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11th April 2007
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Flat Track Racer
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 226
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points cover
Hey to all sportster guys and gals
studid question
how do you take the points cover of a 94 1200
Want to replace it just because it looks bad, but it looks like it is pop riveted on there? 
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11th April 2007
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Master Bike Builder
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bellevue NE
Posts: 2,024 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH883/1200 Sportster/Buell Year: 96 Other Motorcycle Model: CX500 Other Motorcycle Year: 84
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your right they are pop rivets, but special sealed ones.
drill off the heads remove the cover and the plate under it popout the tails from the plate and get new revets for the new cover.
or use self tapping screws to hold it on like i did
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96 XLH883/1200
BUB Reinhart 2-1 exaust fitted with supertrapp muffler 24 disks
big sucker stage one
progressive suspension
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11th April 2007
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Southeast of disorder
Posts: 3,561 Sportster/Buell Model: Rat Bastard Sportster/Buell Year: 1999 Other Motorcycle Model: Honda CL175-Rot'n Bastard Other Motorcycle Year: 1970
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Drill the rivets out then replace with rivets again (good) or self tapping screws (gooder).
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11th April 2007
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Flat Track Racer
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 226
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Jim
cool man, thanks for letting me know
want to put something on there with some chrome ya know, the stock one looks crappy
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11th April 2007
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Flat Track Racer
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 226
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fire medic
cool,
thanks to you 2 man
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16th May 2007
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Biker
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 25 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH 1200 Sportster/Buell Year: 1995
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What? Ain't no points on a '94!
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22nd May 2007
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Master Mechanic
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 263 Sportster/Buell Model: XL833R Sportster/Buell Year: 2003
Reputation: 196
 
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Still called a points cover though.
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23rd May 2007
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Biker
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 25 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH 1200 Sportster/Buell Year: 1995
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve3888
Still called a points cover though.
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Called timer cover in my manual. But who cares, right?
As far as special HD rivets, give me a break. That's the whole purpose of pop rivets, as they're called in the manual, so you don't need access to the other side. They wouldn't use them on aircraft if pieces fell out behind them. They are soft aluminum with a steel core (mandrel). The mandrel is pulled with a rivet gun, the back side of the aluminum mushrooms out, and when enough tension is reached on the rivet gun side, of the mandrel pops off. This is plenty water tight as long as the steel mandrel stays put, which its designed to do. Even in an open-end pop rivet, the head of the mandrel stays wedged in the mushroomed aluminum.
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23rd May 2007
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Bike Builder
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,849 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200 Sportster/Buell Year: 2002 Other Motorcycle Model: Harley Ultra Classic Other Motorcycle Year: 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by br_xl
Called timer cover in my manual. But who cares, right?
As far as special HD rivets, give me a break. That's the whole purpose of pop rivets, as they're called in the manual, so you don't need access to the other side. They wouldn't use them on aircraft if pieces fell out behind them. They are soft aluminum with a steel core (mandrel). The mandrel is pulled with a rivet gun, the back side of the aluminum mushrooms out, and when enough tension is reached on the rivet gun side, of the mandrel pops off. This is plenty water tight as long as the steel mandrel stays put, which its designed to do. Even in an open-end pop rivet, the head of the mandrel stays wedged in the mushroomed aluminum.
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That's the whole point of using the special H-D rivets so they DON'T have the mandrel pop off!
That's like throwing lose metal in there. NOT a smart idea!
Tolerances are also such that when the rivet is drawn tight, the correct thickness of the parts will pull the cover tight. It doesn't take much to let water in.
Notice how the service manual states the warning in HEAVY print.
They did that for a reason. To warn you when R&R on the timing cover!
Two new rivets will run less than a buck. They were cheap enough, I bought a 1/2 dozen to have in case I wanted to open up the timing cover again. I think it was still close to a buck for 6 rivets. Very cheap!
Using the right parts is the right thing to do!
Don't be cheap. It's a many thousand dollar machine and saving pennies on the wrong parts is dumb.
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2002 XL 1200 SE A/C & SE mufflers Mustang seat, Harley Hard Bags, Detachable Backrest w/Luggage Rack Kuryakyn Stop/Turn Signal Controller w/pulse brake, Pegs and Stirrups, Forward Controls, Memphis Fats Windshield
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22nd May 2007
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Knuckle Draggin' Mechanic
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Pocono Mountains, Pa.
Posts: 324 Sportster/Buell Model: XL 1250 Red-taxes paid Sportster/Buell Year: 2001 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XL 1250 Black-taxes paid Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2001
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The holes in the inner cover that the rivets fit are the perfect
size for tapping for 10-32 NF threads. Then use 10-32 X 1/2 "
binding head S.S. screws to attach the outer "5" cover.
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Regards,
Mike (aka wrongpaw)
2001 XL883/1250 Red (taxes paid and then some...)
2001 XL883/1250 Black (Just like the red one)
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