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Has anyone tried mounting a small gauge in place of the switch without running a remote line, or is there just not enough room under there?
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Why??? you'll probably end up disapointed.... our oil systems work off volume not pressure. you won't get a great deal of pressure readings off a gage.... someone will come back with correct numbers, but I believe we only run around 10psi or so when warm.
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First of all I think it would be cool to have a functioning gauge, especially since I have deleted my dummy lights. I was considering wiring up an LED for the oil pressure only, but would MUCH prefer to go mechanical than dummy light. This particular bike doesn't have anything but a headlight with 2-way switch, start button, A-model tail light, and a rear brake switch. Not even any paint on the tins. I want it to be as minimal as possible. From what I understand I should see 20 or so PSI, so a 30 PSI gauge would show quite a bit of action I'd think. Not that I want to watch it as I ride...that's why I was asking about mounting it under the oil filter, just a quick place to check when / if I hear lifter noise. Otherwise, I may as well plug the hole.
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When warm these things don't show much pressure at an idle, unlike a plain bearing car engine. I am not sure seeing the gauge reading next to nothing would be all that comforting.

If you need to run extra plumbing to get the gauge to where you can see it, you increase the potential for problems.

I personally am not a fan of oil pressure gauges on these things. I have seen too many of them create problems that would not have otherwise occurred. I know it seems like they can keep you out of trouble, but my take is that they are more trouble than they are worth. You are unlikely to be looking at the gauge at the moment it shows you are in harms way and it a moment you won't need to have a gauge to let you know you have trouble.

An oil pressure light is more likely to get picked up visually in time for it to matter. That is one reason race cars often have "idiot" lights as well as the more accurate gauge.

I am aware that a lot of folks will disagree with me on this one, which is fine, but that is my take. steve
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There really isnt room down there
It can be done but I see a 100 bucks in lines and fittings plus the gauge !
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Has anyone tried mounting a small gauge in place of the switch without running a remote line,
No line? So the gauge would be mounted instead of the oil pressure switch, under/behind the oil filter? What would be the point of that?

Also, I agree with the others: there's really no point.
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No line? So the gauge would be mounted instead of the oil pressure switch, under/behind the oil filter? What would be the point of that?

Agreed.
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Thanks for your input, I suppose I will let it go. Maybe add the light back one day. My thought was that if I was concerned with oil pressure for whatever reason, I would have a place to check it. Do these oil pumps ever really fail or is it extremely rare?
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You would only have been able to check it at idle, and at idle there's virtually no pressure anyway.

They can fail. Mine did when a can gear tooth broke off and the oil pump ate it.
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It has been stated that the first sign is lifter noise, then the dummy light which comes on too late as it is, because as stated, it has little to no pressure at idle anyway and the light would trigger at idle. My thought was that if I suspected anything, I could look at the gauge, and if necessary have someone hold the throttle open for me a little to generate pressure.
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