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27th January 2005
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Senior Custom Bike Builder
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A few of us have gone the route of putting the SE big twin round ac kit on our bikes.
Any chance of a round backing plate with this type of funnel configuration becoming available?
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27th January 2005
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A Million Facts & Figures
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sandpoint
Posts: 5,883 Sportster/Buell Model: XL883 Sportster/Buell Year: 2007 Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell Cyclone Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1999
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I'll shoot straight with you, not likely. The reason is that it's a pretty saturated market. An awful lot of offerings already out there and some of them aren't half bad designs. Besides, I like the ham cans, they give room for a really big element, and that's one thing these motors like, a LOT of surface area.
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27th January 2005
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Thanks. I wish I had seen these a few weeks ago though. I am going to get the filter that the Arlen Ness big sucker II kits use and put it on my BT AC kit. It's almost an inch thicker and tapers from 7 at the base to 7 3/4 inches at the cover ,than the regular filter that comes in the kit. Not as good as yours but it's what I got right now.
Sucks to be me I guess, or not in this case. 
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27th January 2005
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: the tropical north of Australia
Posts: 6,542 Sportster/Buell Model: 11 second 1200S Sportster/Buell Year: '98 Other Motorcycle Model: about a dozen others.....
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Originally Posted by aswracing
BTW, the Frontier significantly outperformed the Buell Race Kit filter every time I tested them, and the only real difference between them was the venturi ring. It makes a difference!
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I used ta see a lot of guys puttin their old style SE air cleaners on without the venturi ring
I can recall in one of my old books some cross sections of carb/aircleaner venturis..
Makes a large difference if you can get it right  and it's not always the one you'd think either
I've got a block of ally sitting in the corner that I'm gonna play with later....
I still want the ham can but I want it offset for knee clearance with the wide filter and I'm gonna be runnin a Mikuni later, so I need to make somethin up to flow smoothly into the Mik.
I think the adapter ring is a bit of a stop gap measure.
Unfortunately by the time I get one of Aarons over here it's a bit too dear.
And 'sides I'm the mad old bastard that likes doin it all himself.. 
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28th January 2005
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I got a block of poly that I was thinking of modifying into my own ventui ring. I already have a second 04 style manifold that I had welded up at work and hand ported. It's almost done. Once I finish it post pics.
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28th January 2005
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Ok, maybe this is a very dumb question but here it goes.
I know what a venturi ring is but what the heck does it do and why is it so important?
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28th January 2005
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Biker
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I think that a good question, cause I'd like to know too
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28th January 2005
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OK .... on the older style SE air cleaners they had a sheet aluminium backing plate.
This backing plate gave a sharp edge where the air went into the carby mouth...
A square edge is difficult for air to go around without creating a pocket of turbulence.
A black plastic ring was fitted on the outside of the carby mouth to smooth the incoming air...
This is called a Venturi ring ... as it's sorta part of a venturi
If you can smooth and direct the air flow coming into the carb and reduce turbulence you get more air in a more contolled form....
more controlled air without turbulence is what we are trying to achieve thru the whole system..
The more controlled and the less turbulence ... the more air we can get thru there........ more air = more oxygen ... more oxygen means we can burn more fuel... more fuel = more power
Bert you're in the army ....
how many soldiers can you move from one area to another on foot compared to civilians?.....
we wana turn the air into well trained soldiers that go where they're told ....
and not sitting around in little pockets talkin or havin a smoke...
A venturi ring is like basic trainin ... it straightens 'em up as they go thru
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28th January 2005
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Originally Posted by bplinson
Ok, maybe this is a very dumb question but here it goes.
I know what a venturi ring is but what the heck does it do and why is it so important?
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The automotive equivalent of a venturi ring is the old K&N stub stack that was popular during the heyday of carbureted performance V8 engines. Some of you guys probably remember these... Their purpose was the same; take out some turbulence & straighten out the airflow.
I guess I'm starting to show my age here.... 
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28th January 2005
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Sounds good to me.
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