanc


I agree, they need someone who knows bike styles, cause they sure have lost all aspect of what a great motorcycle
should look like, wonder if they are hiring????? :rolleyes: :p

THe seat on the first pic is crap. THe second pic is alright but missing something. They need to keep working on it.

I agree, they need someone who knows bike styles, cause they sure have lost all aspect of what a great motorcycle
should look like, wonder if they are hiring????? :rolleyes: :p

They won't hire me....I have taste LMFAO:laugh

The way the seat just ends in mid air without flowing into anything, is just wierd
Reminds me of a Kawaski Vulcan Drifter.....Fugly.

I agree with dooley.

Does not look very comfortable to ride. The satin chrome and the wheels are very cool. I also like the lines of he frames. I don't like the lines of the tank or the speedo or the same old tired exhaust.

sorry, it doesn't do a thing for me.

get rid of that fugly ass seat now your talkin:tour

I'd throw that seat in the trash, and ride that !!!!in thing like I stole it.:smoke
Seriously, that thing is not bad, the rocker-c seat is ugky but what Harley seat doesnt get ripped off anway?

change the seat, add a side mount lic. plate, and add a peanut tank then we're talking. my .02

F---the Rocker, gimme a Dyna Fat Bob.......http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2008_Motorcycles/2008_Motorcycles.jsp?swfsection=family&swffamily=dy&locale=en_US

I like it. I prefer the standard model over the "C" though. At least from the pics I have seen. Yeah, the seat is a little weird, but overall I think it is a cool bike. Don't know if I would pay $20k for one though.

20K i could build 3 and call them my own, :banarock :chtwo

I like the ingenuity of the passenger seat. Have you watched the video of how it folds out from under the solo seat? ...pretty cool!

Otherwise, I don't really like it. Don't hate it... but it's not for me. :rolleyes:

I like Johnny Wolf's version better. :clap

I like Johnny Wolf's version better. :clap


Thank u, thank u vury much....(Elvis)

F---the Rocker, gimme a Dyna Fat Bob.......http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2008_Motorcycles/2008_Motorcycles.jsp?swfsection=family&swffamily=dy&locale=en_US


I dunno about that either, kinda looks like a Dyna Softtail combination, with that rear fender from a Softtail Standard, and that god aweful Fatboy wheel upfront even the Softtails don't want!! looks like a jumble of used parts to me

Not that i hate it, dislike would be a better term for me.:laugh :laugh :laugh

THE HIGH PASSENGER SEAT.? hUMM, IS THAT POSSIBLE FOR THE CHILD SAFETY SEAT OR WEDGE A CARTON ON BEER UNDER THERE?

I dunno about that either, kinda looks like a Dyna Softtail combination, with that rear fender from a Softtail Standard, and that god aweful Fatboy wheel upfront even the Softtails don't want!! looks like a jumble of used parts to me

Not that i hate it, dislike would be a better term for me.:laugh :laugh :laugh


Fat-Bob...

It's all ok for me except for that bobtail fender.....YUCK! They looked great in the 80's and 90's. Isn't that the model with the twin headlights too....double YUCK!

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.


Just my .02c

I bet some of the aftermarket seat mfgs will come out with some nice seats to fill in the gap. I think HD did good with the Rocker. (minus the seat) It will compete with those single rider type customs that Big Bear and the other custom guys have out. As a 2 up, I don't see it being very comfortable and safe! Also what's up with the 96b engine? Didn't they just come out with the 96 engine last year? And it as a rev to it?

Love my Sportster!!!

Um, they had the "b" last year, too. All softails have a counter balancer instead of being rubber mounted. The "b" means balanced.

I bet some of the aftermarket seat mfgs will come out with some nice seats to fill in the gap. I think HD did good with the Rocker. (minus the seat) It will compete with those single rider type customs that Big Bear and the other custom guys have out. As a 2 up, I don't see it being very comfortable and safe! Also what's up with the 96b engine? Didn't they just come out with the 96 engine last year? And it as a rev to it?

Love my Sportster!!!

The 96b engine has counter balances in it like the 88b did. Softails are not rubber mounted like the rest of the line up.

The gap between the seat and fender is for rear suspension travel. The fender is mounted to the swingarm and maintains its clearance with the tire.
If you fill up that gap the fender will hit whatever you fill it with.

The seat in the original post sux. Other than that it looks okay.

The seat in the original post sux. Other than that it looks okay.


That's the fold up bitch seat, for safety's sake none of my bitches will be riding on that!!!!:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

Fat-Bob...

It's all ok for me except for that bobtail fender.....YUCK! They looked great in the 80's and 90's. Isn't that the model with the twin headlights too....double YUCK!

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.


Just my .02c

+1 Put a longer fender on that bitch. Looks like a street bob got laid by a fatboy???:banawala

That's the fold up bitch seat, for safety's sake none of my bitches will be riding on that!!!!:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

Yeah, I know....and it's a good idea...but ugly (IMO). And like you said, don't think I could ride anyone on it....my wife would probably be terrified to get on that. She loves her backrest too much!

You forgot to add a "who gives a sh!t
I won't be buying one" option to the poll.

Still kind of ugly, but more functional if you have passenger.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/bwheeler111/53935_08_M_2218a.jpg

With H-D appealing the 200- 240 tire to the trendy masses what's next, a 300 series tire for H-D???????:doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh


Wonder if Bobby Six Pack knows that H-D stole his design??????:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh


http://www.amc1902.com/images/movie_release/bikes/headhunter/300_tire_1.jpg http://www.amc1902.com/images/movie_release/bikes/headhunter/300_tire_4.jpg







http://www.amc1902.com/images/movie_release/bikes/headhunter/head_8.jpg


http://www.amc1902.com/images/movie_release/bikes/headhunter/600_top_image.jpg

it needs to be longer and lower.

With H-D appealing the 240 tire to the trendy masses what's next, a 300 series tire for H-D???????:doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh :doh


Wonder if Bobby Six Pack knows that H-D stole his design??????:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh


http://www.amc1902.com/images/movie_release/bikes/headhunter/300_tire_1.jpg http://www.amc1902.com/images/movie_release/bikes/headhunter/300_tire_4.jpg







http://www.amc1902.com/images/movie_release/bikes/headhunter/head_8.jpg


http://www.amc1902.com/images/movie_release/bikes/headhunter/600_top_image.jpg

Now that is FUGLY.

Now that is FUGLY.

Yeah no doubt!!!

The regular one looks alright, the "c" model sucks.

Seeing this bike wants me to smash , kick, cut everything in sight with a Oxy Torch that has the H-D logo on it,

All you backyard builders are getting my respect more and more everyday, all i can say is WTF are they thinking????


Tell me whatcha you think, like it or don't like it, that is the question.



http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/powersportsdlr/images/NewVehicles/NV54593_1.jpg


Softail Rocker Just as it seems the world of custom choppers is getting predictable, Harley-Davidson® breaks the mold once again with the radical Softail® Rocker™ model. Tied with the Softail® Deluxe for the lowest seat height (24.5-inches) of any production H-D® motorcycle, this new stunner takes riding in style to a new low. With a rear fender that mounts directly to the swingarm (with no visible fender supports), it faithfully reproduces the authentic lines of slammed, rigid-suspension customs, while delivering a modern, comfortable ride. Of course, its radical looks are what will make both riders and gawkers sit up and really take notice. An all-new satin stainless powder-coated color scheme on the tapered five-spoke wheels, bullet headlamp, triple clamp, custom finned "horseshoe" oil tank and elsewhere. Aggressively stretched front fork. Custom stretched gas tank with machined 3-D tank medallion. New shorty dual mufflers, with a sleek new bend. A big, beefy 240 millimeter rear tire. All-new LED stop / turn / tail lights that pack all the rear light functions into the turn signals, leaving only the license plate centered on the rear fender.

Who in Hell is going to take a chance and park their a$$ on that back seat? One hard bump and you'd either be catapulting or hitting the asphalt hard when it snapped off!!

Remember the AMC Gremlin? The "half a car?" Well, that's a "half a cycle!"

looks. like. shit!


I like the photo-chopped version better...alsoe, notice the motor (IMO) looks better than the funky tri-colored nightster one!!!

Regardless of each individual's tastes, I think it's marketing brilliance. Yes, they're jumping on the Big Dogs, Am. IronHorse, etc., etc., bandwagon. So they decided to steal back some of the market share that those marques and Victory, etc., have taken because of HD's overall "traditional" (aka not as modern) styling lineup. Look at the price points on the Rocker models. If I remember correctly, the standard model starts at 17k, and the C at 19k. Now anyone who wants can get something that looks like the others, with a "genuine HD" badge, pedigree, and service and parts/accessories network, and get it for much less than the 25k-30k+ starting price for some of the others. As far as the seat on the C model, yes it's fugly, but in a way, brilliant also. When the seat's folded under, it's gone, and you have a tough lookin' solo seat bar hopper. If you pick up some willing female admirer, or you already have one at home and she wants to go for a ride, you don't HAVE to have a seperate seat or a lick-n-stick pad for passenger duty... it's built in. If I had unneeded money to blow on a bike whose primary purpose was short hauls around town, vanity cruises, and ooohin' and aaaaahin' at the local bike night, I might consider these, or even the FatBob, for the same reasons. Until that money falls into my lap, though, I'll stick with my beloved "do it all, and better than most" Sporty.

It's nice to see them once again trying new and, uh, well, "interesting" things. Having said that, I do not like the Rockers one bit. Then again, I didn't like the first V-Rod either, even though now I'd gladly own one.

I think it rocks, no pun intended.

I was going to say it's the ugliest damn bike the MoCo ever produced.....then I saw the Dyna Fat Bob. Is the MoCo trying to kill sales and go out of business? 'Cause they just might succeed. You'll have to excuse me now, I feel my dinner working it's way back up.

Regardless of each individual's tastes, I think it's marketing brilliance. Yes, they're jumping on the Big Dogs, Am. IronHorse, etc., etc., bandwagon. So they decided to steal back some of the market share that those marques and Victory, etc., have taken because of HD's overall "traditional" (aka not as modern) styling lineup. Look at the price points on the Rocker models. If I remember correctly, the standard model starts at 17k, and the C at 19k. Now anyone who wants can get something that looks like the others, with a "genuine HD" badge, pedigree, and service and parts/accessories network, and get it for much less than the 25k-30k+ starting price for some of the others. As far as the seat on the C model, yes it's fugly, but in a way, brilliant also. When the seat's folded under, it's gone, and you have a tough lookin' solo seat bar hopper. If you pick up some willing female admirer, or you already have one at home and she wants to go for a ride, you don't HAVE to have a seperate seat or a lick-n-stick pad for passenger duty... it's built in. If I had unneeded money to blow on a bike whose primary purpose was short hauls around town, vanity cruises, and ooohin' and aaaaahin' at the local bike night, I might consider these, or even the FatBob, for the same reasons. Until that money falls into my lap, though, I'll stick with my beloved "do it all, and better than most" Sporty.

Yep. Why not capitalize on that market. And like you said have the backing of the MoCo. Did you see the video on the HD website. The dude rides up to the bar and leaves with hot piece of tail and all he has to do is whip out his little seat.

the seat looks shitty...its VERY distracting...

http://www.amc1902.com/images/movie_release/bikes/headhunter/600_top_image.jpg

I saw that POS at the Easyrider show in '06. This is a prime example of "just because you can, it doesn't mean you should".....build it that is :doh

It is great marketing, ... but it could possibly use a different styled tank, and I think the accesory after market will include all of the little touches, like speedometer relocation, spring mounted seat, sleek saddlebags, etc. Pretty smart if you ask me. They can't make a great "chopper", you have to buy the parts afterwards. That's harley, and they're going to make a ton of money on this one.

I saw that POS at the Easyrider show in '06. This is a prime example of "just because you can, it doesn't mean you should".....build it that is :doh

its ok dude...its not like it gets ridden anyway...the only ride its ever been on I'm sure is just the ones to get pics...imagine how HORRIBLY that thing handles!?!?

I see the moCo being REACTIVE to the cycle industry, rather than PROACTIVE by falling into lagging sales of the 240- 280 tire BD, IH, Texas chopper fields, as my local BD dealer has the same bikes for the last 6 months still sitting on the sales floor.:doh :doh

I've only read a cuppla posts on the first page of this thread so far and I usually don't comment on bikes I don't like, but DAMN!! That thing is one busted ugly lookin' MoFo of a bike! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/gronk62/smileys/puke.gif

With a seat and exhaust change (who doesn't do that first on ANY harley???) I think it's pretty f'n sweet! I like it!

I dig the photochopped version with the spring seat, too!

I wouldnt kick it out of bed for eating crackers.

HD is thinkin' out of the box. If they didn't do it someone else would.

Thats how you stay in business.

regarding the seat. "If you can read this the bitch fell off" Oh Yeah!!!!

the seat looks shitty...its VERY distracting...

Yeah but once its folded out and a littel hardtail is sitting there it won't look so bad. It is not designed to be ridden all the time in the folded out position.
Once someone is on it their legs will hide most of that open area.

Some rich ol boy will buy it to put his trophy gal up on display on that perch

I don't care much for the seat or the speedo...... other than that, its a home run......they gotta sell what people want to buy, thats how business works.....too bad they didn't make them 10 years ago..... cuz I'd have one all hopped up and lookin' good......

Ww

The seat reminds me of the BMW cruiser seat from a few years ago (the whole fold out thing)

Other than that, it does not look too bad. Not necessarily my style, but I don't have my bike set up like a lot of folks here, and theirs are not like mine.

So, if someone wants it and rides it....it's cool by me.

Mav

I like it. I don't know why, but I like it.

But, I really like the '71 boat-tail super-glide, too. Heck, it only lasted one year, maybe the Rocker with the fugly seat will only last that long.

I guess no one can accuse them of not "thinking outside the box" when it comes to the Rocker and the Fat-Bob.

to have 'fugly'. Look at rat rods/bikes. While it might not be a 'stated' reason to have a 'rat' ride, ugly they are to the Traditionalists and Modernists.

I'd have to see and sit one to make a final decision as to whether I'd have one. But, like it has been said, if money (lottery?) just fell into my lap this might get into the stable.

But, I'd put a digital speedo on it. (When are the moco's going to realize that some of us riders are also techno-geeks. A nice wide but short digital display of speed/tach/oil/fuel/etc making a bump on the riser or as the bar mount cap would clean up the lines and give functionality. And, god yes, put the 'retro' spring seat on it.

(Image just popped into my head: bitch seat on fender and bitch bouncing up and down rubbing her 'pillows' on my back. :D )

absolute garbage... that said , someone will buy it
I think I'm going to have to go with flatty's answer on this one.

I wouldn't call it "thinking outside the box". Maybe outside of the MoCo box, but not out of the current trend in motorcycles. I think they are just jumping on the bandwagon, and maybe a little too late at that. We'll see if it is a success or not. With that said, I like it. Yeah, the seat is odd, but I think it would be a fun bike to own for short rides. But, I am not going to trade the Sporty and put myself in debt for one.

That photoshop looks pretty good, and would be great if it were a real hardtail,
but it might not work so well on a softtail. Ya gotta remember that the fender
will travel upward with the suspension, so when you hit a pothole the fender will
becoming up into the gap at the same time that your bum will be going down.
That would be a major ass smacking waiting to happen.

Okay I looked at it again and in the springs are attached to the swingarm. So it might not be an ass smacking, but I bet it would still be wonky riding the swingarm while the pivot point below the seat is flexing under you?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/johnny_wolf/rockerII.jpg

Gazza

this bike could look real sweet with a few tweeks. the seat has to go first.

Well when ya let the bike world go by you and NOT keep up, or lead.... ya end up following trends. Having said this, this bike iseems to be 1 that you can buy and easilly mod/Bob. The seat is no engineering feat tho.

A nice solo seat, maybe raise the front of the tank a tad. Some new bars. Pipes. I doubt peeps`ll leave this 1 stock for very long. lol

I'm thinking it looks great. It looks like what a LOT of riders want. And it's HD. Folks will buy that for 20 long before they buy some other boutique brand for 25-35.

Mostly its just good to see the MoCo doing something other than completely old fashioned, traditional bikes. Now they need a 7.5k 883 nightster and a rework of the Vrod before everybody thinks, 'I would have bought that had it been available 5 years ago.'

I'd really need to see this one in the flesh first, but, IMHO I think it's Harleys lame attempt at copying the stlye and look of the some customs out there (Big Dog, American Iron Horse) and it screams "Customize me becuase I look like Sheeite" No sexy curvey flow... no flow at all.... just looks like some one had some parts sitting around and decided to build a bike.. Ok I guess that is how a lot of choppers came about, but... I just dont like it...
This bike suffers form the same lack of identity and lack of originality that I notice in quite a few of the factory built customs that are out there today.. (i know, "originallity" and "factory built" are two words that dont go together, but thats exactly my point) Harley could have built a bike that looked cool, custom, and original... instead they give us a lame attempt at being like everybody else out there....shame shame.
The Nightster is a great example of doing something different, even though it is basically the 2007 version of a 1950's 60's bobber, It is something that the other manufacturers weren't already building.
I guess one plus with this bike is that It will let a lot of people who actually would like to own a bike that looks like a a Big Dog or an American Iron Horse get one for half the price... maybe a smart marketing move by Harley, but I just dont like it... thats my .02

I think it's almost cool.. The tank and seat seems to be off. If you clean up those lines with the speedo and exhaust changes it would look a lot better. I would never buy one, but like others have said, they will probably sell a ton of them.

I have looked at this several times. It does look like a "factory custom" and here is my take. The tank needs to be remounted so the bottom follows the frame. The speedo needs to be mounted on the rocker box. I also think some 18 or 22 inch apes would need to be installed. I knew how to photoshop, I would like to see that. With those mods, I would ride one.

The passenger seat is a little odd.

-i like it but the next bike is a e-glide then a rocker

If people buy this thing at nearly $20k (and they probably will), it is only further proof that there is, indeed, an ass for every seat.

That thing would look good under a steam roller!!! It's ugly.

"IMHO I think it's Harleys lame attempt at copying "

Lame attempt or.... desperation move? I ain`t no Nightster fan, but peeps are buyin em. No offence to the Nightster owners btw. Seems it doesn`t matter wtf Harley does these days, they sell.

For the most part, I like it. In fact I like it a lot! I like the speedo mount (seem to be one of the few), and LOVE the rear fender mount, but I do agree that the seat looks really odd, both the 1 up AND the 2 up. I'd rather see a one up seat that goes clear back to the fender, getting rid of that gap, and then a "pillion-type" pad mounted right on the fender for the rear passenger.

For the most part, I like it. In fact I like it a lot! I like the speedo mount (seem to be one of the few), and LOVE the rear fender mount, but I do agree that the seat looks really odd, both the 1 up AND the 2 up. I'd rather see a one up seat that goes clear back to the fender, getting rid of that gap, and then a "pillion-type" pad mounted right on the fender for the rear passenger.

Dude, if you put a pillion ON the rear fender, you'd LAUNCH your passenger when you hit a good bump.....:doh :laugh The rear fender is mounted to the swingarm, which means it moves with the tire,,,,,which is also why you can't make the seat go clear back to the fender. There has to be some space for movement of the rear fender/tire.:smoke

It's funny (wierd) but I've been thinking about this setup for a long time....looks like the harley designers read my mind.:D With that said, the passenger seat does look f'd up on there....

That looks absolutely horrendous.

make the frame rigid and mount the seat correctly, get a gas tank that fits the frame and you've got a good start to a decent chopper.

:frownthre I think HD is off their rocker. That is the ugliest thing since...:yikes

I don't like it.....i think they left it to the future owners: get rid of the velocimeter and back license...put it on the side of the thing!

it needs a 3.3 peanut tank.

sorry chaps but think it looks great :tour

I think the actual bike is better than the first prototype...

http://homepage.mac.com/dagruber/.Pictures/Cooker.gif

I think that was called the "Cooker". :roflblack

Seriously, the seat is heinous. Other than that, I kinda dig it (especially the fat tire), but $20K is a lot for a starter platform. Imagine what you're gonna have to put into it before it's "done". Let start with the exhaust, some kind of real seat...and so it goes.

Smash it. Piss on whatever is left.
What's next...the HD "theme" series? (HD limited edition Harry Potter broom special!)

I like it!

Yep. Why not capitalize on that market. And like you said have the backing of the MoCo. Did you see the video on the HD website. The dude rides up to the bar and leaves with hot piece of tail and all he has to do is whip out his little seat.

Did anyone else notice her wedding ring????
So... ahhh ya... good advertising.
He went to pick up his wife at the bar.
How often does that happen in real life?
Where was the 2nd helmet for her?
We know HD doesn't put any helmet locks anywhere...
I know someone will buy it, it won't be me.

was she HIS wife??? wow, that changes things

I just cant wait to see people paying 20 grand for the Rocker-C and swapping out the swingarm to put a 160 rear back there.

Did anyone else notice her wedding ring????
So... ahhh ya... good advertising.
He went to pick up his wife at the bar.
How often does that happen in real life?
Where was the 2nd helmet for her?
We know HD doesn't put any helmet locks anywhere...
I know someone will buy it, it won't be me.



I can't seem to find that video. Can you post a link, please?

I wanna see how that rear seat flips up.

I can't seem to find that video. Can you post a link, please?

I wanna see how that rear seat flips up.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2008_Motorcycles/2008_Motorcycles.jsp?locale=en_US
Go to the Rocker page, Features & Specs, click on the seat below the bike's pic.
Then Learn more about the Trick Two-in-One seat...

http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2008_Motorcycles/2008_Motorcycles.jsp?locale=en_US
Go to the Rocker page, Features & Specs, click on the seat below the bike's pic.
Then Learn more about the Trick Two-in-One seat...



Thanks, dude! That's actually pretty cool! Doesn't look half bad with her nice butt on it!!!

I agree the two up seat thing is hideous. The speedo placement and the pull back riser/handlebar set-up needs to go. Change the gas tank too. So it looks like you need to keep the wheels, motor, and oil tank. Won't be trading in the Sporty anytime soon.

I wonder..is there a weight limit on that two up seat? Maybe it comes with one of those "no fat chicks" warning stickers.

OMG, that seat is horrific!!! The bike itself doesn't look so bad but what were they thinking when they designed the seat? Whew!

Wow that bike is fugly!!!!!

What were they thinking?????

I'll probably get shot for this, but I like it. Not enough to trade a sporty in for, but I think it's a neat. For that kind of money though, if it was me...I'd jump on a Street Glide or Deluxe...but that's just me.

You forgot to add a "who gives a sh!t
I won't be buying one" option to the poll.:clap:clap

Not sure i would buy it. I am sure they will sell plenty! The V-Rod is still here, and that is more of a "departure" from H-D.

did some photoshop work:)

as a solo, it isn't too bad. but that passenger pillion just reminds me of the old timey tractor seats the way it just floats out there. just watched the video of how the seat deploys. i see some passenger pillions getting stolen in the future.

i dont care for the speedo mount, looks like it got a boner. and the fuel tank needs to have a curved bottom so it flows with the rest of the bike.

not major changes, but some would be necessary to make it a decent ride.

cant say if I really like it or not till I see it in person. I didn't like the street bob in pics, but when I saw one at the dealer it looked alot better.

It's not my thing, I wouldn't want one, but I kind of like it.

Why is the MSRP $2200 higher for the rocker C vs the rocker????

Can't be $2200 just for the different seat?

I hate it. That being said, I LOVE the new Dyna Fat Bob!

I dont care for the passenger seat "look", but no one ever rides with me anyway., so I love the damn thing! About time you can get a BT with a 240 on the back. Priced way too high but they all are, I sold my 2002 1200 custom last week so i'm looking, and this one is getting my attention. I like it!

v rod is still there cause harley mandated dealers carrying them. this is the first year they dont have to carry a v rod and my dealer said they are not ordering any. they have to many as it is from years past and trade ins. at this point in the season its about all they have.

as for the rocker, i hope it flops.

You all complain when your two-up seats scratch the paint on the rear fender. Now, HD has engineered a seat that WON'T scratch your paint, and you still whine like little biotches!!! There is no making you people happy!

Johnny Wolf
How bout this? I just photo-CHOPPED it LOL! I should have made the seat a little smaller....oh well you get the idea.


You and I had the same idea about the seat and tank. (#40+41)

http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=70336&page=3

But after seeing the video, it looks like the seat goes down a lot when a rider is sitting on it. With that in mind, I think that an air ride shock would fix the problem easier. When the bike is parked, just push a button and lower the shock. When it's time to ride, just push a button, and the seat comes up a bit. As far as the speedo, either mount it up on the bars, or on the left side of the engine. Maybe change the style or angle of the gas tank to follow the line of the frame. I think that the engine finish and oil tank look good. Fat tire is good, generally a good idea, but executed poorly.

Peace,
Mark

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2007 olive/black 1200N
http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/mrochette/

was she HIS wife??? wow, that changes things

I can't believe we're deconstructing a HD ad, but...if you watch her body language before getting on the bike, you can see she's a little unsure about this guy, but the "trick" seat convinces her -- or maybe it was the guy's shiny HD belt buckle.

I think you're supposed to wonder -- IS it his wife -- or did he just run off with some OTHER guy's wife? If it was his wife anyhow, what was she doing in the biker bar alone? And why does every other guy in these ads look like Sawyer from LOST?

And one more thing, while I'm thinking about it...what is so special about the 105th anniversary? They're making such a big to-do about it that it smacks of desperation. Maybe they got a bit of sales spike with the 100th anniversary lineup, so they're pushing this lame 105th concept. We'll know for sure if we see the 2009 models come out with special 106th anniversary badging. http://homepage.mac.com/dagruber/.Pictures/screwy.gif

I sometime wonder if they design them with such obvious design flaws that people can't help but change things on them.

I love it, of course I like alot of things that you all don't. ie the VROD, my blue LED's, and my Son's Ninja zx-r6. Sorry, but I can't help what I like.

I photochopped it and although I dont really like the original look, with a few simeple modifications I think it looks a whole lot better. I lowered the rear end about an 1 1/2 inches, bobbed the rear fender, moved the rear turn signal lights forward a little and added a second set to the swing arm, then I relocated the front turn signals to the forks, and added a set of slash cut slip ons (SE II's). All of these things could be done fairly easily and IMHO it makes the bike look a whole lot better. Check it out!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/JoeLondon/08RockerFXCW_v3sm.jpg

I think it's hilarious how up and arms Harley guys get about bikes they don't like...

I think it's hilarious how up and arms Harley guys get about bikes they don't like...

There is a lot of chatter about the Rocker. Love it or hate, Harley has stirred some emotions!

I was in the local H-D shop last night. The owner's daughter was there. She told us the Rocker certainly stirred things up in Nashville. If nothing else, she figures people will come in just to look at it.

And we all know guys can't walk into a shop without buyin' somthing!

I actually like the look of this bike quite a bit. They have finally stepped out of their comfort zone to produce something completely different. You have to admit if you were going to get a custom with more rake and a wider back tire it would be hard to pass up this bike being it has the reliability of HD.

The tank needs to be raised a little in the front to match the lines a little better though. It will be interesting to watch what HD tries to pull off for accessories for this bike. Not sure how they would ever create saddle bags or a back rest for such a bike but I'm sure they'll try.

My guess is this will be the bike to have for 2008 whether people buying them will keep them for long will be the test of time. If people realize they can't do with this bike what they can with the rest of the line-up, ie. travel or tour, I think there will be many of them up for sale in the used market within a couple years.

Sporty Joe-

The photochop looks great! However it wouldn't work unless someone decided to make their softail a rigid. The fender moves with the swingarm on this model. That why there is a big gap between the seat and the fender.

I like it with the Spring solo that someone else photoshopped in.

But I will reserve final decision for when I see one. At $18k its alot of money, and I don't see much advantage over my Sporty. But who knows, I haven't ridden it.

Cheers,

Justin

The tank needs to be raised a little in the front to match the lines a little better though. It will be interesting to watch what HD tries to pull off for accessories for this bike. Not sure how they would ever create saddle bags or a back rest for such a bike but I'm sure they'll try.

There are already saddlebags for it.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444877118 9&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374309178813&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374309178813&bmUID=1184346970754&bmLocale=en_US

There are already saddlebags for it.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444877118 9&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374309178813&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374309178813&bmUID=1184346970754&bmLocale=en_US


Yeah for only $869.90! :doh

That's a polite way of putting my first response!

Yeah for only $869.90! :doh
What else did you expect for Moco bags?
They don't do cheap remember.
What do the hard bags for the sporty cost?

The tank looks like hammered sh*t as well. And for the money? I'd get a Victory Hammer instead :)

Reminds me of a Fat Guy with no Legs !!!

I love the idea, too bad it looks so crappy. I would love to hardtail my sporty, but no way to do that and still be rideable with the wife. I have 2 sets of homemade struts that I am using for height gages to figure out what shock to use.As to this softail, the hardtail look, with the low fender, is great...and it looks it with the solo seat. But that 2 up seat is garbage. Now if they took a decent 2 up seat, and put something like a fringe around the bottom to fill in the gap when the tail is deflected down, that would be hot.

Here is a video of the 2007 dealers meeting. The Rocker C doesn't look as bad here as it does in the pictures.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6167618366845099776&q=2007+dealers+meeting&total=43&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

both seats are fugly and the tiny ass rear end looks cartoony
and the speedo? who came up with that? looks like a chubby on the rise

What else did you expect for Moco bags?
They don't do cheap remember.
What do the hard bags for the sporty cost?

I wasn't shocked at the HD price, I'm very familiar with HD pricing. What I was trying to convey was "WHY" buy MOCO bags.

As far as the hard bags for a Sporty...who cares? I wouldn't consider putting bags on one. I didn't buy a Sporty to make into a touring model. I would buy a Street Glide if that's what I wanted, and probably will some day. However, it will be parked next to my XL.

WTF HD~...You dropped the Springer Classic for this POS!!....Hope it bombs and someone looses their job...preferably an Executive or the guy that designed this crap!

Hope it bombs and someone looses their job...preferably an Executive or the guy that designed this crap!


http://www.amadirectlink.com/vmd/2007/images/WillieG.jpg

He would be a tough guy to fire since his last name is on the gas tank. :doh

It ain't that bad, and the pipes are similar to the Sporties! I wouldn't buy it, but, THAT'S why I got a Sporty! Put it this way... would you buy this before you'd buy a Victory VEGAS???

One more thing... That's TWO bikes in a row now where CHROME wasn't the featured product!!!

One more thing... That's TWO bikes in a row now where CHROME wasn't the featured product!!!

That's why all the boutiques have it hanging on the walls for all the "Gotta Have" types who foolishly buy that ugly ass crap!!!!! :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

Langer...you make assumptions...He's not the only executive at HD...and he doesn't design them...sheeh!...It might be his last name but he doesn't own the company....I'm not even sure if he has controlling interest...

1st of all I like it and the majority in the poll like the scooter
2nd if OCC, WCC, Confederate you name them came out with this scooter you all would be droolin over it. Look at a Sporty setting on an Atlas frame and a 240. The 2up seat does suck though. l can see all ways to customize and improve this bike [ain't that what the MoCo is counting on]. MoCo is like Burger King "have it your way"

1st of all I like it and the majority in the poll like the scooter
2nd if OCC, WCC, Confederate you name them came out with this scooter you all would be droolin over it. Look at a Sporty setting on an Atlas frame and a 240. The 2up seat does suck though. l can see all ways to customize and improve this bike [ain't that what the MoCo is counting on]. MoCo is like Burger King "have it your way"

WRONG.
I personally can't stand any of the MFG's you mentioned! Ugly is ugly no matter who makes it. :rolleyes:

Stick with the standard seat on the custom and I like it . The tank seems a little bulky , maybe section it by about 3 inches.

1st of all I like it and the majority in the poll like the scooter
2nd if OCC, WCC, Confederate you name them came out with this scooter you all would be droolin over it. Look at a Sporty setting on an Atlas frame and a 240. The 2up seat does suck though. l can see all ways to customize and improve this bike [ain't that what the MoCo is counting on]. MoCo is like Burger King "have it your way"

99% of the time, the majority of any situation is nothing more than a group of idiots with the same spoon fed ideals. (wearing my fire suit)

Just because the world knows who they are doesn't mean they build bikes that everyone likes. Chrome is over rated and usually that over priced ass jewelry is "drooled over" as you put it by that same majority referred to above.

Wide tires belong on trucks, not Sportsters.

It's a harley, it's unique, it's different, I think it's ugly (just the seat) but I bet it'll sell well. Lots of guys out there who will have to have it just because its so novel looking...keeping up with the Jones'. But not me, and old ironhead sporty may not have "class (snob) appeal", but that may be part of just why I like em even more. It's all about ME, what I like.

WRONG.
I personally can't stand any of the MFG's you mentioned! Ugly is ugly no matter who makes it. :rolleyes:

Just so you know I can't stand them either. Here is a Atlas Precision Sporty with a 250 rubber on a softtail frame. Hope you like their version alot of similarties here

with the 2 up seat down I've decided that i like the bike, but i wonder if the yamaha roadliner tank had an influence on the rocker's oil bag.

Snuffy...
The only two builders who would get my attention or $$$ would be Indian Larry....god rest his soul...and Russell Mitchell Exile Cycles...IMHO...the others you've mentioned suck...its all about $$$...they've lost any design taste in search of the mighty greenback...my two cents

Sporty Joe-

The photochop looks great! However it wouldn't work unless someone decided to make their softail a rigid. The fender moves with the swingarm on this model. That why there is a big gap between the seat and the fender.

Thank you, yea I noticed that, but I think it could be done if the seat were modified a little (and it may be that way.. have to see on in the flesh to tell) but if they were to cut into the back of the seat ( take an inward curve) to contour with the fender, then Im pretty sure the swing arm would still have some room to travel. looking at the seat, it appears to have plenty of room on the back side.
man I love PhotoShop! all that work and it didnt cost me anything!! :smoke

It ain't that bad, and the pipes are similar to the Sporties! I wouldn't buy it, but, THAT'S why I got a Sporty! Put it this way... would you buy this before you'd buy a Victory VEGAS???

Actually, I wouldn't buy either one... nothing wrong with the Victory... except the cylinders look like two grain elevators.... just cant beat a Harley V Twin.. that's one sexy looking motor. or at least thats what she said...

1st of all I like it and the majority in the poll like the scooter
2nd if OCC, WCC, Confederate you name them came out with this scooter you all would be droolin over it. Look at a Sporty setting on an Atlas frame and a 240. The 2up seat does suck though. l can see all ways to customize and improve this bike [ain't that what the MoCo is counting on]. MoCo is like Burger King "have it your way"

I think Id have to disagree with the part about OCC, WCC and a majority of the custom builders (but not all.. lets not forget Indian Larry) I enjoy watching American Chopper and those type of shows, but its more for seeing a concept come together. Im more of an old school chopper fan.. IMHO alot of what's being produced on those shoes and by the big custom manufacturers is all starting to look the same in my eyes... sure they have different paint, and a few add ons, but that stretched and raised look just doesn't do it for me so much anymore.. Down here in Texas it seems like everybody and thier brother have one of these bikes and really with a few exceptions they are for the most part cookie cutter bikes, but then again thats what most factory customs are, the same frame. motor, and wheels with a different paint job, different AC unit, and a different seat.

Langer...you make assumptions...He's not the only executive at HD...and he doesn't design them...sheeh!...It might be his last name but he doesn't own the company....I'm not even sure if he has controlling interest...

nobozos,

I was not trying to slam you. But since he is "Vice President of Styling" I am betting he saw the Rocker design and gave it the go ahead. The buck should stop with him.

It all good, man. :tour

Lots of chatter about the Rocker, which is the point, I suppose. They'll sell very well, I'm sure. That Fat Bob is awesome, though. I wouldn't buy either, mind you, but the Bob get's my vote.

Actually, I wouldn't buy either one... nothing wrong with the Victory... except the cylinders look like two grain elevators.... just cant beat a Harley V Twin.. that's one sexy looking motor. or at least thats what she said...

I agree, SportyJoe, I wouldn't buy either one, but, I think the Vegas buyer MAY be the target demographic for this bike. I mean, if I were looking to buy a Vegas right now, this new Softail would give me wood!:wonderlan

Langer....I didn't think you were...slammin me...

Say ... you don't suppose that some Japanese company bought a controlling interest in HD ... do you?

Man the designers just gotta lay off that Saki.

Would I trade my soprty in for it? No way!!!
If I had the cash just lying around would I buy it? Definately! But I can guarantee my wife won't want to sit on that seat!

Things I would change:
Hooker pipes - oooh baby!
Relocate front turn signals
Change headlight for a more "visor style" look
Flame grips and pegs.

As far as the seat and gap is concerned:
I can't think of a better way to show off the paint on that fender or that wide tyre! Sheer brilliance.

Have I been brainwashed? I dunno, who cares cos for some reason this bike just does it for me! Well done MoCo!!!

And yes, my 1200 custom has saddle bags AND apehangers with tassles and all kinds of sh*t you probably won't like but that's ok, I DIG IT!
"Flame(suite) On!"

So they came out with a new model. If you do not like it,who cares?? Nobody is making you buy it.Why say wft?? If you do like it then great.

lame........

Seeing this bike wants me to smash , kick, cut everything in sight with a Oxy Torch that has the H-D logo on it,

All you backyard builders are getting my respect more and more everyday, all i can say is WTF are they thinking????


Tell me whatcha you think, like it or don't like it, that is the question.
[snip]

I was sitting in the waiting room for a Dr. appointment the other day and was reading one of the various outdoor/hunting mags they had sitting around. In it was an add for Suzuki motorcycles. The ad had 4 models displayed - I looked over them and thought "Hrm...Road Glide, Soft tail, Dyna, Sporty...they all look like Harley's!". Then it occurred to me - maybe this is why Harley is coming up with some off the wall designs for their motorcycles. All the Japanese manufacturers are making H-D knock-offs, Harley decided to make some ugly as hell bikes so the Japanese will follow suit. Then in a year or two the Japanese sales drop and Harley goes back to the 'normal look' and sales go through the roof! :doh

an add for Suzuki motorcycles. The ad had 4 models displayed - I looked over them and thought "Hrm...Road Glide, Soft tail, Dyna, SportyI'm curious, which Suzuki looks like a Sportster?

The idea behind The Hide-A-Tail Model is you go out single, mingle, then pull out the hidden seat so he/she can feel some highway tingle.....at least that's the impression the demo video gives. Its pretty ridiculous, but somebody will buy it, and love it.

The idea of mounting the fender to the swingarm is NOT a new one. I have seen some old FLH models with the same mod. I actually like the look. Turning 30 in October so I am still not in HD's demographic and I want one.

I received my 2008 genuine motor accessories catlog yesterday. The pictures they have in it of the Rocker & RockerC looks pretty sweet (except for the saddle bags on the C). Of course the pass. seat is not extended. I think it will be a big seller and hard to find in stock.

I like it but I feel the sameway about the seat.

How do you take luggage?

It's a poser bike... and posers don't ride far enough to need luggage.

Edit: Okay, I watched the video of the bike on the HD site. After seeing it in action, I think HD did a nice job including the seat. The way it changes from solo to two-up is pretty cool. Still, for me I like a bike that I can put a luggage rack on but I can see where this bike should be a good seller for the MoCo.

You all know the old story, Ya open the fridge and it hits ya. You know something takin' a turn for the worse but your not going in there to look for it.
Same thing !

:frownthre

The AMA website has a review of the Rocker and notes "the load limit on those elegantly molded struts [holding up the rear seat] is 250 pounds." In other words, those of larger proportion need not apply.:rolleyes:

I like it, but I think the pillion seat is plainly ludicrous, anyway who wouldnt change a few things?

I like the looks of the bike, even the seat. It's the name I have a problem with. The name "Rocker" on a motorcycle screams "poser". Given what I believe the Motor Company's prime demographic to be with this bike, I think "Mocker" would have been a better name choice.:frownone

Never really been a big softtail admirer myself. That seat however is the ugliest motorcycle seat I've ever seen. Hideous. Completely destroys the whole flow of the bike.

But.......I'm sure that Mustang, Corbin, Lepera, and Leatherman are all already hard at work making something that looks nice to replace it with.

So they came out with a new model. If you do not like it,who cares?? Nobody is making you buy it.Why say wft?? If you do like it then great.


The thread asked our opinion and mine is :wtf Lot's of folks said it would be cool if you changed this&this&this&this&this.....:geek:geek:geek

I'd rather start from scratch and build what I want if that's the best they can do..... Just MHO.....:wonderlan :wonderlan :wonderlan

I like the bike but hate the seat. Just seams like somthing is missing

IMHO, the Rocker-C is just a chromed-up version of the base Rocker, and they will sell the base model (if there is such a thing at H-D prices) to riders who never-ever want to take a passenger along. I personally like the beaded case look of the base model.

The seat is just plain wierd, and only for those passengers who want to hang on with no backrest - the selling point of the Rocker C is that the passenger seat and bracket stows away INSIDE the rider seat, so you can look like the bike is for solo riding until you pick up a passenger - assuming your passenger is carrying their helmet with them just in case someone on a bike shows up???

The other drawback to the design is that saddlebags and luggage racks are possible, but will take some thinking and may limit this bike to "bar-hopper" status, just because you can't carry much stuff on it.

I think the first accessory someone should design is a 1-piece luggage rack and saddlebag support that clamps with rubber clamps on both sides of the rear fender with a non-marring surface on the top of the fender. That would allow the rider to use the accessory with or without bags, depending on conditions, and remove it completely for local cruising.

As for the Speedo on the tank at that angle - I guess it's supposed to be sporty and clean up the bars a little, but I think they would have been better off as a speedo & tach combo in a couple of little chrome bullet cups on the bars.

H-D is just following suit from many of the semi-custom builders (i.e Big Dog) who always seems to build their bikes for solo riders. Maybe H-D has already developed accessories for this bike, but is just not showing them off yet.

Who knows...? I wouldn't buy one - I just don't think the lines of the bike flow very well.

Maybe H-D has already developed accessories for this bike, but is just not showing them off yet.


There is no hiding to it... they accessories (including saddlebags and brackets) are on their website and have been since the day after the Rockers were released (I didn't look on the day they were released, I don't think.)

absolute garbage...

I.....I.....I think I...love you...










:roflblack

Bring that 'un 'round the Ace Cafe, they'd be takin' the piss, they wud!
"Rocker"? Hah!
The proportions are all wrong. It looks like it got sawed off too short.
The front half looks OK, but the rear looks like some Rube Goldberg creation.
And that pillion cantilevered out like that just looks silly.
Anybody want a backrest? How about a luggage rack? I wonder where
they were thinking of mounting saddlebags.
What were they thinking?
Can't carry any gear--maybe it should just stay home.
PARK THIS 'ROCKER' ON THE PORCH RIGHT BESIDE GRANNY'S ROCKER! :laugh

Once you realize that most of the time that stupid pillion seat is folded up inside of the solo seat. It folds out so you can ride a passenger, otherwise it is hidden, and with it tucked away, she looks pretty nice.

speechless......

Bring that 'un 'round the Ace Cafe, they'd be takin' the piss, they wud!Do you go round the Ace much? Must be a long trip.I wonder where
they were thinking of mounting saddlebags.Actually there are saddlebags for it.

saw one at delmarva . they look better in person

How bout this? I just photo-CHOPPED it LOL! I should have made the seat a little smaller....oh well you get the idea.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/johnny_wolf/rockerII.jpg

I like it with this seat.

Do you go round the Ace much? Must be a long trip.Actually there are saddlebags for it.

Well, no, I don't visit the Ace frequently, but I been. I been.
What I was attempting to convey was that, "in my day", no
self respecting "rocker" would be seen at the Ace on a bike
that looked anything like this thing. One would think that the
least the MoCo could have done was to bring out another 'cafe' model
if they felt a burning need to use that name.
This is like making a bagpipe and
calling it a "Graceland". :laugh
So are the saddlebags cantilevered as well? :wonderlan

Seems like the Moco is having some problems building it...
it won't be available to dealers until the end of November now.

Gazza

It would look better with a peanut tank.

So are the saddlebags cantilevered as well? :wonderlanThere's some kind of support structure; don't know how it fits. Here they are:

http://a1276.g.akamai.net/7/1276/734/59d24d41331529/resource.harley-davidson.com/media/images/productphotos/PNA/90240_08_M_2221e.jpg (http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444877118 9&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302491571&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302491571&bmUID=1190186955605&bmLocale=en_US) (click the pic)

Still the ugliest POS to roll off the assembly line :smackh :smackh :smackh :smackh

The best looking Softail ever, and the only BT that would tempt me to the dark side.:banadanc I don't necessarily like the way the pillion looks folded out, but then again, I would never fold it out. They could have left that feature out.

Putting saddlebags on it kind of destroys the look, IMHO.:p

I to, have heard they are having some kind of issue with production.

If anyone is interested in a reviewers quick take on the Rocker you could check this out. The reviewer, Bertrand Gahel, does a lot of reviews for printed bike magazines in Canada. My first take on the Rocker was "huh!", but you know I've learned not to judge bikes until I see them in the 'real world', wasn't as impressed with the Nightster as I thought I would be after falling in love with the pics and hated the V-Rod pics but kind of admire the bike. Never know.

http://www.cmgonline.com/bikes/articles/07_Harley_Rocker/index.html

Koot

Seems like the Moco is having some problems building it...
it won't be available to dealers until the end of November now.

Gazza


:tour I saw one at Delmarva Bike Week last weekend, looks better in person than in photos, and yes a factory rep did confirm they are having production problems and they will be delayed, she just wasn't sure how long. BTW she was from the York plant, there wasn't one on display thurs, but she called york thurs afternoon and had one trucked down on fri morning.

I like the bike, I think that area behind the seat just looks plain funny. Almost like they werent sure what to do there so they just left it open to the rear fender. I think its a cool looking bike though.

POP

Well, I don't like it given the pictures. Maybe it would be better in real life. It strikes me, however, as a lot of what the Sportster isn't. The Sportster is an honest motorcycle, even if the the technology is a bit old.

Well, no, I don't visit the Ace frequently,

you are not missing much, poor quality over priced beer, lousey coffee

thay have theme days and ask you if your bike is not part of the "theme" you are told to park somehwere else

they are raking in the money and exploiting the name

if i lived someplace where there where highways and it was a couple thousand bucks cheaper i might buy a rocker.. the solo seat though.. that pill seat is weird looking.

I actually really like the look of it.. very clean.. would ofcourse have to make a few changes.. i bet its real heavy though.. my sporty 1200 is already heavier than i want it..

I want one :wonderlan

"WTF are they thinking?"

They are thinking market. The company is betting that the rocker will have appeal to some riders that the rest of their line does not.

The Rocker is really the first Softail--really the first Harley other than my Sportster--that I have liked. I don't like the fold out seat, but that could just never be folded out.

I am reserving judgement until I see one in person. However, they have it priced out of reach for me, and I will probably never own one, even if I do like the looks

Glad I'm not on the back anymore! I would laugh if a guy actually thought I would ride that back "seat." Yeah, what were they thinking with that thing? Must be going for specific demographics.

I just watched a show on Speed Channel promoting the Rocker. They rode around Malibu and Hollywood with Willie G and his son Bill on both rockers and several other softails. The older bikes made the Rockers look stupid. IMHO

Bring back my rocker thread:laugh that what all the softail guys will hear in a couple of months, Nice!! The oil tank is the only good thing about it other than that its not a Sportster.:banana :tour :p

It looks like they are trying a few new things out for effect. I would have to ride one in order to evaluate it. HD is a very conservative company, not very cutting-edge, I guess that's part of it's appeal. The bike looks like it needs to be finished. I kind of like it's goofy lines though.

I think it will be interesting to see what will/can be done with the bike?
Over all i dont hate the look --

The tank doesn't flow with the lines of the bike and the seat looks retarded....and we all know that fat tires are out like beanie babies.

Harley will sell thousands.

Here is a bit of :doh for ya:

If you look at the H-D P&A site, all of the parts that have the word "Rocker" in them are now trademarks of the MoCo. (http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_search_main.jsp) (type "rocker" into the keyword box and look at the results)

For instance, you can buy Chrome Outer Rocker(tm) Covers for your Sportster.

Someone, somewhere, misunderstood the memo that said the term "Rocker" was now trademarked.

only good for the RUB
or OCC loving
not for your backstreet chopper

I think it's just the seat, and the speedo that is killing it.

I have to agree. With the exception of the ugly seat and the speedo looking out of place the bike has some nice clean lines with a low slung look.

I like it. It looks better without the passenger perch, but that folds up under the seat for solo riding

Seems like the Moco is having some problems building it...
it won't be available to dealers until the end of November now.

Gazza
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Local dealer (and others) haven't seen any deliveries of the "Rocker."

They think there is a seat problem.
If it were to break with someone on the passenger portion, big lawsuits will happen.

Becomes a point of stress with the leverage of a person on that fold-out seat.
It may not be strong enough.

Regardless of each individual's tastes, I think it's marketing brilliance. Yes, they're jumping on the Big Dogs, Am. IronHorse, etc., etc., bandwagon. So they decided to steal back some of the market share that those marques and Victory, etc., have taken because of HD's overall "traditional" (aka not as modern) styling lineup. Look at the price points on the Rocker models. If I remember correctly, the standard model starts at 17k, and the C at 19k. Now anyone who wants can get something that looks like the others, with a "genuine HD" badge, pedigree, and service and parts/accessories network, and get it for much less than the 25k-30k+ starting price for some of the others. As far as the seat on the C model, yes it's fugly, but in a way, brilliant also. When the seat's folded under, it's gone, and you have a tough lookin' solo seat bar hopper. If you pick up some willing female admirer, or you already have one at home and she wants to go for a ride, you don't HAVE to have a seperate seat or a lick-n-stick pad for passenger duty... it's built in. If I had unneeded money to blow on a bike whose primary purpose was short hauls around town, vanity cruises, and ooohin' and aaaaahin' at the local bike night, I might consider these, or even the FatBob, for the same reasons. Until that money falls into my lap, though, I'll stick with my beloved "do it all, and better than most" Sporty.


wise words exactly how I feel :smoke

It might be OK if at the very least cut off that passenger pillion. It might be palatable that way as a solo but as is? It's FUGLY! :frownthre

It might be OK if at the very least cut off that passenger pillion. It might be palatable that way as a solo but as is? It's FUGLY! :frownthreYou don't need to cut it off, do you; it folds away:

http://www.motorcyclingmag.com/Machines/Cruisers/asset_upload_file863_6229.jpg

Dang, I can't wait to see one of those bad-boys!

I still prefer the humpback style seat to keep my ass off the rear fender when I crank it but I guess you don't have to worry about that on the Rocker (:D).

You don't need to cut it off, do you; it folds away:

http://www.motorcyclingmag.com/Machines/Cruisers/asset_upload_file863_6229.jpg


I think it is very good looking but I also think that it should be a solo seat that is closer to the rear fender, Way too much of a gap between the fender and seat. Also add mini-apes would give it a chopper look without having to do anything else.

it should be a solo seat that is closer to the rear fender, Way too much of a gap between the fender and seat.That gap's needed for the suspension movement. :geek

That gap's needed for the suspension movement. :geek

It does look like that if you hit a bump hard enough to close the gap between the seat and fender then you would be very close if not actually hitting the bottom of the frame. Outside of that I find this as one very fine looking bike.

Of course, even at the bottom of the suspension travel, there is probably some gap. This way, a guy's (or gal's) wallet chain won't "dink" the rear fender. :censor

Nothin' worse than posin' with a dink in your rear fender! :geek

can you pose without a dink in the fender?


seriously though.. having time to fully take the bike in and see one in person now..

I would have to get it a different seat.. a solo that sits closer to the frame. i would also have to raise up the front of the gas tank a little so it flowed better with the lines of the frame. lose the speedo and the swap the pullback risers out.. maybe even throw some clipons..

I think it looks better w/out the passenger pillion, but it's still ugly as sin

Well I saw and sat on a Softail Rocker today. The bike just looks unfinished because of the big gap between the seat and the rear fender. It is freakin huge! Also, when I sat on I noticed that the primary stuck out and hit the inside of my left leg. Now I am the first to admit that I am short (30" inseam), but it stuck out waaay too much. In riding position with the forward controls, it was no problem. Just when you had to stop and put a foot down.

John

The dealer where I bought my Sporties emailed me that they have a Rocker. I can't wait to see it!

Edit, upon further review, they are unveiling it on Saturday at 9:00am.

some one will buy them,different strokes for different folks Mike

Wider tire = worse handling (they say) but heck it looks good...
Fender mounted on the swingarm = sheer genius
plus:

$19k vs $30k = a nice bonus in anyone's books
That leaves $11k to play with (I can dream can't I). More than enough for:

1. Racing tuner, breather kit, and drag pipes
2. Bad ass custom spray job that has special emphasis on the rear fender so that you WANT that gap under the seat to see the detail
3. Handle bars of your choice (I would go with mini apes personally)
4. Adding of 'flavor' to taste (raising tank a bit, side mount number plate etc.)

You could of course also buy 2x 1200 sporties instead and ride circles around the BT's just for fun!

I think either would be fun!

Sssshhhhhhaaaaaaa - wwwwiiiiinnnnnggggg!!!!

:banadanc:banana:banadanc:banana

OMG it is gorgeous! I walked into my local dealership at noon and they told me they could show me, but only for a minute!

What a neat bike. That rear wheel, with the wide open design is awesome. The painted frame is spectacular!

The gap between the seat and the fender is a little larger than I would like to see it, but I would stick a lowering kit on the bike and it would be PERFECT.

This thing rocks!

Have one in the dealership I work at (sold of course) and l like it. The painted frame gives it the custom look. Don't care for the seat but I'm sure someone will make a replacement for that. The 240 tire is not an issue with handling in my opinion. Of course I have a 08 V-Rod with a 240 tire and have not had an issue push it into the corners. So to each his own, I would buy one if I had an extra 22k.
Just my 2 cents...

I really think a new tank will make the bike....anyone see after market bits yet?

I just got back from a two day trip to Minnesota, and stopped at Bergdales Harley Daidson in Albert Lea. They showed me a Rocker and let me sit on it. The pictures were good, the bike is better. Absolutely the only Softail I have wanted to own.:tour I'm in love:o

Now, if they would just put a Sporty 88" motor on it.

Now, does anybody have a spare 20 grand:smoke

By the way, if yur ever by that ares, Bergdales is a great dealership to visit. Very freindly and helpful! For that matter, the Faribault MN dealer is also.

OK,the bike looks like some prep boys toy,get rid of the seat and go with a solo and some 12 inch or 16 inch apes and lose the speedo and yall have a bike worth looking at

I love it its about time they come up with a copy of some one else but the seat sucks that is the ugly ugly seat !

After some review I changed my mine it fugly

If I got one of these things used, the first thing to go is the seat.

get rid of the seat and go with a soloErm, it is a solo. :confused:

Personally, I think it looks like shyte, but I'll withold final judgement until I can see one in person.

It just looks out of proportion. the front looks like a regular bike, but the ass end looks too small in comparison with the fender hugging the wheel and the gap between the fender and the seat.

Kind of like a girl with broad shoulders, 44ddd's and a 20 inch waist, no ass, and chicken legs. It's not quite right.

I think it would look much better with a smaller tank (peanut style), apes, and a bar mounted speedo.

I saw one at the dealers on Friday. Not my cup of tea but it was a real piece of work. Exquisite. From a production line...my hat's off to the workmen who produced it. Definitely drool worthy.

Something just doesn't look right in my opinion.

The speedo is obvious but, it seems too long in the front and too short and low in the back......

It kinda looks "delicate" to me. Bad-Ass...hmmm, not so much!

My humble opinion.

OK,the bike looks like some prep boys toy,get rid of the seat and go with a solo and some 12 inch or 16 inch apes and lose the speedo and yall have a bike worth looking at

If we couldn't modify them after we bought them, what would we do?;)

It does look a little out of balance, with the engine hanging furthur to the left than the right--but that is common to all the 96's. When I sat on it, it seemed actually lighter and better balanced than my Sporty--probably a lower COG?

How bout this? I just photo-CHOPPED it LOL! I should have made the seat a little smaller....oh well you get the idea.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/johnny_wolf/rockerII.jpgMy first thought was a Springer seat... You captured my vision perfectly.:clap I do have to wonder though... will that Speedo mount fit my Custom? I HATE the stock C model risers. :rolleyes:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w111/cptnbligh/rockerIIcopy.jpg

get rid of the plate or reflector thingy. Its not half bad. Maybe a few inches of riser too. Love the sead mod though.

I thought they looked okay when I first saw pics of it in the brochure. Then I saw one in person...IT"S FUGLY!!

Well, I saw a rocker for the first time in person this week, and it was FUGLY!!!! The only thing that would make it look better would be to put it in one of those car crushers at the salvage yard.

They also had a fatbob, and that bike looked pretty good. I think it would look even better with some different bars.

[QUOTE=CaptBligh;1097923]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w111/cptnbligh/rockerIIcopy.jpg

If only it were that easy!

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If only it were that easy!

Sure not that hard. Still dont want one!

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now photochop that tank a bit and raise it so that engine can breath a bit... that tank is smothering it. It looks better when you can see the whole engine!