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Jesse_Bolt
16th July 2005, 07:49
¿What next? Now the DOT is messing with racers (http://www.dragracingonline.com/deadon/vii_7-1.html)
by Jok Nickolson

I had a different article ready to send to Jeff for this month but I deleted it after I made about 7 phone calls that pertained to a situation that a friend of mine went through. What I am about to write about could possibly affect EVERY RACER who races for a cash purse or deducts the expenses and show the incomes they get from racing.

I will start by telling you a short story that involves a good friend and a guy who wouldn’t have the “attitude” that might cause a Department of Transportation enforcement officer to be an ass. If anything, I would say this racer would probably accommodate the officer and ask what he needed to be doing differently. The next series of events came about as close to leaving me speechless as the “contingency thing."

Here is this racer towing down the highway minding his own business with his standard cab Dodge dually and 30’ fifth-wheel enclosed trailer with a dragster inside. The lights come on behind him and he pulls over. Not sure why he is pulled over he just sits and waits, as an excuse isn’t needed. The DOT Enforcement Officer is polite enough and asks for his driver’s license and registration. No big deal so far. A few minutes later he asks for the trailer registration (no problem, got that), a driver’s logbook (uh-oh!), a medical card and the commercial registration for the truck (double uh-oh!). About now he asks why all that stuff is needed. The response is the part that scares me and should scare you as well.

Before I go into some more details…check this part out. Since this racer had no logbook (do any of us?) the DOT Officer informs him he had to park the trailer for 10 hours since there is no way he can be sure this racer has driven more than the allowed 14 hours that day. He told the racer to follow him to the DOT scale area and that he had to park the trailer, unhook and leave the area!!! Let’s see, no insurance on the racecar and parts, no security to keep an eye on it and the DOT told him they are not responsible. You cannot stay there to protect it. How often would you leave your race trailer, race car and tools sitting at a weigh station for 10 hours and you not be there? That bothers me more than meeting the requirements. What do you think?

The DOT officer then goes into the whole deal about commercial businesses and what determines them from a hobby, etc, etc. Bottom line, towing your race car to the races where you race for cash is now determined to be a commercial enterprise. This occurred in Wisconsin and I thought it might be a strange law there. I called the Iowa DOT and they explained it the same way. If you weigh over 10,000 pounds (truck, trailer and cargo) you are determined to be a commercial enterprise if you race for money and or deduct your racing expenses from your IRS taxes and show the winnings on a an IRS #1099.

You can call it a hobby and probably lie to the DOT officer about it being a hobby, but if he makes the right calls you'd better not tell him you race for trophies when he finds out where you are going or coming from. The officer I talked to also said if they run into a hassle they have the authority to make arrests, have trailers and trucks towed, etc, etc. In other words, these guys have all the power they need to enforce the law, as they or their superiors understand it.

I also asked this officer if putting on labels such as “Not For Hire” or “Recreational Vehicle” made vehicles exempt. His answer was short, “No." A vehicle is either going to be considered a commercial vehicle or it isn’t.

I am pretty sure most states will be following these same guidelines and at the very least you need to check them out. Each state DOT should have a website or be listed in the State Government Offices in your phone book.

Breaking it down: I received a 65-page document via email from the Iowa DOT that outlined this whole scenario. These are the basics as close as I can get to understanding it all. I do feel it is important for each of you to look into this in your state and be prepared. You may never be checked but then again, YOU MAY BE NEXT!

RedRider
16th July 2005, 14:38
We dealt with this issue at work here in PA. If a vehicle is used for commercial purposes, and pulls a trailer, the driver is required to do the following:

1. Have a DOT medical card in his possession. (ya have to take a physical for one)
2. Stop at every active weigh station, whether the trailer is loaded or not.
3. Maintain a logbook.
4. Display a DOT registration number in plain view on both sides of the truck.

My sources are telling me that the states are looking for more revenue income, and are forcing the DOT to actively pursue fines for any violation on commercial vehicles. In our experience, this can be something as little as a license plate light being burned out. Recreational trailering vehicles are exempt from all this, of course. (you do not have to stop at weigh stations, don't need DOT med card, etc.)

This, of course, is bullshit. An overloaded trailer, or one with a light out going down the road presents no more or less of a hazard whether it is used for recreational or commercial purposes. The law is not being applied fairly here. This is strictly a revenue-gaining enterprise. :frownthre

Alasportster
16th July 2005, 16:12
I'm wondering if this was a "legal" stop. In the absence of speeding, lights out, etc., did the peace office have any reasonable suspicion that would permit a stop. Usually, just seeing a vehicle that has the possibility to be in violation is not just cause for a stop.

I believe these things need to be brought ot the attention of congressmen, etc., and also the news media. They are always looking for a fight. If this is the case, a peace officer can stop someone and do a search because a person actually has the potential to have 30 kilos of crack loaded into the trunk of a Corrolla.

streetfighter1
27th July 2005, 00:48
[QUOTE=Alasportster]I'm wondering if this was a "legal" stop. In the absence of speeding, lights out, etc., did the peace office have any reasonable suspicion that would permit a stop. Usually, just seeing a vehicle that has the possibility to be in violation is not just cause for a stop.
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I'm a former OTR driver and I can tell you that the laws governing commercial vehicles are not the same as private vehicles. The law can stop a commercial vehicle just for an inspection without cause and if they do find ANY problems you get a ticket and may get to stay put until that problem is corrected. The scary part is that this applies to any vehicle that the officer deems to be commercially used.

wickedsprint
27th July 2005, 00:57
Why do you keep using weird font, is your keyboard messed up?

streetfighter1
27th July 2005, 01:25
Not sure what ya mean by weird? Looks fine to me!

wickedsprint
27th July 2005, 14:53
In his post titles, seems like he found a new font button for a few letters and is either really excited about it or his board is messed up.