Make : HARLEY DAVIDSON
Model : XL1200L
Year : 2006
Manufacturer : HARLEY-DAVIDSON MOTOR COMPANY
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 07V296000
Mfr's Report Date : JUN 27, 2007
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM:MANIFOLD/HEADER/MUFFLER/TAIL PIPE
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 18784

Summary:
CERTAIN MOTORCYCLES WERE BUILT WITH A CONDITION WHEREBY THE PANT LEG OF SOME RIDERS CAN HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE EXHAUST PIPE.

Consequence:
THIS CONDITION COULD CAUSE THE PANT LEG TO CHAR OR BURN, WHICH COULD LEAD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF INJURY TO THE RIDER.

Remedy:
DEALERS WILL ADD A NEW EXHAUST SHIELD WHICH PROVIDES ADDITIONAL COVERAGE OFTHE EXHAUST PIPE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JULY 12, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HARLEY-DAVIDSON AT 1-414-343-4056.

Notes:
HARLEY DAVIDSON RECALL NO. 0131. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.

Recalls Documents

Remedy Instructions and TSB - 7-18-2007 - RCRIT-07V296-7357.pdf (http://NHTHQNWWS112.ODI.NHTSA.DOT.GOV/acms/docservlet/Artemis/Public/Recalls/2007/V/RCRIT-07V296-7357.pdf)

Remedy Instructions and TSB - 7-5-2007 - RCRIT-07V296-4132.pdf (http://NHTHQNWWS112.ODI.NHTSA.DOT.GOV/acms/docservlet/Artemis/Public/Recalls/2007/V/RCRIT-07V296-4132.pdf)

Owner Notification Letter(Part 577) - RCONL-07V296-6700.pdf (http://NHTHQNWWS112.ODI.NHTSA.DOT.GOV/acms/docservlet/Artemis/Public/Recalls/2007/V/RCONL-07V296-6700.pdf)

Recall Acknowledgement- RCAK-07V296-1459.pdf (http://NHTHQNWWS112.ODI.NHTSA.DOT.GOV/acms/docservlet/Artemis/Public/Recalls/2007/V/RCAK-07V296-1459.pdf)

Defect Notice(Part 573)- RCDNN-07V296-3121.pdf (http://NHTHQNWWS112.ODI.NHTSA.DOT.GOV/acms/docservlet/Artemis/Public/Recalls/2007/V/RCDNN-07V296-3121.pdf")

FYI - this recall also includes all or some 2007 1200L models as well.

Kev


Make : HARLEY DAVIDSON Model : XL1200L Year : 2007
Manufacturer : HARLEY-DAVIDSON MOTOR COMPANY
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 07V296000 Mfr's Report Date : JUN 27, 2007
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM:MANIFOLD/HEADER/MUFFLER/TAIL PIPE
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 18784
Summary:
CERTAIN MOTORCYCLES WERE BUILT WITH A CONDITION WHEREBY THE PANT LEG OF SOME RIDERS CAN HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE EXHAUST PIPE.
Consequence:
THIS CONDITION COULD CAUSE THE PANT LEG TO CHAR OR BURN, WHICH COULD LEAD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF INJURY TO THE RIDER.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL ADD A NEW EXHAUST SHIELD WHICH PROVIDES ADDITIONAL COVERAGE OFTHE EXHAUST PIPE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JULY 12, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HARLEY-DAVIDSON AT 1-414-343-4056.
Notes:
HARLEY DAVIDSON RECALL NO. 0131. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION¿S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.

I got this recall notice in the mail last night. It seemed to apply to all XL's, for 2007 anyway.

Hello,

Just purchased an '03 Sportster. Actually in January. It only has literally 300 miles on it - perfect. One problem. My right pant leg gets set on fire. I called Harley about this but they were extremely not helpful. There was a recall on 06-07 models for this problem. I asked to speak to someone else or an engineer. She just refused to do either. Stating "we don't do that here"

I work for a Fortune 200 company as an engineer. I speak to end users (customers) all the time. Our company focuses on the customer - they are EVERYTHING. Harley Davidson could not care less about my problem. Stupid.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can remedy (shield) the hot pipe? Similar experiences?
Thanks.

Hello,

Just purchased an '03 Sportster. Actually in January. It only has literally 300 miles on it - perfect. One problem. My right pant leg gets set on fire. I called Harley about this but they were extremely not helpful. There was a recall on 06-07 models for this problem. I asked to speak to someone else or an engineer. She just refused to do either. Stating "we don't do that here"

I work for a Fortune 200 company as an engineer. I speak to end users (customers) all the time. Our company focuses on the customer - they are EVERYTHING. Harley Davidson could not care less about my problem. Stupid.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can remedy (shield) the hot pipe? Similar experiences?
Thanks.

How is it that your pants leg comes in contact with the exhaust pipe? Is it while riding, or when you're at a stop? What model of Sportster do you have?

I'm pretty sure you can find shields from Custom Chrome, or Drag Specialitys.

These are boot cut jeans that lean against ths inside of the pipe (between the pipe and the engine) when riding. The previous owner changed the forward mounted controls to standard. Excellent advice looking into alternate sources for the Heat Shields. As far as I'm concerned - problem solved. Thanks.

I see WARNING LABELS for idots coming soon!! :frownthre :p

It's an exhaust pipe, of coarse it's going to be hot!!! :doh

Ha ha Great Mr xllent01...

I got my recall notice, looked at my pipes, and tossed it in the trash. Like many other silly safety issues, the person being injured would have to make an attempt to be injured to be successful. Next thing, they will be putting shields around the cylinders so folks don't reach down and sear their hands while riding, or the oil tank will be redesigned so people can not put their finger into the oil to check the temp.

Thanks for the info... but aren't pipes supposed to be hot? I wear shorts with my '06 Low and haven't had problems. Thanks for the info, though.

I see WARNING LABELS for idots coming soon!! :frownthre :p

It's an exhaust pipe, of coarse it's going to be hot!!! :doh


What our new machisimo wise-ass fails to realize (not having ridden a rubbermount sufficiently) is that the mid-mount controls of the rubbermount put your right leg REALLY close to the rear header, and if you kick your foot out at any angle (which I find ironically that I do) it puts your pants cuff RIGHT AGAINST the header (which never happened on any of our other harleys or other brands).

We did find a couple of pairs of pants lightly charred from this, so we eventually got the upgraded heat shield.

Not a particularly big deal, but I have heard of some people (including some people who have posted here) whose pants actually burst into enough flames to burn their leg pretty good.


I got my recall notice, looked at my pipes, and tossed it in the trash. Like many other silly safety issues, the person being injured would have to make an attempt to be injured to be successful. Next thing, they will be putting shields around the cylinders so folks don't reach down and sear their hands while riding, or the oil tank will be redesigned so people can not put their finger into the oil to check the temp.

I thought it was garbage too, but read above - it could be an issue of height or joint positions, but I was suprised to see that both Jenn and I naturally put our leg right against that header.

What our new machisimo wise-ass fails to realize (not having ridden a rubbermount sufficiently) is that the mid-mount controls of the rubbermount put your right leg REALLY close to the rear header, and if you kick your foot out at any angle (which I find ironically that I do) it puts your pants cuff RIGHT AGAINST the header (which never happened on any of our other harleys or other brands).

We did find a couple of pairs of pants lightly charred from this, so we eventually got the upgraded heat shield.

Not a particularly big deal, but I have heard of some people (including some people who have posted here) whose pants actually burst into enough flames to burn their leg pretty good.




I thought it was garbage too, but read above - it could be an issue of height or joint positions, but I was suprised to see that both Jenn and I naturally put our leg right against that header.

Here you go with the machisimo shit again..


do know how many pants i've burned holes in?? as the rear header pipe is only a few inches away from the back of the right leg, so wearing the wrong pants you end up sacrificing them to heat gods.. this IS not outta the norm..
So what makes the rubbermount any different than what i'm riding..guess warning labels and recalls really do work..:doh

do know how many pants i've burned holes in?? as the rear header pipe is only a few inches away from the back of the right leg, so wearing the wrong pants you end up sacrificing them to heat gods.. this IS not outta the norm..
So what makes the rubbermount any different than what i'm riding

What's different?

I never burned a pair on the 93, so really the rear header is as close to the peg mount position on them as well?

I still think it's CLOSER on the rubbers, but it would be interesting to find out.

Plus, I suspect due to tightening emission standards combustion chamber (and therefore) exhaust pipe temps have increased.

So I'm thinking it's more likely, and finally got bad enough that they had to try a slightly different heat shield.

I don't know why people like you gotta make such a big deal out of it.

Something changed, it became a bit of a problem, so they did something to address it.

It doesn't make the bikes shit, or the people who ride them and experience the problem any less of a man, or woman, or rider or ...

:rolleyes:

What's different?

I never burned a pair on the 93, so really the rear header is as close to the peg mount position on them as well?

I still think it's CLOSER on the rubbers, but it would be interesting to find out.

Plus, I suspect due to tightening emission standards combustion chamber (and therefore) exhaust pipe temps have increased.

So I'm thinking it's more likely, and finally got bad enough that they had to try a slightly different heat shield.

I don't know why people like you gotta make such a big deal out of it.

Something changed, it became a bit of a problem, so they did something to address it.

It doesn't make the bikes shit, or the people who ride them and experience the problem any less of a man, or woman, or rider or ...

:rolleyes:

So did Mcdonalds after the dipshit spilled coffee on herself.. the two problems go hand in hand


No one including myself said the bikes were shit, or said the riders were anything less, The wise understand by themselves; fools follow the reports of others..:laugh :p

So did Mcdonalds after the dipshit spilled coffee on herself.. the two problems go hand in hand


The difference is that McDonalds changed the product (i.e. starting serving cold coffee from what I heard) - whereas Harley just decided to use better insulation. ;)


No one including myself said the bikes were shit, or said the riders were anything less,

Perhaps I misinterpreted you (since of late you seem to be taking that stance regarding things, like cold weather gear etc).

I see WARNING LABELS for idots coming soon!! :frownthre [/SIZE]

It's an exhaust pipe, of coarse it's going to be hot!!! :doh

However, look at that post, it suggests you feelthat only a idiot might suffer the problem.

Which suggests said attitude.

But Quay obviosly came out and said it


Like many other silly safety issues, the person being injured would have to make an attempt to be injured to be successful. Next thing, they will be putting shields around the cylinders so folks don't reach down and sear their hands while riding, or the oil tank will be redesigned so people can not put their finger into the oil to check the temp.

And I say BULLSHIT. ;)

The difference is that McDonalds changed the product (i.e. starting serving cold coffee from what I heard) - whereas Harley just decided to use better insulation. ;)



Perhaps I misinterpreted you (since of late you seem to be taking that stance regarding things, like cold weather gear etc).



However, look at that post, it suggests you feelthat only a idiot might suffer the problem.

Which suggests said attitude.

But Quay obviosly came out and said it



And I say BULLSHIT. ;)


Hey Kev look at a hot coffee lid next time your at Starbucks or Mcd's..while reading your owners manual with it's WARNINGS written in Italic for a reason..

Mc'ds starting serving cold coffee to compete with Starbucks..come on you should know that?? :laugh :p

At some point some idot tried what they now warn about, trying to sue someone for dumb acts trying to be successful like said before..hence the need for WARNING LABELS OR RECALLS..

Look around they are on almost every product we buy and sell!! :doh

Mc'ds starting serving cold coffee to compete with Starbucks..come on you should know that?? :laugh :p


:doh :rolleyes: the cold coffee comment was NOT ABOUT ICED COFFEE, it was about serving coldER regular coffee :rolleyes:

Warning labels have actually come on bikes for DECADES. I'm pretty sure your current ride(s) had them at one point too.

Yeah, it's a bit ridiculous, but they peel off.

But that has nothing to do with a RECALL FOR AN EXHAUST SHIELD which seems to not be doing as good a job as previous ones!

My '07 1200 Roadster has heat shields that I would have to deliberately reach behind to contact the scorching header. If I felt the shield itself were uncomfortably hot, I would keep my leg off of it rather than repeatedly see if I can damage my riding gear. There is a reason many corporations including vehicle manufacturers refuse to do business in the U.S. It is the obscene overkill of safety vs. common sense, and the weight of regulation and lawsuits designed to make a handful of folks wealthy, as a reward for being wrong-headed.

My '07 1200 Roadster has heat shields that I would have to deliberately reach behind to contact the scorching header. If I felt the shield itself were uncomfortably hot, I would keep my leg off of it rather than repeatedly see if I can damage my riding gear. There is a reason many corporations including vehicle manufacturers refuse to do business in the U.S. It is the obscene overkill of safety vs. common sense, and the weight of regulation and lawsuits designed to make a handful of folks wealthy, as a reward for being wrong-headed.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You really don't read well do you?

First off, pretty much every Harley for decades has had heat shields.

Secondly, DO YOU KNOW IF THE RECALL WAS DONE ON YOURS BEFORE YOU PICKED IT UP?

The recall is to CHANGE the heat shield.

I don't know WHY, but it seems that on some 06 and 07 models the heat shield which was installed from the factory was not up to snuff.

Maybe, as I said it's the same old shield, but tightening emissions standards made that pipe hotter than it used to be.

MAYBE, there was something wrong with a run of the heat shields.

Suffice it to say that I FOUND from experience that although I THOUGHT this was a non-issue on ours, some of our pants were charred. I say OUR because both Jenn and I rode her bike at times before we had the recall done.

I was surprised to find that the orientation of the seat to the pegs and the pegs to the controls placed both of our feet in a position with the toes angled slightly outward on the right side. This effectively moves the rear cuff of the pant leg right against the heat shield.

Since we both wear thick, armored motorcycling boots and the cuff falls an inch or so off the boot, we never felt any heat from it.

However the small charred spots on the cuff showed that the pants were exposed to an unusual (even by Harley standards) amount of heat from the header and heat shield.

Since the recall, I have not noticed any fresh charred spots on either of our pant legs.

So although it might be tempting to roll your eyes and call this a reactionary, over-protective response to an overly-litigious society, it's all quite possible that this was a reasonable response to a non-anticipated change in design parameters.