hello, new to the forum. I appreciate all the info on here. y'all really helped when I went to get my bike. speaking of I'm the proud new owner of an 2009 Iron 883. Its got the vance and hines black short shots (so does everyone elses, i see. lol). I also got the SE 883 to 1200 conversion kit with the SEPRT put on before I bought it. just in case anyone is interested the dyno info said: Max Power = 73.51 hp and Max Torque = 67.50.