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Old 11th November 2017
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Sweet, now put a second disc on the front and mids and I might be tempted!
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Back a few years twin disks may have been needed, with the new tech in brakes they are just extra weight on a street bike. Willing to bet the new bike stops faster then the twin disks of the past.
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Back a few years twin disks may have been needed, with the new tech in brakes they are just extra weight on a street bike. Willing to bet the new bike stops faster then the twin disks of the past.
I could argue either side of this.

Pro Single:

* You're right, modern setups are hella strong.
* Unsprung weight.
* Usage of bikes like this will probably not include fade.
* Some people like the look of singles better.

Pro Dual

* The linked duals on my RK are even stronger (like haul it down with one finger strong)
* Bikes like this may carry extra weight (passengers and luggage)
* Bikes like this can enjoy the longer maintenance intervals.
* Unsprung weight means jack to bikes like this.
* Some people like the looks of duals better.

I'm firmly in the later camp.
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I can see both sides of the brake debate, in the last few years Harley has finally come into the modern era of brakes with floating disc and multi pot calipers, but I think the control you get from a dual disc setup is much better than a single disc.

I prefer dual disc, always have, another reason is the disc stay cooler and the brakes do not fade when getting a work out in the twisties, which I love to do.

I see this bike as kinda cool, it is a lighter bike with small bags that you can use everyday and not have to take the behemoth out. that is my kind of daily rider. the only thing I have any reservation with is I have not seen the size of the bags. I have had a few bikes that the bags I added were just to small for my daily needs.

My take on this bike is add another front brake and make sure the bags are usable and I am all over it.

However, I have that in a sporty right now.
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However, I have that in a sporty right now.[/QUOTE]

Me too, I'd also need another £10K to buy it. That £10k could get me a decent classic Ironhead, a dirt bike & a good used car & still have change
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I see this bike as kinda cool, it is a lighter bike with small bags that you can use everyday and not have to take the behemoth out. that is my kind of daily rider.
The real irony of that statement these bikes (both the Sport Glide and Heritage)I are closer in size (almost the same weight, slightly less lean angle, and probably a hair smaller in overall length though I'd have to double check that last one) than the FLH series 20 years ago.

That's back when my EVO RK WAS my daily rider!!!

And yeah, it didn't feel like a behemoth back then.
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I could argue either side of this.

Pro Single:

* You're right, modern setups are hella strong.
* Unsprung weight.
* Usage of bikes like this will probably not include fade.
* Some people like the look of singles better.

Pro Dual

* The linked duals on my RK are even stronger (like haul it down with one finger strong)
* Bikes like this may carry extra weight (passengers and luggage)
* Bikes like this can enjoy the longer maintenance intervals.
* Unsprung weight means jack to bikes like this.
* Some people like the looks of duals better.

I'm firmly in the later camp.
Is one of the front disc linked to the rear disc on your FLHP?
Ex. The front brake lever controls one front disc. The rear brake peddle controls the rear disc and the other front disc?
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Is one of the front disc linked to the rear disc on your FLHP?
Ex. The front brake lever controls one front disc. The rear brake peddle controls the rear disc and the other front disc?
I THINK everything is electronically linked through the ABS system and the answer varies.

I'm not 100% but here's my current understanding:

If braking starts below 35 mph the front works front (both sides) and the rear works the rear.

If braking starts above 35 mph the front works everything and the rear works the rear and one side of the front.

(the latter is why I can 1 finger haul it down with just the lever).

But I need to get the service manual and confirm that.

I have actually felt it balancing braking when I use just one then add the other and suddenly the pedal or lever position changes subtly.
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I THINK everything is electronically linked through the ABS system and the answer varies.

I'm not 100% but here's my current understanding:

If braking starts below 35 mph the front works front (both sides) and the rear works the rear.

If braking starts above 35 mph the front works everything and the rear works the rear and one side of the front.

(the latter is why I can 1 finger haul it down with just the lever).

But I need to get the service manual and confirm that.

I have actually felt it balancing braking when I use just one then add the other and suddenly the pedal or lever position changes subtly.

That is my understanding as well with the exception of only one front disc being engaged when using the rear. First time I have heard that however it could be because the bikes I looked at didn't have dual front discs
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That is my understanding as well with the exception of only one front disc being engaged when using the rear. First time I have heard that however it could be because the bikes I looked at didn't have dual front discs
I've heard comments that some old-time riders who tend to only use the rear brake on these dressers with the linked systems see brake pads really unevenly worn in the front (i.e. the one caliper with more wear).

I've no actual experience other than the hearsay, but if it is true it would make sense.
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