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16th January 2011
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Senior Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SW. Pencilmania
Posts: 2,537 Sportster/Buell Model: chopper looking thing Sportster/Buell Year: 1978 Other Motorcycle Model: Triumph POS Other Motorcycle Year: 1972
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So you don't want to split those cases?
 Used motors contain lots of surprises. This sprocket shaft came out of an 1980 motor that ran and had no issues. Split the cases if you have any doubt.$70.00 worth of gaskets and some effort,[ or enjoyment IMHO] may save you, and your motor. Besides the shaft, 2 cam cover bushings had the shoulders ground down to the cover. I don't like these kind of discoveries but I definitely don't like a bomb with the fuse lit between my legs!
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16th January 2011
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Senior Chief Master Mechanic 1st Class
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Neither here nor there
Posts: 1,285 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH (mongrel) Sportster/Buell Year: 1972
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OUCH! Good catch.
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16th January 2011
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Greasemonkey
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 125 Sportster/Buell Model: 1983 xls Sportster/Buell Year: 1983 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 2008 Goldwing Other Motorcycle Model: 2005 superglide Other Motorcycle Year: 2006
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Wow I wish I had your confidence. I have been spending lots of time trying to diagnose a knock. Fixed the biggest one, loose fly weight on the timing advance. But there is still something there it's small but I still hear it. Just afraid to dismantle the whole thing and not find the problem. This may be the inspiration I need to just do it.
Tom
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16th January 2011
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Senior Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SW. Pencilmania
Posts: 2,537 Sportster/Buell Model: chopper looking thing Sportster/Buell Year: 1978 Other Motorcycle Model: Triumph POS Other Motorcycle Year: 1972
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I remember your thread. Between this forum and your service manual you have all the info. you need to fix that knock. I remember thinking: You might have some problems there. The advance weights self destructing leading to full advance at all RPM ranges. As the spark fires way to early, { When the piston and rod are on the compression stroke } the entire rotating assembly is getting hammered. Remember the piston has to ascend to top dead center, then descend on the power stroke. Early spark forces piston and rod down while the flywheel, is thru rotation, forcing it up. Bearings don't survive this for long. Tear it down and look. Take pictures, write notes, and put parts, by assemblies, into marked plastic bags. Take it step by step. It really is fun, I mean it.
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16th January 2011
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Flat Track Champion
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In a wind tunnel
Posts: 641 Sportster/Buell Model: ironhead Sportster/Buell Year: 72
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Sheesh! Glad you had the agates to go in. Its just a biiitch without the tools and experience to crack the cases. When you put her all together and the SOB is leaking or something and you have to go all the way back......well, Im sure thats where a lot of good Ironheads found new owners sitting all pretty in boxes
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16th January 2011
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Booneville,Ms.
Posts: 2,057 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1974
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If you do spilit them you may think of sealing the inside the cases.Some believe the cases are porous and need sealing.Most all we did was use the best sealant out at the time,but some on here someone informed me it was a bad practice and you should shot peen them.Anyway you choose this would be the time to do this.
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16th January 2011
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Senior Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SW. Pencilmania
Posts: 2,537 Sportster/Buell Model: chopper looking thing Sportster/Buell Year: 1978 Other Motorcycle Model: Triumph POS Other Motorcycle Year: 1972
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I clean and prep aluminum like this. Hose or sink and Dawn dishwashing liquid, and a stiff brush. Repeat till clean. This type of hands on action gives you an excellent time to look for cracks and casting boogers, old repairs etc. Any steel present gets WD-40 after being exposed to water. Cases are then taken to a local Tranny shop for glass beading. Once home they get cleaned again and again. On the mating halves I use a large smoothing file and red roloks. Go very lightly, don't dig a trench, aluminum is SOFT. Clean again. If any threads were found during cleaning, such as timing hole or drains or for the bolt ons that look iffy after thread chasing, I retap or Helicoil. Basically this is blueprinting the case. These cases are the weak point of the Sportster, give them a fighting chance.
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16th January 2011
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Senior Chief Know It All
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Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 861 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1979 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLH Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1974 Other Motorcycle Model: XLH Other Motorcycle Year: 1973
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Good time to have that drain hole under the flywheels welded up to if You have one.
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16th January 2011
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Senior Chief Master Mechanic 2nd Class
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SE LA
Posts: 1,563 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: '78 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 883 XLH w/1200kit Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1993 Other Motorcycle Model: 93" Pan/Shovel Other Motorcycle Year: 1968
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When you go back together with the crank, check to make sure that the new sprocket shaft doesn't "bottom out" on the face of the flywheel before the taper is fully seated. When the sprocket shaft is torqued down you should be able to get at least a .010" feeler gauge between the lip and the flywheel. If you can't, remove the sprocket shaft and have the flywheel faced at the sprocket shaft hole.
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16th January 2011
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Master Bike Builder
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,041 Sportster/Buell Model: 71 xlch Sportster/Buell Year: 73 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 74 xlh Sportster/Buell Year #2: 74 Other Motorcycle Model: BT rigid hand shift
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the coating that is painted on the inside of Harley cases is glyptal. HD did this on sportster cases but I do not know what years....my 1960 had red glyptal from the factory....not sure if HD used glyptal but it is the same stuff.
before the IH gods here say I'm full of it....I was told HD coated cases by an retired Harley assembly worker in Milwaukee. Maybe he was full of it.
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