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Ok, Im going to start a firestorm on this question but i'm thinking on buying a whole set of tappets blocks, lifters and rods. I cant find anything on Andrews as far as prices, but the cost differential between sifton and jims is double and then some. Now i know how everyone feels about buying US made parts and I too think in most cases that one should take care of local brands and business, but if thise sifton are so much junk, why does everyone sell them. Would not the market fall off on them and I see nothing to suggest that they are garbage. Yes jims is probably a better part, but even looking at tappet blocks. $70+ each but come on how bad can the others be. Sifton boasts tight tollerances, and before you start slamming me about Asian garbage, tell me how that works with Honda, Hyandi, Mazda etc. They are kicking our collective assess gentleman. I too would like to buy USA and get a cycle electice genny but i got a cheap jira cycle genny and its going on four years old and have never had an issue with it yet.

Im all for sound advice and i am in the market for these lifters and blocks, but other than the default response to an honest question, that taiwan and china etc are all garbage, can someone show me why i shouldnt buy these parts. By default alone, my 65 has all the tollerances of a K-Tell typewriter anyway, and thats using the original HD parts it came with.

Again gentleman, Im not trying to start anything but my experience with this aftermarket "junk" has not been what everyone else has had.

On another note, just in case anyone has a set of original new blocks and lifters from HD, Ill buy them.

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Didn't "search" their website very long, did you?

http://www.andrewsproducts.com/PDF_f...009-retail.pdf
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thanks for the link, but i dont see anything on there about lifters and blocks. I have andrews cams anyway so im not looking for them but thanks anyway.
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Buy what you want.

I damn sure would not put any offshore parts in my ironhead transmission.
And as far as the OEM parts being sloppy, that is how S&S and Andrews got their start, by offering superior parts.

Granted there are some parts that must be sourced offshore, or you have to find old parts and fix them.

Some discretion is needed as old parts are sometimes in better shape than what I have received from Ted.

This is where an Ironhead specialist (Indy) experience pays off, he knows what parts not to buy (sadly after being burned).
Not some dweeb at the parts counter, who is just there to take your money.
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Any thoughts on machining your original blocks?
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As for machining the blocks, one would have to compare the cost of that vs new. My blocks are aluminum and i know some of you have steel, which i assume are original?. Can the aluminum be machined down properly and if so that would mean that i would have to go to oversized lifters and again by the time you add all that up, would it not be almost better to just by new? Bear in mind that my existing lifters are not jumping around inside their blocks but with a stethescope i can hear a little movement in two of them compared to the other two. Also rotating the motor with the rods exposed, those two seem to almost ever so slightly jump a bit. Bushings are brand new and cams as well so i know thats not the cause.

Two years ago i pulled the lifters and blocks and with a set of others i found the four best of eight so even then Im not sure if i was in total specs with them. Just trying to chase that illusive rattle and this is a good place to start. Does anyone know where i could find a "new" set of NOS parts or are they extinct?

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You can always go to your local dealer and ask them to do a search. If ANY dealer in the network still has some in this country, they can find them.

As for Sifton? You have nothing to lose, except time, if you find them to be unsatisfactory.

NOTE: There may be light at the end of the tunnel as far as offshore manufacturing by US based companies. Many are moving production back to the US as wage and energy costs have skyrocketed overseas. China and to a greater extent, India and Malaysia are not so attractive as a cost reducer as they were only 1 year ago. Perhaps in the not to distant future small manufacturers and machining companies here in America will be on a level playing field as cost per part reaches parity. Source: Wall Street Journal
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Just trying to chase that illusive rattle
It's an Ironhead, that is an endless task....
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I assumed you were replacing lifters.
This guy machines these I believe, good price,IMO.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190638654578?redirect=mobile
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Chevelle, thanks, I sent him a message inquiring about lifter size. If stock or over stock.

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