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11th April 2006
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Senior Chief Know It All 2nd Class
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,488 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200 XLC Sportster/Buell Year: 2000 Sportster/Buell Model #2: Dyna Low Rider Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2004
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Help...Pinging
Yes, I read jetting 101
I just put a Mikuni HSR 42 on. I was running WAY too rich with my CV. I changed the plugs and ran about 120 miles Sunday and here's what I found. Plugs are clean as a whistle...no marks or colorization at all. The metal still looks like metal, porcellin, too.
The bike really runs great with no backfiring or carbfarting. The only thing is a very slight ping when I do a WOT roll-on from about 3,000 rpm. It doesn't lug at all. It starts going strong for about 500 rpm and then just a few scattered pings the rest of the way up. It really hauls ass, though.
I haven't touched the out of the box settings except the idle. Does this sound like I should raise the needle or...?
If so, how the hell do you do that? I have bigger main jets that came with it and they're easier to change.
Thoughts?
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11th April 2006
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Posts: 2,024 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH883/1200 Sportster/Buell Year: 96 Other Motorcycle Model: CX500 Other Motorcycle Year: 84
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what kind of gas are ya using? an whats your max timing setting?
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11th April 2006
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Senior Chief Know It All 2nd Class
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Stock ignition set "normal" and 94 octane Sunoco Ultimate
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11th April 2006
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Senior Chief Master Mechanic
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Sounds like the timing is a tad to advanced.
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11th April 2006
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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If the timing doesn't help and the pinging is only at wide open throttle you might try increasing the main jet one size.
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11th April 2006
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I'd agree, might be just a tad lean at WOT.
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11th April 2006
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Posts: 550 Sportster/Buell Model: 05 1200R Sportster/Buell Year: 2005 Other Motorcycle Model: V star classic wife's Other Motorcycle Year: 2005
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I just did same mod ...my end settings are 1 size bigger on main jet.. needle, moved clip to raise 1 needle 1 notch ...runs great plugs look perfect but its only been in the 50's here I'm thinking I might have to lean it out once summer gets here . You might be spot on with your settings once it warms up ..hope this helps
p.s. they made a really good " mikuni sticky " I must have read it 20 times
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11th April 2006
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Senior Chief Know It All 2nd Class
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Read that sticky alot, too. Basically, I'm waiting for my NRHS top end to get here. I'm worried that if I'm a bit lean now, with 94 octane gas and cold weather, when I go to 10.5:1, cams, and stage 2 heads, I'll be way too lean. Can't dyno it for 500 miles so I don't want to blow the whole thing up while I wait.
I figure I'll just richen up the main jet now (easy fix) and see. Looks like raising the needle is more work so I'll skip that until after my build.
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11th April 2006
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I don't know SQUAT about Mikunis, and even LESS about the new ignitions, but I'd check your ignition settings with someone who knows first...that's what this sounds like...and ignition advance adjustment....
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11th April 2006
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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It's possible my timing isn't spot on, but I still don't want to be lean no matter what so I think I'll do the jet. I'll check the static timing, too, but don't have a way to do the dynamic timing.
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