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8th December 2007
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Biker
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 39 Sportster/Buell Model: 883l Sportster/Buell Year: 07
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power commander or fuel pak
Does the 883 and the 1200 both use the same unit?
Thanks, Stafford
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8th December 2007
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Chief Master Mechanic
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Colonial Beach, Va.
Posts: 458 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
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Stafford, I know nothing about the fuel pack, but when you order a PCIII, Jamie will ask you how your engine is set up and whether 883 or 1200 or other. It will be shipped with an appropriate program based on what you tell him. I ordered my PCII for a stone stock 2007 1200C and could not be happier with the results. Linear throttling in any gear or load, no hiccup warmup and only dropped about 2 miles to the gallon.
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8th December 2007
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Biker
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 39 Sportster/Buell Model: 883l Sportster/Buell Year: 07
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Thanks biker farmboy.
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8th December 2007
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Biker
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 16 Sportster/Buell Model: nightster 1200 Sportster/Buell Year: 08 Sportster/Buell Model #2: fxln,55 pan,06 nght trn
Reputation: 10

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HD SERT is the only way to go. Harley bike Harley product, and thats that. Dont forget your dyno.
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8th December 2007
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Master Mechanic
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 296 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200c Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
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sert for me to ! but to each there own.
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9th December 2007
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Chief Master Mechanic
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Colonial Beach, Va.
Posts: 458 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SFV
HD SERT is the only way to go. Harley bike Harley product, and thats that. Dont forget your dyno.
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Why, Fuel Moto already did the dyno work.
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10th December 2007
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Biker
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 48 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N Sportster/Buell Year: 2008
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Also, if you want new grips, Harley grips are the only way to go. That goes for pegs too. You beter get those HD blue jeans and boots too. You cant wear Levi's on a Harley, and thats that.
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Originally Posted by SFV
HD SERT is the only way to go. Harley bike Harley product, and thats that. Dont forget your dyno.
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10th December 2007
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Flat Track Champion
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 607 Sportster/Buell Model: 883XL Sportster/Buell Year: 2005 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLS Roadster Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1980 Other Motorcycle Model: 125cc HD Rapido Other Motorcycle Year: 1971
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Power Commander all the way, much more tuneable, you also get timing adjustment, and rev extension as well. No changes or programming of the ECU necessary. Pre developed maps available. Definately a no brainer. For the SERT lovers in the group, their maps are only developed with Harley components, if other than that they need to be dyno tuned, which brings their total cost to about 3 times that of a power commander, and if you ever change anything back to HD you go for another $300.00.
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10th December 2007
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Getting Hammered!
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Collegeville, PA
Posts: 5,064 Sportster/Buell Model: 883L (sorta) Sportster/Buell Year: 2007 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 1200R Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2007
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To answer the original poster's question, I would think they would need to know whether it's going on a 1200 or 883. How these two products work are by adjusting + or - of the original map. The original maps are different for 883 vs 1200. This is all simply software as the ECM part number is the same on either a 883/1200.
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Originally Posted by AeroSport
Power Commander all the way, much more tuneable, you also get timing adjustment, and rev extension as well. No changes or programming of the ECU necessary. Pre developed maps available. Definately a no brainer. For the SERT lovers in the group, their maps are only developed with Harley components, if other than that they need to be dyno tuned, which brings their total cost to about 3 times that of a power commander, and if you ever change anything back to HD you go for another $300.00.
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Interesting. How is the PCIII more tunable then a SERT? As I understand, the SERT gives full access to the timing, fuel maps, and rev limiter. I've always been under the impression that the SERT is way more tunable (in fact some that have used both say there is too much tunablity in the SERT, making them difficult to setup) I'm not a fan of canned maps, but you are correct they are WAY more available for the PCIII. I do understand that the SERT is a bit of a hassle to setup and the PCIII is probably more user friendly in that area. I've just never heard anyone say that it was more tunable. Curious on your input.
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10th December 2007
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Flat Track Racer
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drcstang
To answer the original poster's question, I would think they would need to know whether it's going on a 1200 or 883. How these two products work are by adjusting + or - of the original map. The original maps are different for 883 vs 1200. This is all simply software as the ECM part number is the same on either a 883/1200.
Interesting. How is the PCIII more tunable then a SERT? As I understand, the SERT gives full access to the timing, fuel maps, and rev limiter. I've always been under the impression that the SERT is way more tunable (in fact some that have used both say there is too much tunablity in the SERT, making them difficult to setup) I'm not a fan of canned maps, but you are correct they are WAY more available for the PCIII. I do understand that the SERT is a bit of a hassle to setup and the PCIII is probably more user friendly in that area. I've just never heard anyone say that it was more tunable. Curious on your input.
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I think there may also be some confusion between the SERF and the SERT. As far as I understand the SERF isn't as tuneable as the SERT (or the PCIII), but that's only what I have gathered from some casual browsing, I could easily have misunderstood.
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