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21st July 2012
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Carnoustie, Angus
Posts: 572 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200R Sportster/Buell Year: 2004
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Oil Scavenging
OK as part of my starter change out I did all the fluids, primary and engine and decided to follow the scavenging thread. I was unsure as to whether to just crank the motor on the starter or fire her up. So I pulled the plugs and used my new 1.4Kw All Balls Starter, soon flattened the battery but was staggered to see the amount of black crap coming out the return pipe.
Battery charger on, but flattened the battery next time and still pumping black crap, must have half a quart or more so far.
So what is it guys? Do you crank on the starter or fie her up, all I can say from the experience so far is if you own a Sportster or any dry sump engined vehicle, get into the habit of scavenging oil from the motor at oil changes.
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21st July 2012
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JESTER MAFIA
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Indian Territory
Posts: 9,128 Sportster/Buell Model: NRHS 1250-R Sportster/Buell Year: 2005
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I fire it up.
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21st July 2012
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: May 2011
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Thanks Rico 05R, battery on charge, tomorrow all of the horses will be applied.
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21st July 2012
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JESTER MAFIA
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Indian Territory
Posts: 9,128 Sportster/Buell Model: NRHS 1250-R Sportster/Buell Year: 2005
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To scavenge the oil until it comes out clean, it usually takes around 10 to 15 seconds with the motor running. I just didn't want to run the starter that long.
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21st July 2012
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 40 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2006 Other Motorcycle Model: Ducati Other Motorcycle Year: 1974
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Did this on mine last oil change. removed the return line and ran the engine until I saw clean oil. Refitted the line and topped up the oil.
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22nd July 2012
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Posts: 1,835 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200c Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
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There is a thread all about scavenging. If you put a tee in the return line, the one that is seen next to the battery under the cover, you can crimp it off going to the oil bag and drain it there using a bypass oil filter.
Cant hurt, but many will say the extra effort is not worth it. Personal choice. I choose to.
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22nd July 2012
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Carnoustie, Angus
Posts: 572 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200R Sportster/Buell Year: 2004
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Thanks guys, I have read many of the scavenging threads, what I was not ready for was the volume of black oil that actually remains in the engine and comes out when you scavenge. Nearly a quart by my estimation, so whilst there are those that feel it is not necessary, scavenging is my preferred method from now on.
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25th July 2012
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Biker
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 17 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2004
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Could someone link to "the scavenging thread?" The search engine isn't helping me much. Thanks.
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26th July 2012
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Know It All
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: pa94-pa394 9 miles n of hanover pa
Posts: 186 Sportster/Buell Model: xl 1200r Sportster/Buell Year: 2004 Other Motorcycle Model: cb 750 honda Other Motorcycle Year: 1974
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 i am lost on this!! run the motor after you change the oil and watch for clean oil coming out?i do my own oil changes but never ran the motor till clean oil came out |
26th July 2012
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 40 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2006 Other Motorcycle Model: Ducati Other Motorcycle Year: 1974
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in the past I knew this as 'purging' the remaining old oil from the engine. Did it on my Norton and BSA and my GMC truck with the 6.2 diesel.
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