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26th February 2012
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Turbo Mafia R&D
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,843 Sportster/Buell Model: Turbo XL Sidecar Sportster/Buell Year: 2009
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The Road to History (Salt Flats Prep)
Don't know if this is where this should be... This thread was suggested by a few very supportive people who thought it may be interesting for readers and racers alike... Its a think tank or swap of info to help the new guys make things work out and for the vets to maybe reflect and come up with some new tricks to play with...
The start....
So I'm taking a huge leap here. I'm a custom guy. I've built more bikes in my short life than I can count. I've walked with Honors at events to the point I don't keep the awards anymore. I've done the magazine thing. Done the TV gig. Have run my own place for almost 10years (which is just under a third of my life). I still get calls from out of state to do hotrods and bikes alike. I still develope products and odd ideas for other companies.... I decided to take a lil time for myself and do things I've always wanted to do, and have to say I'm loving it and feel more successful with the folks gathering around than any other time in my short run in this industry...
I decided I want to go to the salt. I've proven over and over I can make fast reliable "hotrods"... Have proven I can even make them catch peoples eye. What I have never proven to myself is where my limit is. What can I really do? So the salt was the answer.... to prove to myself where I really stand. Where boys go home and history is made. A few great folks heard I was interested in doing this and they have now forced me to put my money where my mouth is...
I have little time to prep. Some have been working since last year to be ready for this run down. I'm starting my prep in a few weeks once I catch up with some lil projects I'm finishing. I have decided I'm running my street bike. I want to run the bike to show what my Turbo Kit can actually do and support that turbos are a great power adder and can be rock solid... stands to reason that if I can run my stocker with a turbo wide open for miles and miles that it will be safe on your bike that only sees turbo excitement in short bursts right? Well because there is something wrong with me I also decided to complicate my situation by saying I'm going to run with my sidecar on the bike... so I guess you would say I'm running a "force fed push rod sidecar v twin street bike". Dunno if there is even enough space to write that on the form but that's my choice.
So with the lil I have done in the industry this is my mile marker. To actually do what I have said is a dream. To run the salt flat out. I def could have made better choices, but I've never been one to do things normal or easy.... so I'm prob running the wrong bike, running induction most say won't work, and handicapping myself even more by adding a extra 200lbs off center... You can see NASA will prob never ever call me unless they want a flathead powered Nitrous 1 winged space shuttle... but thats how it is. As I write this I am realizing I'm not even a underdog. I'm really not even shoeshine boy  I'm trying to do the best with the worst... then again isn't that how legends are born?
Prep work...
To start I have to get a rule book. Register. Put money aside. Schedule and make travel plans... and this is before the bike is even ready... So where to start...
Which group.... SCTA, Bubs, what?
Open floor to input now... on anything discussed so far. You know the plan. You know the good and bad of the mess. Toss Ideas out there and lets see as a group here on XLF if we can all figure a way to make this happen...
Floor is yours XLF members.
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26th February 2012
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Turbo Mafia Consigliere
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Rockvale TN
Posts: 1,786 Sportster/Buell Model: 883L Sportster/Buell Year: 2007 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 1200R Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2007 Other Motorcycle Model: FLHTPI Police Other Motorcycle Year: 1997
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I would give anything to be there with you Jason...maybe someday soon. I have no doubt if you can figure out the slippage you will do well. 
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26th February 2012
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Senior Chief Harley Engineer
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bremerton,Wa.
Posts: 1,038 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200R Sportster/Buell Year: '07 Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell XB12Ss Sportster/Buell Year #2: '09 Other Motorcycle Model: Hayabusa Other Motorcycle Year: '99
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Any chance after your sidecar run you could detach, and run just the bike too?
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26th February 2012
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Turbo Mafia Consigliere
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Rockvale TN
Posts: 1,786 Sportster/Buell Model: 883L Sportster/Buell Year: 2007 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 1200R Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2007 Other Motorcycle Model: FLHTPI Police Other Motorcycle Year: 1997
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I have been eyeballing these... (1000cc)
M-PBF 08/11 125.922mph (H-D)
M-PBG 09/09 143.360mph (Buell)
The way I read the rules is you must run gas provided on site...Fuel class is unlimited, so you could add a drop of vinegar and qualify for that class...or nothing at all. I am assuming that the "Blown" class includes turbo's...someone correct me if I am wrong.
SC-PF 10/07 128.136mph (Buell)
SC-PG 08/09 126.950mph (H-D)
1350cc -
SC-BF 08/04 142.580mph (Kawasaki)
SC-BG 08/91 160.406mph (Kawasaki)
Last edited by HandOverFist; 26th February 2012 at 20:18..
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26th February 2012
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Jester Mafia
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: So Cal
Posts: 8,531 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2006 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2006 Other Motorcycle Model: 48 Other Motorcycle Year: 2012
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Bubs is more run what ya brung I think
SCTA and BNI have more rules
Is there a class for a Side Car ?
You need to talk to Aaron Wilson and Dan Dunn about the Salt
And Larry out of Bakersfield (ol38y)
FWIW El Mirage is less than 70 miles from me and I think you are near Phoenix ?
Get it built and bring it over here to shake it down
I will make my humble garage available
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26th February 2012
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Turbo Mafia Consigliere
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Rockvale TN
Posts: 1,786 Sportster/Buell Model: 883L Sportster/Buell Year: 2007 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 1200R Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2007 Other Motorcycle Model: FLHTPI Police Other Motorcycle Year: 1997
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If you don't see a class in say 1350cc, does that mean it is open? For instance, SC-PBF or SC/PBG? I would like to know if a turbo would run in the blown class.
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26th February 2012
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Turbo Mafia R&D
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,843 Sportster/Buell Model: Turbo XL Sidecar Sportster/Buell Year: 2009
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Wow... that opened up quick! Great info, good responses, and so far no nay sayers... I think the salt is where I'm gonna find a home. LSR people all seem to be supportive no matter what crazy idea you decide to try, love these people!
... It has been explained that I could remove the car but it would require a lot of work to run two different classes back to back and would really be hard on a first timer... so as it stands, Yes, I could run with then without. I don't think I'm going to though because too late in life I found my affection not only for forcefeeding but for hacks. Turbos and sidecars alike are so different from what most of us know as riders and they are both so odd that I fell in love from the word go once trying both... so my mission at this point is to promote the use of both sidecars and turbos, maybe not together, but the ideas behind both in general. So if I run sidecar, I'm only running that setup during that trip...
Will be looking into the Bubs and the SCTA both to see where to go... as far as the use of garage for shake downs... thank you sir, will be in touch def to try to do something like that. If nothing else but to involve yet one more person in a long struggle to hit a goal. Thanks again for the input and kind offer and support
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26th February 2012
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Senior Chief Know It All
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: I-80 Nevada-Utah
Posts: 876 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200S Sportster/Buell Year: 1999 Other Motorcycle Model: Suzuki DR200 Other Motorcycle Year: 1998
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SCTA Speedweek is the oldest and the most attended. That means it's harder to get hotel rooms and the lines to make speed runs are longer. The crowd is older and more diverse. Hot rods and rat cars are everywhere, bikes are a second class citizen in some ways.
BUB is a newer but growing event which is bikes only. The crowd is younger and it's like a big biker rally. Yes, there is a run-what-ya-brung track but speed is still king on the long tracks.
Just my 2 cents.
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26th February 2012
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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Posts: 1,786 Sportster/Buell Model: 883L Sportster/Buell Year: 2007 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 1200R Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2007 Other Motorcycle Model: FLHTPI Police Other Motorcycle Year: 1997
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If I am reading this right Jason these are what you will be up against...
SC-BF 08/04 142.580mph (Kawasaki)
SC-BG 08/91 160.406mph (Kawasaki)
Axles/pinch bolts must be safety wired - steering dampner required - all glass must be taped
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26th February 2012
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Turbo Mafia R&D
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,843 Sportster/Buell Model: Turbo XL Sidecar Sportster/Buell Year: 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HandOverFist
If I am reading this right Jason these are what you will be up against...
SC-BF 08/04 142.580mph (Kawasaki)
SC-BG 08/91 160.406mph (Kawasaki)
Axles/pinch bolts must be safety wired - steering dampner required - all glass must be taped
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Those may or maynot stand if they separate pushrod motors vs ohc's...i hope. If they lump me in there then it'll be a long long long road to the goal
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