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25th January 2005
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Flat Track Racer
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Verona (Italy)
Posts: 213 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2004 Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki ZRX1200 Other Motorcycle Year: 2002
Reputation: 10

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Stupid question about controls
I think it's a stupid question...
...But I really am in difficult to become abituated to this strange handlebar electrical controls.
They are huge, difficult to use with hands into winter gloves. The flashing high beam is a must here where people drive cars like mad cows and roads are not so large like in US or Australia.
That's the stupid question:
Is there an aftermarket kit for a more standard and complete set of controls?
Is there at almost the only flashing high beam kit? It's easy to mount on this new bikes because the high beam pulse can be taken from lo-high beam switch and sent directly to the existing wires. The only problem is to do something clean and with a stock look.
Has anyone never tried to mount jap controls on an Harley?
I've no problem cutting wires and modify by myself.
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Mr. Mechano
'04 XL1200C red/silver
Kawasaki ZRX1200
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25th January 2005
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Senior Chief Know It All 2nd Class
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London/Austria
Posts: 1,450 Sportster/Buell Model: custom Sportster/Buell Year: 2000
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I would have thought that the bigger buttons would have been easier to find with thick winter gloves....at least thats what I find.
Some of the aftermarket controls offer smaller buttons but they cost a lot of money.. Or you can you the minimal route and switch to stainless flush buttons but theres quite a bit of work and cost involved.
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25th January 2005
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Flat Track Racer
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Verona (Italy)
Posts: 213 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2004 Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki ZRX1200 Other Motorcycle Year: 2002
Reputation: 10

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Originally Posted by gordy
I would have thought that the bigger buttons would have been easier to find with thick winter gloves....at least thats what I find.
Some of the aftermarket controls offer smaller buttons but they cost a lot of money.. Or you can you the minimal route and switch to stainless flush buttons but theres quite a bit of work and cost involved.
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With heavy gloves you have less moving abilities. Small and well disposed into a small area are better than bigger at long distance between them and from the finger.
I want to try to build at almost my own flash beam (passing?) button to the left side.
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Mr. Mechano
'04 XL1200C red/silver
Kawasaki ZRX1200
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25th January 2005
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Chief Know It All
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Great State of Texas
Posts: 402 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200 Custom Sportster/Buell Year: 2004
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I have some difficulty myself when I've got my winter gloves on - I agree that some of the controls can be hard to reach. I also like the controls better than any rice-burner I've seen. I guess I'll just have to live with it, myself. Let us know if you find anything.
There are aftermarket kits to make the headlight flash. I remember them being discussed on one of the bulletin boards, I just don't remember which one. More unfortunately, I don't remember their proper name, or who makes them. The good news is, though, that they exist. You'll be able to find one somewhere.
If you want more light up front, how about a passing lamp kit? Might not be a European styling thing on a Sporty, though.
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25th January 2005
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Flat Track Racer
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Verona (Italy)
Posts: 213 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2004 Other Motorcycle Model: Kawasaki ZRX1200 Other Motorcycle Year: 2002
Reputation: 10

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Originally Posted by bubbahog
I have some difficulty myself when I've got my winter gloves on - I agree that some of the controls can be hard to reach. I also like the controls better than any rice-burner I've seen. I guess I'll just have to live with it, myself. Let us know if you find anything.
There are aftermarket kits to make the headlight flash. I remember them being discussed on one of the bulletin boards, I just don't remember which one. More unfortunately, I don't remember their proper name, or who makes them. The good news is, though, that they exist. You'll be able to find one somewhere.
If you want more light up front, how about a passing lamp kit? Might not be a European styling thing on a Sporty, though.
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The turn lights buttons have the problem they are not switch but pulse button, and don't have a feedback click.
The left "rice burner's" controls are lever with switch and feedback click. So you can feel when they'll start working without look at the dock panel. And it's easy that you can switch off simply by a soft straight pressure that has a feedback click too.
It happened often to me, to press the turn lights button but the turn lights don't start blinking, simply because I didn't press deeply, or sometimes it occurs that I double press fastly so I turn on/off at the same time (because of a bump or simply the bad feedback of heavy winter gloves).
With a clicking lever switch you can't be wrong.
I don't want more lights on my front expecially if they will make ugly my bike. I prefer to make more powerfull the existing ones. I've seen some Xenon lights (not talking about the Xenon colored bulb lamps) but the real "Xenon" gas system with all the electronic components necessay to multiply the electrical tension to excite the gas and make its reaction) a bit expensive but really impressive.
http://www.brightheadlights-hid.com/...bike-x5006.htm
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Mr. Mechano
'04 XL1200C red/silver
Kawasaki ZRX1200
Last edited by Mechano; 25th January 2005 at 13:24..
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25th January 2005
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Senior Chief Know It All
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: florida
Posts: 841 Sportster/Buell Model: zx-10R Sportster/Buell Year: 2008
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I prefer both signals on one side personally, do not care for one button on each side of the bike. Wonder if there is an easy fix for that.
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25th January 2005
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Harley Engineer
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Cary NC
Posts: 346 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster Custom Sportster/Buell Year: 2000
Reputation: 66

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Weird, personally I prefer the Harley controls, My wife's Buell has Jap stle controls and I am constantly leaving the turn signals on! maybe look to Buell parts for working with the existing Harley stuff.
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25th January 2005
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Chief Harley Engineer
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 547
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Why try to modify the sportster to function as a jap bike??
Just buy a jap bike and be done with it.
Don
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25th January 2005
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Senior Chief Master Mechanic 1st Class
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,216 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh883 Sportster/Buell Year: 2001
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Umm, Cobra, he's already got a Jap bike.
Mechano, I don't think the turn signal module cares where the signal is coming from. You could go to the dead-bike junkyard and maybe find some controls from a late model Japanese cruiser, like a Vulcan--I think those use 1" bars. Also the new Triumph Bonnevilles use 1" bars.
As long as you connect the right wires together, I see no reason that the switches couldn't be changed. It would be a lot easier to adapt some Buell controls, but there's probably not a lot of Buells in Italian junkyards.
Just to clear up any confusion, the "flasher" that Mechano is talking about is for "flashing to pass" and is a spring loaded switch on the backside of the left switch housing that only activates the high beam when pressed.
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25th January 2005
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Know It All
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 177 Other Motorcycle Model: VRSCR Other Motorcycle Year: 2006
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The stock buell blast has it, I know. I can't imagine that it would be that hard to find a pair of 7/8" bars (even stock Blast bars are pretty close to Sportster bars), along with new risers & pick up some OEM hand controls. It just seems like a lot of work for something that you could flip back and forth on. Mr. Mechano - how much passing are you doing over there? :-)
Speedy
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